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NL mods love pushing JW post to the fp because it is a modified Islam made to look like Christianity. So its safe to call them Christian Cultists

We already know NL is an islamic-biased forum.

Mineisgrace:
I think I have seen this somewhere before. I am not sure

Oh trust me.

Back in my University days I lived off campus and every Sunday they'd always find their way to my house.

I always welcomed them in and we'd argue and discuss for hours.

Then they'd give me their publications, Watchtower and one other one like that, which I'll read just to understand their position.

IvarTheBoneless:
Their girls like missionary style A LOT....

Dated one for 3 years in school, when i suggested doggy, she would be quoting the Bible for me.

But I DIDN'T SPARE THE ROD , and spoil the GF

you are useless

WinLABSstores:


I love their tenacious nature and affable way of getting people's attention...
They can also be very smart and they know what they preach...


Unlike some "righteousness" mumu that will be spamming every thread with dumb nonsense!

As if the world revolves around him and his beliefs only....




NB:
Check my profile/signature for amazing prices on our infrared thermometers...

Free Righteousness jare. We enjoy him.

He means no harm.

sonofElElyon:
an emphatic yes!!!

Remember Jesus called Him a "Comforter" and referred to the Holy Spirit as "He"...

the Bible is replete with references to the Holy Spirit as "He" and "Him"..

Remember also Jesus said "In THE NAME of the Father, and of the son and of the Holy Spirit..

In Isaiah I think, it is recorded that "the Lord God and His Spirit have sent me"

the Bible speaks of lying to Him, grieving Him, etc. These things you can only do to a person...

The Bible even records the Holy Spirit as saying "separate unto Me, Paul and Barnabas"..

I can go on and on and on..

Quite impressive. The holy Spirit is even a man not a woman.

EzzyCarter:
I heard you guys don't believe in the concept of Hell/everlasting condemnation for unrepentant sinners because "God is too compassionate and he wouldn't allow his creation to suffer " so what do you have to say about the Book of Revelation where it was clearly stated that "Whosoever's name was not written in the book of life was cast into the lake of burning sulfur..." is this a joke to you or y'all have a different interpretation for this?

That same Revelation reveals to you that the burning sulfur is figurative. It means the second death.

To understand, you must know what the first death is, the cause of the first death before we can talk about the second death.

you are the one who lacks spiritual and biblical understanding..

I already responded to a similar post like yours so read up..

p.s. the article didn't say anything about the Holy Spirit so it is obvious you didn't read it and are just blindly e-fighting...

while you are it, kindly explain why Jehovah witnesses erroneously believe that Jesus is an angel (Michael)!!!

Gabbriell:
Is there any passage in the Bible that describe the holy spirit as a person?. The Holy spirit as used in the bible is the means in which God dose his wonderful works. If you read the bible u will realise that it is been likened to the 'power of God'

Go and read your Bible. Don't just rely on what people tell u . Look at every point in the above article, there is scriptural backing provided.

sonofElElyon:
an emphatic yes!!!

Remember Jesus called Him a "Comforter" and referred to the Holy Spirit as "He"...

the Bible is replete with references to the Holy Spirit as "He" and "Him"..

Remember also Jesus said "In THE NAME of the Father, and of the son and of the Holy Spirit..

In Isaiah I think, it is recorded that "the Lord God and His Spirit have sent me"

the Bible speaks of lying to Him, grieving Him, etc. These things you can only do to a person...

The Bible even records the Holy Spirit as saying "separate unto Me, Paul and Barnabas"..

I can go on and on and on..

Romans 8:16 KJV: “The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:….”
Romans 8 :26 KJV: “Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.”
Greek pneuma = wind, breath, spirit.
Greek pneuma is neuter (not male or female).

Yahweh had one on one dialogue with Moses.
Jesus had one on one dialogue with Saul (Paul).
Yahweh is a living being.
Jesus is a living being.
In Greek,it, itself is a neuter pronoun , NOT referencing living beings.
I challenge you to proof where holy spirit had one on one dialogue with anyone in your Bible?

In your Bible , Wisdom has children, sin seduced Paul, Death gives a sting.
Is death, Wisdom and sin, living beings?

You listen to your TV , radio even your phone, are they living beings speaking to you?

lunacol:
They give freewill donation.They don't accept offerings but they are psychological experts that works on your psyche and mindset that will always make you "donate freely".The donation box is always there for doing the works of the kingdom.

As far as they don't make it mandatory that's fare enough. Can you compare that with other churches that have specific time for offering, some even do it twice. What is not good is bad,i think we shall learn how to commend who deserve it.

lunacol:
They give freewill donation.They don't accept offerings but they are psychological experts that works on your psyche and mindset that will always make you "donate freely".The donation box is always there for doing the works of the kingdom.

Bro in all my years of attending a JW meeting, I've never heard the speaker convince the congratulations to drop donations... Most times you might not even notice the donation box.

Some people will still come here looking for faults. All these 15 facts about Jehovah's Witnesses, can you state 15 facts about your religion with scriptural backings?

You forgot to add they're great pretenders with holier-than-thou attitude. Not to mention say them spoil pass anything. Let me not mention juju freaks.
If you like, abuse me from now till thy kingdom come. These I know first hand.

Nawa oh..... Wetin Musa no go see for gate.....

tunjijones:
Bro.. Let me tell you why u are a Christian today. You are are Christian most likely bcoz ur parents are Christian. And you go to church and try to do what's in the Bible bcoz u are scared of going to hell. You are not doing all that cos you love God.

I am not asking you to respond. Just ponder on what I just said.

And u are not scared of going to hell.
Mumu atheist

There's nothing that describes JW other than hypocrisy. You claim to be followers of Jesus Christ but most of the hard-line beliefs are not found in the teachings of Jesus Christ. You instruct your members not to accept blood transfusions(my cousin died cause of this) even in emergencies where the person is sure to die without blood, but you can accept transplants, is there any organ in the human body that doesn't have blood inside? Is that based on the teachings of Jesus Christ? All your beliefs are alike in the sense that they have no basis in the gospel of Jesus Christ. Examine them yourself. A Jehovah's witness has no problem dancing to the music of naira Marley where he's only singing vulgar but once you play a worship song by Nathaniel bassey he/she is infuriated but you are a follower of Christ. You guys are just extremists.

Can you please list this too
1. If you invite them to your place of worship they won't come unless it's for marriage as the believe you church isn't pure
2. That they believe they and only they serve God and other religions serve devil
3. Only they are honest and trustworthy
4. They have prophecy that the world will end and it never came to pass
5. That their governing body changed doctrine as they seem fit but questioning them means questioning God
6. They don't read other churchs publications but they want you to read theirs
7. They fear church elders than Jesus himself

nymphomaniac:
ironic that you are a Christain and a cheat. Why will you write projects for people?

And to think he perpetrates such academic fraud for as low as N2,500.

No wonder Jesus said "these honor me with their lips but their hearts are far from me".

All diz churchie people ehhn, I dey avoid them like no tomorrow.

They are the most confused ever.
Imagine my ex JW girlfriend currently married to her brethren nagging me over not posting her picture on my status on her birthday.
Meanwhile they don't believe in celebrating birthdays.....

Please brother, is it true that 144,000 people will go to heaven? Throw more light on this with biblical back up. Thanks.

ifko:
And u are not scared of going to hell.
Mumu atheist

First of all I am not an atheist. And secondly I did not in anyway insult you in my post.

Pls be guided accordingly.

your argument is very weak!

Jesus said I will send you another comforter.. so you can send your TV, RADIO ETC abi The Holy Spirit also sends people on assignments.. he has emotions which only person's have eg grieves, can be lied to.. gets angry etc..

The Holy Spirit is given a place with the Father and Son... surely "In the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" is enough proof that He is a person.. The others are persons yet you seek to single out the Holy Spirit and "DISperson" him.. the context and by association, it is clear that He is a person...
Just like when it was written The Lord God and His Spirit have sent me.. you agree that The Father is a person but you choose to DISperson the Holy Spirit.. Not sound doctrine, logic or reason.

The Bible has more than enough proof to convince any open minded person except of course people who are fanatically loyal to their sect..

Janosky:
In your Bible , Wisdom has children, sin seduced Paul, Death gives a sting.
Is death, Wisdom and sin, living beings?

You listen to your TV , radio even your phone, are they living beings speaking to you?

lunacol:
And the 144,000 are those those that experienced the casting down of Lucifer making Lucifer to cause the world war 1.I want to know if the 144000 people that will serve with Jesus Christ in heaven are now complete so that the trumpet will sound.

We are complete o.

The rest of you will manage earth here.

ukeleh:
You believe in family and unity, why then do you forbid [code][/code]your members from attending family / village meetings. Please support your response with Bible verses.

We don't forbid family/village meetings, JWs support communal development/ or settle family issues.
However, 1 Corinthians 15:33 warns us to desist from associations that undermine our faith and beliefs.

We can never participate in festivals or ceremonies devoted to deities and idols.
Deuteronomy 18:10-12 Jehovah hates idolatry and spiritism

tunjijones:
I am not a JW member. But I always wonder why other Christians hate JW this bad.

Most of the Bible teaching I knw today was from my book of Bible story authored by JW.

I also read awake a lot cos is very educative. And they give you this awake and other literature free of charge and only ask you to donate voluntarily.

Can you imagine my friend went to buy this redeem church prayer book where the price is boldly written to be 1000 naira and they were selling it for 1200 naira. Inside the church Oooo. Not on the street or in a bookshop. It was right inside the church.

Take your 1k to redemption camp nah or they force u to buy d book

chatinent:
We as Jehovah’s Witnesses adhere to the form of Christianity that Jesus taught and that his apostles practiced. This article summarizes our basic beliefs.
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1. God. We worship the one true and Almighty God, the Creator 'who has a name', and whose name is Jehovah. (Psalm 83:18; Revelation 4:​ 11) He is the God of Abraham, Moses, and Jesus.​—Exodus 3:6; 32:11; John 20:17.
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2. Bible. We recognize the Bible as God’s inspired message to humans. (John 17:17; 2 Timothy 3:​16) We base our beliefs on all 66 of its books, which include both the “Old Testament” and the “New Testament.” Professor Jason D. BeDuhn aptly described it when he wrote that Jehovah’s Witnesses built “their system of belief and practice from the raw material of the Bible without predetermining what was to be found there.” * While we accept the entire Bible, we are not fundamentalists. We recognize that parts of the Bible are written in figurative or symbolic language and are not to be understood literally.​ —Revelation 1:1.
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3. Jesus. We follow the teachings and example of Jesus Christ and honor him as our Savior and as the Son of God. (Matthew 20:28; Acts 5:​31) Thus, we are Christians. (Acts 11:26) However, we have learned from the Bible that Jesus is not Almighty God and that there is no Scriptural basis for the Trinity doctrine.​—John 14:28.
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4. The Kingdom of God. This is a real government in heaven, not a condition in the hearts of Christians. It will replace human governments and accomplish God’s purpose for the earth. (Daniel 2:​44; Matthew 6:​9, 10) It will take these actions soon, for Bible prophecy indicates that we are living in “ the last days.”​—2 Timothy 3:​1-5; Matthew 24:​3-​14. Jesus is the King of God’s Kingdom in heaven. [color=maroon]He began ruling in 1914.[/color]​—Revelation 11:15.
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5. Salvation. Deliverance from sin and death is possible through the ransom sacrifice of Jesus. (Matthew 20:28; Acts 4:​12) To benefit from that sacrifice, people must not only exercise faith in Jesus but also change their course of life and get baptized. (Matthew 28:19, 20; John 3:​16; Acts 3:​19, 20) A person’s works prove that his faith is alive. (James 2:​24, 26) However, salvation cannot be earned​—it comes through “the undeserved kindness of God.”​—Galatians 2:​16, 21.
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6. Heaven. Jehovah God, Jesus Christ, and the faithful angels reside in the spirit realm. * (Psalm 103:19-​21; Acts 7:​55) A relatively small number of people​—144,000​—will be resurrected to life in heaven to rule with Jesus in the Kingdom.​—Daniel 7:​27; 2 Timothy 2:​12; Revelation 5:​9, 10; 14:​1, 3.
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7. Earth. God created the earth to be mankind’s eternal home. (Psalm 104:5; 115:16; Ecclesiastes 1:4) God will bless obedient people with perfect health and everlasting life in an earthly paradise. Of course, it was his original purpose while creating man.​—Psalm 37:11, 34.
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8. Evil and suffering. These began when one of God’s angels rebelled. (John 8:​44) This angel, who after his rebellion was called “Satan” and “Devil,” persuaded the first human couple to join him, and the consequences have been disastrous for their descendants. ( Genesis 3:​1-6; Romans 5:​12) In order to settle the moral issues raised by Satan, God has 'allowed' evil and suffering, but He will not permit them to continue forever.
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9. Death. People who die pass out of existence. (Psalm 146:4; Ecclesiastes 9:​5, 10) They do not suffer in a fiery hell of torment. God will bring billions back from death by means of a resurrection. (Acts 24:15) However, those who refuse to learn God’s ways after being raised to life will be destroyed forever with no hope of a resurrection.​— Revelation 20:14, 15.
.
10. Family. We adhere to God’s original standard of marriage as the union of one man and one woman, with sexual immorality being the only valid basis for divorce. (Matthew 19:​4-9) We are convinced that the wisdom found in the Bible helps families to succeed.​—Ephesians 5:22–​6:1.
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11. Our worship. We do not venerate the cross or any other images. (Deuteronomy 4:​15-​19; 1 John 5:​21) Key aspects of our worship include the following: Praying to God.​—Philippians 4:6. Reading and studying the Bible.​—Psalm 1:​1-3. Meditating on what we learn from the Bible.​—Psalm 77:12. Meeting together to pray, study the Bible, sing, express our faith, and encourage fellow Witnesses and others.​— Colossians 3:​16; Hebrews 10:23-​25. Preaching the “good news of the Kingdom.”​—Matthew 24:14. Helping those in need.​—James 2:​14-​17. Constructing and maintaining Kingdom Halls and other facilities used to further our worldwide Bible educational work.​— Psalm 127:1. Sharing in disaster relief.​—Acts 11:27-​30.
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12. Our organization. We are organized into congregations, each of which is overseen by a body of elders. However, the elders do not form a clergy class, and they are unsalaried. (Matthew 10:8; 23: We do not practice tithing, and no collections are ever taken at our meetings. (2 Corinthians 9:7) All our activities are supported by anonymous donations. The Governing Body, a small group of mature Christians who serve at our world headquarters, provides direction for Jehovah’s Witnesses worldwide.​— Matthew 24:45.
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you dint talk about hell

maxzzo1:
OP explain the 1914 cos that Bible passage(Rev 11:15) did not state any year or time abi una bible different

1914 was our amalgamation to Northern people na.

Bahamas95:
Jehovah's witnesses mind deep pass ocean. They want to know everything about you but keep their secrets to themselves as if na dem wise pass. Dem fit play Naira Marley music and nor complain about the lyrics but immediately you play Frank Edwards, Tope Alabi and other gospel music dem must see something to criticize about the song.


I once had them as friends but I have disassociated myself from them because I dislike pretenders.

they hate gospel music I don't know why

ifko:
Take your 1k to redemption camp nah or they force u to buy d book

You are just a big fool.

U just have big head and u can't use it to think properly.

Seetto:
What is the sin of this Jehovah witness that many christains seem to hate them...

dem sabi knock for pipo door

Sleekfingers:
catholic i spit. I will rather stick my ifa....

But why is everyone spitting today now?

My friend swallow that spit jare.

Anyway, on a more serious note, it's not for you to condemn anyone's belief.

Everyone is on a journey and we need to respect each other's beliefs and faith.

I have come to realize that even most of those that practice Ifa spirituality don't understand how deep it is.

chatinent:
We as Jehovah’s Witnesses adhere to the form of Christianity that Jesus taught and that his apostles practiced. This article summarizes our basic beliefs.
.
1. God. We worship the one true and Almighty God, the Creator 'who has a name', and whose name is Jehovah. (Psalm 83:18; Revelation 4:​ 11) He is the God of Abraham, Moses, and Jesus.​—Exodus 3:6; 32:11; John 20:17.
.
2. Bible. We recognize the Bible as God’s inspired message to humans. (John 17:17; 2 Timothy 3:​16) We base our beliefs on all 66 of its books, which include both the “Old Testament” and the “New Testament.” Professor Jason D. BeDuhn aptly described it when he wrote that Jehovah’s Witnesses built “their system of belief and practice from the raw material of the Bible without predetermining what was to be found there.” * While we accept the entire Bible, we are not fundamentalists. We recognize that parts of the Bible are written in figurative or symbolic language and are not to be understood literally.​ —Revelation 1:1.
.
3. Jesus. We follow the teachings and example of Jesus Christ and honor him as our Savior and as the Son of God. (Matthew 20:28; Acts 5:​31) Thus, we are Christians. (Acts 11:26) However, we have learned from the Bible that Jesus is not Almighty God and that there is no Scriptural basis for the Trinity doctrine.​—John 14:28.
.
4. The Kingdom of God. This is a real government in heaven, not a condition in the hearts of Christians. It will replace human governments and accomplish God’s purpose for the earth. (Daniel 2:​44; Matthew 6:​9, 10) It will take these actions soon, for Bible prophecy indicates that we are living in “ the last days.”​—2 Timothy 3:​1-5; Matthew 24:​3-​14. Jesus is the King of God’s Kingdom in heaven. [color=maroon]He began ruling in 1914.[/color]​—Revelation 11:15.
.
5. Salvation. Deliverance from sin and death is possible through the ransom sacrifice of Jesus. (Matthew 20:28; Acts 4:​12) To benefit from that sacrifice, people must not only exercise faith in Jesus but also change their course of life and get baptized. (Matthew 28:19, 20; John 3:​16; Acts 3:​19, 20) A person’s works prove that his faith is alive. (James 2:​24, 26) However, salvation cannot be earned​—it comes through “the undeserved kindness of God.”​—Galatians 2:​16, 21.
.
6. Heaven. Jehovah God, Jesus Christ, and the faithful angels reside in the spirit realm. * (Psalm 103:19-​21; Acts 7:​55) A relatively small number of people​—144,000​—will be resurrected to life in heaven to rule with Jesus in the Kingdom.​—Daniel 7:​27; 2 Timothy 2:​12; Revelation 5:​9, 10; 14:​1, 3.
.
7. Earth. God created the earth to be mankind’s eternal home. (Psalm 104:5; 115:16; Ecclesiastes 1:4) God will bless obedient people with perfect health and everlasting life in an earthly paradise. Of course, it was his original purpose while creating man.​—Psalm 37:11, 34.
.
8. Evil and suffering. These began when one of God’s angels rebelled. (John 8:​44) This angel, who after his rebellion was called “Satan” and “Devil,” persuaded the first human couple to join him, and the consequences have been disastrous for their descendants. ( Genesis 3:​1-6; Romans 5:​12) In order to settle the moral issues raised by Satan, God has 'allowed' evil and suffering, but He will not permit them to continue forever.
.
9. Death. People who die pass out of existence. (Psalm 146:4; Ecclesiastes 9:​5, 10) They do not suffer in a fiery hell of torment. God will bring billions back from death by means of a resurrection. (Acts 24:15) However, those who refuse to learn God’s ways after being raised to life will be destroyed forever with no hope of a resurrection.​— Revelation 20:14, 15.
.
10. Family. We adhere to God’s original standard of marriage as the union of one man and one woman, with sexual immorality being the only valid basis for divorce. (Matthew 19:​4-9) We are convinced that the wisdom found in the Bible helps families to succeed.​—Ephesians 5:22–​6:1.
.
11. Our worship. We do not venerate the cross or any other images. (Deuteronomy 4:​15-​19; 1 John 5:​21) Key aspects of our worship include the following: Praying to God.​—Philippians 4:6. Reading and studying the Bible.​—Psalm 1:​1-3. Meditating on what we learn from the Bible.​—Psalm 77:12. Meeting together to pray, study the Bible, sing, express our faith, and encourage fellow Witnesses and others.​— Colossians 3:​16; Hebrews 10:23-​25. Preaching the “good news of the Kingdom.”​—Matthew 24:14. Helping those in need.​—James 2:​14-​17. Constructing and maintaining Kingdom Halls and other facilities used to further our worldwide Bible educational work.​— Psalm 127:1. Sharing in disaster relief.​—Acts 11:27-​30.
.
12. Our organization. We are organized into congregations, each of which is overseen by a body of elders. However, the elders do not form a clergy class, and they are unsalaried. (Matthew 10:8; 23: We do not practice tithing, and no collections are ever taken at our meetings. (2 Corinthians 9:7) All our activities are supported by anonymous donations. The Governing Body, a small group of mature Christians who serve at our world headquarters, provides direction for Jehovah’s Witnesses worldwide.​— Matthew 24:45.
.

I couldn't help but notice there was no mention of the Holyspirit who is the gift from God to all believers. Acts 2:38-39
The teacher of all Christian's and through whom there is power to heal and bear the gifts and fruit of the Spirit. John 14:26
I have often heard that JW do not recognise the Holyspirit that you only see him as a force. How true is that?