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Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by zeusdgrt(m): 7:18pm On Aug 15, 2020
viktor88:

That's their option not reality.

David Luis can ginger arsenal during halftime and will not go on to cause unnecessary penalty with a red card.
A video,a match,a result,an international audience view against u,are the one hiding from the reality grin grin other Messi fans don see truth quiet but u still wan disgrace urself further grin grin
Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by mariahAngel(f): 7:19pm On Aug 15, 2020
Skills does not equal leadership qualities.
Messi is known for great skills, but not the quality of a leader.
Ronaldo has both. I see Ronaldo becoming a great coach in the near future.

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Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by Nobody: 7:20pm On Aug 15, 2020
Shout-out to Bartomeu..

That is the real bad Leader!!!
Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by BlackManta(m): 7:22pm On Aug 15, 2020
Tareq1105:


I guess it was because he saw what he's been telling Barça management come to pass.

He once told them to retain Cortiho and other advices.

It's not the first time. Google his remarks when they lost Laliga then you will understand that Messi forsaw yesterday.

Pls pray for my English Team, Man City even though my Spanish Team, Barça is out. I don't want to lose both with in 24 hrs.

I dey fear for Man City grin

How will they overcome Bayern if they get to the semi finals

If will take a tactical masterclass and a fighting spirit to overcome that monster of a team cheesy
Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by stayclearofme: 7:23pm On Aug 15, 2020
zeusdgrt:

Oga that guy typed the truth,na u nor get sense comprehend grin grin
U no well o....u dey tell your Oga say he no get Sense.... grin grin
Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by gbemishile: 7:23pm On Aug 15, 2020
Nonsense
Arrant nonsense.
Messi isnt the only playee in the team.
He isn't the one who shipped in 8 goals between the sticks
He isn't the defenders who watched idlu as 8 goals were scored.
No matter how well u attack,if ur back four is porous,u can never win the match.
Come-on,look at the quality between the two sides.please let's not put sentiments to it

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Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by Dayodragon: 7:28pm On Aug 15, 2020
Fastestmanalive:
Messi simply isn't captain material.

A true captain would have inspired his team to go on and win the match. I saw none of that in Messi.

That's not to say he isn't a good player though.




Maradona made it clear at the world cup. Messi is not a team leader..

I'm glad it's obvious today.. things has not been fine since Iniesta and Xavi left..
Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by hakeem4(m): 7:29pm On Aug 15, 2020
Mjbolt is this your goat ?
Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by FLYFIRE(m): 7:30pm On Aug 15, 2020
MESSI IS THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME PLAYER. This ONE march DOES NOT define him.

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Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by mariahAngel(f): 7:32pm On Aug 15, 2020
"Messi resembled a truly beaten man after watching on as the Bundesliga champions ran riot in their Champions League quarter-final clash on Friday night"

This is where Ronaldo shines above Messi.
He never goes down without a fight. Until the final sound of the whistle, he doesn't back down.

I remember how he almost singlehandedly led an average Portuguese team to becoming European champions.

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Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by OJEEMAH(m): 7:34pm On Aug 15, 2020
zeusdgrt:

Damage control grin grin try another style grin
just so you know, am not a Barcelona fan. you guys should stop acting like Ronaldo is always perfect. Why didn't Ronaldo motivate man u when they were being crushed by Barcelona in 2009 UCL final or even save his beloveth real Madrid when Barcelona knocked them out of UCL in 2011.
Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by lexy2014: 7:34pm On Aug 15, 2020
Fastestmanalive:
Messi simply isn't captain material.

A true captain would have inspired his team to go on and win the match. I saw none of that in Messi.

That's not to say he isn't a good player though.

From a picture which was taken on d spur of d moment is now a summary of a person's leadership. Does d pix show everything that happened in d dressing room during d 15minutes break?
Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by lordprogress: 7:36pm On Aug 15, 2020
obonujoker:


How far guy, how many dribbles and pre assists yesterday from Messi? grin grin
How many dribbles did your Ronaldo manage in the last 5 years rubbish only to they score penal na him Sabi small farmers of Lyon na make una goat dey cry goat my foot.

Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by zeenaman: 7:38pm On Aug 15, 2020
This reminds me of Steven Gerrard in 2005 finals against AC Milan
Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by zeenaman: 7:42pm On Aug 15, 2020
Galactico4ever:
Messi wey no sabi talk.That captaincy was earned as the player to have stayed @barca the longest. Last time Bayern beat them 7-0,they blamed Messi's injury.Now they thrashed them 8-2 and they're blaming his poor leadership.Barka fans should calm down and take their disgrace in peace jare.
But why is Bayern always beating them in that shameful manner? This is not fair to the Spanish football

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Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by bayelsaowei(m): 7:42pm On Aug 15, 2020
DrayZee:

Keep letting sink in. Bayern were not in anyway defensive. Yet Messi could not score, nor assist. We barely even saw Bayern’s side of the post. You guys whine yourselves a lot.

The same Bayern trashed Barcelona 7-0 before. And that same Bayern swallowed 5 goals from Ronaldo alone.
and messi in 2015 destroyed that same bayern..its still football..messi was kind of completely fagged out yesterday...exhausted and week..he is old and tired...reason why as a barca fan I have suggested he leaves barca.. messi doesn't need anymore stress or work as a saviour anymore..he has paid his dues for that barca team..he has nothing to prove to the board or the fans..messi should leave to a younger team where he will relax and score tap ins and penalties...
Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by ojaysam25(m): 7:44pm On Aug 15, 2020
mariahAngel:
"Messi resembled a truly beaten man after watching on as the Bundesliga champions ran riot in their Champions League quarter-final clash on Friday night"

This is where Ronaldo shines above Messi.
He never goes down without a fight. Until the sound final whistle, he doesn't back down.

I remember how he almost singlehandedly led an average Portuguese team to becoming European champions.
Exactly...even when he was injured,you could see the pain and refusal to back down...he even overshadow the coach on the touchline....I think Madrid revival came this season when he visited them...tho as a Ronaldo fans messi is also a fantastic player.....let's say he is an introvert while Ronaldo is an extrovert...thats their personality....we can't judge him solely base on that...let's just Respect the two GOATs...

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Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by nedu666: 7:45pm On Aug 15, 2020
Messi did not shout or scream at his team mates because it is unlike him. what of the coach, where was the coach. Someone like mourinho wll savage the team from pitch to dressing room. Is the captain expected to do the job of a coach
Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by nedu666: 7:47pm On Aug 15, 2020
ojaysam25:

Exactly...even when he was injured,you could see the pain and refusal to back down...he even overshadow the coach on the touchline....I think Madrid revival came this season when he visited them...tho as a Ronaldo fans messi is also a fantastic player.....let's say he is an introvert while Ronaldo is an extrovert...thats their personality....we can't judge him solely base on that...let's just Respect the two GOATs...


Can Ronaldo do that with a coach like mourinho.
Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by okuta007: 7:50pm On Aug 15, 2020
Audacious19:
Messi can't be a leader, someone who could retire for losing a final even as the team captain can never be a leader.
The guy nah dictator spoiling Barca without them knowing, he wants all the glory, dictates who to buy, who to play, who to even pass to during matches like gurizeman, and coutinho. I wonder if this was Ronaldo the internet would have been on fire but Ronaldo has a perfect God who responds to his critics in special moments.
How can messi give up everytime they are losing, Roma, liverpool, Juventus and now Bayern no fighting spirit. No motivation mtcheew this one nah lizard goat abeg


YOU ARE VERY CORRECT - this is why he never won the world cup with Argentina or even Copa America- IF you watch Diego Maradona - his skills were 60% of what he is as an excellent players - 40% is his "never say die" attitude, confidence and ability to make the opponent scared that - "are you not afraid? I am the much talked about Diego Maradona"

If you watched the opening game against Cameroun at Italia 90, you see the way he tapped Stephen Tawtaw - the Camerounian skipper on his chest - like saying "how dare you kit up to play against me?" - Team Captains intimidate the opposing teams, inspire their team mates, seek to influence the referees and control the spirit and flow of the game to favor their team - Messi is not that person - he is a great player no doubt but seeing this half time video footage - He should give the skipper band to someone else - I THINK MESSI PLAYS BEST WHEN HE IS ROVING WITHOUT RESPONSIBILITIES OF BEING THE LEADER - HE THRIVES BEING THE SPOILER BUT DO NOT PLACE THE BURDEN ON HIM TO SECURE A WIN - ELSE HE WILL FALTER grin

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Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by jrusky(m): 7:50pm On Aug 15, 2020
Messi change club don't turn yourself to Mobutu and Mugabe of Barcelona.

Messi move on or dem buried your placental in Nou Camp or what?

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Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by Angelfrost(m): 7:52pm On Aug 15, 2020
fergie001:
ghettokid1 Fuckingmallam45 ebukahades10 GBEST90 vickyrotex paulolee Angelfrost emeijeh

Let him take his criticisms like a man!!!... He and his team mates didn't turn up last night at all.

But, lack of leadership is not even close to the problem of that team... It's a complete lack of personnel!!!...

Barcelona needs a brand new first eleven... Those guys who played last night should be either benched, or sold completely, with the exception of Messi and Suarez!!!

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Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by mariahAngel(f): 7:53pm On Aug 15, 2020
ojaysam25:

Exactly...even when he was injured,you could see the pain and refusal to back down...he even overshadow the coach on the touchline....I think Madrid revival came this season when he visited them...tho as a Ronaldo fans messi is also a fantastic player.....let's say he is an introvert while Ronaldo is an extrovert...thats their personality....we can't judge him solely base on that...let's just Respect the two GOATs...

Yes.

Most times I feel so sorry for Messi because they put so much pressure on him, both at the club side and their national team.
They just expect so much from him, and the more he gives, the more they want and when things go wrong, they blame him.

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Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by Asour: 7:53pm On Aug 15, 2020
JOHNSONSOLAFUNMI:
Been skillful is not enough to be a captain, Messi lacks that leadership quality, he only wants to hit the round leather game and enjoy his football


Ramos
Maldini
Puyol
Cristiano
Terry
Roy Keane
Kompany
Cassillas

My all time team captain favorite, the players I listed here would have shout at semedo, scream at Vidal for being stupid, motivate lenglet for allowing these 2 cheap goals, their body languages won’t event allow Suarez to act instead of playing, but Messi couldn’t do anything, too bad, the keeper ought to be given the captain hand band


Hahahaha!

Barca /Messi were very poor yesterday.

But where do you guys stand? Sometimes you claim Messi selects players for games, determine who Barca buys and chooses the coaches they hire. Now you guys say he takes no action.

*I have categorized you with those who make those statements.

Leadership doesn't have a single pattern. Stop pushing an agenda. Barca has failed from the board in many areas since Neymar's departure/other signings.

How many players in your "leadership" list has more individual/team trophies than Messi.

Leadership isn't a one way street of shouting at other players in public. Matter of fact Messi has shouted at players before (Rakitic specifically) and the press took it as "Messi controlling everyone".

The extroverted "bully" type IS NOT necessarily the only effective leadership style.

Cheers.

Hahahaha!

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Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by ojaysam25(m): 7:54pm On Aug 15, 2020
nedu666:



Can Ronaldo do that with a coach like mourinho.
Mourinho ego is something else...but I believe even him would understand due to the heat of the moment...

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Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by okuta007: 7:54pm On Aug 15, 2020
mariahAngel:
"Messi resembled a truly beaten man after watching on as the Bundesliga champions ran riot in their Champions League quarter-final clash on Friday night"

This is where Ronaldo shines above Messi.
He never goes down without a fight. Until the sound final whistle, he doesn't back down.

I remember how he almost singlehandedly led an average Portuguese team to becoming European champions.


he actually did in 2016 - if not for the injury at the finals but he refused to seat down - he was on the sidelines dishing out instructions and allowing his team mates to see he is there and t(he)y needed to win that trophy at all cost - and it happened

THAT IS LEADERSHIP!!!!!

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Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by Asour: 8:01pm On Aug 15, 2020
zeusdgrt:

Is not coach we have seen cr7 instruct players on pitch for club and country not Everytime the coach have a clear perspective.Stop giving excuses for the truth grin

We've also seen CR7 getting annoyed that another teammate scored and not him. We've heard him say that if other teammates played like him the team would have won the game too. Or talking about his transfer move on a UCL night where he had a relatively quite performance thereby taking away the headlines from Bale.
That's clearly NOT perfect leadership.

*This doesn't take away from CR7 being one of the best players in the world/in history too. But he certainly isn't a perfect leader.


I'm ok that you guys like the Extroverted "bully" leadership style BUT that not the only style their is. Otherwise Messi wouldn't have more Trophies than 95% of the "leaders" on that list. Messi has been a leader before he became a Captain. I personally don't like the captain thing even.

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Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by ojaysam25(m): 8:02pm On Aug 15, 2020
mariahAngel:


Yes.

Most times I feel so sorry for Messi because they put so much pressure on him, both at the club side and their national team.
They just expect so much from him, and the more he gives, the more they want and when things go wrong, they blame him.
He is a great player so that come with great responsibility same as Ronaldo...they have both pay their duels....I doubt if we can ever see such a close rivalry again....they are on a league of their own...no one comes close.

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Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by Starz825(m): 8:03pm On Aug 15, 2020
ThierryJay:


I acknowledge you have the right to troll Messi o. But abeg Lyon is very very very far from this current Bayern Munich team. Lyon and Napoli are closer in level. Let that sink in.
na so Lyon easy... wasn't it the same Lyon man city couldn't beat at Etihad not to talk of taking a point at home ground o...Lyon won 2-1 and the return leg was 1-1...so in UCL no team can be underrated as it is called champions league... every Damm team is a champion...

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Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by Maobichek: 8:06pm On Aug 15, 2020
Auladimeji:
I'm a Barcelona, I saw it when Messi bow down when they scored but let us be real no matter what Barcelona can never beat Bayern Munich... Common!they have Muller, Lewandoski,Coutihno,Gbary,perisic and many more,My team Barcelona have nothing apart from Messi and Dejon(they really tried)...Honestly, as a Barcelona yesterday was not humiliation, the real humiliation was against Liverpool and Roma,we were cut off.... Barcelona fans should not be ashame,we can't defeat Bayern Munich and still defeat Manchester city,ko possible.. I'm still a Barcelona fan no matter what
. Please don't mention Coutinho again because Barca rejected him for no just reason, do you know that Barca will pay Liverpool 5 million pounds if Coutinho win champions league with Bayern? Muller is older than all Barca players and he still play well. The sole problem of Barca is inability to replace Iniesta and Xavier, until Iniesta is replaced, Barca will continue to play poorly.
Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by Maobichek: 8:10pm On Aug 15, 2020
Wish2Die:
Barca should should reshuffle the team, aged legs and mediocre players everywhere, they can't seem to be buy the good and right players, are they in crisis or what, imagine pjanic joining barca another old pair of legs, semodo showed how poor he is defensively. Don't blame messi
. Do you know that Muller is older than all the Barca players? please forget about age cos Muller rubbished that clam by his performance. Barca should try and get someone who can play like Iniesta and Xavier, until then Barca will continue to suffer elimination ok.
Re: Messi Slammed For Lack Of Leadership During Defeat By Bayern Munich by Asour: 8:13pm On Aug 15, 2020
Dayodragon:





Maradona made it clear at the world cup. Messi is not a team leader..

I'm glad it's obvious today.. things has not been fine since Iniesta and Xavi left..

He's been a leader since he was 21/22.

Messi /Barca have been poor. True.

But leadership is galvanized influence to a goal. Style/Nature doesn't suit you fine, say it. Don't throw away anything you don't agree with. The board at Barca has made massive errors. You can't redeem those errors always on the pitch.

They even listed Company as a better leader.
Leadership isn't only "brutal bully" approach.

In Nigeria here too many believe effective leaders are those that shout/bark. Hahaha!

Every approach that brings results is effective NOT only those you agree with.

Funny how extroverts think they alone own the world.

Cheers.

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