₦airaland Forum

Blackking98:
Bro I know. It's just funny because I know for sure some of this people saying SS will not allow biafra sea access is funny, they're not from my region.

Nobody would barr ships to and from Biafra if they have an agreement with Nigeria and pay their dues instead of claiming "international water" here and there

Area4Area:
Nobody would barr ships to and from Biafra if they have an agreement with Nigeria and pay their dues instead of claiming "international water" here and there

Lol
If biafra leaves nigeria , Niger Delta will leave nigeria, I assure you as an Akwa Ibomite. We will still do business

Igbochief001:
lol I just I grew up in ph , have my investment in uyo ...even if Igbo and south south are going to be different country ...movement between both countries would be relatively easy m smooth

Igbo just want a chance to control their destiny ...votes have never counted in abia ...yet u blame the people for voting bad governor's ? ..didn't ikpeazu make a deal with buhari to win ?

imo my state voted a man n supreme Court did magic ...if we were independent this things won't happen

Movement won't be smooth if one of the parties don't want it, would you force the other party?

Area4Area:
....and nobody cares about any inconsequential Igbo who wants to annex other people's resources without negotiating with them.
See a Kanuri talking when others are talking.
Whatever you're trying to say about your ancestors concerns nobody, if that was how you were sired, the Yorubas have no problem with that and even wish you well.

Shut up you demonic yoruba are wicked. You always pray for Igbo downfall out of envy. Use that your Igbo hating energy and fight skull miners and poo eaters in your occultic yeroba kingdom. Igbo will continue to progress whether you bastards like it or not. You can die now you son of lucifer.

Ghengiskhan:
1)
Without South South state I believe Biafra will be landlocked is not better to form Biafra which includes at least rivers state?

what is the meaning of the word landlocked? Let's start with that

Firespitter:
Are you not? He must be one of the oshogbo ritual parts dealer just like you. Birds of a feather... Get sense.

Biafra is landlocked, deal with that

Blackking98:
Lol
If biafra leaves nigeria , Niger Delta will leave nigeria, I assure you as an Akwa Ibomite. We will still do business

It may not be automatic moreover you can't predict that for now

Area4Area:
It may not be automatic moreover you can't predict that for now

It could be through peaceful dialogue or bloody civil war, but it is very certain Niger Delta won't remain Nigerian if biafra leaves, im from the ND and I've lived all my life in the ND, that's the opinion here.

Area4Area:
Movement won't be smooth if one of the parties don't want it, would you force the other party?

there is international law for situations like this and it's simple to settle ...the water is treated as international water

secondly there is no reason niger would not want to allow ships enter Biafra

Igbochief001:
there is international law for situations like this and it's simple to settle ...the water is treated as international water

secondly there is no reason niger would not want to allow ships enter Biafra

Ask him very well. I doubt he's from my region.

Christistruth00:
Can the SE 5 States truly sustain its about 30 Million Population? People don't take IPOB seriously because of this and IPOB have not convincely explained how .

Agricultural technology in the SE is not yet that advanced.

When IPOB include other People's territory in their Map it makes it more obvious that even IPOB don't really believe the 5 SE States have the Agricultural technology or space necessary to sustain their Population and so there exists a hidden Land grabbing or hijacking agenda like happened in 1967.

Ebonyi State might just be able to sustain it's Population with its available Land and Agricultural resourcefulness but it is very unlikely that the other 4 Southeast States can.

This is the funniest post i ever come across, ok let's look at it this way. I left my parents at the age of 16, my parents where completely against it. I actually wanted to leave with my friend, but he was afraid of Independence, citing that we had nothing to start on, I tried to convince him that our parents had nothing when they started out yet they succeeded in their little way but he will have none of it. Fast forward to today, I have table water factory, a bread factory a poultry and fish farm and a polyethylene extruding, printing and polyethylene waste recycling factory. You put so much emphasis on natural resource but the truth is that, you only need natural resource to succeed. My childhood friend now works for me.

jude79:
This is the funniest post i ever come across, ok let's look at it this way. I left my parents at the age of 16, my parents where completely against it. I actually wanted to leave with my friend, but he was afraid of Independence, citing that we had nothing to start on, I tried to convince him that our parents had nothing when they started out yet they succeeded in their little way but he will have none of it. Far forward to today, I have table water factory, a bread factory a poultry and fish farm and a polyethylene extruding, printing and polyethylene waste recycling factory. You put so much emphasis on natural resource but the truth is that, you only need natural resource to succeed.

I love this comment..

May you will forever be prosperous , this is exactly the case of Nigeria at the moment.

Ghengiskhan:
Do you know that if Nigeria decide to build dam somewhere in rivers it will greatly affect the river you are talking about.(Ethiopia and Egypt have similar issue now) small rivers are not the same as international waters

And don't be quick to drum for war, look at Qatar on the request of Saudi Arabia many arab country closed their airspace to them and nothing happened.

I have been quite busy of late, but each time I log in to nairaland, I keep seeing lots of people making ignorant assertions and I end up being forced to correct them.

Firstly, you compare apples with oranges when you bring the Ethiopia vs Egypt Nile analogy here.
Do you even know what it takes to build a dam?
At what point will Nigeria build the said dam?
Before you can build a dam that will affect the flow of the Niger, you will also need a vast area of land that will be converted into a reservoir/artificial lake. Such vast expanse of lands is not available in the South to be wasted on a useless dam.

Any dam built anywhere north of Onitsha will have no effect on the port. Dams were built in Kainji and Shiroro, but never affected the River Niger around Onitsha down to the mouth of the tributaries with the Atlantic ocean. The River Niger that lies in the North often dries up during the harmattan but the section here in the South never dries up for a number of reasons.

Lastly, Niger Delta will even be at the mercy of an only Igbo Biafra. This is because, while Biafra will be homogeneous, they on their own will be heterogenous. The danger in that is that all the ethnic groups there will never be satisfied at the same time. Now, all Biafra will have to do will be to sponsor any agrieved ethnic/power block there and watch them destroy themselves. Don't think this is farfetched because it actually happens in many parts of Africa. Check Congo, Rwanda, Burundi, Uganda etc. and their relationship with one another. For instance, if Ijaws happen to be the ones in power, and the Ibibios feel aggrieved, they will team up with Biafra's support to oust the Ijaw leadership.

You talking about Nigeria denying Biafra airspace, where has that happened before? The moment Biafra becomes recognized as a UN state, Nigeria can never block its airspace. Can the Arab countries block Isreali airspace despite surrounding it? Can Eritrea block Ethiopia's airspace? It only reason why it happened during the civil war was because Biafra was not yet recognized as a sovereign state.

Blackking98:
Lol
If biafra leaves nigeria , Niger Delta will leave nigeria, I assure you as an Akwa Ibomite. We will still do business

Lol, don't mind that guy. He does not understand what is at stake here.

The major reason why Nigeria is afraid of Igbos leaving is because they know that once Igbos break away, the rest of the country will break into pieces.

Historically, the Ibibios have always related with Igbos more than any other group. The two groups have always been good neighbors. I can even bet that they would be more comfortable to relate with Igbos than with Ijaws or other South South groups.

South South is just a combination of disparate ethnic groups that were lumped together for political reasons. What does people of Akwa-Cross have in common with say Ijaw or Bini?

South South's present boundary can never metamorphose into a country for several reasons, rather there would be countries like Ijaw/Niger Delta rep, Akwa-Cross rep, Bendel rep or Biafra that may comprise Akwa-Cross. Be rest assured there would be realignments once Nigeria breaks up.

jude79:
This is the funniest post i ever come across, ok let's look at it this way. I left my parents at the age of 16, my parents where completely against it. I actually wanted to leave with my friend, but he was afraid of Independence, citing that we had nothing to start on, I tried to convince him that our parents had nothing when they started out yet they succeeded in their little way but he will have none of it. Fast forward to today, I have table water factory, a bread factory a poultry and fish farm and a polyethylene extruding, printing and polyethylene waste recycling factory. You put so much emphasis on natural resource but the truth is that, you only need natural resource to succeed. My childhood friend now works for me.

All you mentioned is it located in Space or on physical Land ? Was the wheat for the Bread Factory produced in Biafra? What of the Animal feed was it produced in Biafra ?

The main reason for the mass Starvation during the War was because Biafra didn't produce enough food for itself.

As we speak more than 90% of the SE food supplies are still from outside.

Ebonyi State is trying but it can't feed the SE.

One of the reasons Europeans migrated to America was because of Land despite their technology that was already producing internationally traveling Ships.

It was also the reason China suffered so much from famines.

Area4Area:
Nobody would barr ships to and from Biafra if they have an agreement with Nigeria and pay their dues instead of claiming "international water" here and there

What dues are you talking about? Did Nigeria build any canal like the Seuz or Panama that our ships will have to pass through? Or are you saying Biafra bound ships will pay dues for passing through Atlantic ocean or the Rivers Niger or Imo?

Funny people

Listen I am one of those who have said it before and I am from the SS.

Do you know how igbos insult us on this forum? Calling us drunkards and all manner of unprintable names, so why would they need to use the waterways of drunkards to get their goods in and out?

I don't even bother arguing with them anymore, I just sit down and observe and I know I'm not the only one observing. Those in strategic positions are observing too and at the right time, they will be paid back in their own coin.

Even if they're allowed to use the ports, they should be slammed with huge taxes.

That way, they'll learn to briddle their tongues.

Blackking98:
Bro I know. It's just funny because I know for sure some of this people saying SS will not allow biafra sea access is funny, they're not from my region.

Christistruth00:
All you mentioned is it located in Space or on Land ? Was the wheat for the Bread Factory produced in Biafra?
The main reason for the mass Starvation during the War was because Biafra didn't produce enough food for itself.

As we speak more than 90% of the SE food supplies are from outside.

Ebonyi State is trying but it can't feed the SE.

Lies!!
Biafra has enough arable lands to be food sufficient. What will happen is optimization.
Secondly, how many countries produce all their food needs without buying some from others?

Igboland still has vast lands that can be used for arable farming in all our states. In Ngwaland, Okpala, Ohaji, parts of Anambra, Nsukka etc. there lots of lands that are currently not being utilized fully.

Nigeria will even be at the mercy of Biafra, because if we refuse to buy your tomatoes, onions, and cow (things we can get elsewhere) your people will suffer terribly. Your excess perishables will go to waste. Your cattle will become worthless and your economy which relies heavily on agriculture will tank.

It is mostly igbos who even do the insulting...

Once anyone mentions that they're from the SS and has a dissenting opinion on Biafra, igbos will rain all manner of insults on the person.

Well we're watching....and remember, Niger Deltans don't believe in protests, we just take action.

tutudesz:
Bro it's both ways, Some people claim to be SS to insult and support Biafra on all social media platforms. So the original SS people hardly comment on issues because of insults, if your comment favour one side you will be insulted and if it's favour another side insults.

Leave them to be claiming "international water". The worst part is, some of them have been saying they'll dredge parts of SS lands to get to the sea...



Try nonsense and even Donald Trump and the UN will be powerless to save you.

Area4Area:
Nobody would barr ships to and from Biafra if they have an agreement with Nigeria and pay their dues instead of claiming "international water" here and there

proeast:
Lies!!
Biafra has enough arable lands to be food sufficient. What will happen is optimization.
Secondly, how many countries produce all their food needs without buying some from others?

Igboland still has vast lands that can be used for arable farming in all our states. In Ngwaland, Okpala, Ohaji, parts of Anambra, Nsukka etc. there lots of lands that are currently not being utilized fully.

Nigeria will even be at the mercy of Biafra, because if we refuse to buy your tomatoes, onions, and cow (things we can get elsewhere) your people will suffer terribly. Your excess perishables will go to waste. Your cattle will become worthless and your economy which relies heavily on agriculture will tank.

Why didn't Ojukwu use all this Agricultural prowess during the War and instead allowed Millions to Starve?

Oga, anything 200 nautical miles into the sea of where Nigerian land stops belongs to Nigeria or SS if we decide to break away.

If we refuse letting you use our seaports there is nothing anyone can do about it. The worst the UN can do is sanctions and that will only make your situation worse.

Igbochief001:
there is international law for situations like this and it's simple to settle ...the water is treated as international water

secondly there is no reason niger would not want to allow ships enter Biafra

proeast:
Lol, don't mind that guy. He does not understand what is at stake here.

The major reason why Nigeria is afraid of Igbos leaving is because they know that once Igbos break away, the rest of the country will break into pieces.

Historically, the Ibibios have always related with Igbos more than any other group. The two groups have always been good neighbors. I can even bet that they would be more comfortable to relate with Igbos than with Ijaws or other South South groups.

South South is just a combination of disparate ethnic groups that were lumped together for political reasons. What does people of Akwa-Cross have in common with say Ijaw or Bini?

South South's present boundary can never metamorphose into a country for several reasons, rather there would be countries like Ijaw/Niger Delta rep, Akwa-Cross rep, Bendel rep or Biafra that may comprise Akwa-Cross. Be rest assured there would be realignments once Nigeria breaks up.

stop this nonsense attachment Ibibios don't have any association with you guys. Uneghe ado useme mkpo

proeast:
Lies!!
Biafra has enough arable lands to be food sufficient. What will happen is optimization.
Secondly, how many countries produce all their food needs without buying some from others?

Igboland still has vast lands that can be used for arable farming in all our states. In Ngwaland, Okpala, Ohaji, parts of Anambra, Nsukka etc. there lots of lands that are currently not being utilized fully.

Nigeria will even be at the mercy of Biafra, because if we refuse to buy your tomatoes, onions, and cow (things we can get elsewhere) your people will suffer terribly. Your excess perishables will go to waste. Your cattle will become worthless and your economy which relies heavily on agriculture will tank.

Why didn't Ojukwu use all this Agricultural prowess during the War and instead allowed Millions to Starve?


Remember the population of the SE then was only a quarter of what it is now?

Instead Ojukwu announced that the natural Northern border of Biafra was River Benue and that he had the Military means to take over that Area ( Rich Prime Agricultural Land).

Ojukwu's Army nvaded Benue and occupied some Villages but failed miserably and had to beat a retreat .

Parisian:
Listen I am one of those who have said it before and I am from the SS.

Do you know how igbos insult us on this forum? Calling us drunkards and all manner of unprintable names, so why would they need to use the waterways of drunkards to get their goods in and out?

I don't even bother arguing with them anymore, I just sit down and observe and I know I'm not the only one observing. Those in strategic positions are observing too and at the right time, they will be paid back in their own coin.

Even if they're allowed to use the ports, they should be slammed with huge taxes.

That way, they'll learn to briddle their tongues.

Last time I checked, South South has many ethnicities and they all have different interests. So do you mind speaking for your own group?

The creation of SS is just for political convenience in Nigeria. Once Nigeria breaks up, South South will break up too and each of the ethnic groups there will decide where to belong.
The interest of the Ijaws is not the same with the Itshekiri or Ibibio and the rest. The earlier you know that, the more reasonable you will sound.

Christistruth00:
Why didn't Ojukwu use all this Agricultural prowess during the War and instead allowed Millions to Starve?
Remember the population of the SE then was only a quarter of what it is now?

Isn't it obvious why?
Okay, I will tell you why!

Due to aerial bombardments by the Egyptians, serious farming couldn't take place in Biafra and many farming communities were lost!

Secondly, millions of Igbos returned en mass, and they were yet to settle when the war broke out. Majority of those that died of starvation were returnees.

Biafra research and development unit even developed some foods during the war.

Parisian:
Oga, anything 200 nautical miles into the sea of where Nigerian land stops belongs to Nigeria or SS if we decide to break away.

If we refuse letting you use our seaports there is nothing anyone can do about it. The worst the UN can do is sanctions and that will only make your situation worse.

some times u just talk when u don't know shit ...why do u give niger and Togo light

two go and read about Paraguay then come back

sageb:
[s]stop this nonsense attachment Ibibios don't have any association with you guys. Uneghe ado useme mkpo[/s]

I'm not responsible for your lack of proper education. Where did I attach with anyone? Are you alright?

Is this a case of inability to read and comprehend or what? Hundreds of thousands of Ibibio people have been living in Aba since the colonial times. They have interacted over the ages due to close proximity, same way parts of Igboland have interacted with Igala.

Please don't qoute me next time if you have such low IQ, because I'm allergic to dull people.

All of these South South wannabes
una no dey tire for talk? access to the sea is just an agreement the elites from all the respective countries will sit and discuss with some money on the table all rivers and air space will be opened forever for biafra.you all here are commoners and don't have a say in your streets talkless of national issues na for nairaland una go decide who go have access to sea..

Igbochief001:
there is international law for situations like this and it's simple to settle ...the water is treated as international water

secondly there is no reason niger would not want to allow ships enter Biafra

Agreement with Nigeria is the keyword, no agreement no deal.
It would be settled no doubt but Biafra must first agree that it's trying to use the resources of another country

proeast:
Isn't it obvious why?
Okay, I will tell you why!

Due to aerial bombardments by the Egyptians, serious farming couldn't take place in Biafra and many farming communities were lost!

Secondly, millions of Igbos returned en mass, and they were yet to settle when the war broke out. Majority of those that died of starvation were returnees.

Biafra research and development unit even developed some foods during the war.

Then why are over 90% of your food supplies still coming from outside afterall the War ended more than 50 years ago? Why are you even importing more food now than you did back then?

The prime Agricultural Lands of the Eastern Minorities was the only thing that could have saved Biafra.

once they were not on board it was finished.

The only thing was it took Ojukwu almost 3 year's to see and acknowledge it

Parisian:
Oga, anything 200 nautical miles into the sea of where Nigerian land stops belongs to Nigeria or SS if we decide to break away.

If we refuse letting you use our seaports there is nothing anyone can do about it. The worst the UN can do is sanctions and that will only make your situation worse.

Lol, this one is still ignorant.
You mean that you minorities can actually stand Igbos in any form of hostilities? How exactly??

Blowing up pipelines at night or doing hit and run on poorly trained soldiers in the creeks doesn't mean anything.

Who is talking about using your ports when ships, even smaller ones can easily sail to Onitsha or Obehie?

Or you mean, you will attack cargo ships going to Biafra? Stop talking like a kid please.