Dasuks:


So in essence, fulani stays winning.

Guyman02:
It's sad that these people are falling for this Taqqiya called peace accord which implies the perpetrators keeping areas they have captured by killing and driving out the indigenous people and going Scot free without prosecution for murder.
By implication, this is what Dr Mailafia is saying of phase one. Fulani invaders are going to get more land for RUGA in that axis.
Phase 2 will see them moving into urban areas and doing the same thing then another peace accord will be signed.
Then the leadership of the urban areas will be shared between the Atyap and the Fulanis, then as time goes on the traditional institution of the Atyap will be degraded and the Fulani Emir will be given influence with federal government cover.
Ask Yoruba people in Ilorin and the Nupe tribe how they got to be ruled by Fulanis. The real Nupe royalty was banished to Patigi from Bida by Fulani jihadists, then Patigi was made a local government ward in Kwara state instead of Niger state by military regime

sharonihemena:
The people of Southern Kaduna will never be pacified with El Rufai as the Governor of the State. He’s perceived as being far worse than the bandits attacking them. As much as I respect El Rufai as a principled man, he’s too insensitive to occupy the position of a Governor.

DapperGuy:
Three tribes Hausa, Fulani & Atyep are warring in Atyep kingdom. The fact that the kingdom is named after the Atyeps speaks volumes. But settlers, who were received with open arms, chose to wage war on their hosts.

This is what El-rufai wanted all along. To kill the indigenes so they would eventually sue for peace and share their lands with settlers.

SmartProf:
Any peace process that allows the babaric killers go without being punished makes no sense. You can't destroy what you can't create, and end up signing a peace deal. Why didn't the killers prioritise peace & conflict resolution strategies before destroying livelihoods? Rubbish.

shariff84:
We’ve paid some Fulani to stop killings in Southern Kaduna – El-Rufai
DECEMBER 3, 2016

Kaduna State Governor Mallam Nasir el-Rufai has said his government has traced some violent, aggrieved Fulani to their countries and paid them to stop the killings of Southern Kaduna natives and the destruction of their communities saying that the renewed violence is carried out by bandits.

El-Rufai made this known while fielding questions from some select Journalists in his office in Kaduna.

He said: “For southern Kaduna, we didn’t understand what was going on and we decided to set up a committee under Gen. Martin Luther Agwai (rtd) to find out what was going on there. What was established was that the root of the problem has a history starting from the 2011 post election violence.

“Fulani herdsmen from across Africa bring their cattle down towards Middle Belt and Southern Nigeria. The moment the rains starts around March, April, they start moving them up to go back to their various communities and countries.


“Unfortunately, it was when they were moving up with their cattle across Southern Kaduna that the elections of 2011 took place and the crisis trapped some of them.

“Some of them were from Niger, Cameroon, Chad, Mali and Senegal. Fulanis are in 14 African countries and they traverse this country with the cattle.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/12/weve-paid-fulani-stop-killings-southern-kaduna-el-rufai/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

mfm04622:
Who told you they fight was to share land? To show how stupid you are, all the land in a state belong to the State Government. If it is about land, El-rufai would have just allocated the land to whoever he want! And nobody can do anything about it!

SmartProf:

Brotherly, I'm now done producing the beat .

Mokason28:
I know a SARS official who told me one on one face to face few years ago when kidnapping was so high along Abuja Kaduna road .... He told me when they arrived Kaduna Elrufai gave them instructions on areas in the forest to comb and areas not to go close to ... In his own words (Elrufai) that’s where my boys are

mfm04622:


Who told you they fight was to share land? To show how stupid you are, all the land in a state belong to the State Government. If it is about land, El-rufai would have just allocated the land to whoever he want! And nobody can do anything about it!

Jaqenhghar:

The major wahala of the southern Kaduna people is their inability to come together and forge a united front. Since the inception of that state the6 have never voted a non Hausa governor because of their internal squabbles. They then decide to vote Hausa man to spite the other tribes. What El rufai is doing is long overdue. This should have happened earlier but somehow past hausa governors didnt want to spite them. El rufai has the right amount of malice and fearlesness to do what he did. I feel sorry for them

mfm04622:


If they ask you to name villages that were taken over by violence, you will run away!
You stay far away from Kaduna, you do not know anything going on in Southern Kaduna, yet you want to contribute!

You have not seen or read the outcome of the process, yet see how you have summarized it as if you were the secretary to the committee!
For your information, this process was led by the indegenes. Who told you RUGA was a factor in the crisis?

Dasuks:


Brody thanks for enlightening me on this. I get what you're saying. What ethnic groups are there tho? Gwaris etc ? U know when ppl dont have bigger perspectives they tend to make mistakes.

The numbers that come out of the whole conflict is frightening. U lived in KD before ?

Jaqenhghar:


I have lived there a long time. I cant name the all the tribes off the top of my head there are about 5 -6 minus the gwaris. There is the Ham (which people erroneously call Jaba), the bajju, those based in Kagoro, area among others. Now each tribe is always trying to outdo the other as the most sophisticated or the most superior. My aunty was actively involved in their politics though she wasn't from there and I remember how she used to complain about their lack of unity. She used to say that a day is coming when they will lose everything. This was about 20 years ago.
The numbers are very very frightening. For long these fulanis have always abhorred them and have always shown them they are inferior. This is simipar to what's happening in Plateau. The minor tribes there keep butting heads against esch other while the muslim hausa fulanis keep increasing their presence

Dasuks:

But all these ppl in Southern KD Plateau Benue etc all rose to top positions within the army during the military era. What did they do with all that power and influence? In some periods ( esp Gowon and IBB eras) they were as powerful as the northern muslim oligarchy.

DapperGuy:


You are stupider! If the fight is not about land, what is the fight about? Wawa!

anonimi:


Really?
Just like that


www.nairaland.com/attachments/8744292_tmpcam1127966872_jpege0a8c4be7449683b6d5804cc18386d05

Guyman02:


We know the agelong landgrabing scheme of the Fulani across Nigeria, that was how they made Hausas almost irrelevant in Nigeria even though they are a minority

Hedonisco:


It's just like asking what OBJ or even Goodluck especially did with their power when they were at the helm. I think most of those who ruled Nigeria before now were somewhat considerate and cautious. Nigeria has never had such a callous, shamelessly bigoted and ethnocentric regime like the current Buhari disaster. And this precedent MUST be followed (and even amplified) by the next Southerner-- or Middle-Beltan led administration. If Nigeria (South and Middle Belt) can survive this atrocious Buhari regime, then the North must tolerate and survive whatever the next administration comes up with, even and especially including resource control/restructuring. If the North tries to fight it then the contraption called Nigeria MUST come to an end.

Jaqenhghar:


I have lived there a long time. I cant name the all the tribes off the top of my head there are about 5 -6 minus the gwaris. There is the Ham (which people erroneously call Jaba), the bajju, those based in Kagoro, area among others. Now each tribe is always trying to outdo the other as the most sophisticated or the most superior. My aunty was actively involved in their politics though she wasn't from there and I remember how she used to complain about their lack of unity. She used to say that a day is coming when they will lose everything. This was about 20 years ago.
The numbers are very very frightening. For long these fulanis have always abhorred them and have always shown them they are inferior. This is simipar to what's happening in Plateau. The minor tribes there keep butting heads against esch other while the muslim hausa fulanis keep increasing their presence

Dasuks:


Fair. I agree that the barefaced ethnic chauvinism this period is quite unusual. Let's see how things unfold.

My question tho is that these ppl once were the lifeblood of the army. Those MB areas. They had sinecures, positions etc. U cant have all that and appear so helpless just a few decades after. OBJ and Jona are still recent and they made many of their associates wealthy enough to be mini institutions in their domains. Plsu, SW and SS arent losing their lands to the banditry happeneing in KD and co.

U feel me eh ?

SmartProf:
Any peace process that allows the babaric killers go without being punished makes no sense. You can't destroy what you can't create, and end up signing a peace deal. Why didn't the killers prioritise peace & conflict resolution strategies before destroying livelihoods? Rubbish.

Dasuks:


Hmmm. So what do u mean by losing everything? Land, power and economic standing? I mean that would be relegation to semi-slavery bro....

But all these ppl in Southern KD Plateau Benue etc all rose to top positions within the army during the military era. What did they do with all that power and influence? In some periods ( esp Gowon and IBB eras) they were as powerful as the northern muslim oligarchy.

Jaqenhghar:


True land and everything. First they were rendered irrelevant politically , then economically now they stand to lose their land. Slavery is what it is and its unfortunate. I think the problem is while they held top positions in the army, they did not carry their people along. They only enjoyed the privileges alone, they and their families. You cant point to one thing they put in place to empower their people. Instead I dare say they helped the Hausas hold on to power.

webizone:

Then what happens? Will the people get back their lands?

mfm04622:


If they ask you to name villages that were taken over by violence, you will run away!
You stay far away from Kaduna, you do not know anything going on in Southern Kaduna, yet you want to contribute!

You have not seen or read the outcome of the process, yet see how you have summarized it as if you were the secretary to the committee!
For your information, this process was led by the indegenes. Who told you RUGA was a factor in the crisis?

BotherMleeper:


Did you express the same sentiments when Yaradua and GEJ gave amnesty to ND militants who've killed and kidnapped hundreds

mfm04622:


Please tell me how crisis had led to land grabbing in the past. Name the village where other tribes took over a village after killing the owners of the village. Just one example.

Again, If El-Rufai want to give land to Fulani, he doesn't need to kill anybody to do that! As a governor, he will just announce it! Simple.

So come up with another reason to hate El-Rufai