Dickeyrider:
Igbos are not tolerant yet they want biafra. I have never seen a tribe more confused

You are actually more confused cos I don't seem to see the correlation between the topic and Biafra.

Bkayyy:
The Supreme Court should also do justice and allow our Northern women to dress the way they like. It is not all about attacking Igbo customs, what is good for the goose is good for the gander

To the best of my knowledge Ukeje v Ukeje was an Ndigbo affair?

Chukkson:


You are actually more confused cos I don't seem to see the correlation between the topic and Biafra.

They claim to be fighting for justice, & oppression yet women are denied their fundamental rights to property?

favor914:
They claim to be fighting for justice, & oppression yet women are denied their fundamental rights to property?

AND YOUR NOT EVEN IGBO.

WHY ARE IGBO WOMEN UNBOTHERED?


STOP CRYING MORE THAN THE BEREAVED.

Princedapace:


Exactly my point. Just that the idea of women being financially considered before marriage is not yet popular. Till date, most men still run 80 percent of the family bills. This need to stop as well because u cant give a lady assets only for her to be married to already made man while ur sons cant marry already made woman. He needs to be already made to even attract an already made lady.

These things need to change as well else the pressure on men financially will kill them finish.

Where is the sense/logic in this?

The daughters inherit and marry made men, while the men can’t marry made women?

Who are the daughters marrying? Goats?

Which 80% of bills are you people running? With which salary? Npower or minimum wage? Only on Nairaland...

Archtype:
you were in a haste to comment without reading good meaning into what I wrote

There is no good meaning in the Supreme Court judgement resulting in increased divorce. None at all.

alexistaiwo:
This issue goes deeper than you people think.


The elders who made this age long tradition of exempting the Igbo female child from inheritance did so because they know that after extorting her husband of astronomical amount of money during her wedding process, the husband will be able to recoup his wedding expenses with profit if his wife inherit anything from her family since whatever she owns is by extension also his.



You think yahoo yahoo started with Internet age?

NO WONDER KAI! A BIG BOTTLE OF WINE FOR YOU.

They've customary law but they still envy others having Sharia law though theirs is full of subjugation & exploitation. There is no perfect law, full of justice & completeness like Sharia, a system of law that touches all aspect of life, a law that doesn't always need amendments because of its flaws.

obama30:


Christianity has made many Igbo’s to be confused in life, they are not sure if to follow Igbo’s religion or Christianity.

There are things that consider as Taboo in Igbo religion and custom, but I will mention few but not all that concerns daughters or Igbo’s family.
1) A lady that refuses to marry despite suitors continues asking her hand in marriage.
2) A lady that got unwanted pregnant or has a child without wedlock, unless he has the child with his father approve.
3) A lady that goes into an Oracle temple
4) A lady that climb palm tree or plug a kola nut.
5) A lady that carry or touches family ancestral staff, ancestral staff made to me touch by elderly men.
6) A married lady that that bleep outside her wedlock and even got pregnant.

Now if a lady cannot have access to Igbo religion temple and cannot touch staff or perform any ritual as head of family, how can she lead the family as head? This is for Godian religion worshipers or Igbo traditional religion worshipers.

Being a woman forbid her from doing many thing because she knew that he circle is a big issue to sacred things. So for a female child to lead a family may have a big tousle in Igboland, the Justice intentionally trying to put sword in Igboland.

For the Christians too, there’s never a place bible recommended inheritance to women, so why is the Bishop being confuse.

Woman have never being in highest position in any church since my 60 years on living, does it mean they are not qualify to be there?

The problem with some Igbo’s is that they don’t know if they are Christian or traditional worshipers.

This law can work in the house of mix faith but cannot work in house of Traditional worshiper because, traditional worshipers settle their daughter in the same evening after traditional marriage.

The daughters of traditional families knew that a lot of good packages await them in the evening after their traditional marriage therefore they get married and received goodies from the entire family.

But as for confuse Christian families, they are only interested to receive from son in-law and forget to settle their daughter.

So this verdict is useless and can’t work for traditional families in Igboland.

I thought you were jew. Judaism is your tradition. How do jews treat girls in family affairs?

EgusiShankly:

Where in edo state?

Benin. The first son takes possession of the house or houses where the father lived before his demise. Note that it does not matter if the first son is the last born.

Esan own be say a woman is not even entitled to anything just like in the East.

SpecialAdviser:
Am an Igbo, I support that every female should have right to their father's property.

My daughters will have right to my property.

Anybody against it is just plain s.tupid.

Hahahaha....... nagode mutumina. that means Igbos have been stupid right from kalcher and traditions. kai kai kai wallahi I like you.

I laugh in Odenigbo.

What they have refused not saying here is that whenever an Igbo lady gets married, the father settles her with her own inheritance as she goes into her husband's house and bears a new surname. I've seen Igbo men settle their daughters with houses, estates, cars, and other valuable properties as she goes into her husbands house. My mom was settled by her family with 2 ladies motorcycle in the days when owners of white horse bicycles were respected. Teachers and civil servants rode bicycles to work then.

It is the husband that marries the woman and her post-marital inheritance lies in her husband's domain no longer in her father's house. Her mother's inheritance is also hers in Igbo custom.

What the law will simply encourage is for criminal minded men to marry ladies from wealthy families so as to share in the largess and wealth of their father-in-laws and confront brother-in-laws for properties that they were not present when the 'sweat laid the bricks'. Chaos!

The yoruba Judge simply read an academic note not a judgment. He is not ethnically-wired to understand the nittygritty of that customary law and why wise elders of Igbo land enacted it thousands of years before his forefathers were born.

The law is deeper than quoting paper sections and subsections, it is unimplementable. You can't force Igbo men to will their properties into another family where their daughters are married into after settling the daughter with her own share of the family properties when they she got married.

oilygirl:


I don't mean to sound biased but what part of Igboland are you from?

I am from Enugu. I will never mind what the tradition says. All my female kids will have right to what I have.
From my siblings, even before I started getting money,my elder sister took better proper care ofour parents than my elder brothers.

Whats unfair in tradition should be jettisoned.

SpecialAdviser:
Am an Igbo, I support that every female should have right to their father's property.

My daughters will have right to my property.

Anybody against it is just plain s.tupid.

Your reasons negate Igbo customs and tradition....probably you are from osuh family.

golddare:


Benin. The first son takes possession of the house or houses where the father lived before his demise. Note that it does not matter if the first son is the last born.

Esan own be say a woman is not even entitled to anything just like in the East.

I think it varies among clans.I am from Owan.
The first male child gets the house but every other property is shared between siblings.

true2god:
A supreme court headed by an Fulani man whose intent is to destroy Igbo tradition but is hell bent on preserving Arabian and Islamic culture in Nigeria. While I am an advocate of gender equality and I equally against the use of Nigerian institution to destroy an old Igbo culture. This law will never fly but only on paper.

Hmm, I hope you are not also an advocate against racism, and human rights abuse?

Ishilove:
So many hidden posts

Why do moderators hide posts, and then ban people at will?

arinze3131:



u people will just b saying rubbish here against Igbos. u reverence ur women yet they prefer 2 marry Igbo guys. we both know Igbo men treat their women way better dan yorubas and hausas.

Liar, the only wife that get everything free is Hausa wife...it's optional for her to contribute a kobo in the family all responsibilities are on the neck of the husband....anything otha thn that is contrary to the marriage agreement.

SpecialAdviser:
Am an Igbo, I support that every female should have right to their father's property.

My daughters will have right to my property.

Anybody against it is just plain s.tupid.

If you right in your will that your daughter and yoruba husband to take over your mansion in the village, nobody will fight it. But if you die intestate, the community will not allow your daughter bring in strangers to desecrate their land, that's you are really Igbo.

Noneroone:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/04/inheritance-supreme-court-voids-discrimination-females-igboland/

Isn't this an old news? Lalasticlala

and how does the court get to rule on "tradition"? It is an academic exercise.

Lalasticlala see

ZZ22:
Its on the father to will his properties to his children. A wealthy father that has enough would will to both sons and daughters but that of the sons would be of more economic value to that of the daughters. An average man will first consider his sons before the daughters that would get married to a man that has benefited from his father's property. This is how the cycle goes and whatever the supreme court does cannot override the decision of the father in willing his properties as he learnt from his father.

In Lagos state, the inheritance laws disallow any parent from leaving any of their children out of their wills. So even if you disown them , if they go to court, they will be victorious - applies to both males and females.

EgusiShankly:

I think it varies among clans.I am from Owan.
The first male child gets the house but every other property is shared between siblings.

I know but my point is that it's a culture that relegated females, why not the first child instead of being gender bias. Imagine how you will feel if you are the firstborn but a female or a situation whereby the first wife had 4 girls and the man decided to marry another wife that eventually had a son.

golddare:


I know but my point is that it's a culture that relegated females, why not the first child instead of being gender bias. Imagine how you will feel if you are the firstborn but a female or a situation whereby the first wife had 4 girls and the man decided to marry another wife that eventually had a son.

OK. I get you now.

Coronabirus:
They've customary law but they still envy others having Sharia law though theirs is full of subjugation & exploitation. There is no perfect law, full of justice & completeness like Sharia, a system of law that touches all aspect of life, a law that doesn't always need amendments because of its flaws.

Sharia is not customary, it’s religious. Hausa’s and Fulani also have their customary laws outside of Sharia. Sharia should not even be allowed in Nigeria. It should not be recognized. Just like Church law is not recognized.

FrLukas:


Sorry to burst your bubble but you only have outcasts in Igbo culture.

Nothing like that in Yorubaland...so I can't relate.

A non Igbo,
Killing himself over Igbo case that won't add value to his life is an igbo outcast.

Noneroone:
I bet that over 95% of Igbo's don't know about it talk more of coming to agree with it. Females inherit properties in Igboland although most fathers are much more reserved when it comes to lands. Only ancestral properties are barred by tradition to be inherited by women and that won't change tomorrow. For some places where women are totally forbidden from inheritance, it is a traditional issues not a legal one.

Do you know that eastern region parliament abolished OSU system about 60 yrs ago? But I bet the members themselves wouldn't agree to married osu if they met one afterwards. Which is why its is still practised where it is found today.It is a traditional issue and can't be settled by legal show-offs.

You will be surprised

golddare:


Now let's reason this together, if the first son is the last born then he takes over the house even if that's the only house. If the first son is the first born and he is not rich enough to do the burial alone he loses out. Its not only in the East that marginalisation of women is going on, its happening in Esan land too. I know its culture and it has caused a lot issues between families.

Possibly, but most times what you are expected to do to claim that right are not expensive, maybe just to buy the cloth to wrap the dead body. You would be expected to entertain people and of course your siblings are expected to contribute but they won't disinherit you because you can't entertain the guests. What if you are the only son, would they give your house to a kinsman because you don't have money.
Like I said women can inherit the father's properties, there might be a few places where this is not the case.

tot:
Why can't people simply make wills? That would have the final say over any custom.

What of if the man died without a will?

herich:
A non Igbo,
Killing himself over Igbo case that won't add value to his life is an igbo outcast.

Does that also include Osu?

golddare:


I know but my point is that it's a culture that relegated females, why not the first child instead of being gender bias. Imagine how you will feel if you are the firstborn but a female or a situation whereby the first wife had 4 girls and the man decided to marry another wife that eventually had a son.

You need to look at how villages where structured then, what challenges they faced and how it is addressed.
The houses makes up the clan and the clan makes up the village. Each house head is a decision maker, these decisions are made in the respective associations and age group, there are age groups that makes war decisions, there those that prepare for war and fights the war. If the woman inherits the house, that house is effectively cut off, she can't join in the decision making, neither can she mobilize her sons for war, her children are not from that village, they might even be from the enemy's place. When the woman marries, he goes to his husband's place, the house will no longer count as a force in the clan. The house would collapse
Most cultures in the world do not give women the right to inherit titles of their father or to be the head of their house.
Many of the reasons might no longer be tenable, so necessary changes are acceptable to ease everyone's suffering.

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Dude , I'm not Igbo... If I was I wouldn't hide it bro...

uglodoh:

What of if the man died without a will?

Most countries have laws that address this. I don't know about the laws in Nigeria, which is why people should write wills.

If a person dies without a will, it means they have died "intestate." When this happens, the intestacy laws of the state where they reside will determine how the property is distributed upon their death.