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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 10:42am On Aug 29, 2020
Maximus69:
So what is his rank in the list of world's richest? cheesy
I guess the riches of the world is doing Mr Paul Allen RIP, a world of good where he is currently waiting at, hmm? KMT
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 10:48am On Aug 29, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
I guess the riches of the world is doing Mr Paul Allen RIP, a world of good where he is currently waiting at, hmm? KMT

So in a nutshell when talking about the world's richest men Bill's name came out not as a partner in Microsoft but as the owner! cheesy

The same way God made mention of angels like Michael and Gabriel in the book that wasn't given nor dedicated to angels but for enlightening humans, that's why he made it clear that everything you and i are seeing today is his work, he single-handedly masterminded everything! smiley
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 10:55am On Aug 29, 2020
Maximus69:
So in a nutshell when talking about the world's richest men Bill's name came out not as a partner in Microsoft but as the owner! cheesy

The same way God made mention of angels like Michael and Gabriel in the book that's wasn't given to angels but humans, that's why he made it clear that everything you and i are seeing today is his work, he single-handedly masterminded everything! smiley
Mr Paul Allen RIP, was always addressed as Microsoft’s Co-Founder. He was as much wealthy as Bill Gates before Bill Gates surpassed him.

In spite of all work Emusan has been doing on you, you still are hellbent on insisting that creation was not personally done by God. That God never rolled up His sleeves and got His Hands dirty
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 10:59am On Aug 29, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
Mr Paul Allen RIP, was always addressed as Microsoft’s Co-Founder. He was as much wealthy as Bill Gates before Bill Gates surpassed him

Wow! Please what position did he held in the list of the world's richest during his lifetime? smiley
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 11:03am On Aug 29, 2020
Maximus69:
Wow! Please what position did he held in the list of the world's richest during his lifetime? smiley
At one time he was the 6th richest man. Now please quit asking questions, you easily could find out for yourself. Thank you angry angry angry
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 11:07am On Aug 29, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
At one time he was the 6th richest man. Now please quit asking questions, you easily could find out for yourself. Thank you angry angry angry

Well the entire world knew Bill Gate but only few knew the other name, that's all i'm saying Sir! cheesy
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by bloodofthelamb(m): 1:00pm On Aug 29, 2020
Janosky:


This question keeps coming back to haunt you, in spite of your fruitless attempts to dodge it.

What is the meaning of Hebrew 7069 (Hebrew Qanah in Psalms 139:13, Proverbs8: 22 & Genesis14:19,22?


The screenshot here proves that the moniker "bloodofthelamb" is a Lienus grin
You people can only deceive those who do not study and search out things for themselves. Janosky, what is the Hebrew word for create? Was the Hebrew word "Qanah" used in describing God creating the heavens and the earth in Genesis?

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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 1:00pm On Aug 29, 2020
Please next time you're writing such an epistle, don't include my moniker because i only read short and straightforward comments! undecided
So whenever you want to include me in your comment make sure you're brief, i don't have all the time going through such lengthy comments like this.
Thanks!
Csonice1:
FOR US TO CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THIS MYSTERY, WE NEED TO HAVE A CLEAR CONCEPTION OF WHO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.:GOD.
In the following, we shall find answers to the questions of many: some scriptures were highlighted (not all; they were just too many: we will address them, if need be). Now, to business.


Cc: Janosky , Blabbermouth , bloodofthelamb , Haddeylium, Maximus69, DappaD, Chatinent, Janosky,
DrLiveLogic, Emusan, Csonice1, Petra1,Anas09, Solite3 :

The word "God" simply means:
Creator and ruler over the universe: it would be very unscriptural to exempt The Father, His Word or His Spirit from the responsibility or credit of creation. The Spirit of God is God Himself, unlimited by a body; the same Spirit is the Spirit of Christ.
Now, The Lord is the Spirit*(IICor.3:17)
The first appearance of the Spirit of the Lord was as a creator*(Genesis1:1,2)



Genesis1:1,2
1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. [3And God said....]"


The Word was with God in the beginning: and He Himself (The Word) being God.*(John1:1&2)
There is nothing [ absolutely nothing] that was created that was not created by Christ; He created all things; all angels; all dominion and all strata of created existence. Anything created, that was not made by Christ does not exist.*(John 1:3, Hebrews 11:3)



John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God. 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.


The significance of the word "God" is that whoever bears that Name is the creator and Highest Authority or ruler over the universe; having existence from the beginning.
It is a position:an office: represented by the Throne[singular] of God. Whomever sits on the Throne is God: because He is the Creator and is Almighty : Alpha-Omega. It so happens that ELOHIM [Father, Son and Spirit] qualified for that position.

THE FATHER IS CREATOR
THE WORD IS CREATOR
THE SPIRIT IS CREATOR

THE FATHER SITS ON THE THRONE: THE SON SITS ON THE SAME THRONE: BOTH HAVE THE SAME SPIRIT; THE CREATOR.
THREE PERSONS IN ONE GOD.

The reason [why] God is called God is found across all of Scripture; because He is the possessor of the heavens and the Earth, He created the Heavens and the Earth; the Earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof.*(ref.psalm89:11, psalm104:24,30)

Psalms 104:30 Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.

It so happens that the eligible occupants [scripturally] of that office - The Throne - ;
is the Father, His Word and His Eternal Spirit, all United in one.
*
Genesis1:1,2
psalm104:30
John 1:1-3
Hebrews1:1-3
Colossians1:15-17, Colossians2:8-10


Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the water.

Psalms 104:30 Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.

John 1:1-3
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Hebrews 1:1-3
God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;


EXAMINING THE SCRIPTURES CAREFULLY*( Philippians2:11)

"And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father"

Note that it is not "God,the Father"-but it is -
"God the Father" ; they are two different things.
"God the Father" is signifying the dimension(person) of God called "The Father".
In other words, this implies literally that if there is "God the Father", then obviously there is God the Son [scripturally speaking]. And matt.28:19 United them with the Spirit in the Name ( not names) : This Name- speaking of the Authority already spoken of in verse18. That Name is Lord [the position now occupied by Jesus]: that Name is God : Having authority (power) in Heaven and on Earth; it's the Name of He that sits upon the THRONE.
*Matt 28:18&19


Matthew 28:18,19
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:


The Lord Jesus was in God as an integral dimension of Him: being His Word. The Word came out(forth) of the Father and was with Him, even in the beginning: And the Word was God because he sat with God on the Throne and was the creator: because He is God's Word by the power of His Spirit* (John1:1-3, Hebrews11:3)


John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God. 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.


[b] Now, when the time came for the redemption of man: [something wonderful happened]: He made himself of no reputation and took upon Him the form of a servant and was made in the likeness of a man; despite being equal with God.
Here, having made himself of no reputation, he was subject (obedient) to the Father and the Father sent him into the Earth for this purpose. No one took his glory from Him, he laid it down; No one took his life from him, he became mortal of his own accord. So, all power, kingdom and glory was in the hand of the one who sat on the throne; He decides what happens; Jesus has to trust that the love of God will see him through_ that the Father will not allow Him to see corruption_ that after he had drank from the cup, that the Father will raise him back to glory and he wasn't mistaken. Through integrity, the Father will always stick to His Word; as touching their agreement through the Spirit before the world began.*
Therefore, when He[Christ] had by Himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of Majesty on High (the same position of authority with the Father)*
Romans1:4
Hebrews1:1-3
Philippians2:5-11 [/b]




What Christ manifested is the most remarkable form of humility, love and faith ( trusting on the integrity of the Father).
[ I could envision Him come down from the throne and say: "Father, here I am, send me"]* He made himself of no reputation; that's to say He sold out his right to the throne and became like a servant, even lower than angels. He laid down all and became mortal.
When He arrived at the Earth he said " I have come to do your will" *
Hebrews10:5-7
John12:27&28
John 16:27&28
John 17:5


Now, it was in the power of God the Father at this moment to do as it pleases with Him; for He [Christ] had committed himself to the one who judges righteously; having stripped himself of glory: he humbled Himself, being of no reputation, as a man, like a servant; a Son sent from the One who sits on the Throne. Jesus, as a mortal was tempted at all points yet without sin; he laid down all, including His life trusting that God will fulfill His promise according to the predeterminate council.

God the Father proved His integrity by remaining faithful to His Word; Therefore, the Father was with Him, and after Jesus had suffered and died as was written of Him, The Father by the Spirit raised Him up and Enthroned Him Again.
*
John 16:27,28
Romans1:4
Acts2:23-36
Hebrews1:1-3
Matthew28:18,19
Philippians2:5-11



Paul said truly:
Acts 20:28
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 1:24pm On Aug 29, 2020
Maximus69:

Are you saying Bill Gate did not build his business empire by himself? cheesy
no Bill Gate did not.
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Janosky: 1:26pm On Aug 29, 2020
Csonice1:

FOR US TO CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THIS MYSTERY, WE NEED TO HAVE A CLEAR CONCEPTION OF WHO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.:GOD.
In the following, we shall find answers to the questions of many: some scriptures were highlighted (not all; they were just too many: we will address them, if need be). Now, to business.[/b]

Cc: Janosky ,
Paul said truly:
Acts 20:28
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Acts20:28 the verse wey Studylight.Org , your Trinity brothers, say na FRAUD, you still import this Fraud come here grin grin
FRAUD is not a mystery to understand.


God (Hebrew EL) is a title of Yahweh, Man , angels and Jesus Christ.
It's understandable.
grin grin grin grin
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 1:27pm On Aug 29, 2020
Maximus69:


So what is his rank in the list of world's richest? cheesy
Do you know how dumb you sound?

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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 1:29pm On Aug 29, 2020
Maximus69:


So in a nutshell when talking about the world's richest men Bill's name came out not as a partner in Microsoft but as the owner! cheesy

The same way God made mention of angels like Michael and Gabriel in the book that wasn't given nor dedicated to angels but for enlightening humans, that's why he made it clear that everything you and i are seeing today is his work, he single-handedly masterminded everything! smiley
Bill Gate could be known as the owner of Microsoft but he never built it himself.

So answer me, Did God create all things by himself?
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 1:30pm On Aug 29, 2020
Janosky, maximum and all jws answer the question, did Jehovah create all things by himself?
You always dodge because jwo teaching is not is nothing but manipulation.

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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Janosky: 1:31pm On Aug 29, 2020
solite3:
Bill Gate could be known as the owner of Microsoft but he never built it himself.

So answer me, Did God create all things by himself?

Job38:4-7. Prov 8:22-30 ,Hebrews1:2 Through His own Son, The God and Father of Jesus created the Universe"

Jesus, The first born of every creature grin

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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Janosky: 1:35pm On Aug 29, 2020
solite3:
Janosky, maximum and all jws answer the question, did Jehovah create all things by himself?
You always dodge because jwo teaching is not is nothing but manipulation.

Solite3 sifia pains grin
Continue to console yourself making fictitious claim grin
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 1:40pm On Aug 29, 2020
Who is the Lord of Lords and king of kings?

Jehovah
Deuteronomy 10:17
For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

Jesus

Revelation 17:14
These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Revelation 19:16
And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

Jesus is the only Potentate

1 Timothy 6:15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;

Since the king of kings and the Lord of Lords is the only Potentate,
Jehovah and Jesus are essentially the same.

Maximus, janosky and anyother Jehovah witness who is the king of kings and the Lord of Lords?

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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 1:42pm On Aug 29, 2020
Janosky:


Job38:4-7. Prov 8:22-30 ,Hebrews1:2 Through His own Son, The God and Father of Jesus created the Universe"

Jesus, The first born of every creature grin

grin why are you running from the question, Did Jehovah create all things by himself?

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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 1:46pm On Aug 29, 2020
Janosky:


Solite3 sifia pains grin
Continue to console yourself making fictitious claim grin

Pained about false witness? Hahahaha, you must be high of your delusions

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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 1:47pm On Aug 29, 2020
solite3:
Who is the Lord of Lords and king of kings?

Jehovah
Deuteronomy 10:17
For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

Jesus

Revelation 17:14
These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Revelation 19:16
And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

Jesus is the only Potentate

1 Timothy 6:15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;

Since the king of kings and the Lord of Lords is the only Potentate,
Jehovah and Jesus are essentially the same.

Maximus, janosky and anyother Jehovah witness who is the king of kings and the Lord of Lords?


Jesus Christ! smiley
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 1:48pm On Aug 29, 2020
Maximus69:


Jesus Christ! smiley
hahaha, thread closed

So Jesus is Jehovah, the only blessed and only Potentate.

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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 1:49pm On Aug 29, 2020
Maximus69:


Jesus Christ! smiley
I have saved this your reply.

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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 1:50pm On Aug 29, 2020
I thank God for maximus for a knowledging the truth, of who Jesus is.

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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 1:52pm On Aug 29, 2020
solite3:
I have saved this your reply.

You can save it as long as you'll love to but mind you he is not Jehovah who gave Jesus the name above all other names and ask everyone both in heaven and on earth to bow in his name! smiley
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 1:56pm On Aug 29, 2020
solite3:
hahaha, thread closed
So Jesus is Jehovah, the only blessed and only Potentate.

Wow! Wow!! Wow!!! cheesy

So Joseph is Pharaoh because the Egyptian King gave Joseph the position that's above all the existing chiefs and persons in Authority back then in Egypt shey? cheesy

Please study your Bible well, JEHOVAH totally differs from Jesus! cheesy

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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 2:05pm On Aug 29, 2020
Maximus69:


You can save it as long as you'll love to but mind you he is not Jehovah who gave Jesus the name above all other names and ask everyone both in heaven and on earth to bow in his name! smiley
Jehovah describe himself as the Lord of lords.
Jehovah cannot give his titles to another.

Isaiah 42:8
I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 2:08pm On Aug 29, 2020
Maximus69:


Wow! Wow!! Wow!!! cheesy

So Joseph is Pharaoh because the Egyptian King gave Joseph the position that's above all the existing chiefs and persons in Authority back then in Egypt shey? cheesy

Please study your Bible well, JEHOVAH totally differs from Jesus! cheesy


grin
Joseph never bear Pharoah's title or was Joseph ever pharoah of Egypt? grin
Pharoah remains Pharoah,

There can never be two kings in a kingdom,

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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Janosky: 2:13pm On Aug 29, 2020
solite3:
hahaha, thread closed

So Jesus is Jehovah, the only blessed and only Potentate.


WAYO man, the only invisible, God is Jehovah , 1st Tim1:17. John 5:37. John 6:46.

After his resurrection, Jesus dwells in unapproachable light, Acts9:3-5,8-9, his light blinded Paul for 3 days..
1 Peter 1:3-4,Acts9:20,Paul & Peter further confirm his identity grin

Solite3 Confused LIAR grin grin
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 2:17pm On Aug 29, 2020
solite3:
Bill Gate could be known as the owner of Microsoft but he never built it himself.

So answer me, Did God create all things by himself?

You guys just love this your TRINITY God that's dead!
It can't help but continue to divide you until there is over 41,000 religions claiming Christians while Trinitarians alone makes 99.9% of the whole number yet there is no unity amongst you! smiley

Well i'll still take you back down memory lane!

Joseph was sold into Egypt like a slave, he was imprisoned on false charges but after his encounter with Pharaoh the king made Joseph the number two man in all Egypt, so Joseph went out from Pharaoh and build cities storing food in all Egypt for seven years.

Please in other countries back then, who fed the world back then during that famine Pharaoh of Egypt or Joseph (the Hebrew)?

Remember the name Joseph is known only within Egypt while Pharaoh is the name known globally as the ruler of Egypt, note again that the Egyptians themselves when they needed food and ran to Pharaoh (their own King) the King asked them to go and buy food from Joseph (the Hebrew)

A thorough meditation on this example will help any honest hearted person to grasp the difference between JEHOVAH and Jesus! smiley
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Janosky: 2:18pm On Aug 29, 2020
solite3:
Jehovah describe himself as the Lord of lords.
Jehovah cannot give his titles to another.

Isaiah 42:8
I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.


Matthew 28:18...
Bros, you no dey answer your Papa name/Title?

grin grin grin grin
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 2:19pm On Aug 29, 2020
solite3:

grin
Joseph never bear Pharoah's title or was Joseph ever pharoah of Egypt? grin
Pharoah remains Pharoah,

There can never be two kings in a kingdom,

Do you still remember that JEHOVAH permitted human kings to rule over Israel when He himself said "I am their King"? cheesy
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 2:22pm On Aug 29, 2020
Janosky:


Matthew 28:18...
Bros, you no dey answer your Papa name/Title?

grin grin grin grin

Let him go and slap Buhari's daughter before he knows that whoever does so have slapped the whole Nigerian government including all the arm forces in Nigeria! wink
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 2:23pm On Aug 29, 2020
Janosky:


WAYO man, the only invisible, God is Jehovah , 1st Tim1:17. John 5:37. John 6:46.

After his resurrection, Jesus dwells in unapproachable light, Acts9:3-5,8-9, his light blinded Paul for 3 days..
Acts9:20,Paul further confirm his identity grin

Solite3 Confused LIAR grin grin
where did you come out from?

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