gregyboy:



Funny fellow, you want to deniel him is other halfs yes he is benin.... Who is ancestors migrated to owo to rule yoruba people....


Please you yorubas should be liking my post just as you like that of Tao11 to encourage me

Have told you Oduduwa's son founded Owo unlike your Igodomigodo people that were colonized by Ife kingdom.

Did u listen to your king say he's from the lineage of Oduduwa? Look at the expression on his face when he made that statement. Its full of languages that brainwashed Edo like u will not understand.
Also he recognized Oramiyan as the first Oba of Benin ( A thing will have been telling people like you for decades here but chose not to believe always disproving it).

Many of Benin here said Eweka 1 was the first Oba.

More truth kept secret will be disclosed in the future.. Una go see una unclothedness. If Oba of Benin palace does not want to put the history straight? He will lose a lot of respect.

Oba of Lagos cannot lie about his origin, if it were to be Edo they will make themselves superman cheaply with history.

AreaFada2:

Wishy washy submission. More related to Ogunoye just because Olowo Ogunoye is currently ruling.

When did first Olowo came to Owo? What was his name?
Nobody can tell the story like a person who spans both cultures. The most objective.

Let us assume that first Olowo came from Ife, what about the ordinary Owo people? They also descend from Ododuwa?
Our people from SW still insist Oduduwa lived about 800 years ago. And claim his kids and grandkids began all the Yoruba kingdoms. So Yoruba historians have not explained how all YOrubas descend from Oduduwa.

People can be intolerant due to ethnic pride if they lioe. So whether Ijebu or Igala want to hear or do not want to hear is not my business. The empirical evidence is more important.

Boko Haram do not want to hear about people of all religions living happily together. But it does not mean their ideology is right.
Your corner side history has no relevance. It's a myth. I am partly a product of Benin campaign in Eastern Yorubaland.

Does it not surprise you how Owo royal practices closely resemble Benin monarch's?
If you were any close to the royal house as you claim, you will know.

Why won't royal practice resemble when they're from a source..they both look like Ife not Igodomigodo

Onijagidijagan:

Who in the south west that will believe that? Ordinary Akure is more than 800years.
Is an insult for you to say Ife kingdom is 800 years.
Is more than 8000 years. Do u know it is believed the world started from Ife? Is the world 800years old?
The eastern Yoruba your partly from are new settlement that could be 800 years old.
Have u ever hear Past Oba of Benin in dispute with Ooni? Never. If river forgets its source it will dry.
if Oba of Benin palace should insult Oyo kingdom or Ooni of Ife, he will be shown his source. Many more secrets the world does not know now will be unraveled to the Edos and the Oba of Benin.
A reasonable Oba of Benin that will reunite with the Source will emerge in the future.

Our history ain't fraud and ain't myth but the fact

I have no time to go through your post.

All I can say is that it's Yoruba writers saying Oduduwa Descended from mountain, from heaven, flew from Middle East 800 years ago.
And all Yoruba's descend from him. So it's those people rubbishing history by themselves.

By the way they claim Oranmiyan left Benin to found Oyo empire. In a hurried attempt to make Oduduwa a unifying figure for Yoruba by Ajayi Crowther and Samuel Johnson, they created a story that has taken many twists since.

Even Ooni of Ife and Olugbo could not agree on Oduduwa.

Individual Yoruba belief is cool but what is the official story?

I have written years ago here that it's a shame for Yoruba to claim 800 years since Oduduwa as Yoruba progenitor. We have been on this for years.

Onijagidijagan:

Why won't royal practice resemble when they're from a source..they both look like Ife not Igodomigodo

Wrong. Similarity is not due to any Ife.

There is still a video on YouTube when an Iloro chief highlighted the unique similarity of Owo and Benin monarchies. Owo being quite different other Yoruba practices. It was either during Igogo or coronation of Ologho Ajibade Gbadegesin Ogunoye.

I may be thousands of miles away but I still follow things by any means carefully.

Onijagidijagan:

You will be the first person on earth I will hear Benin and Ife never happened.

If with your attached historical account written by a white man, he clearly stated that Oba eweka came from Ife.

Everyone agreed The first Oba of Benin came from Ile-Ife.

Oba Ewuare( the second) during his coronation said he's the son of Oduduwa ( he knows what he meant by the statement)
The Ogisos of Benin that said Oba came from Ife are not Foolish.

I'm from Owo, Oba Ewuare1 of Benin was killed during a war with Owo I guess that's the relationship you're talking about.

Liar... Which Oba was killed in owo... Do u have any source to prove it...

See a historical source that talks abt Benin conquering Owo, ekiti and the rest

AreaFada2:

Wrong. Similarity is not due to any Ife.

There is still a video on YouTube when an Iloro chief highlighted the unique similarity of Owo and Benin monarchies. Owo being quite different other Yoruba practices. It was either during Igogo or coronation of Ologho Ajibade Gbadegesin Ogunoye.

I may be thousands of miles away but I still follow things by any means carefully.

Wait when we mention Benin in Yorubaland we see them as part of our people. Many Yoruba today thinks Benin language is Yoruba language (misconception though).
Owo and Benin are neighbors so there has to be similarities. Both kingdoms royal looks like Ife

In Owo we have Uselu (Center of a town) Ugbowo etc all this are related to (Obaship monarch they have in common) but Ife set the pace for them all.

Onijagidijagan:

Have told you Oduduwa's son founded Owo unlike your Igodomigodo people that were colonized by Ife kingdom.

Did u listen to your king say he's from the lineage of Oduduwa? Look at the expression on his face when he made that statement. Its full of languages that brainwashed Edo like u will not understand.
Also he recognized Oramiyan as the first Oba of Benin ( A thing will have been telling people like you for decades here but chose not to believe always disproving it).

Many of Benin here said Eweka 1 was the first Oba.

More truth kept secret will be disclosed in the future.. Una go see una unclothedness. If Oba of Benin palace does not want to put the history straight? He will lose a lot of respect.

Oba of Lagos cannot lie about his origin, if it were to be Edo they will make themselves superman cheaply with history.

Our oba is smart he is pulling some political strings with those words they know the truth,

The games is been played secretly, between benin and the entire yoruba, if benin had the political power to establish is myth, all yorubas will paying homage to the oba of benin,


But we the elite knows benin-ife is a lie stop masturbation on it, to uplift your dead ego unless you want to prove me wrong....... That it really happened


Your best yoruba defender couldn't defend his point despite been vast in both benin and Yoruba history


The oba of benin says... Lol funny yoruba guy....

The oba of benin also says they gave you oduduwa is that also truth?

Onijagidijagan:

Wait when we mention Benin in Yorubaland we see them as part of our people. Many Yoruba today thinks Benin language is Yoruba language (misconception though).
Owo and Benin are neighbors so there has to be similarities. Both kingdoms royal looks like Ife

In Owo we have Uselu (Center of a town) Ugbowo etc all this are related to (Obaship monarch they have in common) but Ife set the pace for them all.

You write based on knowledge from one side. I write based on looking from both sides.

A street in Uselu in Owo bears my family name.

Uselu in Benin was a village outside the wall of Benin City in ancient times. It was not part of Benin.

It's now a suburb of Benin City. In fact not distinguishable from Benin City anymore.

As for Ugbowo that borders Uselu (even farther from Benin), I have a family history with it that I'd narrate another day. The name already hints at it.

gregyboy:


Our oba is smart he is pulling some political strings with those words they know the truth,

The games is been played secretly, between benin and the entire yoruba, if benin had the political power to establish is myth, all yorubas will paying homage to the oba of benin,


But we the elite knows benin-ife is a lie stop masturbation on it, to uplift your dead ego unless you want to prove me wrong....... That it really happened


Your best yoruba defender couldn't defend his point despite been vast in both benin and Yoruba history


The oba of benin says... Lol funny yoruba guy....

The oba of benin also says they gave you oduduwa is that also truth?

How did Oba of Benin gave Oduduwa??
Hope is not Ekaladeran story you're still referring to? The Ogisos family has stressed Ekaladeran is a fraud.
Yoruba told you is fraud

Itsekiris your neibgours does not believe it and disapproved it.

Oduduwa is not even the direct father of Oranmiyan is like saying Oba Eweka 1 is the father of Oba Ereduwa does that make any sense to you?

Now tell me when Oyo kingdom and Ife kingdom was paying tributes or homage to Oba of Benin?
Benin palace will slap you if they hear such thing from you.

AreaFada2:


You write based on knowledge from one side. I write based on looking from both sides.

A street in my Uselu in Owo bears my family name.
Uselu in Benin was a village outside the wall of Benin in ancient times. It was not part of Benin.

It's now a suburb of Benin City. In fact no distinguishable from Benin City anymore.

As for Ugbowo that borders Uselu (even farther from Benin), I have family history with it that I'd narrate another day. The name already hints at it.

Uselu is in many Yoruba towns always the oldest part of town.
I can mention ten towns in south west that has Uselu or Iselu.
Is purely Yoruba thing not a family name thing.

Just like Oba's market is everywhere in Yoruba towns according to Oba traditions.

I doubt it if you ever stepped in Owo cause you won't have talk like this.

Onijagidijagan:

Uselu is in many Yoruba towns always the oldest part of town.
I can mention ten towns in south west that has Uselu or Iselu.
Is purely Yoruba thing not a family name thing.

Just like Oba's market is everywhere in Yoruba towns according to Oba traditions.

I doubt it if you ever stepped in Owo cause you won't have talk like this.

My brother read. I said my family has a street named after it within Uselu area. Please read b4 you reply. Do not be in a hurry.

Well, I have pictures I took with those old cars within Ologho Palace. The limousine Mercedes and the Rolls Royce used by Olowo Olateru Olagbegi II before his deposition. The pictures are less than 2 years old. I can even briefly put them up for you to see. I took those pics because I like classic cars and was wondering what restoring them would cost.

If you actually go to that Palace, you will know where those dilapidated old cars are parked not far from the market in the Palace.

That many cultures have oja Oba, Ekioba or whatever local version is common knowledge.

Onijagidijagan:


How did Oba of Benin gave Oduduwa??
Hope is not Ekaladeran story you're still referring to? The Ogisos family has stressed Ekaladeran is a fraud.
Yoruba told you is fraud

Itsekiris your neibgours does not believe it and disapproved it.

Oduduwa is not even the direct father of Oranmiyan is like saying Oba Eweka 1 is the father of Oba Ereduwa does that make any sense to you?

Now tell me when Oyo kingdom and Ife kingdom was paying tributes or homage to Oba of Benin?
Benin palace will slap you if they hear such thing from you.

You're slapping yourself in the face already to. Make the oba of benin come from ife.... After we are done with you, you will crawl back and another yoruba fellow will step in, Mraphel came in before you and he has gone


The bolded is one of the reasons myth is not good to be told , it always leaves gap space for people to fill,

Do you know they are about 100 of different myth from benin-ife historical connections do you want me to show you the very first one of the myth.... Lol


If you insist i will


So by your illustration the one who overlords is been payed homage to duely, so i ask did oba of benin pay homage to ife and alafin

Onijagidijagan:


How did Oba of Benin gave Oduduwa??
Hope is not Ekaladeran story you're still referring to? The Ogisos family has stressed Ekaladeran is a fraud.
Yoruba told you is fraud

Itsekiris your neibgours does not believe it and disapproved it.

Oduduwa is not even the direct father of Oranmiyan is like saying Oba Eweka 1 is the father of Oba Ereduwa does that make any sense to you?

Now tell me when Oyo kingdom and Ife kingdom was paying tributes or homage to Oba of Benin?
Benin palace will slap you if they hear such thing from you.

If there was no ekaladeran story how did oromiyan come to benin

gregyboy:



If there was no ekaladeran story how did oromiyan come to benin

Let's leave that for the future. A truthful Oba of Benin or Benin Palace chief will reveal the truth in future.
The story was proposed for peace to reign in the Oba's palace and Edo kingdom

gregyboy:



You're slapping yourself in the face already to. Make the oba of benin come from ife.... After we are done with you, you will crawl back and another yoruba fellow will step in, Mraphel came in before you and he has gone


The bolded is one of the reasons myth is not good to be told , it always leaves gap space for people to fill,

Do you know they are about 100 of different myth from benin-ife historical connections do you want me to show you the very first one of the myth.... Lol


If you insist i will


So by your illustration the one who overlords is been payed homage to duely, so i ask did oba of benin pay homage to ife and alafin

The early Oba of Benin not only paid homage to Ife but they also did the following:
Pictures depicting Oduduwa are kept in Oba's palace.
Yearly there's Oduduwa festival in Benin to respect Oduduwa.

When early Oba of Benin join their ancestors, they will be taken to Ife.
Amongst others

Onijagidijagan:

The early Oba of Benin not only paid homage to Ife but they also did the following:
Pictures depicting Oduduwa are kept in Oba's palace.
Yearly there's Oduduwa festival in Benin to respect Oduduwa.

When early Oba of Benin join their ancestors, they will be taken to Ife.
Amongst others

Lol.... Prove......


Benin attache........

Onijagidijagan:


Let's leave that for the future. A truthful Oba of Benin or Benin Palace chief will reveal the truth in future.
The story was proposed for peace to reign in the Oba's palace and Edo kingdom

You're bleeped up, bro

Were did you come out from,


So everything you said we should believe you because you said it with no prove

gregyboy:



You're bleeped up, bro

Were did you come out from,


So everything you said we should believe you because you said it with no prove

I gave u all d proves u needed. The rest leave it for the future

Onijagidijagan:

I gave u all d proves u needed. The rest leave it for the future

Which one

Lol, give me prove dating from 15 century to 1897 or any archaeological prove to ascertain benin really had connections with ife like you agreed to to

gregyboy:


Which one

Lol, give me prove dating from 15 century to 1897 or any archaeological prove to ascertain benin really had connections with ife like you agreed to to

Go and read the Benin history

Onijagidijagan:

Go and read the Benin history

Lol..... Run along old man

Onijagidijagan:

Who in the south west that will believe that? Ordinary Akure is more than 800years.
Is an insult for you to say Ife kingdom is 800 years.
Is more than 8000 years. Do u know it is believed the world started from Ife? Is the world 800years old?
The eastern Yoruba your partly from are new settlement that could be 800 years old.
Have u ever hear Past Oba of Benin in dispute with Ooni? Never. If river forgets its source it will dry.
if Oba of Benin palace should insult Oyo kingdom or Ooni of Ife, he will be shown his source. Many more secrets the world does not know now will be unraveled to the Edos and the Oba of Benin.
A reasonable Oba of Benin that will reunite with the Source will emerge in the future.

Our history ain't fraud and ain't myth but the fact

Dont pay attention to Areafadaa2 monicker because he knows yoruba fathered the first prince,who became the second king addressed as omo n' oba eweka(ọwọká).

European scholars or writers pay more attention to yorubas achievement because evidences discovered in BINI Palace as belonging to Yoruba people remained the reason,oviedos are fighting tooth&nail to get recognision,from world writers which is the reason, you see some of these Oviedos(children of Edos),especially from Bini quarters posting false information online.

How do you even want to relate with people who condemn their own son that wrote Bini HIstory? This alone shows you how desperate they are to achieve everything under false pretence.So,dont disturb yourself.at all. Devoid of these Oviedos, do you know Lanre Ogunoye ? Based in Lagos, into Property Consultancy.

Olu317:
Dont pay attention to Areafadaa2 monicker because he knows yoruba fathered the first prince,who became the second king addressed as omo n' oba eweka(ọwọká).

European scholars or writers pay more attention to yorubas achievement because evidences discovered in BINI Palace as belonging to Yoruba people remained the reason,oviedos are fighting tooth&nail to get recognision,from world writers which is the reason, you see some of these Oviedos(children of Edos),especially from Bini quarters posting false information online.

How do you even want to relate with people who condemn their own son that wrote Bini HIstory? This alone shows you how desperate they are to achieve everything under false pretence.So,dont disturb yourself.at all. Devoid of these Oviedos, do you know Lanre Ogunoye ? Based in Lagos, into Property Consultancy.

When orun oba ado head was dug, what was found inside?

Onijagidijagan:


Oduduwa is not even the direct father of Oranmiyan is like saying Oba Eweka 1 is the father of Oba Ereduwa does that make any sense to you?

This is the area a lot of Bini revisionists get confused. The Ogiamien family had said everything, Oba of Bini is an extension of Yoruba kingdom of Ifẹ.

lx3as:


This is the area a lot of Bini revisionists get confused. The Ogiamien family had said everything, Oba of Bini is an extension of Yoruba kingdom of Ifẹ.

So tell me ...what makes the Ogiamen family more truthful than the oba of Benin

gregyboy:



Lol..... Run along old man

Dat guy na useless guy...I don flog am b4 when he talk say Oba Akenzua give him pikin Yoruba name...
After I flog am finish , he dey beg me for list of Oba Akenzua children like say na me keep am

I dey 99.832538% sure say this guy never read Benin history extensively

lx3as:


This is the area a lot of Bini revisionists get confused. The Ogiamien family had said everything, Oba of Bini is an extension of Yoruba kingdom of Ifẹ.

They're confused indeed..the mistake just too obvious

Etinosa1234:


So tell me ...what makes the Ogiamen family more truthful than the oba of Benin

They're from the aborigines of Igodomigodo..

Why is it the Oba palace says they're the sons of Ogiso Owodo rather they say Oduduwa

gregyboy:



When orun oba ado head was dug, what was found inside?

Now 95% of Oba ado area of Ife has a lot of modern building now errected on it...is only the shrine part reserved for traditional worship. Beside heads and remain of Oba of Ado has been excavated in the past around the area.

Etinosa1234:


So tell me ...what makes the Ogiamen family more truthful than the oba of Benin

Hope you can enlighten us more about Ekiokpagha Treaty?

It's clear to the reasonable world that Ekaladerhan's moon light tale is to solidify and give credence to Oba of Bini as been indigenous to Igodomomigodo and relegate the treaty. Also for Igodomomigodo people's acceptance and cooperation. Oba Erediauwa was the author of all this. His son may uphold the treaty and the connection between Benin and Ifẹ.

Once more, I take nothing out of Ogiamien's case and they should also know that they can never relegate Oba of Bini status. Had Oba Erediauwa known this, he wouldn't have gone into promoting Ekaladerhan's story.
I also have no further submission to make on this; several facts had been submitted on this forum...You can simply join in, against Ogiamien family in the case.

Onijagidijagan:

They're from the aborigines of Igodomigodo..

Why is it the Oba palace says they're the sons of Ogiso Owodo rather they say Oduduwa

What evidence/eyewitness proof do u have that makes u say this...
That's what I want

I'm not ready for any back and forth

Etinosa1234:


What evidence/eyewitness proof do u have that makes u say this...
That's what I want

I'm not ready for any back and forth

Pardon phone auto correction problems

They're the aborigines of Igodomigodo..

Why is it that Oba palace will say they're from rhe linage of Oduduwa and not Ogiso Owodo rather they say Oduduwa?