flyingpig:
rada rada. So how come he is a serving senator representing abia North if his people so hate him

Cos we are in a useless country created by people like OUK and filled with people like you who have no iota of truth in them

Intrepid01:


Cos we are in a useless country created by people like OUK and filled with people like you who have no iota of truth in them

so OUK now na Lord lugard

DMerciful:
Giving one word response is a sign of low IQ. I won't respond to a dull brain like you again

I reply to only sensible comments not stupid tribalist comment telling people not to be a part of discussion on a Nigeria public forum about a Nigeria national party as if only Ibos own the people

Fool

Are you data driven? What's the difference in votes btw APC and PDP in both 2015 and 2019 presidential elections in SW? More than 600k and 300k respectively?

ArmedRobber:
what test did kalu pass that will translate to APC grabbing south east region

Except you re started following politics last year.you be should aware that prior to APC formation in 2014. Acn caucus have highest number of governors , lawmakers in the merger.

APC foundation was built on merger of the two biggest politicians from the regions with the 1st and 2nd most voting population.
Buhari North west region- 18m voters
tinubu South west region - 14m voters.

100s of Atiku can't defeat this merger.except the two decide to part ways

Tinubu delivered all of SW? With less than 600k votes margin in 2015 and less than 300k in 2019? You well so?

DEROX:
Yes he will force them to vote buhari whom they hate since 1999.Buhari took okadigbo as vice they rejected him twice so na kalu go deliver SE.Why do you think buhari called them 5% that was unable to stop him. Tinubu delivered all the SW hence wailers even blame us calling us afonja for bringing buhari on them.

What about Gbajabiamila?
Is British citizenship acquired by being born in Britain? Are you sure about this cos from what I know this is not the case

isthatso:


The problem with you people is ignorance.

Bukola was born in England so he was born with British citizenship, he had no choice in the matter, he did not voluntarily acquire citizenship of another country, he did not swear allegiance to Britain. Ngozi deliberately chose to become an American citizen and in doing so she swore allegiance to America. It is part of the process.

It is there in sections 66,107,137 and 182 of the constitution.


Section 66 provides for disqualification from seeking election into the National Assembly (House of Representatives and Senate); Section 107 provides for similar situations in for the House of Assembly; Section 137 provides for the President and Section 182 provides for the Governors. In all cases it is the 1st item in the list of things that disqualify a candidate.

For example, Section 107 provide thus:

(1) No person shall be qualified for election to a House of Assembly if –

(a). Subject to the provisions of Section 28 of this Constitution, he has voluntarily acquired the citizenship of a country other than Nigeria or, except in such cases as may be prescribed by the National Assembly, has made a declaration of allegiance to such a country;

The process for voloutary acquisition of US citizenship requires swearing of allegiance.

The difference between Saraki and Ngozi is the word “voluntary”.

She cant even become a minister again according to section 144. (5) which states

"No person shall be appointed as a Minister of the Government of the Federation unless he is qualified for election as a member of the House of Representatives."

Basically, you people are carrying fight for someone who has turned her back on Nigeria.....Quite frankly, i dont blame her.

O boy, even with internet you're still ignorant? Why did Abdulsalami's govt gazette a presidential pardon to enable him contest? Obj was indicted by a military tribunal for coup!To enable him contest, he was pardoned!

Intrepid01:


Lol...you’re so poor trying to make a point.
OBJ was imprisoned by a world renowned military dictator he wasn’t convicted of corruption. You can ask your elders who were adults at the time for further explanations, maybe they’ll tell you the difference between “detention” and “imprisonment”.

DMerciful:
What about Gbajabiamila?
Is British citizenship acquired by being born in Britain? Are you sure about this cos from what I know this is not the case

Yes I am 100% sure. The law was changed recently as to who and who is automatically a British citizen by birth but it does not apply to those born before the law came into effect.

DMerciful:
What about Gbajabiamila?
Is British citizenship acquired by being born in Britain? Are you sure about this cos from what I know this is not the case

So I just checked, the law was changed in 2002. After 2002, you are not automatically a British citizen simply because you were born there. Except your father or mother is a British citizen or your parents were settled in the uk at the time of your birth. Obviously like I said earlier this does not apply to people like Saraki and Gbaja who were born before 20o2 who acquire citizenship automatically just by being born there.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1981/61/section/1

DMerciful:
What about Gbajabiamila?
Is British citizenship acquired by being born in Britain? Are you sure about this cos from what I know this is not the case

I just realized Gbaja is an American citizen. Technically speaking, he should not be speaker as his American citizenship was acquired.

https://www.pulse.ng/news/local/lawan-gbajabiamila-may-lose-seats-over-dual-citizenship/1npp94t

Gbajabiamila is. In Nigeria, the law can be bent for loyalists. Sad![quote author=isthatso post=93604669][/quote]

fergie001:
Some comments here are terribly funny, is it as a result of the "likes" button or what?

I don't just understand.

what is this one saying now?

It came up them during the speakership election but was waived

isthatso:
I just realized Gbaja is an American citizen. Technically speaking, he should not be speaker as his American citizenship was acquired.

https://www.pulse.ng/news/local/lawan-gbajabiamila-may-lose-seats-over-dual-citizenship/1npp94t

kingzizzy:
The way I see it is that even though Igbos have been loyal to PDP, there is no point PDP fielding an Igbo man in 2023 if it will mean victory for Tinubu and APC

So the dream of all south easterners is to stop Tinubu's dream not to become president? lwkmd

DMerciful:
Gbajabiamila is. In Nigeria, the law can be bent for loyalists. Sad!

Indeed... Sad!

DMerciful:
O boy, even with internet you're still ignorant? Why did Abdulsalami's govt gazette a presidential pardon to enable him contest? Obj was indicted by a military tribunal for coup!To enable him contest, he was pardoned!

The ignorant one here is you! You’re trying so hard to compare a military trial concocted by a dictatorial military Govt with a legally convicted case of OUK in a court of jurisprudence ....you’ll need anoda life including the one you currently have to make a point with any sensible person. I know in many years to come your lots would have repeated the lie so many times to make it appear like it is the truth.

So why was a presidential pardon necessary to contest? Is a lower court superior to the judgement of the supreme court?

Intrepid01:


The ignorant one here is you! You’re trying so hard to compare a military trial concocted by a dictatorial military Govt with a legally convicted case of OUK in a court of jurisprudence ....you’ll need anoda life including the one you currently have to make a point with any sensible person. I know in many years to come your lots would have repeated the lie so many times to make it appear like it is the truth.

2023: Nigeria President of Igbo extraction

Here we go

DMerciful:
So why was a presidential pardon necessary to contest? Is a lower court superior to the judgement of the supreme court?

1. I am not aware there was anything like a pardon before he contested, I’ll need more proof before I can speak on that.

2. It is disheartening that we are here trying to rationalize the candidacy of a widely known corrupt man who has even been convicted by the court. It doesn’t make sense. Even as bad as Nigeria is, I promise him and all you his propagandist the only election he’ll win is in his state or SE.

Let's not get emotional. Obj was granted presidential pardon, internet is in your fingertips bro, confirm it. I dont want OUK to be president because he failed as governor however if the supreme court has overturned his conviction as a mistake, why are you holding onto it? Dont you know how the court hierarchy works?

Intrepid01:


1. I am not aware there was anything like a pardon before he contested, I’ll need more proof before I can speak on that.

2. It is disheartening that we are here trying to rationalize the candidacy of a widely known corrupt man who has even been convicted by the court. It doesn’t make sense. Even as bad as Nigeria is, I promise him and all you his propagandist the only election he’ll win is in his state or SE.

DMerciful:
Let's not get emotional. Obj was granted presidential pardon, internet is in your fingertips bro, confirm it. I dont want OUK to be president because he failed as governor however if the supreme court has overturned his conviction as a mistake, why are you holding onto it? Dont you know how the court hierarchy works?

Yes of course I know how the court hierarchy works, the eventual judgement always go to the highest bidder. Nonsense....no matter how hard you try, a pig will forever be a pig!

I said you're emotional, not fit for political arguments. You know how the court works, you accused the supreme court of your land of being bribed but when we say Nigeria is not working, let's restructure or break it, you disagree. If you agree that the supreme court can be bought, what hope do you have in Nigeria?
Put sentiments aside and take a logical stand. By the way I agree with you that the supreme court is compromised!

Intrepid01:


Yes of course I know how the court hierarchy works, the eventual judgement always go to the highest bidder. Nonsense....no matter how hard you try, a pig will forever be a pig!

Igbos are sleepwalking in all political parties not only in PDP.
Even in APGA we are sleepwalking

DMerciful:
I said you're emotional, not fit for political arguments. You know how the court works, you accused the supreme court of your land of being bribed but when we say Nigeria is not working, let's restructure or break it, you disagree. If you agree that the supreme court can be bought, what hope do you have in Nigeria?
Put sentiments aside and take a logical stand. By the way I agree with you that the supreme court is compromised!

Lol... I laugh at your trial at putting many things in to one comment. I’ll rather ignore the insults. We are not here talking about the best course of action to take about a country that is not working, that is a different discussion entirely and does not in anyway justify your initial position that led to this discussion between you and I. The discussion between you and I has to do with your trial at selling an unmarketable product like OUK.
I mean it is a dead on arrival mission, the more reason nobody is taking him seriously even in APC. If he likes let him continue to tour the length and breadth of this country between now and 2022 , he won’t even be considered for a V.P slot let alone of a Prexy candidate. Can’t you see no one in APC cares about his tours? But all of them are worried about another nigga sitting in bourdillon who is even yet to make a sentence on his 2023 ambition. Pls don’t get me wrong o, I can never root for anyone of them, they are all robbers and enemies of the masses. But even amongst them, there are senior members and junior members, OUK in the scheme of things in APC today is a small fry, truth be told!

AtikuNetwork:
This is an attempt to sow seeds of division in PDP and igbos should be careful not to fall for it. Atiku is what Nigeria needs. Igbos will be compensated for their loyalty at the appropriate time. We must think Nigeria first. Tribalism will not move us forward in this country.

The best compensation you can give any tribe in Nigeria is good governance.
Will Atiku provide that? I doubt.

NB: Good governance is not being better than Buhari, It's carrying out everything you promised the electorates and more in line with the will of the people.
BTW, isn't Atiku quite old for the post, come on man, we can do better than this.

yanabasee1:
Ugoji should go and rest and allow PDP to do their work....



Morever, it's against INEC law to start marketing or campaigning for a candidate when a date isn't put forth...



Expecting PDP to air their plans this early is just stupid thinking....


in the games of politics, PDP is more experienced than APC and they have a working committee to understudy qualified candidates to emerge in a sellable condition.....


Allow them to do their job and stop bringing up children's politics....

I pray thee, enlighten me on how PDP is more experienced than APC cuz the current situation suggests otherwise. BTW is politics really a game?

I only countered your claim that he is an exconvict even when the supreme court has squashed it shockingly but it's still a fact it has been squashed and we need to respect that. You assertion that I want to market Kalu is false as he will be a disaster if given presidency. He failed in Abia so why will i send a failure to the national stage? If I'm to nominate a candidate from the East it will either be Obi or Umahi or Moghalu.
The rest like OUK, Okorocha, Ngige are jokers.
But my point is it is wrong of you to refer to Kalu as exconvict despite supreme court judgement

Intrepid01:


Lol... I laugh at your trial at putting many things in to one comment. I’ll rather ignore the insults. We are not here talking about the best course of action to take about a country that is not working, that is a different discussion entirely and does not in anyway justify your initial position that led to this discussion between you and I. The discussion between you and I has to do with your trial at selling an unmarketable product like OUK.
I mean it is a dead on arrival mission, the more reason nobody is taking him seriously even in APC. If he likes let him continue to tour the length and breadth of this country between now and 2022 , he won’t even be considered for a V.P slot let alone of a Prexy candidate. Can’t you see no one in APC cares about his tours? But all of them are worried about another nigga sitting in bourdillon who is even yet to make a sentence on his 2023 ambition. Pls don’t get me wrong o, I can never root for anyone of them, they are all robbers and enemies of the masses. But even amongst them, there are senior members and junior members, OUK in the scheme of things in APC today is a small fry, truth be told!

EcoBrick:


ON SEPTEMBER 5, 2020

Igbos in the PDP are sleepwalking to 2023. I have put my ears to the ground but I have heard nothing. Tepid murmurs. Shuffling of feet. Nothing else, besides snores. Where are the Igbos in the PDP? This is not a good time to be asleep. And not another season for ‘Atikulation’.

Igbos have served the PDP faithfully. 2023 should be payback time. The PDP should stand boldly for Igbo presidency. Or be labelled a traitor, a user, an exploiter.

But I have put my ears to the ground and, I have heard nothing. Besides Atiku revving his coming and going molue. And Wike weighing Tambuwal for faithfulness. The PDP in Igbo land has been too quiet. Nobody is singing 2023 hymns in that church.

Where is the Ohaneze? The last time, they broke a taboo, and pitched their tent with the PDP.

The calculation was that if he won he would surrender to the idea that 2023 belonged to the Igbo presidency project. It’s easier now, isnt it ? They can’t be picking their noses now.

Where are those who signed the midnight MOU? This is the time to do the politicking. A bird in hand could be worth three in the bush of self-determination. That morbid infatuation with the physiognomy of the president won’t better the lives of ordinary Igbo traders in Kano or Alaba.

It won’t help the man in Ogbete market shore up his sagging sense of belonging.

The PDP has fed fat on Igbo votes. It would be treacherous for the PDP to sit astride while others initiate the campaign for Igbo presidency. Where are the Igbos in the PDP? Atiku has been left to seize the party by the scruff of the neck?

Is he still coming? What is Peter Obi waiting for? Is he waiting to be a running mate again? Mbanu! Where is Abaribe? And Osita Chidoka.

The Igbos in the PDP should find their balls, or borrow some if they have none, and speak up.

My people say if you are afraid to speak to power then cover your head with a basket, yell and run.

Let them speak, and hide if they must.

I will keep reminding them. Their silence is deafening. Their silence is ominous. We cant spend an age crying marginalization and when our turn comes we chicken away. Let’s remind them whether they hear or not.

Because our ancestors said we should greet the deaf not because they will hear us, but so that the gods can bear us witness that we bear no malice against the deaf.

Igbos in PDP, wake up! As we say it in Igbo land, this is no time for ‘sleepingmuruanya’

I hear the emperor in Port Harcourt is plotting something. He wants power to help detain power in the Northwest till 2031. That is sacrilegious. Isn’t it? What happened to the Igbo presidency project? Has he heard of it?

Why can’t he embrace Igbo presidency with some ‘workaholism’. That latter-day messiah of the South. The one who can do no wrong; the one that has the interests of the Igbo at heart. Is he going to opt for shortsightedness now? The 2023 Igbo presidency project needs flyovers! Mr Projects, this is the real project. Is he going to be a chameleon?

Why won’t the emperor support Peter Obi in 2023? He is not Igbo? The 2023 Igbo presidency project is not his business? Because he wants to occupy one small position, he is willing to negotiate away 2023 Igbo presidency?

The problem with these people is that they talk too much. So sometimes they make us overrate them. When these folks talk about Peter Obi and Okonjo Iweala, you would think they are serious. The PDP brandishes Peter Obi and Okonjo Iweala, like Christmas clothes. Now 2023 is the turn of the Igbos, the PDP isn’t enthusiastic about fielding them.

Why?

Why can’t the PDP reciprocate the love Igbos have shown it and field Peter Obi? Or present Okonjo Iweala. No, they won’t. The PDP thinks that fielding an Igbo man will be a political mistake. So when would it be politically astute for the PDP to field an Igbo man?

In 2083? Yet tomorrow, the leaders of the people would fill our ears with lamentations, innuendoes and insinuations, about Hausa Fulani Hegemony.

You won’t hear from Abaribe speak about Igbo presidency, his party and 2023. Mba… you won’t. Because there is no Buhari to insult in this matter. Why can’t Abaribe summon the courage, his usual courage, and tell the PDP that 2023 is the turn of the Igbos and that it is non-negotiable?

Abaribe is the most senior elected official in the PDP. Abaribe is bold. So Abaribe should not cower when any governor says that fielding an Igbo presidential candidate in 2023 would be a mistake. By the way, why isn’t Abaribe running? Who is marginalizing him?

Imagine for a moment that it was the duty of the federal government to allocate presidential party tickets of the two main parties. Let me call their names now. Wike, Abaribe, Peter Obi and company would be on top of the voices screaming marginalization if anyone tried giving out the PDP ticket to anyone in the north in 2023.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/09/2023-igbos-in-the-pdp-are-sleepwalking/

If Dr. Ugoji Egbujo of a fool wants to run for the presidency of Nigeria, he should do so without bringing Ndigbo into political quagmire. Ndigbo will walk awaken if the issue is about the disintegration of the shithole called Nigeria.

DMerciful:
I only countered your claim that he is an exconvict even when the supreme court has squashed it shockingly but it's still a fact it has been squashed and we need to respect that. You assertion that I want to market Kalu is false as he will be a disaster if given presidency. He failed in Abia so why will i send a failure to the national stage? If I'm to nominate a candidate from the East it will either be Obi or Umahi or Moghalu.
The rest like OUK, Okorocha, Ngige are jokers.
But my point is it is wrong of you to refer to Kalu as exconvict despite supreme court judgement

No it is not wrong in a country where judgement goes to the highest bidder. We all know he purchased it leave sentiments out of it. On what basis are you supporting those candidates?

1. Peter Obi the pathological Russian liar, he’s only second to Donald Trump when it comes to lying. Even Willie Obiano came out with facts to prove that he was lying about the imaginary fund he said he left at Anambra.

2. Umahi, pls show me facts to justify your support for him.

3. Moghalu: you see the mistake we make is thinking governance is an easy thing. What experience does he have to lead a country. I laugh at people like Moghalu, Sowore and even the other motivational talker, can’t remember his name now, who thinks Governance is beans....

You see we all have to understand that we shouldn’t entrust our present and future in the hands of people who have nothing to show that they are capable. Look at what we are currently going through for allowing Buhari, I keep asking myself, if I used to call Jonathan clueless, what exactly will I call Buhari, I mean I’m short of words to qualify a misfit.