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Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by OtemAtum: 11:27am On Sep 07, 2020
If you look around you, only humans demand worship or worship something. Nothing else does. God Almighty isn't human or humanlike like Jehovah, Allah and other thousands of religious gods currently held captive in a spiritual cage. So it doesn't demand worship. The Orientation of this universe at this age is science and not religion and in science we don't worship one thing or the other, we only explore. Therefore it makes no sense to worship God Almighty(Totality of Existence) which is the creator of all religious gods, rather we are to go about exploring things in EXISTENCE forever.

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Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by Nobody: 11:44am On Sep 07, 2020
Do you believe in the illuminati?
Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by Zino990(m): 11:55am On Sep 07, 2020
We humans are spiritual beings hope you know that
Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by OtemAtum: 12:25pm On Sep 07, 2020
Zino990:
We humans are spiritual beings hope you know that

it's the exact truth. We have souls which are spiritual and it is a more reason why we don't need worship. Worshipping belongs to the fearful.
Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by OtemAtum: 12:26pm On Sep 07, 2020
Heartlessbanker:
Do you believe in the illuminati?
Illuminati is a secret society where people come together to enlighten one another. It is more of a psychophysical group than a spiritual one.

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Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by Nobody: 12:42pm On Sep 07, 2020
OtemAtum:
Illuminati is a secret society where people come together to enlighten one another. It is more of a psychophysical group than a spiritual one.
What's your view about such secret societies, inner circles, and cults?
Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by OtemAtum: 1:09pm On Sep 07, 2020
gensteejay:

What's your view about such secret societies, inner circles, and cults?

As much as I know, the major illuminati group has not caused any harm to anybody. They intentionally keep their activities secret in order to make people fear and respect them, thinking that they possess more than what they have. This is psychology(let people do the talking). Illuminati is just like any other secret society/cooperative society who help and empower their members. As much as I know, they do not tell members to go out to hurt others or kill others, but they encourage members to keep their activities secret so as to make them seem more powerful to the outside world. Concerning secret cults in Nigeria especially those who go about disrupting and disorganising societal and academic organisations, causing chaos and rendering people homeless, fatherless and childless, I abjectly frown at it. It is hurting humanity and it has to stop. The pioneers didn't mean it for such, but it has been hijacked by riffraffs all over the nation, same way many religions of today which even started peacefully were being hijacked by riffraffs. Many of our ancestors who began the traditional religion didn't do it with Bloodshedding, but what do we have today? As it passed through many generations, it has been turned to something sane minds wouldn't even want to identify with.

Note: In a hundred years from now, if illuminati members of those generations suddenly become 'vampire' and unruly, it doesn't invalidate my claims today. Rather it is a case of something harmless turned harmful with time. This is a more reason why I try to keep my distance and resist all forms of association-forming around the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY I am compiling, or else some people will religionise it and do evil in the name of the harmless history book. I have received about 10 messages on my mail asking for the ebook in respect of building a temple and using the innocent history book as the 'Holy Book' but I either declined responding to such messages or telling those involved pointblank that I am not a maker of religion, but only a compiler of histories.

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Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by Nobody: 1:15pm On Sep 07, 2020
OtemAtum:

This is a more reason why I try to keep my distance and resist all forms of association-forming around the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY I am compiling, or else some people will religionise it and do evil in the name of the harmless history book. I have received about 10 messages on my mail asking for the ebook in respect of building a temple and using the innocent history book as the 'Holy Book' but I either declined responding to such messages or telling those involved pointblank that I am not a maker of religion, but only a compiler of histories.
Apt.
Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by Dtruthspeaker: 2:11pm On Sep 07, 2020
OtemAtum:
If you look around you, only humans demand worship or worship something. Nothing else does. God Almighty isn't human or humanlike like Jehovah, Allah and other thousands of religious gods currently held captive in a spiritual cage. So it doesn't demand worship. The Orientation of this universe at this age is science and not religion and in science we don't worship one thing or the other, we only explore. Therefore it makes no sense to worship God Almighty(Totality of Existence) which is the creator of all religious gods, rather we are to go about exploring things in EXISTENCE forever.

grin kai people foolish oh! So, because the numbers of the foolish increaseth therefore, the company of the foolish should increase.

Oh man, be thou not foolish, for the abundance of the cockroaches will not prevent its death by insecticide.

It is wise to fear what can destroy you!

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Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by OtemAtum: 2:15pm On Sep 07, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


grin kai people foolish oh! So, because the abundance of the foolish increaseth therefore, the company of the foolish should increase.

Oh man, be thou not foolish, for the abundance of the cockroaches will not prevent its death by insecticide.

It is wise to fear what can destroy you!

You have not made any point yet

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Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by Dtruthspeaker: 2:19pm On Sep 07, 2020
OtemAtum:


You have not made any point yet

grin
Wisdom is far from the Dead!

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Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by OtemAtum: 2:37pm On Sep 07, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


grin
Wisdom is far from the Dead!
Still doesn't make sense.

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Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by Dtruthspeaker: 2:52pm On Sep 07, 2020
OtemAtum:
Still doesn't make sense.

grin The way of a fool is right in his own eyes. He says, just before he is consumed, " I thought it was good at the time".

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Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by Zino990(m): 3:03pm On Sep 07, 2020
OtemAtum:
it's the exact truth. We have souls which are spiritual and it is a more reason why we don't need worship. Worshipping belongs to the fearful.
If most people can generate that energy inward....
It will vitalize them and it will start pouring outside
Making you a better person
I wish people knew this
But there is a supreme begin tho
For you to connect first work from the inside

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Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by OtemAtum: 3:48pm On Sep 07, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


grin The way of a fool is right in his own eyes. He says, just before he is consumed, " I thought it was good at the time".
That's exactly the issue we have with religious people. They foolishly follow the religious way and end of being made into sheep. Just too gullible folks. undecided
Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by Simisola3: 6:53pm On Sep 07, 2020
I do get your point. But if you say humans demand worship or worship something or someone else, why do you then say that we only explore? We could effortlessly do both.

Anyway, I see nothing wrong with worshiping while you know who and why you are worshiping.
Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by OtemAtum: 10:59pm On Sep 07, 2020
Simisola3:
I do get your point. But if you say humans demand worship or worship something or someone else, why do you then say that we only explore? We could effortlessly do both.

Anyway, I see nothing wrong with worshiping while you know who and why you are worshiping.
Worshipping is a distraction and the major causes of fightings and violence all over the world. When one person worships Jehovah, another worships Allah, another worships Vishnu, yet another worships Ahura Mazda, then they all start hating on each other and then they start killing people anyone for blasphemy and other stuffs that do not make any sense at all. Worshipping a god is just a great distraction on earth. It also creates noise and disturbs the environment.

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Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by Simisola3: 3:31am On Sep 08, 2020
OtemAtum:
Worshipping is a distraction and the major causes of fightings and violence all over the world. When one person worships Jehovah, another worships Allah, another worships Vishnu, yet another worships Ahura Mazda, then they all start hating on each other and then they start killing people anyone for blasphemy and other stuffs that do not make any sense at all. Worshipping a god is just a great distraction on earth. It also creates noise and disturbs the environment.

It's true that some people are blinded by their beliefs. That's because those people are intolerant of other people's beliefs. That was a major issue back in the day, and I don't know if it is a major issue now.

That doesn't mean worshiping is a distraction. Worship could mean respect or honor with a lot of people and those are basic human values. And it does not have to be to a god. It could be famous or influential people that have changed your life positively. It could be your best friend, your parents, and even your teacher. If some people did worship a god, we are in no way to say that they are wrong and gullible without even knowing their reasons. Why they worship could be beyond your expectations and stem from their own reality.

In where I live, we learn to respect other beliefs that are different from our own so that no unnecessary wars start.

Although I see where you are coming from, generalizations could sometimes push us from the bigger picture. Science is a very important subject for us, so everyone should utilize it. But that does not throw out our beliefs that come from our individual experiences. It is said that belief should have no place in science. However, I believe that the interest in science starts with belief. Then, we study science to make the belief become a reality. This process would take in realities of multiple people to reach a common truth. And what might happen is that we reach something that we never expect to find, perhaps a scientific breakthrough.

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Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by Dtruthspeaker: 6:53am On Sep 08, 2020
OtemAtum:
That's exactly the issue we have with religious people. They foolishly follow the religious way and end of being made into sheep. Just too gullible folks. undecided

If every person was wise then there would not be foolish people who do foolish things.

A good thing you said "They foolishly follow the religious way" meaning, The way is good but they that follow it, do not walk well or properly or wisely.

Consequently, among these, there are those who walk wisely and there are those who walk foolishly.

And each side is independent of each other and not having the same end.

Thus, everyone is entitled to choose which way he shall go, whether to good or to evil; to death or to life, shall he choose.

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Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by Dtruthspeaker: 7:01am On Sep 08, 2020
OtemAtum:
Worshipping is a distraction and the major causes of fightings and violence all over the world. When one person worships Jehovah, another worships Allah, another worships Vishnu, yet another worships Ahura Mazda, then they all start hating on each other and then they start killing people anyone for blasphemy and other stuffs that do not make any sense at all. Worshipping a god is just a great distraction on earth. It also creates noise and disturbs the environment.

Worship is not the problem But Your Love For Doing That Which Is NOT GOOD!

And he who Loves To Do That Which is NOT GOOD, Taints and Corrupts EVERYTHING, whether it is parties and celebrations, family, relationships with neighbours, work, play, prayer etc ALL Shall become destroyed with wickedness and be full of evil.

A Thing, like a piece of wood, can not do anything. It is in its place.

But when a wicked man picks it up, like the wood, he will use it for murdering where it could have been used to warmth and cooking.

Remove the wicked man and ALL THINGS (work, marriage, contracts) SHALL BE GOOD, again!
Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by OtemAtum: 8:13am On Sep 08, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


Worship is not the problem But Your Love For Doing That Which Is NOT GOOD!

And he who Loves To Do That Which is NOT GOOD, Taints and Corrupts EVERYTHING, whether it is parties and celebrations, family, relationships with neighbours, work, play, prayer etc ALL Shall become destroyed with wickedness and be full of evil.

A Thing, like a piece of wood, can not do anything. It is in its place.

But when a wicked man picks it up, like the wood, he will use it for murdering where it could have been used to warmth and cooking.

Remove the wicked man and ALL THINGS (work, marriage, contracts) SHALL BE GOOD, again!
In a case whereby you people worship a creature like yourself, what sense does it make? Jehovah, Allah, Moloch, Ahura Mazda, Vishnu, etc whom you worship are creatures of God Almighty and it only cause noise and confusion worshipping them.
Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by Dtruthspeaker: 9:56am On Sep 08, 2020
OtemAtum:
In a case whereby you people worship a creature like yourself, what sense does it make? Jehovah, Allah, Moloch, Ahura Mazda, Vishnu, etc whom you worship are creatures of God Almighty and it only cause noise and confusion worshipping them.

Now you are changing your post (CYP) as you usually do when a matter is settled and you can not rebut.

For your post is about the wisdom of worshiping God and not about My Specific Worship of My God, which is of no concern of yours at this time.

So it is settled then!
Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by OtemAtum: 10:12pm On Sep 08, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


Now you are changing your post (CYP) as you usually do when a matter is settled and you can not rebut.

For your post is about the wisdom of worshiping God and not about My Specific Worship of My God, which is of no concern of yours at this time.

So it is settled then!

What is settled? Which post did I shift?
Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by viktuur8(m): 7:50pm On Sep 27, 2020
You can't for a fact claim to know who you worshipping. You'd insist and defend it's existence but you only worship an almighty because you were taught to, inculcated in you that it was the only way to an absolute eternal happiness; a fervent deference and devotion fuelled by a supposedly feared book and the many years of indoctrination your permeable mind's been plied with
Simisola3:
I do get your point. But if you say humans demand worship or worship something or someone else, why do you then say that we only explore? We could effortlessly do both.

Anyway, I see nothing wrong with worshiping while you know who and why you are worshiping.
Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by OtemAtum: 3:42pm On May 10, 2021
viktuur8:
You can't for a fact claim to know who you worshipping. You'd insist and defend it's existence but you only worship an almighty because you were taught to, inculcated in you that it was the only way to an absolute eternal happiness; a fervent deference and devotion fuelled by a supposedly feared book and the many years of indoctrination your permeable mind's been plied with

You couldn't have said it better. They worship and fear a particular being because of propaganda heaped up in their holy books.
Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by Dtruthspeaker: 3:48pm On May 10, 2021
OtemAtum:
it's the exact truth. We have souls which are spiritual and it is a more reason why we don't need worship. Worshipping belongs to the fearful.

And it was you, the soul, who made your own soul for yourself!

Surely, you are mad!
Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by OtemAtum: 3:52pm On May 10, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


And it was you, the soul, who made your own soul for yourself!

Surely, you are mad!

I am a part of God Almighty and my soul is a part of the soul of God. My soul is indestructible.
Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by Dtruthspeaker: 3:52pm On May 10, 2021
OtemAtum:


You couldn't have said it better. They worship and fear a particular being because of propaganda heaped up in their holy books.

A man who does not fear fire and an Okada man fighting with Dangote Truck is a Fool and loveth death!
Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by Dtruthspeaker: 3:54pm On May 10, 2021
OtemAtum:

I am a part of God Almighty and my soul is a part of the soul of God. My soul is indestructible.

So is the clothes on your body and therefore you should be put in a washing machine for washing and pressed with iron.

And you are the maker of the soul to know that it is indestructible.
Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by OtemAtum: 3:54pm On May 10, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


A man who does not fear fire and an Okada man fighting with Dangote Truck is a Fool and loveth death!
This isn't in your holy book, or is it? Give me a passage from your holy book to back this up grin
Re: Why It Makes No Sense To Worship God, The Creator Of Jehovah And Allah by Dtruthspeaker: 4:00pm On May 10, 2021
OtemAtum:
This isn't in your holy book, or is it? Give me a passage from your holy book to back this up grin

"Can a man take fire in his bosom and his clothes not be burnt?

Can one go upon hot coals and his feet not be burned? Proverbs 6:27/28

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