Arrewa:
will you

Did you condemn the senseless killing of Hausa settlers by Igbos??

You're all hypocrites... Innocent people were killed in Rivers you didn't Condemn the killings.

Show us here when the members of the IPOB killed Hausa settlers. Where and when did that happen? Post the news here.

Which innocent people were killed in Rivers?

Can you swear that you'll die of a motor accident if you're lying about the IPOB killing Hausa settlers?

Arrewa:
will you shut up!!

Kettle calling pot black!

Did you condemn the senseless killing of Hausa settlers by Igbos??

You're all hypocrites... Innocent people were killed in Rivers you didn't Condemn the killings.

You are here Condemning the killing of someone that was sentenced to death... While down in your region you are busy killing armless Hausa settlers!

I am beginning to understand that Nigeria is filled with brainless hypocrites.

People who only condemn evil when it suit their narratives

Interesting how quick you are to include IPOB in your post.

Nigeria Police Force has denied they were involved.

You are the kind of people who have issues with anything, then attribute it to IPOB.

Can you condemn the sentencing of a Muslim man to death because of what he said?
I guess, no.

By the way, your post is hypocritical.

The mumu did not see Kadaria Ahmed's response that she was not behind the post but Ahmad Bashir?

Samunique:
Twitter users called her out for not criticizing Muslim authorities who sentenced 22-year-old Kano singer, Yahaya Aminu-Sharif to death for blasphemy, only to find her voice when a Pastor did something she considers wrong.

This is why they are called hypocrites !

Always beholding the beam in others eye while theirs is covered with weeds.

That's what you get from the people of pieceful religion !!!

she is actually a christian.

dokie:


I don't agree with, you.

At a time when the fakes and those who have called themselves to ministry are more than those under anointing for ministry, I doubt if Christ would visit anyone with a curse for insulting a supposed man of God who crosses boundaries.

How do we ascertain that Ibiyome is under the call of God? Because he has a large congregation? The Bible tells us that by their fruits you shall know them. What that man did on his pulpit was satanic.

You can't blame anyone for insulting him, and God won't. At most, the man who insults would bear the consequence for insulting people and not a special reprimand for insulting a supposed Man of God.

I will respond to you because I feel you are a Bible believer.

Spiritual matters don't work like that.

Moses married a foreigner, Aaron and Mariam the siblings of Moses heard from God too and they were also serving God, both Aaron and Mariam were also senior to Moses. So, based on physical assessment, it was okay for them to criticise and speak against moses. But No, God wouldn't take that! He asked them "... Were you not afraid to speak to my servant Moses so?.."

King David was another man who understood divine order too.. He was anointed just as Saul was anointed, yet he recognised that God would still have him punished if he harmed Saul.

So, you don't begin to condemn these people, whether you believe they are called by God or not. However, you can counsel people not to do or say certain things. For instance, don't call your neighbour "bastard, fool etc.".

Cheers.

Why are Nigerians so ignorant and full of hate for one another. Kadaria Ahmed is a Christian convert! This means she is no longer a Muslim. She reverted to her father's surname when she divorced her Yoruba husband. She has always criticised the killings happening all over the Northern part of Nigeria (especially Zamfara and Kaduna)!.

Arrewa:
will you shut up!!

Kettle calling pot black!

Did you condemn the senseless killing of Hausa settlers by Igbos??

You're all hypocrites... Innocent people were killed in Rivers you didn't Condemn the killings.

You are here Condemning the killing of someone that was sentenced to death... While down in your region you are busy killing armless Hausa settlers!

I am beginning to understand that Nigeria is filled with brainless hypocrites.

People who only condemn evil when it suit their narratives

Keep on praising the satanic customary law (sharia law) functioning in some primitive northern states that was implemented for the sole purpose of shedding blood, and upholding the cult group called Islam.

hmmmm

I wonder why all this hullabaloos are raise by non Muslims, they should mode their business, Islam is not a child play religion.

Sheriman:
God make this end not a sorrowful one

God forbid it i sold fones and Laptop so dnt b scared u can as well come to Lagos and get it by urself chat mi up zero eight one six zero four eight five two zero five

gambia:


Your brain needs over hauling.

I'm shocked at the guy's word and mentality. Is this what Islam is about?

edoairways:

She is an hypocrite

Judging from the law in both books, she is not an hypocris. if she has go against the inhuman law of the koran which she worship and probably may have preached sometimes, then she is an hypocrit of the koran, but human and forgiving. On a neutral ground she is an hypocrite, on religious ground she is not an hypocrite.

muykem:
Killing because of religion is normal in Islam that's why bokoharam and other terrorists still have sympathizers. My Muslim friend once told me that we can't totally condemn terrorism because they are protecting Islam against westerners.

What a mentality

@Righteousness89 in as much as i hold you in very high regards, what pastor David Ibiyeomie said/uttered from his calvity is totally wrong, he has codemed all of us who are working deligently for our daily pay/survival not only daddy freeze, be it who you may be, every professions are very important to all human survival/endeavours of our lives, be you a mechanic, bricklayer, carpenter, radionic, electrician, technician, technologist, pharmacist, medical doctor, lawyer, journalist, labourer, artizans, artist, nurses, so on and so forth, Pastors and Politicians are never proffessions, but they are there to serve the people and make straight the pact of our God and Lord by doing all that is right in the sight of God, but in this part of our world reverse is the case so let's thread with cautions to be mindful of our utterances and behaviors, pastor David ibiyeomie really needs to apologize for his very wrong sayings against all the less preveledge, every assumed less proffessions and races(half cast) that he has directly insulted.

Righteousness89:
Many people will Rope themselves into what they can't understand Because of this Matter..

My Advice and Admonishment to all is that Leave the Person of the Pastor. You Can Condemn the action or the words he used but do not Condemn the Man of God..

Insulting or Cursing the Pastor is acquiring a Curse on yourself. Leave the Person of the Pastor. Insulting a Man Under the Call of God is Insulting God Almighty..

Condemn the Words he uttered! Don't Insult the Pastor!!

They that Have Ears to Hear and Understand should Do so

Righteousness89:
Many people will Rope themselves into what they can't understand Because of this Matter..

My Advice and Admonishment to all is that Leave the Person of the Pastor. You Can Condemn the action or the words he used but do not Condemn the Man of God..

Insulting or Cursing the Pastor is acquiring a Curse on yourself. Leave the Person of the Pastor. Insulting a Man Under the Call of God is Insulting God Almighty..

Condemn the Words he uttered! Don't Insult the Pastor!!

They that Have Ears to Hear and Understand should Do so

I wish Nairaland has the Thumbs up emoji.

This your comment is spot on.

Most people react forgetting that pastors are normal people and are still prone to regular miscalculations that people make. It's even wiser to leave any of their mistakes for God to decide than even comment.

.... my pastor has this cliche, "the matter is too high for you". matters about pastors and other men of God are too high for church members (Christians), not to now talk of unbelievers, choking mouth in matters that happens in Kingdom for which they are not part....


It is well

Arrewa:
will you shut up!!

Kettle calling pot black!

Did you condemn the senseless killing of Hausa settlers by Igbos??

You're all hypocrites... Innocent people were killed in Rivers you didn't Condemn the killings.

You are here Condemning the killing of someone that was sentenced to death... While down in your region you are busy killing armless Hausa settlers!

I am beginning to understand that Nigeria is filled with brainless hypocrites.

People who only condemn evil when it suit their narratives

Can you pls tell me your painmment here ?

It's obvious you are very pained ?

Righteousness89:


My Brother Maybe you Didn't Understand my Summation...

I Didn't say he did good..

I Said Condemn what He said..
Don't Insult His Calling!
You Did not call Him..

When You insult the Calling of a Man of God, it's not Him you are Insulting! You Insulting the one Who Called Him..

Many have acquired Curses with that! Do not Join dem

Shut up.

What curses?

The man is a mad man

I agree with kadiria
We are on the same lane.

Etfash:



I will respond to you because I feel you are a Bible believer.

Spiritual matters don't work like that.

Moses married a foreigner, Aaron and Mariam the siblings of Moses heard from God too and they were also serving God, both Aaron and Mariam were also senior to Moses. So, based on physical assessment, it was okay for them to criticise and speak against moses. But No, God wouldn't take that! He asked them "... Were you not afraid to speak to my servant Moses so?.."

King David was another man who understood divine order too.. He was anointed just as Saul was anointed, yet he recognised that God would still have him punished if he harmed Saul.

So, you don't begin to condemn these people, whether you believe they are called by God or not. However, you can counsel people not to do or say certain things. For instance, don't call your neighbour "bastard, fool etc.".

Cheers.

My Brother, you see the passages you quoted are all under the old covenant, but we are now in the new covenant. Let me remind you how the new covenant came to be " Christ became a curse in our place to redeem us from the curse e of the law". Gal 3: 13.

The man who became a curse for all men will curse no one anymore. A man who rejects Christ is under a curse by his own making, he needs not to be cursed anymore. So his insulting a man of God cannot attract a greater curse than that which his rejection of Christ has brought upon him already. And he who is in Christ can not be cursed by anyone not to talk of Christ himself cursing his own disciple because he falters (in this case, insults a man of God).

That is not to say that people should go about insulting Christian leaders, but anyone saying that insulting a christian leader would bring down the curse of God is not properly rooted in New Testament Theology.

Read Matthew 10:25, and tell me what you deduce from it. Being insulted or criticized should be the least problem of a Christian. And it doesnt bother the Lord that He or His disciples are insulted. Consequently, he is not going to curse the "insulter". Christ himself was insulted from the beginning of his ministry until his death; He has been insulted by all generations since his death till this day, and will be insulted till the end of time, when he shall come in glory. What has been his response " Forgive them for they know not what they do". This is differential between Christianity and every other religion on earth.

It is a lack of understanding in certain aspects of the New Testament theology that will make Pastor Ibieyome speak the way he did especially when he said "I curse the day he was born". Do you know the implication of that statement? It is outrightly condemning the man to eternal damnation. That is not Christian. The Christian is called to save souls and not to condemn.

Let us rest this matter.

muykem:
Killing because of religion is normal in Islam that's why bokoharam and other terrorists still have sympathizers. My Muslim friend once told me that we can't totally condemn terrorism because they are protecting Islam against westerners.

Some of you espouse Islamaphobic propaganda as factual as well as blatant hypocrisy.

Islam does not support terrorism, nor are all muslims terrorists; however, there are terrorists among Muslims e.g. Boko Haram (who kill other Muslims too) - just like you have terrorists among adherents of other faiths (depending on your definition of terrorism).

Even though the Pope had condemn the linking of Islam with violence; unfortunately many of you Christians continue to spread this malicious propaganda unheeded.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/08/01/488223541/pope-francis-say-it-is-wrong-to-identify-islam-with-violence

When it comes to killing in the name of religion some of you seem to have forgotten the crusades and your own Bible e.g.:

Jesus said "bring those who do not believe me here and slay them b4 me"!(luke 19:27)
Jesus preached "Death to the infidels!" (Deuteronomy 13.5,9)
Jesus said to the masses, "Convert or die!" (John 15:6)
Jesus was the taker of life (Judges 11.29, 39)
Jesus disciples killed for the faith (Judges 15.16)

These are just a few; not to mention many more examples from the Old Testament.

@TOPIC:

Why should she, when the two situations are not the same?

She was right to criticise the pastor for refusing to live up to the teachings of his faith (i.e. turning the other cheek) whereas she cannot be expected to condemn Sharia law which is consistent with her own faith as a Muslim.

2by40ft:
Don't be surprised if she's just like any other Nigerian.
Condemned corruption when he's not d one doing it.
Condemned good he doesn't understands and Support evil he committed

I read somewhere that Kadaria converted to Christianity and was labelled an apostate worthy of death. That being so, drawing unnecessary attention to herself by antagonizing those who want her dead is not wisdom.

No one can speak out against all the ills and bad things in the world. It would be a thankless and full time job for generations on end. As long as someone doesnt lie and speaks out against any bad issue, we shouldn't try to belittle what they say by saying there are other issues unmentioned. You too should speak out against those. Simple.

Wiseandtrue:

Nice response and tackling

Christians are not only peaceful but tolerant

Na only bastard the pastor talk ooooo everybody don find their voice

But someone is sentenced to death for also expressing himself, their mouth no fit talk, e go on leave

Hypocrisy kee una for dia

Good point. But do not wish death upon any man. For it is written, "love your enemies and bless those who curse you and pray for those who despitefully use you." LUKE 6 :28
You'll do well to receive Jesus into your life. Tomorrow may be too late. John 3 :16

Thanks Brother correction/advise well taken. You are very much welcome.

Righteousness89:


My Brother Maybe you Didn't Understand my Summation...

I Didn't say he did good..

I Said Condemn what He said..
Don't Insult His Calling!
You Did not call Him..

When You insult the Calling of a Man of God, it's not Him you are Insulting! You Insulting the one Who Called Him..

Many have acquired Curses with that! Do not Join dem

NaMeAboki:


Some of you espouse Islamaphobic propaganda as factual as well as blatant hypocrisy.

Islam does not support terrorism, nor are all muslims terrorists; however, there are terrorists among Muslims e.g. Boko Haram (who kill other Muslims too) - just like you have terrorists among adherents of other faiths (depending on your definition of terrorism).

Even though the Pope had condemn the linking of Islam with violence; unfortunately many of you Christians continue to spread this malicious propaganda unheeded.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/08/01/488223541/pope-francis-say-it-is-wrong-to-identify-islam-with-violence

When it comes to killing in the name of religion some of you seem to have forgotten the crusades and your own Bible e.g.:

Jesus said "bring those who do not believe me here and slay them b4 me"!(luke 19:27)
Jesus preached "Death to the infidels!" (Deuteronomy 13.5,9)
Jesus said to the masses, "Convert or die!" (John 15:6)
Jesus was the taker of life (Judges 11.29, 39)
Jesus disciples killed for the faith (Judges 15.16)

These are just a few; not to mention many more examples from the Old Testament.

@TOPIC:

Why should she, when the two situations are not the same?

She was right to criticise the pastor for refusing to live up to the teachings of his faith (i.e. turning the other cheek) whereas she cannot be expected to condemn Sharia law which is consistent with her own faith as a Muslim.

Your level of ignorance is alarming. Do you think I am lying on what my Muslim friend told me? Jesus had not been born when they wrote many verses of bible you quoted above. Jesus said in deuteronomy haba.

Wiseandtrue:

Nice response and tackling

Christians are not only peaceful but tolerant

Na only bastard the pastor talk ooooo everybody don find their voice

But someone is sentenced to death for also expressing himself, their mouth no fit talk, e go on leave

Hypocrisy kee una for dia

Their religeon is not for peace but for murder. The world knows that and the reason why Trump don't want them.