KNOWMORE56:
THEY ARE DIFFERENT; Examples:
1. Matthew 3:16-17 "...lo, the heavens were opened unto him (Jesus), and he saw the Spirit of God descending... And a voice from heaven, saying, this is my beloved son..."
NOTE: this is were 3 of Them take action at the same time/moment
2. John 17:1"... Father, the hour is come; glorify thy son,..."
NOTE: God the Son is talking to God the Father
3. Matthew 28:19 "... baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost"
NOTE: the 3 of Them are involved in our redemption/salvation
4. Genesis 1:26 "And God said let US make man in our image, after our likeness,..."
NOTE: the use of US here means it's more than one Personality.
And many other places that you can see the differences.
5. Concerning the Holy Spirit, this is what the Bible says; 2corinthians 3:17 "Now the Lord is that Spirit..."

more wisdom.

Csonice1:


more wisdom.

Thanks brother.

I read one of your post that helped me in bolding my text/post. It used to be difficult for me.

And I will appreciate if you can send me how to colour text/posts.

Stay blessed!

sonmvayina:
The Sonmvayina - Perspectives
FACT: Christians are taught to shut off logic and have faith not in God, but in their Church fathers only which leaves them us on a path to hell!

Close-minded people will never grow!!

That's because they believe they have a monopoly on the truth.

which is very strange, especially in the black community!

We have a church on every other corner next to a liquor store by the way, and yet the condition of our people with this many churches does not change for the better

It's because we refuse to listen to Black Jesus and obey the laws and statutes of Moses folks!!!

Instead we listen to White Roman Paul who says,

white jesus freed us from the laws of God say what!!??

Therefore we do not have to listen to God any longer why It's because they have told us Yahweh the most high has retired and gone fishing therefore he has given all power unto white Jesus who has undone based on the Greeks rewriting of the Bible every single thing that God wanted!

For example,

God says do not drink blood in any fashion realistic or even symbolic rituals whyyyte Jesus says I'm going to do one better not only will you drink blood but you going to drink my blood instead and you're going to do symbolic cannibalism to and eat my flesh.

Yahweh says keep the Sabbath holy which is on a Saturday, whyyyte Jesus says for us to forget the Saturday Sabbath day let's take one of the pagan Sabbath and make it on Sunday!? not to celebrate the most high but to celebrate me whyyyte jesus instead Yahweh God says there's a dietary restriction and dietary laws that we must obey!

So what does whyyyte jesus do he tells the Christians that it's not what goes into your body that defiles a man is what comes out so therefore whyyyte Jesus and whyyyte Paul says let no one judge you in holy days or in what you should eat
and yet,,

with all of these contradictions of the Most High, Christians will never say,
wait a minute Why does this new God created in a man's image contradict the most high who by the way, black Jesus told us we must worship as a singular God in spirit and in truth

Notice how idiotic and subtly they make Jesus say things against God? Which we know he never said but Christians will never question these things in realize that anyone can rewrite the gospels which keeps Greece and Rome pagan nations in power over God's chosen elect and all other nations that the Jews were supposed to be at light to teach about the Most High!!!!

Wake up folks!!! Jesus says hear o Israel our God, meaning, his God too, is "one" God not a trinity folks!!!! The Sonmvayina perspective

Jesus says "If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it."

Ask Him to forgive you your sins.
And He will do it for you .

KNOWMORE56:



Jesus says "If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it."

Ask Him to forgive you your sins.
And He will do it for you .

That is exactely my point.. Somebody said he said... Bla Bla Bla.. The gospels are not eye witness account.. They are written in the third person... Decades after the events they are describing... All of what they said he said are all against God's laws in the old testament.. God says "do not have any other God before me".. No intermediary no mediator... Come to me directly but somebody wrote that Jesus said what you quoted...

Understand it, it is not rocket science..

sonmvayina:


That is exactely my point.. Somebody said he said... Bla Bla Bla.. The gospels are not eye witness account.. They are written in the third person... Decades after the events they are describing... All of what they said he said are all against God's laws in the old testament.. God says "do not have any other God before me".. No intermediary no mediator... Come to me directly but somebody wrote that Jesus said what you quoted...

Understand it, it is not rocket science..

But He has salved me, and He can save you an He will save you if only you believe.

KNOWMORE56:


But He has salved me, and He can save you an He will save you if only you believe.

Saved you from what exactely?.. Who sent him?. You are still not getting it.. Everything the writers attributed to Jesus are all against God's laws.. It can't be of God..

It is nothing but rebranded paganism. The Romans and Greek added it at the end of the jewish scriptures to deceive people.. Who can't understand or think for them selves..

sonmvayina:


Saved you from what exactely?.. Who sent him?. You are still not getting it.. Everything the writers attributed to Jesus are all against God's laws.. It can't be of God..

It is nothing but rebranded paganism. The Romans and Greek added it at the end of the jewish scriptures to deceive people.. Who can't understand or think for them selves..

Who is this God you are referring to and which law of His are you talking about?

Moreover Jesus saves me from sin and its consequences,

*. Romans 5:9 "KJV:Much more then, being now justified by HIS BLOOD, we shall be SAVED FROM WRATH through him."

Note:
HIS BLOOD SAVED FROM WRATH...

sonmvayina:


Saved you from what exactely?.. Who sent him?. You are still not getting it.. Everything the writers attributed to Jesus are all against God's laws.. It can't be of God..

It is nothing but rebranded paganism. The Romans and Greek added it at the end of the jewish scriptures to deceive people.. Who can't understand or think for them selves..

Do you have problems with the mathematical law that says 1×1×1=1?

KNOWMORE56:


Do you have problems with the mathematical law that says 1×1×1=1?

LOL.. So is that how you convince yourself..?.. Read the whole of Isaiah 45..then come back, then we can talk..

KNOWMORE56:



Who is this God you are referring to and which law of His are you talking about?

Moreover Jesus saves me from sin and its consequences,

*. Romans 5:9 "KJV:Much more then, being now justified by HIS BLOOD, we shall be SAVED FROM WRATH through him."

Note:
HIS BLOOD SAVED FROM WRATH...

Read Isaiah 45..yoi will know the God I am talking about.. There was never a time he asked for the blood of a human being before he will save anybody.. So which God are you talking about..

KNOWMORE56:

But He has salved me, and He can save you an He will save you if only you believe.

Walahi Talahi jokes plenty plenty for TRINITY!

Your god saved you because some people say so, then it can also save others who doesn't see any reason to trust (believe) in it!

Jehovah's Witnesses, may God continue to bless you guys for locating me with words of truth that has substance worth considering as God's word! Hebrew 4:12

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LOL.. So is that how you convince yourself..?.. Read the whole of Isaiah 45..then come back, then we can talk.. [/quote

If you have chosen the book of prophet Isaiah, then let's start from chapter 1 to the end of the book and understand what he is saying.

Maximus69:


Walahi Talahi jokes plenty plenty for TRINITY!

Your god saved you because some people say so, then it can also save others who doesn't see any reason to trust (believe) in it!

Jehovah's Witnesses, may God continue to bless you guys for locating me with words of truth that has substance worth considering as God's word! Hebrew 4:12

The post you quoted does not have '
Your god saved you because some people say'

You will read the Bible and add strange interpretation; the same thing you do to people's comments

I said He saved me, because I know He have saved me.

What in that post that connotes/denotes '...because some people say'

Come out of watchtower, you won't hear!

[quote author=KNOWMORE56 post=93675568][/quote]

I am ready..

KNOWMORE56:


Do you have problems with the mathematical law that says 1×1×1=1?

See what scholars are saying..

KNOWMORE56:

The post you quoted does not have '
Your god saved you because some people say'
You will read the Bible and add strange interpretation; the same thing you do to people's comments
I said He saved me, because I know He have saved me.
What in that post that connotes/denotes '...because some people say'
Come out of watchtower, you won't hear!

You said your god saved you, i'm saying that is just what you were told not what you can explain from the Bible!

The quotation i gave you says God's word is sharper than a sword having two edges and it can reach the heart. Hebrew 4:12

All these your argument with the agnostic is to prove to him that you know God better than him and that he should agree with you on what you were taught to believe.

God's word according to that Bible verse i gave you has two edges, this means if you have the true word of God your talks must reach deep down people's hearts but the result will not be the same, some will respond favourably and immediately will like to join you in pure worship {Act 2:37-38} others will also realize that you've beaten their conscience but due to so many attachments they'll shy away {Act 26:24-32} this is the result of the first side of the sword. But others will also be stabbed to the heart and due to the fact that they hate the truth they'll hate you to the point of hurting you! Act 7:54-60

Note that either way the truth of God's word reached the heart!

sonmvayina:


See what scholars are saying..

I'll discuss with you if you're prepared for mature discussion without bitter arguements, abusive speeches, insults and curses!
I believe in intellectual talks that will help us use our power of reasoning to benefit ourselves? Isaiah 1:18, 48:17-18

Maximus69:


You said your god saved you, i'm saying that is just what you were told not what you can explain from the Bible!

The quotation i gave you says God's word is sharper than a sword having two edges and it can reach the heart. Hebrew 4:12

All these your argument with the agnostic is to prove to him that you know God better than him and that he should agree with you on what you were taught to believe.

God's word according to that Bible verse i gave you has two edges, this means if you have the true word of God your talks must reach deep down people's hearts but the result will not be the same, some will respond favourably and immediately will like to join you in pure worship {Act 2:37-38} others will also realize that you've beaten their conscience but due to so many attachments they'll shy away {Act 26:24-32} this is the result of the first side of the sword. But others will also be stabbed to the heart and due to the fact that they hate the truth they'll hate you to the point of hurting you! Act 7:54-60

Note that either way the truth of God's word reached the heart!

Chill let me see how far he knows the Word.

As you, you quote the Word but explain watchtower.

sonmvayina:


I am ready..

Let's go!

*. Isaiah 1:11
"KJV:To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the Lord: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats."

In this place God has rejected the animal sacrifices.

Another place makes us to understand the reason more perfectly:

*. Hebrews 10:
1
KJV:For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

4
KJV:For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins."

Note:
the major problem between God and man is sin.

So God has to provide solution for it.

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Chill let me see how far he knows the Word.

If he truthfully knows God's word he will acknowledge the Christ, so for him to continually question the position of the Christ is a proof that he knows nothing about God's word!

As you, you quote the Word but explain watchtower.

Definitely the Watchtower Organization is on track if the words perfectly fit in to what they are practicing {1Peter 2:12} because throughout my explanation i never mention "Watchtower" so if the scriptures navigates your thoughts towards the Watchtower after my explanation, it will make sense if you interpret God's word to fit in to what you believe or agree that the scriptures is actually telling you that the Watchtower is the one and only TRUE Christian group! Matthew 7:16-18

Maximus69:


I'll discuss with you if you're prepared for mature discussion without bitter arguements, abusive speeches, insults and curses!
I believe in intellectual talks that will help us use our power of reasoning to benefit ourselves? Isaiah 1:18, 48:17-18

Is that not what I have been advocating.. Present your case.. I still maintain that Jesus is a nicean creation..

sonmvayina:


Is that not what I have been advocating.. Present your case.. I still maintain that Jesus is a nicean creation..

Let's first of all agree on terms and conditions before we embark on this journey!
Remember that you and i both have the right to choose whatever we want to believe whether true or false, then instead of insulting, abusing or cursing one another we must show deep respect for whatever each person holds so dear, we must prove that we are tolerant no matter what anyone believes since each person is entitled to his own opinion.
So let's make it a question and answer discussion, each person will raise a question and wait patiently and respectively for the other to present his case, there is no need saying "you are wrong" because each person is entitled to his own opinion.
Let other followers pick what they will learn and show if they're convinced with likes and shares!

Do you agree?

sonmvayina:


See what scholars are saying..

Good, it's interesting to see that you believe somebody's write up.

@Sonmvayina

Do you agree with this conditions for mature chatting?

Maximus69:


Let's first of all agree on terms and conditions before we embark on this journey!
Remember that you and i both have the right to choose whatever we want to believe whether true or false, then instead of insulting, abusing or cursing one another we must show deep respect for whatever each person holds so dear, we must prove that we are tolerant no matter what anyone believes since each person is entitled to his own opinion.
So let's make it a question and answer discussion, each person will raise a question and wait patiently and respectively for the other to present his case, there is no need saying "you are wrong" because each person is entitled to his own opinion.
Let other followers pick what they will learn and show if they're convinced with likes and shares!

Do you agree?

Maximus69:
@Sonmvayina

Do you agree with this conditions for mature chatting?

Yes.. I agree.

KNOWMORE56:


Good, it's interesting to see that you believe somebody's write up.

There is a group of writings called fiction.. Hope you know that too..

Maximus69:


Let's first of all agree on terms and conditions before we embark on this journey!
Remember that you and i both have the right to choose whatever we want to believe whether true or false, then instead of insulting, abusing or cursing one another we must show deep respect for whatever each person holds so dear, we must prove that we are tolerant no matter what anyone believes since each person is entitled to his own opinion.
So let's make it a question and answer discussion, each person will raise a question and wait patiently and respectively for the other to present his case, there is no need saying "you are wrong" because each person is entitled to his own opinion.
Let other followers pick what they will learn and show if they're convinced with likes and shares!

Do you agree?

Whole heartedly...

sonmvayina:


Whole heartedly...

So my first question is

do you believe in the concept of a Creator (Supreme Being)?

@ Sonmvayina!

Maximus69:

So my first question is

do you believe in the concept of a Creator (Supreme Being)?

Maximus69:
@ Sonmvayina!

Yes of course.. We igbos call him chukwu.. The yoruba calls him Eledumare..

sonmvayina:


Yes of course.. We igbos call him chukwu.. The yoruba calls him Eledumare..

So do you think this Chukwu and Eledumare is just the same person?
Does he have the sense to make his worshipers relate as one?

Maximus69:


So do you think this Chukwu and Eledumare is just the same person?
Does he have the sense to make his worshipers relate as one?

There are 1001 languages in the world, you don't expect all of them to have the same name for the creator.. Do you?