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Tankunland:
Normally I would not respond to this because try to stay of any religious or homosexual topic but I have noticed the gullibility of we Christians. We try to sound woke too much that we act like fools I'm sorry for the word. Daddy freeze has made it his life mission to abuse pastors whether they are real or not, daddy freeze that would body shame and broke shame you if you dare give a counter reason to his own words. Just go through hus Instagram page and see him brokeshaming young men, I can categorically remember daddy freeze called OYEDEPO a bald headed screechen a man that is almost 70 years old oo and no one talked about that ( God bless OYEDEPO for been so full of wisdom to have known what daddy freeze want which was his attention I guess ibiyeomie fell for that that, wisdom comes with age I guess) daddy freeze has never for once talked about the injustice we are facing as a country from our leaders, fuel and electricity was increased just a forth night ago and not a single word from daddy freeze, there have been an Carnage and an ethnic cleansing of the Christians in southern kaduna but not a word from that hypocrite but when a pastor says anything his muscles rises like a Lion ( meanwhile he is just a scared lil man , look how humble he was while reacting to the issue). It's we Christians that would still support daddy freeze when he abuse and makes mockery of our religious leaders, there is nothing you can say to me, Nigeria is always gonna be a deeply religious nation. The Muslims are laughing at us because we allow anyone trample on our religion, it's our own religion that a comedian would make a joke of speaking in tongues or of people falling under the anointing and we will all laugh foolishly while the Muslims see us as not been serious . Just 3 week's ago a man in Kano was sentence to death for a blasphemous statement and I condemn it in it's entirety but I can assure you for the next 50 years no one would dare do that again because they know the consequences. Can daddy freeze try to abuse a Muslim cleric if his head won't be on a spike? this Etinosa girl once made a joke of the Quran and she was nearly finished by the Muslims and since then she doesn't tow that part again, Christianity doesn't mean stupidity or gentility, As a Christian if you slap me I would slap you harder oo, it's only Jesus that has that patience and Mercy. Yes there should be freedom of speech but it should never be abused no matter what. anyways what do I know sef

God bless you

dukeprince50:
still not worth it, keep trying

If u mention me again..
You will suffer for 600 years and your wounds will be lick by dog

VEXT:
If u mention me again..
You will suffer for 600 years and your wounds will be lick by dog

I know u can do it but u are still not worth it, try harder

I know Bishop Oyedepo knows his Children someone should not come and be claiming son . He should show us his father too.

VEXT:
Daddy freeze have been insulting pastors and Christians for a very long time, even call Christmas a pagan practice, no body attack him... No so called Christians call him to order to mind his speech.... But when the coin was turn over, and daddy freeze got what he asked for.. That was the moment so Called Christians and Nigerians were attacking the pastors....
Daddy freeze is never a christian... You keep insulting pastors and want them to do nothing.... Don't you know those pastors have feelings also,or is it because they r pastors... Bastards!!! So because I'm a Christian or a pastor I should keep turn-in my cheek any time you slap me.. God punish una....

You are one of the Pastorprenours worshipper.....
You spend nights and days praying for your enemies to die wasting your precious times of reasoning...who told you God answers such evil prayers?
Now that you know your evil curses do not work you are coming with physical threats....
is ibiyeomie God? is he above death?

kurlz:
God bless you

you too sister

Guestlander:
Where's is the insult that made Ibiyeomie go nuts, that is the koko of the matter.

are you just getting a smart phone today? go through his page on IG naa. see insult upon insult. no be just today e start naa the matter don dey for a long time. the wan wey shock me calling someone old enough to be your father ," screeching baldhead" haba aside from the death threat da mumu freeze deserve every thing else.

uruba23:
I know Bishop Oyedepo knows his Children someone should not come and be claiming son . He should show us his father too.

Someone who doesn't know the meaning of bastard.......

Tankunland:
Normally I would not respond to this because try to stay of any religious or homosexual topic but I have noticed the gullibility of we Christians. We try to sound woke too much that we act like fools I'm sorry for the word. Daddy freeze has made it his life mission to abuse pastors whether they are real or not, daddy freeze that would body shame and broke shame you if you dare give a counter reason to his own words. Just go through hus Instagram page and see him brokeshaming young men, I can categorically remember daddy freeze called OYEDEPO a bald headed screechen a man that is almost 70 years old oo and no one talked about that ( God bless OYEDEPO for been so full of wisdom to have known what daddy freeze want which was his attention I guess ibiyeomie fell for that that, wisdom comes with age I guess) daddy freeze has never for once talked about the injustice we are facing as a country from our leaders, fuel and electricity was increased just a forth night ago and not a single word from daddy freeze, there have been an Carnage and an ethnic cleansing of the Christians in southern kaduna but not a word from that hypocrite but when a pastor says anything his muscles rises like a Lion ( meanwhile he is just a scared lil man , look how humble he was while reacting to the issue). It's we Christians that would still support daddy freeze when he abuse and makes mockery of our religious leaders, there is nothing you can say to me, Nigeria is always gonna be a deeply religious nation. The Muslims are laughing at us because we allow anyone trample on our religion, it's our own religion that a comedian would make a joke of speaking in tongues or of people falling under the anointing and we will all laugh foolishly while the Muslims see us as not been serious . Just 3 week's ago a man in Kano was sentence to death for a blasphemous statement and I condemn it in it's entirety but I can assure you for the next 50 years no one would dare do that again because they know the consequences. Can daddy freeze try to abuse a Muslim cleric if his head won't be on a spike? this Etinosa girl once made a joke of the Quran and she was nearly finished by the Muslims and since then she doesn't tow that part again, Christianity doesn't mean stupidity or gentility, As a Christian if you slap me I would slap you harder oo, it's only Jesus that has that patience and Mercy. Yes there should be freedom of speech but it should never be abused no matter what. anyways what do I know sef

I commend you for this. I just wrote exactly these things you wrote, before. I've never seen him criticize the corrupt politicians or the Islamic clerics. He always likes to make a caricature of pastors because they're gentle.

He wined and dined with Hushpuppi, yet he called pastors thieves.

He divorced his former wife. That shows that he didn't love his former wife, and by so doing, he doesn't understand the biblical quotation he made reference to. He should practise what he preaches.

He's just a hypocrite!

desiredhome:
You are one of the Pastorprenours worshipper.....
You spend nights and days praying for your enemies to die wasting your precious times of reasoning...who told you God answers such evil prayers?
Now that you know your evil curses do not work you are coming with physical threats....
is ibiyeomie God? is he above death?

Stfu.. Arne banza..i guess you will be smiling like a hegoat,when some one insults your father or mother!!!!

I thoroughly enjoyed this exposition, deposition, illumination and it's unbiased, unequivocal, non- prejudicial nature.

Daddy freeze is always to comment on churches and pastors. I have never heard commenting on bad governance and leadership, i have never seen him joining any protest like other celebrities, he did not say anything about the death sentence by sharia court on that musician. But the Pastor went to far on his reaction to the issue.

nBag:
are you just getting a smart phone today? go through his page on IG naa. see insult upon insult. no be just today e start naa the matter don dey for a long time. the wan wey shock me calling someone old enough to be your father ," screeching baldhead" haba aside from the death threat da mumu freeze deserve every thing else.

The fear of CAMA is making Pastorprenours to visit old wounds......those videos are old so why is ibiomiye referring to them now?
Fake Pastors everywhere.....

VEXT:
Stfu.. Arne banza..i guess you will be smiling like a hegoat,when some one insults your father or mother!!!!

Only fake Pastor/Pastorprenours got angry over insults...... that is what make them fake .....
They are worst than Boko Haram......

Very mature write-up.

Nice one mate

VBCampaign:
Oyedepo’s Statement, Daddy Freeze’s Errors and Ibiyeomie’s Threat

By: Deji Yesufu

David Ibiyeomie, a Pentecostal pastor in Port Harcourt, Rivers State, is the man in the eye of the storm. Ibiyeomie, in a two minute video, publicized by Sahara TV, is seen pouring venom on Daddy Freeze, an On-Air-Personality, who in recent years has gained reputation for criticizing Pastors. Ibiyeomie is quoted by Punch online as saying:

“I will never be alive and see anyone insult my father, you are not born, I will kill you, I will tear you into pieces. Insult me, I wouldn’t talk but insulting Oyedepo, I can’t be alive and you insult my father. The day Freeze insults Oyedepo, I will deal with him and arrest him. Who gave birth to you? Do you have a father? Show us his picture…”

It is obvious that Sahara TV intentionally quoted the pastor to drive home a simple point: a minister of the gospel should not be speaking like this; and they have succeeded in getting negative press to the pastor – if one were to consider the backlash that has been coming to the revered gentleman on social media since the video was published. While Ibiyeomie can come out to say that he was quoted out of context, the fact still remains that there is no context where a pastor should be found calling another man “a bastard” or condemning journalism; or exhibiting racial discrimination by calling some people “half caste”. He even went further to belittle the people of Somalia; as if they were not human beings. Ibiyeomie goofed badly and I would be returning to him before concluding this essay.

It was only when Daddy Freeze offered a response to David Ibiyeomie that the whole drama begin to take up some meaning and thus we begun to understand the context that Sahara TV denied everyone watching the video they published. A few days ago, David Oyedepo had published a tweet on his verified twitter handle that read:

“The only way to a fruitful marriage is total submission on the part of the wife. Until it is in place, every other thing she tries to do will be out of place. A woman who refuses to submit to her husband is disobeying God. As a woman, you might even be a minister of the gospel, and your husband is not; the Word of God still says to submit yourself to him. A submissive woman is precious in the sight of her husband – Ephesians 5:22.”

In short, the overall bishop of Otta was saying that if a marriage was to be fruitful, a woman must totally submit to her husband. Oyedepo referenced Ephesians 5:22 that reads: “…Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord…” Freeze said that while Oyedepo was right in his admonition to women to submit to their husband, this injunction is given without consideration to the whole picture that Ephesians 5 was teaching on the subject of submission. Freeze said, and he is right, that there was a verse 21 before you could read verse 22. Verse 21 of that passage reads: “… submitting to one another out of reverence to Christ…” He then made the point that it is after couples have learnt to submit to each other, that a man can now begin to demand submission from his wife. Freeze said that the clamor by church people for wives to submit to their husbands, without regard to the responsibility of men in their homes, as demanded by Ephesians 5, has produced many a home where men have become tyrants in their houses. Freeze was saying in essence: no man can demand for a woman to submit to him who is not living uprightly before God. Freeze is right but at the same time Freeze is wrong, and I want to spend sometimes to shed some light on his errors.

First, Daddy Freeze would need to appreciate the fact that David Oyedepo was right in his statement: a Christian woman that would allow for Christ to reign in her home and enjoy his blessing must be totally submitted to her husband. This is the teaching of the scripture. Oyedepo, in spite of his heresies on the Prosperity Gospel, knows these truths because he has some orthodoxy in him that can be traced back to some old school Christianity that our nation had once known. There is however a generation today that are trying to redefine the place of women in the home and Daddy Freeze is one of their teachers. It is true that verse 21 comes before verse 22. But any careful Bible teacher will realize that the context of verse 15 to 21 of Ephesians 5 is totally different from verse 22 to 33. Modern Bibles even help readers to realize this division. The whole of Ephesians is a letter to a group of Christians in Ephesus. Therefore, rather than Paul writing to just one person, he is writing to a collective; he is writing to the church in Ephesus. In verse 15 to 21, Paul is admoniting Christians on how they ought to relate to each other. It is in this context he then ends his admonition with “submitting one to another”. Verse 22 is the beginning of an admonition to married persons in the church. And it is here we see the woman is to submit to her husband. It is also instructive that it is the woman that he admonished first; as if to say the success of your home is dependent on your submission to your husband.

Now Freeze explains that Oyedepo overlooked the context before 22. Incidentally, Freeze does the same thing. He overlooks the context after verse 22, which states unequivocally: “…so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands” (verse 24). The command to the wife is to submit in EVERYTHING. I believe everything is the same as “total” and Oyedepo is right in saying that the Christian woman should submit to her husband in totality.

Daddy Freeze also brings up the issue of women not submitting to men because the men are adulterous, not providing for their homes and rebellious. Freeze however overlooks a certain assumption in the writer’s mind: which is that the couples he was writing to were not unbelievers but Christian men and women. This presupposes the fact that when women will choose the men they wish to marry, they ought not to make choices in the flesh. They should not marry a man because he has a job, or a car, or he is wealthy. Christian women should marry Christian men, if they are going to have peace in their homes. A man who is committing adultery is not a Christian and most of the people who manifest these traits in marriage have been doing it long before they were married. Our sisters should first ascertain the fact that they themselves are believers and they must possess discernment to marry Christian men. In cases where the mistake has been made, the woman must bear her cross; while she trusts God in prayers.

Freeze brought up a last point. He said that there was one lady on Instagram who had a large following and was very wealthy. He said when this woman’s husband realized she had potential to make money, he resigned his job and became her camera man. The two of them are today enjoying the benefit of the woman’s success and wealth. Freeze said that most Nigerian men cannot do this; that they will be standing on “submit to me” and miss such opportunities.

My response to Freeze is simply this: the Bible commands Christians to obey it and to leave consequences to God. Financial prosperity is not proof that God is in something; if not, the very errors that we are condemning in David Oyedepo, where he gives the impressions that gain is godliness, is the very error Freeze is propagating too. God commands women to submit to their husbands. God commands men to love their wives. Every one of us will face God at judgement as regarding how well we kept his commandments. Women were not asked to submit to their husbands only when the husband loves them; neither are men asked to love their wives only when they submit to them. Everyone is expected to obey God and everyone will reap the fruit of their obedience in this life and in the life to come. The chief error I locate both in Daddy Freeze and even David Oyedepo is the tendency to just call down scriptures and their commandments on people, without paying attention to whether or not the people you are speaking to are Christians. Ephesians 5 was written to Christians. If the people reading it or preaching from it are not converted people, they will wrest the scripture for their own selfish ends.

Having made the point about Daddy Freeze’s errors, it is important we examine David Ibiyeomie’s words one more time. The man has received sufficient condemnation from Nigerians and I would not want to add to his woes. Suffice to say this: less than two years ago, a freelance journalist in Ibadan, Kemi Olunloyo, published some damaging stories on Ibiyeomie. Those stories concerned something around some alleged illicit relationships he had with some female Nigerian actress. Olunloyo had been given the story by an insider in Ibiyeomie church and she foolishly published them. One day, policemen stormed Ibadan all the way from Portharcourt and arrested Madam Kemi. She was driven all night to Rivers’ State; where she was slammed in detention. She would eventually endure an almost year long legal battle with her accusers. By the time she emerged from that ordeal, she had been thoroughly dealt with. The judge acquitted her but made it clear that she was not to talk about the matter to the press. This is the threat that Ibiyeomie issued to Daddy Freeze and ladies and gentlemen, this man has the financial powers to carry it out. Some Nigerian policemen are so compromised that chicken change can be thrown at them and they will gleefully persecute anyone that their sponsors send them to.

The other veiled threat was the threat to the life of Daddy Freeze. While Ibiyeomie’s words can be regarded as grandiloquent and bombastic grandstanding, they should not also be overlooked. Words take up a life of their own and a threat can very easily be carried out. I hope that beyond crying out on social media, Daddy Freeze will report this matter to law enforcement and the police will invite the pastor for talks.

Source: https://textandpublishing.com/oyedepos-statement-daddy-freezes-errors-and-ibiyeomies-threat/

WandaNara:
Wake me up when the Daddy GOs start criticizing this evil government.

Please don't sleep on this, you may never wake.

desiredhome:
The fear of CAMA is making Pastorprenours to visit old wounds......those videos are old so why is ibiomiye referring to them now?
Fake Pastors everywhere.....

hmm Cama or karma. God cannot change
that's all I know

Tankunland:
Normally I would not respond to this because try to stay of any religious or homosexual topic but I have noticed the gullibility of we Christians. We try to sound woke too much that we act like fools I'm sorry for the word. Daddy freeze has made it his life mission to abuse pastors whether they are real or not, daddy fre throg men, I can categorically remember daddy freeze called OYEDEPO a bald headed screechen a man that is almost 70 years old oo and no one talked about that ( God bless OYEDEPO for been so full of wisdom to have known what daddy freeze want which was his attention I guess ibiyeomie fell for that that, wisdom comes with age I guess) daddy freeze has never for once talked about the injustice we are facing as a country from our leaders, fuel and electricity was increased just a forth night ago and no

God bless you greatly sir. The most trending and annoying one now is inviting comedians to come perform in the church. What a shame and absurdity!

desiredhome:
Only fake Pastor/Pastorprenours got angry over insults...... that is what make them fake .....
They are worst than Boko Haram......

They r worst than bokoharam? Only an Arne will say such... Not surprise...

Smartwave:
"This is the teaching of the scripture. Oyedepo, in spite of his heresies on the Prosperity Gospel, knows these truths because he has some orthodoxy in him that can be traced back to some old school Christianity that our nation had once known" - hmmmmmm, another insult >:

Which heresy sir. Any one in particular?

Chisaedhor:
J stands for Jesus

Never read a good piece in a long while.

desiredhome:
Someone who doesn't know the meaning of bastard.......

I don't know what happened to him calling and cursing someone on the Altar of God whatsoever happened to forgiven 74000 times.Let just say he was vex but he should please apologize to Daddy Freeze. After all Saul was the Chief persecutors of the Christian but when the Lord arrested him he was totally arrested.

i dey made to waste my time to read this rubbish? i rather go read ahawo thread

Every body wants to be a pastor without training. You people don't have specialisation in your journalism because you want to be relevant. If a pastor talks you want to criticize him.

matex97:
God bless you greatly sir. The most trending and annoying one now is inviting comedians to come perform in the church. What a shame and absurdity!

asin ehh that break's me so much. Comedians in the pulpit oo even the pastor's have their own fault as well but daddy freeze just goes on and on and on. He knows those pastor's would always be calm but watch him never talk about OYEDEPO or ibiyeomie ever again. Sometimes you have to get dirty to pass across some message

Guestlander:
What kind of pastor is issuing a death threat? Isn't Daddy Freeze justified now? What is Christ like in Ibiyeomie's outbursts?

Ibiyeomie is human, in a weak flesh like you too, the fact he's a pastor doesn't mean he's perfect, Freeze only wanted attention, he's not out to shed light like his followers think.

Well said. Best submission so far

ThothHermes:
What are the "heresies in Oyedepo's prosperity gospel"

For more on this, see this link below

5 ERRORS OF THE PROSPERITY GOSPEL

Normally, I wouldn't react to any of these exchanges as it doesn't edify anyone that is a "nepios" but I will make an exception today.


Though some things were said that could be better said, I don't think FRZ was right about his argument of bishop Oyedepo's post on twitter to begin with. read the scripture it's very clear but very easy to miss.

Ephesians 5: 15 - 21
Wise Behavior

15 So, then, be careful how you live. Do not be unwise but wise, 16 making the best use of your time[i] because the times are evil. 17 Therefore, do not be foolish, but understand what the Lord’s will is. 18 Stop getting[j] drunk with wine, which leads to wild living, but keep on being filled with the Spirit. 19 Then you will recite to one another psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs; you will sing and make music to the Lord with your hearts; 20 you will consistently give thanks to God the Father for everything in the name of our Lord Jesus, the Messiah;[k] 21 and you will submit to one another out of reverence for[l] the Messiah.[m]

Notice the italicized part is the ending of a previous discussion that has nothing to do directly with marriage.

The next verse then begins to talk about the family (Husbands and Wives)

Wives and Husbands

22 Wives, submit yourselves[n] to your husbands as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of his wife as the Messiah[o] is the head of the church. It is he who is the Savior of the body. 24 Indeed, just as the church is submissive to the Messiah,[p] so wives must be submissive[q] to their husbands in everything.

25 Husbands, love your wives as the Messiah[r] loved the church and gave himself for it, 26 so that he might make it holy by cleansing it, washing it with water and the word, 27 and might present the church to himself in all its glory, without a spot or wrinkle or anything of the kind, but holy and without fault. 28 In the same way, husbands must love their wives as they love[s] their own bodies. A man who loves his wife loves himself. 29 For no one has ever hated his own body, but he nourishes and tenderly cares for it, as the Messiah[t] does[u] the church.

The problem is that we all read the bible and we don't take note of the punctuation marks, reading without any control.

Though Pastor David could have handled the matter better, but wetin be my own, I don't have the spiritual authority to fault his actions and when FRZ comes out to tell us that God called him to be a pastor and not convener of a people, like some village association, I'd accord him the same spiritual respect and dey my lane.

Tankunland:
asin ehh that break's me so much. Comedians in the pulpit oo even the pastor's have their own fault as well but daddy freeze just goes on and on and on. He knows those pastor's would always be calm but watch him never talk about OYEDEPO or ibiyeomie ever again. Sometimes you have to get dirty to pass across some message

Exactly sir. Sometimes people mistake timidity as humility. I really love your stand for upholding and advancing the tenents of truth. How i would have love to commune with you even beyound this forum because i am always happy and energetic that we still have people acting as frontiers of the truth and not those who propagate and absorb anormaly in the church all in the name of entertainment or civilization. God bless and continually strengthen you greatly sir.

This is needless explanation from this man. Daddyfreeze is enemy of the church simple. His work is to be looking for errors in pastors preaching meanwhile he lack insight in the word of God. Why he can't preaching his own without mention other pastors? I would have been one of his fan if he do that. He can have titles like. 1. Wife don't submit to your wayward husband. 2. Paying tithes is unforgivable sin. 3. Free we receive, free we give, never paying a dime to the church among others