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ThothHermes:
You've clearly not listened to Oyedepo's prosperity message.

Take the number 5 in your article for example: Oyedepo clearly proclaims that "prosperity does not answer to prayer"
Go and listen to Oyedepo on prosperity and come point out the heresies.

Here is a wider eposition...

An African Case Study- David Oyedepo:

A leading promoter of the prosperity gospel is David O. Oyedepo. He has been a very good disciple of Oral Roberts, John Avanzini and Benson Idahosa. Combining all he has learnt from them with his own creativity, his Winners Chapel Enterprise is expanding beyond Nigeria to other parts of Africa. By his own admission he believes in “sweat-less success” and teaches his followers that “the knowledge and the practice of the truth make you a sweat- less winner. 25 His essential philosophy is that life is meant to be a smooth cruise, free of all struggles and full material wealth. “Not all winners sweat to win. Sweating is a curse. It symbolises struggles”. Oyedepo believes poverty is a curse and self-made. He uses Malachi 3:6-9 to establish this. According to him, ‘it comes largely as a result of a wilful act of disobedience to the law of abundance by the believers. 26

Are we therefore to assume that all those who live in abject poverty in various parts of Africa are reaping the rewards of their wilful disobedience? Oyedepo says God has given him the mission to eradicate it. He believes his primary call and mission is to make people rich. According to him, God gave him the covenant hammer to break all chains of poverty “I took hold of it and declared “I can never be poor!” That was not an empty confession, I knew what I was saying, and what had been delivered to me. It has never disappointed me once! Friend, it is time to begin to hunger and thirst for this same hammer to be delivered to you.” 27 He recalls how he received this call,

I remember very clearly, in 1987, I was in the United States of America, attending a meeting when the Lord said to me, “Get down home quick and make my people rich”. They were very strong, compelling and powerful words. So I abandoned everything I was doing, I cancelled all engagements, and rushed down home immediately. 28

It may not be too clear how many people Oyedepo has made rich but there is no doubt he himself has become extremely rich. Oyedepo is an Architect turned preacher. He started his Winners Chapel with Living Faith Ministries in Kaduna and then moved to Lagos where his World Mission Centre was built for at least 400 million Naira ($5million US). His first Church building accommodated at least 8,000 per session. He used to run three major services on Sundays, which attracts at least 30,000 people. Today he has built the largest church in Africa (and probably in the world ) that seats over 50,000 people at once. He has a multimillion Naira press called Dominion Publishing House. In addition to his fleet of expensive cars has a small jet, which he said he bought for the purpose of evangelism. Most of these were bought from regular tithes and offerings, which are strictly collected from his worshippers. They are made to believe that the more you give, the more God offers you in return.

Oyedepo believes in talking big about money and wealth. He has written at least 40 books and most of them are on material prosperity and good health. They include Covenant Wealth, Breaking Financial Hardship, Success Buttons, Born to Win, The Miracle Seed, Keys to Divine Health, Anointing for breakthrough and the Mystery of the Anointing Oil. Most of these encourage his followers on how to prosper materially and physically. In Breaking Financial Hardship he says,

Friend there is no place your mouth cannot take you to. When you talk mediocrity it will become your garment and you talk lack you will have it until you become lack yourself.…If you want to have a living financial experience, speak life to your finances. 29

Oyedepo has fully embraced Oral Roberts’ Seed-faith concept. Giving is investment in one’s own future. 30 He says tithing is divine insurance. “Tithing is your insurance cover against destruction in whatever form.” He assures his followers that if they do not pay their tithes, devouring rats would come on a mission of harassing them. ‘Frequent car breakdowns, losses, sickness and so on are all manifestations of the devourer.’ 31

For Oyedepo, money is the answer to all things. It is a defence against being against being arrested for preaching the gospel. He says, “some preachers in Nigeria have been arrested over and over again for preaching in some places. But, some others have gone to preach in the same place and they gave them police security. Why? One has defence, while the other hasn’t. money answers all things. That is why God has designed wealth for his people so He can establish them in dominion.” 32

Oyedepo does not hide the sources of his convictions. In his books he frequently refers to the ‘successes’ and the teachings of his heroes. Apart from Oral Robert, he mentions Kenneth Copeland who has an airstrip where his jet lands every morning and has given out three jets. John Avanzini is also his hero. There is no doubt that with his combination of positive thinking and confession, he aspires to be as wealth as His American heroes are!

Like Avanzini, Oyedepo also markets a rich Jesus. His Jesus “has so much that He needed a treasure to keep His money. He ate whatever He wanted and whenever He desired it. He has in a place that commanded envy because John’s disciples, who went to see where he lived, never returned to their Master.” 33 Beyond this, the sale of ‘olive oil’ which he believes is an anointed key to wealth and health, as well as “holy mantels” etc. are part of the ministry of the Winners Chapel.

What Oyedepo and several others like him have done is shift the focus of their followers from the true gospel. They have made the pursuit of health and wealth an end in itself and shifted from the true mission of Jesus Christ. With their marketing of the gospel as the short cut to the good things of life, it is not strange at all that their methods have mass appeal, especially in African countries with failing economies. It was in 1987 that, with the declining economy in Kenya, Winners Chapel gained ground in Nairobi. They have had similar growth in Tanzania and Uganda. Zimbabwe is not yet an open door because of its stable economy. At least until recently. With the present decline of the economy, the ground is fertile for Winners Chapel exploits.

SAUCE

ThothHermes:
What are the "heresies in Oyedepo's prosperity gospel"

He mentioned it. The heresy is him teaching that financial gain is godliness. Preaching that material wealth are result of some form of godly devotion. This is far from what the bible teaches. The bible emphasizes spiritual wealth

WandaNara:
Wake me up when the Daddy GOs start criticizing this evil government.

Why didn't you take your drug this afternoon?
Wetin concern G.O and the government here?

Daddy freze should stop talking rubbish and face his job. Abi he no get job. He should leave the pastors to do their job and face his own job.

Tankunland:
Normally I would not respond to this because try to stay of any religious or homosexual topic but I have noticed the gullibility of we Christians. We try to sound woke too much that we act like fools I'm sorry for the word. Daddy freeze has made it his life mission to abuse pastors whether they are real or not, daddy freeze that would body shame and broke shame you if you dare give a counter reason to his own words. Just go through hus Instagram page and see him brokeshaming young men, I can categorically remember daddy freeze called OYEDEPO a bald headed screechen a man that is almost 70 years old oo and no one talked about that ( God bless OYEDEPO for been so full of wisdom to have known what daddy freeze want which was his attention I guess ibiyeomie fell for that that, wisdom comes with age I guess) daddy freeze has never for once talked about the injustice we are facing as a country from our leaders, fuel and electricity was increased just a forth night ago and not a single word from daddy freeze, there have been an Carnage and an ethnic cleansing of the Christians in southern kaduna but not a word from that hypocrite but when a pastor says anything his muscles rises like a Lion ( meanwhile he is just a scared lil man , look how humble he was while reacting to the issue). It's we Christians that would still support daddy freeze when he abuse and makes mockery of our religious leaders, there is nothing you can say to me, Nigeria is always gonna be a deeply religious nation. The Muslims are laughing at us because we allow anyone trample on our religion, it's our own religion that a comedian would make a joke of speaking in tongues or of people falling under the anointing and we will all laugh foolishly while the Muslims see us as not been serious . Just 3 week's ago a man in Kano was sentence to death for a blasphemous statement and I condemn it in it's entirety but I can assure you for the next 50 years no one would dare do that again because they know the consequences. Can daddy freeze try to abuse a Muslim cleric if his head won't be on a spike? this Etinosa girl once made a joke of the Quran and she was nearly finished by the Muslims and since then she doesn't tow that part again, Christianity doesn't mean stupidity or gentility, As a Christian if you slap me I would slap you harder oo, it's only Jesus that has that patience and Mercy. Yes there should be freedom of speech but it should never be abused no matter what. If daddy freeze thinks he knows the word of God more than those men then he should open his own church and teach his own perfect word of God, can you imagine a sane Christian would wanna take marriage counsel from a daddy freeze that Is a divorcee and cohabitating with a woman that isn't his wife than a man that has been married for 52 years (Adeboye) and 36 years ( OYEDEPO) anyway what do I know sef

Oga ! If your own bible taught you to slap harder when you get slapped ,then obviously you are not a Christian , you are just a church goer and man of God worshipper, Jesus is the way ,the truth and the life , Mr Truth ( Jesus ) said turn the other cheek when they slap you , but here you are manufacturing and bible , you better be very careful .... Follow God and stop following men of god .

Apologize for what?Has freeze apologized to Papa oyedepo for insulting him and calling him bald headed,has he apologized to daddy Adeboye. Where were you when he was cussing out these men and people were laughing,Pst ibiyeomie is not going to apologize for anything,he simply gave freeze what he has been asking for.You can do your worst.

uruba23:
I don't know what happened to him calling and cursing someone on the Altar of God whatsoever happened to forgiven 74000 times.Let just say he was vex but he should please apologize to Daddy Freeze. After all Saul was the Chief persecutors of the Christian but when the Lord arrested him he was totally arrested.

Yes,he won't insult them again now,he would stay away from them,now that Pst Ibiyeomie has told him off and given him a stern warning.

Tankunland:
asin ehh that break's me so much. Comedians in the pulpit oo even the pastor's have their own fault as well but daddy freeze just goes on and on and on. He knows those pastor's would always be calm but watch him never talk about OYEDEPO or ibiyeomie ever again. Sometimes you have to get dirty to pass across some message

Pauladex:
These people will not just stop disgracing themselves, if Daddy Freeze was wrong, was there no mature way of educating him, can't Pastor Ibiyeomie organise bible teaching to address that? In our generation, people think because their successful in ministry they are infallible, whereas it was not so from beginning. Acts 17:11 says Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true. If they could crosscheck wether Paul was wrong, who is your G.O? Oh year foolish Galatians and follow follow christian

where were u or what did you say since pastor freeze have been abusing pastors and young men. but now when he got attacked by a pastor, u started vomiting rubbish. so those pastors should continue dey mumu like u. where do u see freeze dey abuse muslim clerics. he can't do that because they will deal with him.

Tankunland:
Normally I would not respond to this because try to stay of any religious or homosexual topic but I have noticed the gullibility of we Christians. We try to sound woke too much that we act like fools I'm sorry for the word. Daddy freeze has made it his life mission to abuse pastors whether they are real or not, daddy freeze that would body shame and broke shame you if you dare give a counter reason to his own words. Just go through hus Instagram page and see him brokeshaming young men, I can categorically remember daddy freeze called OYEDEPO a bald headed screechen a man that is almost 70 years old oo and no one talked about that ( God bless OYEDEPO for been so full of wisdom to have known what daddy freeze want which was his attention I guess ibiyeomie fell for that that, wisdom comes with age I guess) daddy freeze has never for once talked about the injustice we are facing as a country from our leaders, fuel and electricity was increased just a forth night ago and not a single word from daddy freeze, there have been an Carnage and an ethnic cleansing of the Christians in southern kaduna but not a word from that hypocrite but when a pastor says anything his muscles rises like a Lion ( meanwhile he is just a scared lil man , look how humble he was while reacting to the issue). It's we Christians that would still support daddy freeze when he abuse and makes mockery of our religious leaders, there is nothing you can say to me, Nigeria is always gonna be a deeply religious nation. The Muslims are laughing at us because we allow anyone trample on our religion, it's our own religion that a comedian would make a joke of speaking in tongues or of people falling under the anointing and we will all laugh foolishly while the Muslims see us as not been serious . Just 3 week's ago a man in Kano was sentence to death for a blasphemous statement and I condemn it in it's entirety but I can assure you for the next 50 years no one would dare do that again because they know the consequences. Can daddy freeze try to abuse a Muslim cleric if his head won't be on a spike? this Etinosa girl once made a joke of the Quran and she was nearly finished by the Muslims and since then she doesn't tow that part again, Christianity doesn't mean stupidity or gentility, As a Christian if you slap me I would slap you harder oo, it's only Jesus that has that patience and Mercy. Yes there should be freedom of speech but it should never be abused no matter what. If daddy freeze thinks he knows the word of God more than those men then he should open his own church and teach his own perfect word of God, can you imagine a sane Christian would wanna take marriage counsel from a daddy freeze that Is a divorcee and cohabitating with a woman that isn't his wife than a man that has been married for 52 years (Adeboye) and 36 years ( OYEDEPO) anyway what do I know sef

From bible criteria I tell u unfortunately that you are not a Christian. If you can't hope to attain Christ level of humility, devotion and tolerance, then you can't be christ-like or a Christian.
Many of these pastors are not the pastors bible describe. Bible say we should not fear them. A tree is known by its fruit.
The irony is that its Mr Ibiyeomo that is a bastard. He has shown that he does not know is father. Jesus cannot be his father because he doesn't behave like Jesus.
The shame this 'god of men' cause is to them not to God or his true children

Guestlander:
Where's is the insult that made Ibiyeomie go nuts, that is the koko of the matter.

I read all the useless comments from your insightful question to the last page, not one of them answered your question. You see, these people do not believe or know what the Bible says just what their god of men they worship dish out to them after they have been severely financially squeezed.
In fairness to Freeze, he quoted the Bible, and instead of patiently explaining it further, since you do not agree with him, knowing that there is a huge audience, they resorted to name calling, insults and threats to life. And people still believe that these charlatans know God or have anything to do with Jesus Christ that they scream every minute. Shame on them. You made a statement and quoted the Bible on a public space, someone reasoned it out differently and also quoted the Bible, if you are convinced of your calling, your place would be to explain further knowing that the wrong belief of this soul can lead him to destruction. Instead of that, because you have the same proud spirit as Satan, you resorted to insults and threats. That is evil, hate speech and condemnable. Are these the crop of humans who say they are going to heaven? Shameful, disgusting. They will be grossly disappointed.
What were the insults in the points raised by Freeze? No one is saying rather they keep heeping venoms. I am not surprised because the Bible says in the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. These scammers and blind followers have warped and devilish mind, very evil heart. Disgusting what comes out of the people who said they are going to heaven!
Freeze according to you is a lost sheep, do you help him by insulting or threatening his life? And you still call yourself a follower of Christ? Would Jesus' apostles have resorted to such mindless diatribe and threat?

jamata20:
abeg gather here if u know u didn't read that long epistle

I dey ur back

thinkmoney:
From bible criteria I tell u unfortunately that you are not a Christian. If you can't hope to attain Christ level of humility, devotion and tolerance, then you can't be christ-like or a Christian.
Many of these pastors are not the pastors bible describe. Bible say we should not fear them. A tree is known by its fruit.
The irony is that its Mr Ibiyeomo that is a bastard. He has shown that he does not know is father. Jesus cannot be his father because he doesn't behave like Jesus.
The shame this 'god of men' cause is to them not to God or his true children

My dear, there is no better way to put it. People are deceived into believing these god of men who parade as Christians are true followers of Jesus Christ, they are actually the miserable agents of Satan the Devil described by Jesus at Matthew 24:11, 24,25. See what is coming out of a man who calls himself a pastor, a man who says he has a calling from God! Shameful and reprehensible. These are wicked deceivers and their days are numbered, their judgement is not delaying, Hab 2:3. Sad, and many are following. Well that is what Jesus says about the broad way. I am hurt to my soul seeing how many are defending evil.

Good analysis but your ending was totally rubbish , you are encouraging the man to take legal action against a crime he vehemently committed
He did not insult oyedepo on the thread you mentioned above but from last year he has being occasionally attacking him , from private jet acquisition to establishment of USSD tithe and offering platform

Tomide007:
Which heresy sir. Any one in particular?

Are you asking?
I only quote from the article above.

nice write up

thinkmoney:
He mentioned it. The heresy is him teaching that financial gain is godliness. Preaching that material wealth are result of some form of godly devotion. This is far from what the bible teaches. The bible emphasizes spiritual wealth

Show me one video of Oyedepo preaching any of these things you've listed. You people should fear God o.

The scripture tells us as Christians we should not insult an instituted authority whether spiritual or political. Daddy freeze has been on an insulting spree on oyedepo for a long time. Constructive criticism is acceptable because no one is perfect be you pastor or whoever. but not attacking a person personality continuously.. There should be a limit. So if ibiyeomie lashed back at him I'd say he got served his own medicine. The country is on a verge of total collapse there are more pressing issues that needs to be addressed.

BluntTheApostle:
Prosperity theology is in itself a heresy. A very big heresy, as a matter of fact.

The very idea that Tithing and seed sowing are financial investments in a Christian's life is the greatest SCAM in world history.

The very idea that poverty is a curse through and through is nothing but a wicked and an evil scheming to part the gullible from their money.

But the Bible establishes all these na.

kikero:
Here is a wider eposition...


SAUCE

So which part of this do you disagree with?
Did you even read anything in this article

Guestlander:
What kind of pastor is issuing a death threat? Isn't Daddy Freeze justified now? What is Christ like in Ibiyeomie's outbursts?

oga if Daddy freeze is really against religion he should also attack Islam

kingsolomonjnr01:
I dey ur back

abeg manage this glass of juice

Investnow2017:
My dear, there is no better way to put it. People are deceived into believing these god of men who parade as Christians are true followers of Jesus Christ, they are actually the miserable agents of Satan the Devil described by Jesus at Matthew 24:11, 24,25. See what is coming out of a man who calls himself a pastor, a man who says he has a calling from God! Shameful and reprehensible. These are wicked deceivers and their days are numbered, their judgement is not delaying, Hab 2:3. Sad, and many are following. Well that is what Jesus says about the broad way. I am hurt to my soul seeing how many are defending evil.

Their days are numbered

ThothHermes:
What are the "heresies in Oyedepo's prosperity gospel"

Don't mind them.

When Freezing man was busy insulting Pastors nobody talked.

Abeg we need more no nonsense Pastors like Ibiyome

ThothHermes:
Show me one video of Oyedepo preaching any of these things you've listed. You people should fear God o.

Several of it are out there. All those "kingdom principles; 'you can't follow the kingdom principle and be poor...ever'"

Well-written.

VBCampaign:
Oyedepo’s Statement, Daddy Freeze’s Errors and Ibiyeomie’s Threat


1. Oyedepo, in spite of his heresies on the Prosperity Gospel, knows these truths because he has some orthodoxy in him that can be traced back to some old school Christianity that our nation had once known.

2. Financial prosperity is not proof that God is in something; if not, the very errors that we are condemning in David Oyedepo, where he gives the impressions that gain is godliness, is the very error Freeze is propagating too.

He did well explaining d chapter to those who don't read their Bibles or don't engage the Holy spirit when they do, making it look like they are reading stories.

I can't but notice his subtle way of throwing jabs as quoted above. My question is isn't the same God who is prosperous the most righteous? Are the Streets of Heaven not platted in gold anymore as recorded in scriptures? In the Kingdom, u can't be wealthy n not be righteous - this was clearly demonstrated on the cross when God had to take his eyes off his son cos he bore the sin of the world. Am I saying every wealthy "christian" is righteous? No, but a righteous God will never bless n preserve the blessings of one who isn't first righteous. There's nothing wrong with preaching prosperity. God Himself gave us different gifts/ministries. The only time preaching prosperity becomes a problem is when it's preached in isolation without salvation etc, fortunately, winners doesn't only preach prosperity but also righteousness, salvation, healing etc(It may interest you to know the theme of the month of September is Godliness is profitable to all things. 1st Tim 4vs8.)

Mr Deji shd know righteousness is never a state of sinlessness,(for all have sinned n come short of God's Glory and Our righteousness is like a filthy rag before Him. Romans 3vs23 and Isaiah 64vs6) but a crave to please God - via genuine repentance each time we err. This we do with d consciousness of not continuing in sin n expect Grace to remain.

Lastly, just last Friday 4 some odd reasons I tot of freeze, I was surprised I did n had to ask myself why? The first n only thing my spirit told me was that he was a sponsored agent. Checked online yesterday n noticed stories involving him flying up n down.

May our parts be continually guided by the Holy Spirit.

ThothHermes:
But the Bible establishes all these na.

No, the Bible did not establish Tithing as a financial investment outside the Promised Land.

The Old Covenant (the Old Testament) was tied to the Promised Land.

Now, we have a New Covenant, which is tied to the Good News, which is the Salvation that Christ offered us with his body.

DO YOU KNOW THE FUNNY THING THESE MEN OF GOD SEEM TO FORGET THEY ARE HUMAN O.......LIKE SERIOUSLY IF ONE ACTUALLY WANTED TO DEAL WITH IBIYEOMIE DO YOU REALLY THINK ITS IMPOSSIBLE LIKE SERIOUSLY WELL I BLAME NIGERIANS WHO HAVE GIVEN PASTORS POWERS OF A DEMI GOD SO THEY FEEL UNTOUCHABLE AND THE KNOW WITH MONEY IN THIS COUNTRY YOU CAN COMMIT ALL MANNER OF ACTIONS AND DECEITS AND GET AWAY WITH IT SO CARRY ON PASTOR AM IN SUPPORT OF YOU DEAL WITH WHO EVER COMES YOUR WAY YOU HAVE EARNED IT JARE

Honour2:
Apologize for what?Has freeze apologized to Papa oyedepo for insulting him and calling him bald headed,has he apologized to daddy Adeboye. Where were you when he was cussing out these men and people were laughing,Pst ibiyeomie is not going to apologize for anything,he simply gave freeze what he has been asking for.You can do your worst.

My Brother do you realize how many times we chastise Bubu when we feel things are going wrong and Bubu won't say anything yet he keeps working and travelling like Ajala as if he doesn't have his own family. As a pastor he has to learn to have unconditional love for his Children, because he is in a position of leadership.Even God doesn't judge immediately and he has asked us not to Judge others.Daddy Freeze do engage in academic exercise which is good because it helps to question the old and accept the new after all that was what gave birth to the Pentecostal movement.

Dear Deji Yesufu,
With all due respect, why are we using the thoughts of an unmarried man advising people who are married on their duties to one another as a topic of national discourse?

Very revealing

Daddy Freeze is not Kemi. No matter how much that big mouthed passtor has he can't intimidate Daddy Freeze.First of all He is European first and Nigerian second. You illegally imprison an European Citizen, the European Union will be calling Buhari and don't forget Freeze parents are not just rag wearing folks