I've seen nothing wrong in what stanliwise has said.

To OP, you should change your attitude of hating math, that is a bigger problem than simply not knowing or being good at it. Besides that, this question is one of the most popular questions from newbies, you'll find many helpful videos and advice online. Don't let anyone here discourage you into thinking you need to spend one year studying "matrix computations and optimization algorithms" before you get started in programming.

stanliwise:

Don’t mind that guy o. I understand how maths is very useful for data apps and heavy computational applications.
But OP need to just learn how to communicate with computer.
For example python is very close to English language and with so much Robust one line import library that even young people with barely advance maths skill Can work with and do stuffs. No one is talking of using Assembly, Rust or C here, or Big(O) notations. But he just wanna scare young mind coming to know programming.

Big (o) notations I don't know why but I prefer to put it under logic, but Assembly only needs basic arithmetic and you need to think logically, for example when trying to create a multi dimensional array in assembly, you need to sit down and think a lot which is even more than the calculations itself, and as for bit manipulation (logical gate and algebra) yup that is where you need maths, but it's not hard at all.

stanliwise:
For antivirus software a time comes when you need some form of maths especially for virus signature and gibberish, and you need to work with low level libraries at some point which deal with a lot of bit manipulation.
But the OP just need to learn how to create simple software and write every day code. And this nigga start mentioning bank apps and antivirus software. Haba I fear some people o

Wow thanks for the insight.

You don't really need maths to build a website like nairaland for instance, you only need logic. Maths is based on logic, but you can be logical without having very good knowledge in maths.
Most times, just good knowledge of jss algebra would suffice.

Mr.staliwise
you are not a programmer you are a coder, without codeigniter and laravel you are nothing.
you think using already made functions and classes of libraries and framework served on a platter of gold makes you a programmer. NO it doesnt.

Sulele04:
Mr.staliwise
you are not a programmer you are a coder, without codeigniter and laravel you are nothing.
you think using already made functions and classes of libraries and framework served on a platter of gold makes you a programmer. NO it doesnt.

Here comes the elitist gatekeepers .

I still dont know how somebody will say he hates maths, op is talking from a sentimental side not from a factual side.

i started programming with c++ after i got very fluent with it, i knew i needed to start learning a new one c#. But my sentimental part didnt allow me, i thought i was betraying c++ by learning c#. Today when i look back i just say to myself that was unnecessary sentiments.
maths is the easiest thing to learn on this earth, dont let the grammer or hype scare you.
If you want to be a programmer you need mathematics.

Sulele04:
Mr.staliwise
you are not a programmer you are a coder, without codeigniter and laravel you are nothing.
you think using already made functions and classes of libraries and framework served on a platter of gold makes you a programmer. NO it doesnt.

For most jobs and softwares out there today, you only need libraries and frameworks to get the job done, why reinvent the wheel?
For every one programmer writing anti virus softwares or compilers in c++ today, there are 500 or more programmers building softwares with React javascript or Django python.

Sulele04:
I still dont know how somebody will say he hates maths, op is talking from a sentimental side not from a factual side.

i started programming with c++ after i got very fluent with it, i knew i needed to start learning a new one c#. But my sentimental part didnt allow me, i thought i was betraying c++ by learning c#. Today when i look back i just say to myself that was unnecessary sentiments.
maths is the easiest thing to learn on this earth, dont let the grammer or hype scare you.
If you want to be a programmer you need mathematics.

If you want to be a programmer generally you only need logic. If you want to be be a programmer in certain programming fields, you need maths.

Daejoyoung:

For most jobs and softwares out there today, you only need libraries and frameworks to get the job done, why reinvent the wheel?
For every one programmer writing anti virus softwares or compilers in c++ today, there are 500 or more programmers building softwares with React javascript or Django python.

As for your question, why reinvent the wheel? It improves your potency as a programmer and if those libraries have a bug, no matter how you read the api libraries are like black boxes with no screws, you can't find out how they work internally unless you can read assembly which again is the feat of a seasoned programmer.

tensazangetsu20:

Here comes the elitist gatekeepers .

I swear, I've stopped looking down on people who use frameworks and the sort, they need money to eat so why push your fanatical love for computers on them.

tensazangetsu20:

Here comes the elitist gatekeepers .

I tire for them, if you ask them what they have built with their knowledge of maths compared to those using frameworks, you'll see most have no tangible real world projects to show. They forget not every one can be researchers in the field of programming, many people just wanna get some stuff up and running with javascript and PHP for the business or economic side of things.

SegFault:

I swear, I've stopped looking down on people who use frameworks and the sort, they need money to eat so why push your fanatical love for computers on them.

Yes o. Country hard and men need to eat. If you love maths and computer science you should go in for a PhD at MIT instead of abusing people looking for their daily bread.

tensazangetsu20:

Yes o. Country hard and men need to eat. If you love maths and computer science you should go in for a PhD at MIT instead of abusing people looking for their daily bread.

Abi o, this country is too hard man, that's why I went back to front end web development. CS no dey give man food for this shithole.

SegFault:

Abi o, this country is too hard man, that's why I went back to front end web development. CS no dey give man food for this shithole.

Core CS no dey give man food for anywhere. The number of C++ jobs is so minuscule compared to things like JavaScript and PHP.

You guys have scared the shit out of me and I do know that the op must be shitting his pants . For me, simple HTML dey hard me sef not to talk of assembly language. I'm really impressed with you guys.

Daejoyoung:

For most jobs and softwares out there today, you only need libraries and frameworks to get the job done, why reinvent the wheel?
For every one programmer writing anti virus softwares or compilers in c++ today, there are 500 or more programmers building softwares with React javascript or Django python.

i didnt say he should reinvent any wheel, i only said he should learn maths.

tensazangetsu20:

Core CS no dey give man food for anywhere. The number of C++ jobs is so minuscule compared to things like JavaScript and PHP.

They aren't small like that sha, it depends on what you can deliver. And besides you can gather a couple of friends start some kind of cooperative and make games, Who knows you could get somewhere one day.

SegFault:

They aren't small like that sha, it depends on what you can deliver. And besides you can gather a couple of friends start some kind of cooperative and make games, Who knows you could get somewhere one day.

The Koko is to make money first then follow passion later. Can't follow passion on an empty stomach men.

Pondabrown:
You guys have scared the shit out of me and I do know that the op must be shitting his pants . For me, simple HTML dey hard me sef not to talk of assembly language. I'm really impressed with you guys.

Forget assembly and face your basics, do you think assembly will put food on your table, me that can write ARM and Intel assembly is still living in my grandparent's house.

tensazangetsu20:

The Koko is to make money first then follow passion later. Can't follow passion on an empty stomach men.

to me honestly passion matters the most but sha man must eat first and foremost.

tensazangetsu20:

Core CS no dey give man food for anywhere. The number of C++ jobs is so minuscule compared to things like JavaScript and PHP.

this is up there with the best jokes i have read on nairaland.
you dont know what is going on i will let you wallow in your ingnorance.

Daejoyoung:

I tire for them, if you ask them what they have built with their knowledge of maths compared to those using frameworks, you'll see most have no tangible real world projects to show. They forget not every one can be researchers in the field of programming, many people just wanna get some stuff up and running with javascript and PHP for the business or economic side of things.

no tangible real world projects.
when i was in university i cant count how many countless opencv and qt projects we built not to talk of when i was out.
i am not bragging it is just fact. Now i work with a company so no time for real world projects .

SegFault:

Forget assembly and face your basics, do you think assembly will put food on your table, me that can write ARM and Intel assembly is still living in my grandparent's house.

SegFault:

As for your question, why reinvent the wheel? It improves your potency as a programmer and if those libraries have a bug, no matter how you read the api libraries are like black boxes with no screws, you can't find out how they work internally unless you can read assembly which again is the feat of a seasoned programmer.

You are right, but I still maintain it is better to get started with frameworks first, and then after that you go deeper.
Let's say I build an app using a java framework, and this serve millions of customers. If this framework have bugs and it's affecting my software or application, would it be better for me to begin to debug or rewrite this particular java framework internally or switch to better framework? which do you think is better? Except for big companies like Facebook and the likes, most companies normally switch frameworks when it doesn't serve them well.
Also don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we don't need to learn these deep mathematical stuff or assembly, but that newbies don't necessarily have to start from there.

Sulele04:

no tangible real world projects.
when i was in university i cant count how many countless opencv and qt projects we built not to talk of when i was out.
i am not bragging it is just fact. Now i work with a company so no time for real world projects .

You didn't school in Nigeria right? Cause they are only teach PASCAL and FORTRAN

Karleb:

Bros the thing vex me tire, I won start dey write articles for opera mini self make I save up buy wetin I wan buy.

Daejoyoung:

You are right, but I still maintain it is better to get started with frameworks first, and then after that you go deeper.
Let's say I build an app using a java framework, and this serve millions of customers. If this framework have bugs and it's affecting my software or application, would it be better for me to begin to debug or rewrite this particular java framework internally or switch to better framework? which do you think is better? Except for big companies like Facebook and the likes, most companies normally switch frameworks when it doesn't serve them well.
Also don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we don't need to learn these deep mathematical stuff or assembly, but that newbies don't necessarily have to start from there.

That's the issue, these frameworks and libraries always have bugs, that is how life is, yes of course, I've written lots of C and C++ code and I've hardly jammed real math na only arithmetic, logic and common Boolean arithmetic

Daejoyoung:

You are right, but I still maintain it is better to get started with frameworks first, and then after that you go deeper.
Let's say I build an app using a java framework, and this serve millions of customers. If this framework have bugs and it's affecting my software or application, would it be better for me to begin to debug or rewrite this particular java framework internally or switch to better framework? which do you think is better? Except for big companies like Facebook and the likes, most companies normally switch frameworks when it doesn't serve them well.
Also don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we don't need to learn these deep mathematical stuff or assembly, but that newbies don't necessarily have to start from there.

But sir can i start learning the basics like Html,css,Js.nodTS,php and the rest
then I will I be learning maths along with them, now let say by the time I became a full
stack web developer and ready to go into hard-core programming my maths skill is already strong.

OGWILLS123:

But sir can i start learning the basics like Html,cess,Js.nodTS,php and the rest
then I will I be learning maths along with them, now let say by the time I became a full
stack web developer and ready to go into hard-core programming my maths skill is already strong.

Of course sir.

Daejoyoung:

Of course sir.

But will JavaScript, php, react and Angular required maths.

tensazangetsu20:

The Koko is to make money first then follow passion later. Can't follow passion on an empty stomach men.

Lwmd