willybaby:
please sir don't say what you don't know, how does hausa bind Benue, kogi to the North. Rivers State far south has more Muslims, mosque more hausa speakers compared to Benue.. Benue is central Nigeria not North

Rivers state?


maybe someone from Rivers state will answer u not me.



Benue is north central and unongo is a member of Arewa.

Bkayyy:

You witnessed ordinary school association and you are throwing insults in what is supposed to be a civilized discussion. Don't carry this your mentality to kwara because you will be shocked. Kwara yorubas respect their islamic religion above anything else and they have undiluted loyalty to their emir who claims allegiance to the caliphate. Kwara is not all about yoruba anyway, they have indigenous Nupe and settled fulani

Go and sleep oga

J111333:
I've bookmarked this your comment for future reference.
Very soon, the same yorubas in this forum will attack some Igbo speaking folks in Rivers, Delta and Akwaibom states for wanting to be regarded as Igbos.

Its not just about Language alone, it has to do with Culture and way of Life.
I have never seen one Calabar or Akwa Ibom person or even Ogonni person ever claim they want to become an Ibo person!
Even a mad one cannot wish that for his enemy.

If you marry Ibo wife and you want to go and live under your inlaws in Alaigbo, that is an understandable problem of yours

Lari03r:
This is great!

I'm sure people don't know that Ebira people of Kogi are also related to Yoruba, though not as close as Okun.

They bear Yoruba names like Ojo, Bose, Aina.

Their language has some Yoruba influence.

Well, we respect the sanctity of human lives in Yoruba land, so our Okun brothers should be re-integrated.

I had an argument on Twitter last year when one guy said Niger State was bigger than the whole SW.

I told him, political SW is different from the geographical SW which includes Kwara state and parts of Kogi state.

Man was adamant he was talking about landmass as it is. But I was also talking about landmass as it should be.

David Oyedepo is from Kwara. His 2nd University is in Kwara, Landmark University.

I am not sure about the Jebba story or link. However, I know Yorubas own Kwara and Okun land as their ancestral lands.

The British came to stop the war between Nupe and Yorubas, else we would have reclaimed all our land.

Jeba is a pure Yorubaland. Whenever my car gets to Jebba when I'm travelling home, then I begin to feel at home.

People need to travel. Do you know that when there is a break down of law and others in the north, the Hausa-Fulani easily round up any Yoruba that they can see without asking about their state of origins?
Yes be you Ilorin, Ofa, or from Okun, in the eyes of the Fulani you are Yoruba.

One4me:


Dont get mad over nothing.
The message here is that the SW is the place to be!
Imagine, every minority wanst to dissociate from the S/East because they know how you people behave.

Within the SW, they can still move out of Nigeria.

Yorubas living nigeria is a fiction. nobody loves one nigeria more than a yoruba man.

infact an average SW believes his live depends on nigeria.


So nothing to discuss.

Yet they have Emir and not Oba

Benbellamor:
Nobody recognized ODA ....They should have sent the request through their senator Smart Adeyemi and Yusuf?

If the existing structure favours your representatives you think they will just give their personal interest sway lailai

Bkayyy:

Yes I am IGBO and I have been to kwara, but can the latter be said about you?
Everything in life is not deliberated based on assumptions. Travel and see.
It's a shame that an Igbo man from far away igboland has been to kwara but a Yoruba man that it's in her backyard still describe the place based on assumptions

Zombie, what is in the east. Hadn't been I have not been there now, that is another thing. The only state I have not been to in the east is Enugu, I have been to all others. Tell me what is there to visit?

myobjective:


You know nothing about Kwara.

Yoruba are the overwhelming majority in Kwara. Ilorin is a pure Yoruba town, a town where you can't do anything without the Yoruba language. A Yoruba from southwestern states like Ondo, Ekiti, Oyo and Osun easily migrate to Ilorin and marry Ilorin indigenes than even Nupe that a minority in Kwara.

My wife is an Ilorin indigene and the first time I bring she came with me to even Suleja(not core-north) she was complaining about the custom of the people and how she missed Yoruba land.

Don't get yourself deluded, Ilorin people are of pure Oyo stuck but for politics sake, some may claim northerners but that doesn't stop them from being Yoruba.

Ilorin Muslim marry Christians, tolerate their Christians neighbours, drinks and socialized like every Yoruba. Listen to Bari, listen to Saheed Osupa, Pasuma, migrate to Lagos, watch Yoruba film in huge numbers. Even Nupes in Lafiagi are been Yorubazed.

The current governor of Kwara state is an Ilorin man marries to a Lagos Christian Yoruba. The Yoruba never lost Kwara to anyone, in fact, they are gaining Nupe and baruba territory in Kwara state.

Please ask your wife again, you are confusing things here. When it comes to land mass Nupe controls up to 65 percent or more of Kwara state that I can't say for population because as an Igbo man I know what population density is and the Nupe I know tend to have sparsely populated and extremely small villages. Edu local government which is a nupe local government is the biggest local government in Kwara state and their market Gbugbu market is the biggest in the entire state followed by tsaragi market (nupe) before share which of yoruba. Nupe land produces 90 percent of the food that comes from Kwara.
As for the case of yorubanization of Lafiagi which is arguably the second biggest city in Kwara after Ilorin is a damn lie. The Nupes are extremely proud people and don't joke with their language and customs. They only cohabit with Hausas and share the same settlement with Fulanis, as for playing second fiddle to yorubas, it's a big lie. Have you forgotten the share and tsaragi conflict? Ask your wife how Nupe men trooped from Lafiagi and other Nupe towns to chase the yorubas out of share. Guy, Nupe no dey fear fight o.
The language of trade in Kwara is Nupe and Hausa. If you want to buy bags or trailer of food which Kwara state is known for, if you can't speak Nupe or Hausa nothing for you

myobjective:


Jeba is a pure Yorubaland. Whenever my car gets to Jebba when I'm travelling home, then I begin to feel at home.

People need to travel. Do you know that when there is a break down of law and others in the north, the Hausa-Fulani easily round up any Yoruba that they can see without asking about their state of origins?
Yes be you Ilorin, Ofa, or from Okun, in the eyes of the Fulani you are Yoruba.

Wow, I never knew that Jebba was a Yoruba territory.

Bkayyy:

There is a difference between "been to" and "live at". Nigerian graduates never disappoint . As for travelling, it's in my DNA as an Igbo man and I can't apologize for it. It's rare, if not impossible to see an Igbo man of above 25 years that has not travelled out of Igbo land at one point in his youthful life

So what is chasing you if not poverty.

GarangDeMabior:



Yorubas living nigeria is a fiction. nobody loves one nigeria more than a yoruba man.

infact an average SW believes his live depends on nigeria.


So nothing to discuss.

Show wouldn't want to enjoy the crude oil boanaza?

Tell me why the Igbos want to die on top of minorities groups of the deltas crude oil?
You fought a senseless war over oil that is not yours and have the audacity to call Yoruba lover of one Nigeria!

We know that the greedy Igbos have had their eyes fixated on the crude that doesn't belong to them.

Also, why would the Yoruba live when they are the gateway to 200m people?
When they control the financial, telecommunication, industrial and commerce of 200m people?
Why would we live when we can get access to the arable land of the middle belt and the Savannah of the core-north?
Yorubas have no reason to exit Nigeria.

wizzakosh:
So what is chasing you if not poverty.

LOL. the same thing that is chasing the Chinese, more money.

Bkayyy:

If I've not been to Kwara, I would have swallowed some lies here that kwara is a Yoruba state. Only those that has been there knows the boundary between share and tsaragi

Shut up, I put it to you that you have never been to Kwara. You are only deluding yourself which is a common trait of typical OSU man.

Lari03r:

Wow, I never knew that Jebba was a Yoruba territory.

Pure Yoruba of Oyo stock. Speaks proper Yoruba, bears proper Yoruba names and even have an Oba. How else do one define a Yoruba?

Bkayyy:

LOL. the same thing that is chasing the Chinese, more money.

Hahahahaha, how many Chinese do you see in your land, let start with that. I have never seen Chinese selling gala and fan yogo in southwest traffic before . Oya, tell me another thing

Bkayyy:

If I've not been to Kwara, I would have swallowed some lies here that kwara is a Yoruba state. Only those that has been there knows the boundary between share and tsaragi

Please what are you saying? Lingua Franca and culture is mainly Yoruba. The Hausas you meet there are mainly economic migrants from sokoto, kano and Katsina. You only travel down. I am full blooded kwarans. 80% population is Yoruba followed by Nupe. The core Ilorin emirate are Fulanis who have been fully assimilated into Yoruba culture and traditions via inter marriages and associations.

Yoruba owns Kwara followed by Nupe. Pure Fulanis are less than 2% and are mainly migratory.

GarangDeMabior:


Rivers state?


maybe someone from Rivers state will answer u not me.



Benue is north central and unongo is a member of Arewa.

we talking geo location and people not politics.. I reside in Rivers State

wizzakosh:
Shut up, I put it to you that you have never been to Kwara. You are only deluding yourself which is a common trait of typical OSU man.

Speak for yourself

myobjective:


Show wouldn't want to enjoy the crude oil boanaza?

Tell me why the Igbos want to die on top of minorities groups of the deltas crude oil?
You fought a senseless war over oil that is not yours and have the audacity to call Yoruba lover of one Nigeria!

We know that the greedy Igbos have had their eyes fixated on the crude that doesn't belong to them.

Also, why would the Yoruba live when they are the gateway to 200m people?
When they control the financial, telecommunication, industrial and commerce of 200m people?
Why would we live when we can get access to the arable land of the middle belt and the Savannah of the core-north?
Yorubas have no reason to exit Nigeria.

Same igbos agitates to be alone.

The A-Z of all the gases you use in nigeria comes from same igboland. the whole gas supply to Lagos comes from Oguta igboland.


well I don't blame you. there is no single resources to boast of in your land not even the least one litre no wonder biology defined a parasite and parasitism well.


Barren lands feeling funky. try another.


una survival depends on nigeria...Lol

geosegun:


Please what are you saying? Lingua Franca and culture is mainly Yoruba. The Hausas you meet there are mainly economic migrants from sokoto, kano and Katsina. You only travel down. I am full blooded kwarans. 80% population is Yoruba followed by Nupe. The core Ilorin are Fulani who have been fully assimilated into Yoruba culture and traditions.

Yoruba owns Kwara followed by Nupe. Pure Fulanis are less than 2%.

You are from kwara and you say yoruba make up 80%. Guy hmmm. How come Gbugbu market is the biggest market?
As for population, I can't say much on that one but land mass wise, Nupe controls more than 65%

willybaby:
we talking geo location and people not politics.. I reside in Rivers State

You reside in rivers and now comment on benue.

check yourself and your comment.

Benue remains north and arewa and have more muslims.

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Coronabirus:
That's why I like the attitude of core northern states. Despite having the biggest challenges but they'll never throw accusing finger on one another. Only few from the other side knows the geographical location of Hausa, Fulani and Kanuri dominance state. Inspite of wrong accusations and blame games, you hardly see a core northerner blaming one tribe for the fault of other. Fulani are killing people in the name of banditry, Boko Haram is killing and bombing but there was never ethnic tension.
Northern geographical land belongs to the North, if they want to join SW let them join them by mass exodus because not an inch of land will be lost from the northern region.

[/s]Are you normal. Seems you think we are in the olden days. The okun will join yorubas with all their lands, same as Kwara. Go and ask bakasi the rightful owner comeroon got it from Nigeria. Stop thinking like small baby. No one will take any northern land, but the ones that belongs to them will be given to them. That is the fact.

GarangDeMabior:





Yoruba is west and not south.

You dont have an idea man.

Nigeria is divided into two, southern and northern Nigeria.

Yoruba is in southern Nigeria that makes you a Southerner. In southern Nigeria, we are subdivided into three...

South West, South East, South South.

A Yoruba is a Southerner from Nigeria. We dont have Easter Nigeria don't exist as an entity on it's own. It was only built up by the northern elutes to cause segregation among the south.

The highest number of tribes in Nigeria comes from the North.

Now let me ask you? Why should a southwestern Nigeria be regarded as a western and a Northerner western Nigeria be regarded as a Northerner. You get the irony.
West doesn't only belongs to Yorubas in Nigeria, it as well belongs to northwestern Nigeria.

Bkayyy:

Speak for yourself

Oga, I know igboman that travel when I see one. I bet it you never been to oyo, talkless of Kwara.

wizzakosh:
Oga, I know igboman that travel when I see one. I bet it you never been to oyo, talkless of Kwara.

Have you seen me before?

Romanoff:


Fulanis have nothing to do with the Okun People. We have never shared a boundary with them.

So you're from Okun? Funny name shaa

wizzakosh:
Oga, I know igboman that travel when I see one. I bet it you never been to oyo, talkless of Kwara.

Point of correction, an Igbo man is a Voyager by birth. So there is nothing like an Igbo man that travels

Bkayyy:

Please ask your wife again, you are confusing things here. When it comes to land mass Nupe controls up to 65 percent or more of Kwara state that I can't say for population because as an Igbo man I know what population density is and the Nupe I know tend to have sparsely populated and extremely small villages. Edu local government which is a nupe local government is the biggest local government in Kwara state and their market Gbugbu market is the biggest in the entire state followed by tsaragi market (nupe) before share which of yoruba. Nupe land produces 90 percent of the food that comes from Kwara.
As for the case of yorubanization of Lafiagi which is arguably the second biggest city in Kwara after Ilorin is a damn lie. The Nupes are extremely proud people and don't joke with their language and customs. They only cohabit with Hausas and share the same settlement with Fulanis, as for playing second fiddle to yorubas, it's a big lie. Have you forgotten the share and tsaragi conflict? Ask your wife how Nupe men trooped from Lafiagi and other Nupe towns to chase the yorubas out of share. Guy, Nupe no dey fear fight o.
The language of trade in Kwara is Nupe and Hausa. If you want to buy bags or trailer of food which Kwara state is known for, if you can't speak Nupe or Hausa nothing for you

Telling me about Kwara that I go more than three times a year?
Kwara is like my second home. I didn't just marry from Kwara alone, my mom is also from Ilorin. The second most populous town in Kwara after Ilorin is Offa, after Offa it is Omuoaran. Man, you know nothing about Kwara.

No part of Kwara speaks Hausa as a lingua franca. Yoruba is spoken in all the local government and 12 are poor Yorubas while 2 are of baribas and 2 are Nupes.

The two Baruba local government are Baruten and Kaima. In these two local government, Yoruba is the second most widely spoken language after the language of the indigenous.

While the two Nupe local government are Edu and Pategi, these two local gov't have Yoruba as their second language after Nupe.

Try again mr Ipob.

Vanzcharles:



You dont have an idea man.

Nigeria is divided into two, southern and northern Nigeria.

Yoruba is in southern Nigeria that makes you a Southerner. In southern Nigeria, we are subdivided into three...

South West, South East, South South.

A Yoruba is a Southerner from Nigeria. We dont have Easter Nigeria don't exist as an entity on it's own. It was only built up by the northern elutes to cause segregation among the south.

The highest number of tribes in Nigeria comes from the North.

Now let me ask you? Why should a southwestern Nigeria be regarded as a western and a Northerner western Nigeria be regarded as a Northerner. You get the irony.
West doesn't only belongs to Yorubas in Nigeria, it as well belongs to northwestern Nigeria.

No intelligence at all in your post.

So in your map SS exist, NC exist..whack logic

Yoruba is west and not south. No places yoruba in south.

Geography won't change because you are trying to prove a weak logic.

GarangDeMabior:



Same igbos agitates to be alone.
[s]
The A-Z of all the gases you use in nigeria comes from same igboland. the whole gas supply to Lagos comes from Oguta igboland.[/s]


well I don't blame you. there is no single resources to boast of in your land not even the least one litre no want biology defined a parasite and parasitism well.


Barren lands feeling funky. try another.


una survival depends on nigeria...Lol

The gas belongs to the tribes in Delta state, a majority of it belongs to the Ishekiri (a Yoruba subgroup). The only oil in the east is Palm oil.

myobjective:


Telling me about Kwara that I go more than three times a year?
Kwara is like my second home. I didn't just marry from Kwara alone, my mom is also from Ilorin. The second most populous town in Kwara after Ilorin is Offa, after Offa it is Omuoaran. Man, you know nothing about Kwara.

No part of Kwara speaks Hausa as a lingua franca. Yoruba is spoken in all the local government and 12 are poor Yorubas while 2 are baribas and 2 are Nupes.

The two Baruba local government are Baruten and Kaima. In these two local government, Yoruba is the second most widely spoken language after the language of the indigenous. While the two Nupe local government are Edu and Pategi, these two local gov't have Yoruba as their second language after Nupe.

Try again my Ipob.

Try to convince someone that has not been to Kwara. The yorubas in Kwara try to project offa as the second biggest city in Kwara but those that have been there knows better, after visiting all of them I realized that Lafiagi is actually the second biggest just that Nupe people don't like to make noice, they prefer action. And saying that yoruba is spoken in all the Local governments, you made me laugh big time. Yoruba is not even used in tsaragi that shares boundary with share talk more of the entire local governments including the almighty Lafiagi that Nupe don't joke with.
The only thing I give to the yoruba kwarans is that they are more educated than there Nupe counterparts, but when it comes to influence, don't underestimate the Nupe influence because an average Nupe man cares less of what he can gain from the yorubas but the yorubas depend on the Nupe for food which is a primary necessity, now tell me who needs to learn and speak the others language