Parisian:
If you don't receive sense today, you'll never have sense in your life again.

Even in everyday life and in school we are taught that in order to have the future we desire, we must be willing to pass through the pain and hassles of hardwork, disciple, perseverance etc

It is no coincidence that all the self made billionaires in the world faced adversity before being who are they are today. I once read that Jeff Besoz sometimes had to work for 18 hours daily in his basement when he first started Amazon.

Isaac Newton tried numerous times before he was able to power a light bulb. - Adversity.

The wright brothers faced several adversities before they could invent the aeroplane. - Adversity.

Ask any successfull person and they will tell they had to pass through hell before attaining the height they are at today. -Adversity

The best athletes train for several hours daily. -Adversity

All these show adversity so before bashing religion do yourself a favor and buy a brain cuz the one you currently have is on comatose.

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Buliwyf:


I have more sense than you. And what I have written up there is reality and not religion coated horseshit.

Parisian:
If you don't receive sense today, you'll never have sense in your life again.

Even in everyday life and in school we are taught that in order to have the future we desire, we must be willing to pass through the pain and hassles of hardwork, disciple, perseverance etc

It is no coincidence that all the self made billionaires in the world faced adversity before being who are they are today. I once read that Jeff Besoz sometimes had to work for 18 hours daily in his basement when he first started Amazon.

Isaac Newton tried numerous times before he was able to power a light bulb. - Adversity.

The wright brothers faced several adversities before they could invent the aeroplane. - Adversity.

Ask any successfull person and they will tell they had to pass through hell before attaining the height they are at today. -Adversity

The best athletes train for several hours daily. -Adversity

All these show adversity so before bashing religion do yourself a favor and buy a brain cuz the one you currently have is on comatose.

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OtemAtum:
It does not follow. This is a mere consolation of the poor people who think that their adversity is for lifting up. Most of the time, the poor in adversity remain poor after the adversity. Take the case of 95% of Nigerians as an example. However, let's give hope to the poor by inculcating this belief in them still.

Omooba77:
Why does God use adversity to lift people up?

Example Joseph was sold into slavery and he became Prime Minister, also Daniel and others.

Omooba77:
Why does God use adversity to lift people up?

Example Joseph was sold into slavery and he became Prime Minister, also Daniel and others.

Omooba77:
Why does God use adversity to lift people up?

Example Joseph was sold into slavery and he became Prime Minister, also Daniel and others.

OtemAtum:
What about those who end up dying despite their adversities? How will you explain that? Adversity is not a guarantee for lifting up. Rather it's just parts of the challanges humans have to face on earth here.

hungryboy:
God has trust issues

The man wan test your loyalty in adversity first, before him bless you

hungryboy:
God has trust issues


The man wan test your loyalty in adversity first, before him bless you

Omooba77:
Why does God use adversity to lift people up?

Example Joseph was sold into slavery and he became Prime Minister, also Daniel and others.

Buliwyf:
Nonsense. That's like saying that your god is a masochist and even though he is omnipotent and can use other means, he revels in cruelty.

Only a moronic religion teaches that their god uses adversity to build people up. For every story of Joseph that you heard there are countless stories of people who didn't make it out of the adversity. There are also countless people who did the right thing in adversity and got no reward. There are many Josephs that could just as well have died in that prison that we never heard of their stories. Adversity my ass.

It's easy to say in hindsight that Joseph became a prime minister after adversity. But what if he had slept with the woman and still became the prime minister through her connections, would you still be saying all these stories?

Lastly, the last story I would trust is the story in the bible. Seeing as it is written by the supporters of the character being talked about. If Joseph had slept with the woman and went to the prison for it, they could just have written another story too to make it sound nice. That's how most stories in history are written.

OtemAtum:
What about those who end up dying despite their adversities? How will you explain that? Adversity is not a guarantee for lifting up. Rather it's just parts of the challanges humans have to face on earth here.

Stephenomozzy:
God lifts people from adversity... He doesn't USE adversity as a tool.

Adversities in life are a direct and indirect product of humanities constant greed, lies and thieving tendencies.

We must stop this thought-pattern that tends to push every event as the "will of God" without us taking responsibility or holding people responsible for what should be done that isn't done!

OtemAtum:
It does not follow. This is a mere consolation of the poor people who think that their adversity is for lifting up. Most of the time, the poor in adversity remain poor after the adversity. Take the case of 95% of Nigerians as an example. However, let's give hope to the poor by inculcating this belief in them still.

RussellUba:


The Bible was written to make the characters look nice right?
What will you say about David who killed a man and took his wife but was still king?

What about instructing the Israelites to kill the occupants of a land, or even Moses that got angry and refused to do as he was directed?

See, only a person who wants to deceive people will show his gentle side, but the few examples given here are not like that.


Secondly, talking about the stories in the Bible being the last thing that you will listen to, it is your will and choice. But remember this story. A man (Isaiah) lived hundreds of years before Christ. And he prophesied (that is if you believe in prophesy) that the city of Babylon will never being inhabited peacefully forever.
However Sadam Hussein tried to build a palace there; the US army also tried their luck. If you want to know the outcome of these trials against what was prophesied in an old book that you think is filled with fables, why not take a tour 50km from Bangladesh and visit that city.

RussellUba:


Hmm. What then can we say of Judges 3:1-2.

Buliwyf:
Nonsense. That's like saying that your god is a masochist and even though he is omnipotent and can use other means, he revels in cruelty.

Only a moronic religion teaches that their god uses adversity to build people up. For every story of Joseph that you heard there are countless stories of people who didn't make it out of the adversity. There are also countless people who did the right thing in adversity and got no reward. There are many Josephs that could just as well have died in that prison that we never heard of their stories. Adversity my ass.

It's easy to say in hindsight that Joseph became a prime minister after adversity. But what if he had slept with the woman and still became the prime minister through her connections, would you still be saying all these stories?

Lastly, the last story I would trust is the story in the bible. Seeing as it is written by the supporters of the character being talked about. If Joseph had slept with the woman and went to the prison for it, they could just have written another story too to make it sound nice. That's how most stories in history are written.

hungryboy:
God has trust issues


The man wan test your loyalty in adversity first, before him bless you

Omooba77:
Why does God use adversity to lift people up?

Example Joseph was sold into slavery and he became Prime Minister, also Daniel and others.

Omooba77:
Why does God use adversity to lift people up?

Example Joseph was sold into slavery and he became Prime Minister, also Daniel and others.

RussellUba:


The Bible was written to make the characters look nice right?
What will you say about David who killed a man and took his wife but was still king?

What about instructing the Israelites to kill the occupants of a land, or even Moses that got angry and refused to do as he was directed?

See, only a person who wants to deceive people will show his gentle side, but the few examples given here are not like that.

RussellUba:

Secondly, talking about the stories in the Bible being the last thing that you will listen to, it is your will and choice. But remember this story. A man (Isaiah) lived hundreds of years before Christ. And he prophesied (that is if you believe in prophesy) that the city of Babylon will never being inhabited peacefully forever.
However Sadam Hussein tried to build a palace there; the US army also tried their luck. If you want to know the outcome of these trials against what was prophesied in an old book that you think is filled with fables, why not take a tour 50km from Bangladesh and visit that city.

Heyzee5:

My brother, this thing you said shows you have not come across people who struggle with nothing to show for it!!

hungryboy:
God has trust issues


The man wan test your loyalty in adversity first, before him bless you

shadeyinka:

In Christianity, death is NOT a sign of failure. Death is just a calling back home. Isn't Jesus's death not a victory for Christians?

Every human being goes through life's challenges. When those challenges conflicts directly with what a Christian know as God's will for him, such is called a TRIAL!