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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 8:27pm On Sep 20, 2020
BrabusNG:


It’s the place to be!

2 Days / Thousand + Visitors/50+ Exhibitors / N20b+ worth of deals!

There are more than 2,500 guaranteed ready-to-invest visitors. It’s an event that offers large scope of sales, networking and branding opportunities.

I learnt a lot about precast concrete elements from the University of Lagos Team at the 2014 event
I will be on watch out for subsequent editions.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 8:40pm On Sep 20, 2020
valencia2012:

In fact, my ongoing retirement home, a six bedroom duplex has two visitors's toilets, one downstairs and on the upper floor. The main living room is without a void. I wouldn't want my visitors using my toilet, my wife or children's upstairs or the stress of juttling downstairs and up again.
Again, maybe an over over over kill with eight toilets, but you need all the comfort, privacy, luxury in your retirement!

Nice o. The only differerence is that I did not have a Visitors toilet upstairs. But I do have a large livingroom upstairs not intended for visitors but family room only.
No overkill in personal comfort o. Thank you.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by vickzie(m): 8:43pm On Sep 20, 2020
bebe2:


honestly i dont understand that page, am hoping some here can explain.
i have message the architect and waiting for a reply.
I can't find the original question but I think you are asking for septic tank/ soak away size/ cost?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BrabusNG: 8:46pm On Sep 20, 2020
bixton:



Are these doors really bullet proof?
How does one actually know that a door is bullet proof apart from trying to test it with a gun?

I once had a discussion some years back with a foreigner who told me if a bullet proof door does not come with a certificate backing it's proof(yness) then it's not bullet proof but just a grade of armoured door.


Is there any contrary view?

They’re actually bullet resistant not bulletproof. They don’t stop bullets but can destabilize it.

When you’re doing this for security, don't just think about just doing the room door alone. All the surrounding walls need to be reinforced with at least 3mm steel or polycarbonate or bookcase.

More importantly watch and pray.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 8:59pm On Sep 20, 2020
BrabusNG:


The same thing happened to one of my former landlord. It was as if the kids were waiting for the man to die.

They were just selling everything sellable after his death.


Hmmm such a wonderful family.
One of my cousins wanted to sell one of the property his late dad willed to him in Port Harcourt because he was resident in Calabar. Well according to him his father appeared to him in the dream and told him if he tries selling it that he will die and he should also warn his siblings too.
Lucky enough the buildings have been put for rental purposes and no one is complaining.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by megan1: 9:25pm On Sep 20, 2020
Horlardorjah:



they could be habitating in the hollow blocks n after plastering find their way up to the roof n drop from any possible hole or space.
that's just my personal opinion as their could be other ways like through your floor drains if not properly done n possibly with loads or items you moved in with like someone's also mentioned.

just do thorough check n fumigate both the roof n the house extensively again.
Thank you. I will fumigate the roof too

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by valencia2012(m): 9:54pm On Sep 20, 2020
mufutau55:


Nice o. The only differerence is that I did not have a Visitors toilet upstairs. But I do have a large livingroom upstairs not intended for visitors but family room only.
No overkill in personal comfort o. Thank you.

Hajji M.

Abi! You build visitors's toilet, you die. You no build, you die. Make I build and die!
The main family lounge downstairs without void is for all and sundry. But I'll be hosting exclusive private visitors upstairs without the Idumota downstairs! So I use my private living room and the balcony. And after enough palmwine, my visitors wouldn't have to "stagger" through my room, madam or children's. Or even the stairs!
So let's build visitors's toilets and die!�

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Pascal2016: 10:07pm On Sep 20, 2020
Imo State, along Owerri Onitsha Road, Mbaitoli.Thats the location of the land.
boay:


This is like a pile foundation. The type of foundation depends on some factors of which the type and nature of the site is one.

If your Engr is competent and honest, you can trust is judgment/decisions.


By the way, where is the location and what is the nature of the site?

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 10:18pm On Sep 20, 2020
bebe2:

wow, thats an eye opener.
its obviously a tenants market in nigeria.

80pc of 2 bedroom flats in the uk only have 1 toilet and bathroom.

Exactly thats the market trend in the Nigeria. I dont personally like it but .... I won't occupy all my rental units grin

the trends are changing every where in the world..
Yes, most 2bd in UK and U.S have 1 bath but newer builds usually have 2 and that reflects in the price too.. you can't be oga for mouth grin grin

So these are the considerations people look at before renting.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 10:20pm On Sep 20, 2020
Pascal2016:
Imo State, along Owerri Onitsha Road, Mbaitoli.Thats the location of the land.

This is very unusual for someone to recommend pile foundation around this area..

Did the engineer explain in detail the reason why he chose this type of foundation?

Sometimes some engineers could be overambitious.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bebe2(f): 10:34pm On Sep 20, 2020
vickzie:
I can't find the original question but I think you are asking for septic tank/ soak away size/ cost?

no, am asking for estimate of the complete build.
the property already has soak away and borehole.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 10:47pm On Sep 20, 2020
Snipper can be deadly o!, he shouldn't put it in kitchen zinc.

I used snipper to kill termites from my kitchen some time ago, I later disposed the termites after they died, 3 chickens and lizard that ate the termite died on the spot shocked. I felt guilty of killing those innocent animal! Pls don't use sniper in the kitchen
jiday4:

Pour sniper into the kitchen zinc and also the toilet drainage, those two places are your number 1 culprit for scorpions and millipede.
Had same issues, we did fumigate everywhere but scorpions keep coming into the house ,until we find out they are either coming through the zinc or the toilet hole

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mrsteel: 11:10pm On Sep 20, 2020
Badgers14:
Please help me review, critique this floor plan. A friend is currently erecting this building at the moment.. I saw the floor plan and it looks nice, I plan to consider it in the future.. but need another eyes to look it over ... not sure if I am missing anything..?
Ventilation for living room & dining is neither cross nor angular.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mrsteel: 11:14pm On Sep 20, 2020
bebe2:


honestly i dont understand that page, am hoping some here can explain.
i have message the architect and waiting for a reply.
That page contains your septic tank & soak away details
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 11:18pm On Sep 20, 2020
Lol grin...

That contain details of septic tank, soakaway and IC. To me, that page is just to increase pages, its a copy and paste(CAD detailing).
bebe2:


honestly i dont understand that page, am hoping some here can explain.
i have message the architect and waiting for a reply.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mrsteel: 11:19pm On Sep 20, 2020
bebe2:


no, am asking for estimate of the complete build.
the property already has soak away and borehole.
Request for d PDF copy of d drawings from ur architect & send it to anyone that wish to help u with d estimate.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 11:20pm On Sep 20, 2020
Exactly! It a matter of choice and want of individual
valencia2012:


In fact, my ongoing retirement home, a six bedroom duplex has two visitors's toilets, one downstairs and on the upper floor. The main living room is without a void. I wouldn't want my visitors using my toilet, my wife or children's upstairs or the stress of juttling downstairs and up again.
Again, maybe an over over over kill with eight toilets, but you need all the comfort, privacy, luxury in your retirement!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 11:20pm On Sep 20, 2020
valencia2012:

Abi! You build visitors's toilet, you die. You no build, you die. Make I build and die!
The main family lounge downstairs without void is for all and sundry. But I'll be hosting exclusive private visitors upstairs without the Idumota downstairs! So I use my private living room and the balcony. And after enough palmwine, my visitors wouldn't have to "stagger" through my room, madam or children's. Or even the stairs!
So let's build visitors's toilets and die!�

I think you are my brother from another mother.
I was going to use the space for void too, then I changed my mind... I don't have to come downstairs for days when the old age don catch. Anything I can do downstairs can also be done upstairs. We are in the same boat o. smiley

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 11:23pm On Sep 20, 2020
The only thing I believe in!
BrabusNG:


They’re actually bullet resistant not bulletproof. They don’t stop bullets but can destabilize it.

When you’re doing this for security, don't just think about just doing the room door alone. All the surrounding walls need to be reinforced with at least 3mm steel or polycarbonate or bookcase.

More importantly watch and pray.



Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mrsteel: 11:29pm On Sep 20, 2020
Pascal2016:
I need advice from expert in the house pls.
I want to build a two deck (2 storey) and my Engr said we are going to use the this foundation type I uploaded in this picture.
Pls should I tell him to go on?
I have not seen where people dug foundation for pillars only, chained it and casted DPC and followed up the block formation.
Is this really going to carry the the two storey building?
What's the nature of d land like?
Waterlogged or dry?
That's pile foundation
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 12:41am On Sep 21, 2020
Mjolnir:


the sonic mosquito and rat repellant, i bought dont appear to be effective. would you mind sharing the link/source of yours

Mine was from ebay UK about three years ago and still working as at my last visit to Nigeria before the pandemic.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 12:57am On Sep 21, 2020
EgunMogaji2:


They already do one here. I sent my partner to one a few years back that was held at UI. I'll try to find some more information on it.

Not to sound pompous but I personally don't think I'll learn from it. I have a clear opinion of what I want to do and what is good based on my sojourn.

I think the combination of the foreign experience that I bring to the table and my partners knowledge of Nigeria as well as listening to our various artisans gives me all I need.

If there's anything I am passionate about, it's getting modern tools into the hands of these guys and training them. I cannot get my masons to use basic hand tools for any length of time.

I'm currently trying to figure out how to create reusable metal work for setting out. The wood is wastefulness
.

These are some of the reasons for a property tradefair. One does not light a candle and put it under a table. Fairs are not only to learn but to educate as well.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 1:03am On Sep 21, 2020
michlins:
I want to say I'm learning a whole lot from this talk about building for a family.


Here in Nnewi, you will see these billionaires having more than five structures in same compound and you can't help but wonder what will happen after few years when they are old.

The popular one that manufacture cars, if you see his compound and the number of structures in it eh. Funny thing is that he's still building more inside same compound. I don't know his plans though.

Thanks for the insights

It all has to do with what we consider as most valuable to us!

Some build with their Hearts - The overall idea is to IMPRESS your Neighbour that you have arrived
Some build with their Brains - The overall idea is FUNCTIONALITY, efficiency that works
Some build with their Heart and Brains - the overall idea is to build LEAN, BEAUTIFUL and PROFITABLE.


Life is a stage, some achieve maturity at a younger age than others and see what 'elders' see at their old age, others take their time to mature.
Wherever you stand or put yourself, just make sure you enjoy yourself, dont complain or compare yourself to Musa at the Gate, he is also enjoying his life, at his own level.

My Ten Cent worth.

Lastpage!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by aghaibiam(f): 2:02am On Sep 21, 2020
I need contact for a good and affordable tiler to work at kuje area council.floor space is 300 sqm.Standard local rates apply.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 2:09am On Sep 21, 2020
BrabusNG:


They’re actually bullet resistant not bulletproof. They don’t stop bullets but can destabilize it.

When you’re doing this for security, don't just think about just doing the room door alone. All the surrounding walls need to be reinforced with at least 3mm steel or polycarbonate or bookcase.

More importantly watch and pray.



I made mention of the quality of the steel and someone said they are made with ballistic resistant materials. I don't know what that is and I haven't seen the door so I piped low. But all I know is that you need at least 5mm steel to have bullet resistance in mind
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 2:13am On Sep 21, 2020
valencia2012:


Abi! You build visitors's toilet, you die. You no build, you die. Make I build and die!
The main family lounge downstairs without void is for all and sundry. But I'll be hosting exclusive private visitors upstairs without the Idumota downstairs! So I use my private living room and the balcony. And after enough palmwine, my visitors wouldn't have to "stagger" through my room, madam or children's. Or even the stairs!
So let's build visitors's toilets and die!�
good day sir. You said that you will contact me about making rails for you but since then, I haven't heard anything from you
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 2:17am On Sep 21, 2020
valencia2012:


Abi! You build visitors's toilet, you die. You no build, you die. Make I build and die!
The main family lounge downstairs without void is for all and sundry. But I'll be hosting exclusive private visitors upstairs without the Idumota downstairs! So I use my private living room and the balcony. And after enough palmwine, my visitors wouldn't have to "stagger" through my room, madam or children's. Or even the stairs!
So let's build visitors's toilets and die!�

I think the VT debate has gone off track. Let me try and bring it back on track.

For a personal family home, if you like o include ten visitors toilets all ensuit with gateman toilet and garden toilet, even generator house toilet kpa kpa. All join. It is your life choices, so you design your home accordingly.

However, when you are investing in rental property, what are the features and fixtures that will attract tenants and command decent or half decent rental income? This is what I think the debate is all about.

From my experience, overloading a rental apartment with toilets does not attract tenants more than the average apartment with adequate toilets and neither does it command higher rent for the same location.

From my experience, what command quick rental, retainership and higher rent for the same location are all round POP finish, slick modern glossy wardrobe in every room and sharp kitchen with cabinets. A light, airy apartment with natural sunlight flooding in with good flow will command decent rent than all ensuite with PVC ceiling.

We have seen it here where an investor will spend so much of his/her budget on "over" toilets only to finish it off with PVC ceiling and crappy kitchen. In such an instance, the investor has missed a trick or two.

I would rather save up on toilets to spend on POP finish, all room slick wardrobe and a swanky kitchen. This is what works for me.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BrabusNG: 2:39am On Sep 21, 2020
michlins:
I made mention of the quality of the steel and someone said they are made with ballistic resistant materials. I don't know what that is and I haven't seen the door so I piped low. But all I know is that you need at least 5mm steel to have bullet resistance in mind

There are different bullet resistant materials but the best ones can only deflect or destabilize a bullet.

Even 5mm won’t stop many bullet.

For every weapon developed, there’s a countermeasure developed to stop it.

For every countermeasure developed, there’s a weapon developed to get through it.

That’s how we’ve evolved through the ages.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BrabusNG: 2:46am On Sep 21, 2020
Abolarin91:
Snipper can be deadly o!, he shouldn't put it in kitchen zinc.

I used snipper to kill termites from my kitchen some time ago, I later disposed the termites after they died, 3 chickens and lizard that ate the termite died on the spot shocked. I felt guilty of killing those innocent animal! Pls don't use sniper in the kitchen

That chemical/substance must not find its way into my building.

I don’t take such risks.

When I had termite issue during foundation stage, I was surprised that “omi fufu/akpu” (I don’t know how to explain it jare) did the job without stress.

Consult local farmers. They have a lot more effective and reliable solutions.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BrabusNG: 2:56am On Sep 21, 2020
Cement Scarcity

How’s it at your end? I’m surprised that it didn’t affect Ijebu Ode.

Over the weekend, I got Dangote at N2650/bag in Ijebu Ode.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 2:58am On Sep 21, 2020
BrabusNG:


There are good Nigerians doing great stuffs.

I spent my weekend working on openable burglar proofs and bi-folding nets. It was a great explore as we try to bring the outdoor inside without security compromise.

I recall we discussed this "openable burglar-proof" about four years ago (around 2016 or thereabout) and you wanted to show me what you came up with but issues then, created a digression!

I also brain-stormed and came up with something that is working for me.
You should see the eyes of my Fabricator when the thing finally went into use, from his initial "oga, just put padlock and use key to open it in an emergency".
I was like you wont even find the key and if you found it, you wont be calm enough to operate such Key-Padlock, in a fire emergency. undecided

It has three Solid Steel Hinges on one side (sturdiness), then their is a drop down, 7.5ft 16mm Rod at the other swing end that ends in a latch which requires "lifting it up and turning it 180-degrees, for it to allow the window to open.
It is carefully balanced and springed, to ensure even a young boy of three years can open it from the inside.
The thing is, the latch is almost at ground level inside the Room and any hand or tool cant operate it from outside, except from the inside (you wont have the leverage in terms of space, reach, angle and even effort/power to operate the latch at its fulcrum, from the outside.
undecided


This "bi-folding" Nets from you is also of interest to me! It would make removing and cleaning them easier, for one
It never occured to me before, to try and make it Bi-Folding, instead of the usual slide-over types l have. Now l have to start thinking about it and implement it soon. grin
What about allowing the Foldable/non-foldable net attach to the Swing Burglar proof so that when that moves, it moves along with it?
Just a thought.

I am happy that this thread is returning to its initial mentality of churning out ideas and helping others in need of what to do and how to do it.
Kudos to those Engineers, Builders, Contractors, Surveyors, Architects, Electricians, Installers, etc
that have given their time and shared their knowledge on this thread, you may never know but the good and kindness you have showed to others here, will somehow come back to you in many folds, where and in ways you least expect it.


Lastpage!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 3:10am On Sep 21, 2020
Badgers14:


Excellent idea on the Openable burglar proofs.

I had a sketch once, trying to implement that in my build, the welder was like oga , them no dey build that kind here... all my efforts to talk , talk fell on deaf ears angry

I detest the ones that look like jail. I mean, how could you seal up a flat like that? What ifs... what if there was a fire? And so on and on...

In an effort to protect ourselves, we shouldn't make the situation worse.

I like forward thinking individuals.

Similar i don't like the fence they build up everything. It is an added security to build up the fence half way then use burglar bar of some sort to finish up the rest. So when someone is walking by they could see through the fence. Privacy concerns yes but added security yes also.

If someone is really doing anything private private, they will have to go inside their flats grin



Environment is the major determining factor, as to what type of fence one should have.
In some Environment, you can forget a Generator or expensive bike INSIDE your compound/premises that has a three coach fence and nothng more and it will there there for Weeks, untouched, because everyone around you are in such CLASS of not stealing such 'minor' things from their neighbours

In another environment
, if you forget ordinary Pliers or your child left his side-winder scooter outside in DAYTIME, it will be gone before you come donstairs to pick it up for lock-up in the shed.
They will steal ANYTHING of value, no matter how small.
With such ENVIRONMENT, sealing-out prying eyes is of utmost importance otherwise, they would use a Ladder to climb your 10ft Fence, if it does not have an Electric Shock topping.
grin

I dont like High Fences but in one of my build, the fence of Kudje Prison will bow, looking at the spikes under the Electric topper of the fence.
If you can escape the Electric shock (some thieves come really prepared), the Spikes will impale the thieves for sure.
They even came to steal used Planks, while we were still building, something l would have given then for free, when we are done using them. angry angry

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