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Re: Opinion About The Attack On Tinubu And Godfatherism by Bodexman(op): 8:39pm On Sep 26, 2020
SLAP44:
Another Igbo adage says "when a king becomes too arrogant, we can wear a basket on our head and speak to him as we want"
And have you stood up against ikpeazu and his likes who are playing ping pong on the masses?
Re: Opinion About The Attack On Tinubu And Godfatherism by archangel1(m): 8:42pm On Sep 26, 2020
Don't know why every dick and Harry will be accusing ndi Igbo for their self made misfortunes? Edo people rejected Tinubuic imposition, the Igbo are today taking the blame? I wonder...oooo!

This Op sef, e be like say you dey eat through an*s?
Re: Opinion About The Attack On Tinubu And Godfatherism by Bodexman(op): 8:43pm On Sep 26, 2020
LegendHero:
Awo is the Yoruba political Godfather and what he did for us is visible even to this current generation.

Akintola betrayed the cause when he allied with the North because they sold him a dummy that they are going to end Godfatherism.

Now ask yourself, what did we achieve from Akintola and what are the legacies that can be attributed to him?

Both Godfatherism or a lack of it still bore down to performance. If you don’t perform then the people will turn their back against you.

Tinubu was able to achieve that status in Lagos because he gave them Fashola who performed above expectation and Tinubu banked on his own former tentacles and utilized Fashola achievement as a better leverage.

Even Buhari 2015 was able to harness the Tinubu/Fashola goodwill because Fashola was the poster boy for APC then in the press.

When Tinubu’s mate are going to Abuja as senator in 2007, he stood back home in Lagos and focused on making Lagos his own universe. If he don’t support performing politicians, then a million Godfather cannot hold the people of Lagos from voting them out.

In as much as Tinubu APC continue to produce performing governors in Lagos, then a trillion PDP cannot depose them.

He was born with politics, grew in politics, schooled in politics, and graduated with politics.

Asiwaju omo olodo ide!
God bless you bro.

You added a beautiful colour to this article
Re: Opinion About The Attack On Tinubu And Godfatherism by archangel1(m): 8:45pm On Sep 26, 2020
Bodexman:
In the recent weeks, we've seen several attacks on the personality of Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu, mostly by the igbos. One would wondered the reasons behind the attack.
Firstly, Tinubu has never ruled any of their states nor cross the path of their leaders to warrant such attacks. The Igbos have taken up important positions within the Lagos State government circle simply because of this same Tinubu, while some of them have been pushed to the federal level.
This same Tinubu left government in 2007, and since then decided to work on himself and became influential while some of his then colleagues left for the senate while others were looking for federal appointment. He never jostle for any, rather he elevated others instead for those positions. That is what leaders are made of.

You don't become a leader by taking up every positions or opportunity thrown at you, rather you empower others to get there.

"Leaders made men" and that's what Tinubu is.

People have been saying his men are everywhere in government occupying top positions. It was so because he decided to give it out and help others instead of occupying it. This is a man who has never been a federal appointee before and you wondered why Tinubu is influential? Do you think his colleagues are not envious of him and wish to do same? I read in a newspaper page some couple of years back where Gov. Okowa of Delta State celebrated Tinubu on his birthday, a full page space paid by the Delta state govt. Isn't that influence? Tinubu has his men even in the PDP, I mean real men

So why won't people see him as a godfather? They also forget that Tinubu is not just one man. He is simply surrounded by men who he also listen to

Do you know that the Lionel Messi & Cristiano Ronaldo of Nigeria politics today is Tinubu?

The PDP will rather let go of Obaseki or Wike if Tinubu decides to join them today, and that's the bitter truth!

Many people shouting down at him will do worse if they are to be in his position.

Finally, I have noticed that the attack on Tinubu from mostly the Igbos is because of 2023. They know the man is the major stumbling block for them if they are to win the presidential contest, hence the need to whittle down his power and influence. They simply can't point to a man who can stand shoulder to shoulder with him, hence the beef and noise everywhere.

They shout the Yorubas are slaves to Tinubu, yet they have some useless godfathers in their region who failed to help them develop their states, yet they never bother to dethrone them, but Tinubu is their major problem. The leave their region in droves so as to seek greener pastures in a state controlled by this same man they love to hate while theirs in a sorry state.

When are they going to stand up to their godfathers who are starving their states and milking their region dry at the detriment of the people?

They claim they don't worship men, they are liberal, yet one certain Kanu came from nowhere whose achievement in the corporate world cannot match that of Tinubu even before he joined politics in any way, he played on their intelligence, extort them and run away. The man assumed the position of a god to them during his short stay here, though many of them still worship him today.

Godfathers are everywhere. Even in your locality. In Nigeria politics, when one godfather is dethrone, another emerges. Mr Ibori is still there controlling Delta politics. Wike is simply going to be one, the list goes on and on.

If as a Yoruba man, you're still thinking that the reason behind the attack on Tinubu is because of godfatherism, you're making a mistake, IT IS SIMPLY BECAUSE OF 2023.

Olabode from Lagos.
I don't know why every dick and Harry will be accusing ndi Igbo for their self made misfortunes? Edo people rejected Tinubuic imposition, the Igbo are today taking the blame? I wonder...oooo!

This Op sef, e be like say you dey eat through an*s?
Re: Opinion About The Attack On Tinubu And Godfatherism by LegendHero(m): 9:45pm On Sep 26, 2020
Bodexman:
God bless you bro.

You added a beautiful colour to this article
God bless you too.
Re: Opinion About The Attack On Tinubu And Godfatherism by sapoyoro(m): 7:55am On Sep 27, 2020
LegendHero:
God bless you too.
strange guy that always claim pro Yoruba and neutral but always finding a way to defend APC and Tinubu....I doff my hat oo..
Re: Opinion About The Attack On Tinubu And Godfatherism by IJOBA2: 8:12am On Sep 27, 2020
ajailer:
We all know that the reason is 2023 and I care less about the nonentities but it's good that Tinubu's enemies are coming out early for him to know where his battles are. Watch Jagaban come out on top Las Las.
AJALA THE TRAVELER grin
Re: Opinion About The Attack On Tinubu And Godfatherism by LegendHero(m): 1:25pm On Sep 27, 2020
sapoyoro:
strange guy that always claim pro Yoruba and neutral but always finding a way to defend APC and Tinubu....I doff my hat oo..
Let me tell you a secret.

You can’t be pro-Yoruba and hate Tinubu or APC.

Why do you think our fathers established AD as their sole party then?

Even they are not as perfect but APC is like the continuation of AD and can be the one closest to Action Group.

I haven’t even seen how a party card or meeting look like let alone being in any party for that matter.

So don’t think I’m APC member but ideologically as a pro-Yoruba that I am, APC still presents us a better option than PDP on average if you look at the kind of governors both parties produced for us since 1999 up to present in the six SW states.

I know you’re that guy from Osun that always curse around. Thank God you don’t curse me this time around!
Re: Opinion About The Attack On Tinubu And Godfatherism by sapoyoro(m): 1:33pm On Sep 27, 2020
LegendHero:
Let me tell you a secret.

You can’t be pro-Yoruba and hate Tinubu or APC.

Why do you think our fathers established AD as their sole party then?

Even they are not as perfect but APC is like the continuation of AD and can be the one closest to Action Group.

I haven’t even seen how a party card or meeting look like let alone being in any party for that matter.

So don’t think I’m APC member but ideologically as a pro-Yoruba that I am, APC still presents us a better option than PDP on average if you look at the kind of governors both parties produced for us since 1999 up to present in the six SW states.

I know you’re that guy from Osun that always curse around. Thank God you don’t curse me this time around!
lol..
u can't be a Yoruba and hate tinubu or APC....
a pro Yoruba man that defends impunity and injustice meted by the party and Governors on the same Yoruba people he claim to be "pro"..
There are millions of frustrated and angry people all over Sw due to the Un-omoluabi treatment being suffered by d people... d evidence is there for u all over SW..
hahahahaa..dis man funny shaa
APC supporter paraku claiming neutral..
Re: Opinion About The Attack On Tinubu And Godfatherism by LegendHero(m): 1:39pm On Sep 27, 2020
sapoyoro:
lol..
u can't be a Yoruba and hate tinubu or APC....
a pro Yoruba man that defends impunity and injustice meted by the party and Governors on the same Yoruba people he claim to be "pro"..
There are millions of frustrated and angry people all over Sw due to the Un-omoluabi treatment being suffered by d people... d evidence is there for u all over SW..
hahahahaa..dis man funny shaa
APC supporter paraku claiming neutral..
Calm down.

There are six states in the SW and I’m sure you’re conversant with the politics of the west since 1999.

Looking at the Corp of governors both party produced, which party can boast of the best governors in the SW on aggregate among the two parties since 1999? Please speak with truth.

Lastly, on this forum I haven’t seen you defending any Yoruba honor or even speaking when you should speak up for the Yorubas. So I don’t think you can be more pro-Yoruba than I do judging by this forum let alone what we are doing outside this forum.

Your only contribution on Nairaland is to curse your fellow Yorubas because they have different ideology from you. You’ve been cursing people as far back as 2018 or so without any contribution to knowledge.
Re: Opinion About The Attack On Tinubu And Godfatherism by twodee75: 1:45pm On Sep 27, 2020
LegendHero:
Let me tell you a secret.

You can’t be pro-Yoruba and hate Tinubu or APC.

Why do you think our fathers established AD as their sole party then?

Even they are not as perfect but APC is like the continuation of AD and can be the one closest to Action Group.

I haven’t even seen how a party card or meeting look like let alone being in any party for that matter.

So don’t think I’m APC member but ideologically as a pro-Yoruba that I am, APC still presents us a better option than PDP on average if you look at the kind of governors both parties produced for us since 1999 up to present in the six SW states.

I know you’re that guy from Osun that always curse around. Thank God you don’t curse me this time around!
Abeg speak for yourself, which of your father form AD? The party was formed like any other partties... And still date AD is still alive... So APC is different from APC... APC is combination of different parties.
Re: Opinion About The Attack On Tinubu And Godfatherism by LegendHero(m): 1:52pm On Sep 27, 2020
twodee75:
Abeg speak for yourself, which of your father form AD? The party was formed like any other partties... And still date AD is still alive... So APC is different from APC... APC is combination of different parties.
AD is just alive on paper because most of its adherents are now scattered in AC which metamorphosed to ACN/APC.

When I’m taking about APC, I am not talking about the federal here. My talks are based on the SW so don’t get me wrong.

Even a 5year old child knows APC is a combination of different parties in the Federal scenes.
Re: Opinion About The Attack On Tinubu And Godfatherism by Brooklynsouth(f): 2:02pm On Sep 27, 2020
Bodexman:
In the recent weeks, we've seen several attacks on the personality of Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu, mostly by the igbos. One would wondered the reasons behind the attack.
Firstly, Tinubu has never ruled any of their states nor cross the path of their leaders to warrant such attacks. The Igbos have taken up important positions within the Lagos State government circle simply because of this same Tinubu, while some of them have been pushed to the federal level.
This same Tinubu left government in 2007, and since then decided to work on himself and became influential while some of his then colleagues left for the senate while others were looking for federal appointment. He never jostle for any, rather he elevated others instead for those positions. That is what leaders are made of.

You don't become a leader by taking up every positions or opportunity thrown at you, rather you empower others to get there.

"Leaders made men" and that's what Tinubu is.

People have been saying his men are everywhere in government occupying top positions. It was so because he decided to give it out and help others instead of occupying it. This is a man who has never been a federal appointee before and you wondered why Tinubu is influential? Do you think his colleagues are not envious of him and wish to do same? I read in a newspaper page some couple of years back where Gov. Okowa of Delta State celebrated Tinubu on his birthday, a full page space paid by the Delta state govt. Isn't that influence? Tinubu has his men even in the PDP, I mean real men

So why won't people see him as a godfather? They also forget that Tinubu is not just one man. He is simply surrounded by men who he also listen to

Do you know that the Lionel Messi & Cristiano Ronaldo of Nigeria politics today is Tinubu?

The PDP will rather let go of Obaseki or Wike if Tinubu decides to join them today, and that's the bitter truth!

Many people shouting down at him will do worse if they are to be in his position.

Finally, I have noticed that the attack on Tinubu from mostly the Igbos is because of 2023. They know the man is the major stumbling block for them if they are to win the presidential contest, hence the need to whittle down his power and influence. They simply can't point to a man who can stand shoulder to shoulder with him, hence the beef and noise everywhere.

They shout the Yorubas are slaves to Tinubu, yet they have some useless godfathers in their region who failed to help them develop their states, yet they never bother to dethrone them, but Tinubu is their major problem. The leave their region in droves so as to seek greener pastures in a state controlled by this same man they love to hate while theirs in a sorry state.

When are they going to stand up to their godfathers who are starving their states and milking their region dry at the detriment of the people?

They claim they don't worship men, they are liberal, yet one certain Kanu came from nowhere whose achievement in the corporate world cannot match that of Tinubu even before he joined politics in any way, he played on their intelligence, extort them and run away. The man assumed the position of a god to them during his short stay here, though many of them still worship him today.

Godfathers are everywhere. Even in your locality. In Nigeria politics, when one godfather is dethrone, another emerges. Mr Ibori is still there controlling Delta politics. Wike is simply going to be one, the list goes on and on.

If as a Yoruba man, you're still thinking that the reason behind the attack on Tinubu is because of godfatherism, you're making a mistake, IT IS SIMPLY BECAUSE OF 2023.

Olabode from Lagos.
if you like sing from now till Thursday kingdom come he will never be president
Re: Opinion About The Attack On Tinubu And Godfatherism by izombie(m): 2:03pm On Sep 27, 2020
helinues:
Save us this epistle...

Tinubu could have stayed out of the Edo election...

No be everything person dey put mouth on
simple. He should've stayed out of it. He was just shown in Edo that he has no pull outside the south west states. Next is to invade south west and also show him he has no hold there too until finally, Lagos will also be taken from him. We must release afonjas from tinubu.
Re: Opinion About The Attack On Tinubu And Godfatherism by sapoyoro(m): 2:07pm On Sep 27, 2020
LegendHero:
Calm down.

There are six states in the SW and I’m sure you’re conversant with the politics of the west since 1999.

Looking at the Corp of governors both party produced, which party can boast of the best governors in the SW on aggregate among the two parties since 1999? Please speak with truth.

Lastly, on this forum I haven’t seen you defending any Yoruba honor or even speaking when you should speak up for the Yorubas. So I don’t think you can be more pro-Yoruba than I do judging by this forum let alone what we are doing outside this forum.

Your only contribution on Nairaland is to curse your fellow Yorubas because they have different ideology from you. You’ve been cursing people as far back as 2018 or so without any contribution to knowledge.
hahahaa
tell me what is worse than not paying salaries and pensions oo thereby throwing Millons of people in to poverty...dat one na omoluabi act abi?
u don check stats, SW states are virtually d most indebted states in Nijaa today.....with virtually nothing to show for it...
APC is better than PDP?
lol..just as APC has been tragedy in the national level so are they in d states...
lol..u think most most SW people will not want to back to when they are buying cup of rice for 30 naira under PDP than d 100 its sold for now?
or can u tell me exactly anything what SW enjoys right now ahead of everyone else in Nigeria?
lol..u be joke jare mister like most delusional APC supporters...
APC has been a total disaster and sooner or Later they will be weeded out of SW cos most people are tired of the excruciating hardship they have caused..
A pro Yoruba man do not stand with political party or some particular thieving politicians..
he stands solidly and identify with the pains of d ollpolois..
u be APC paraku and u know it.
Re: Opinion About The Attack On Tinubu And Godfatherism by Unik3030: 2:16pm On Sep 27, 2020
sapoyoro:
hahahaa
tell me what is worse than not paying salaries and pensions oo thereby throwing Millons of people in to poverty...dat one na omoluabi act abi?
u don check stats, SW states are virtually d most indebted states in Nijaa today.....with virtually nothing to show for it...
APC is better than PDP?
lol..just as APC has been tragedy in the national level so are they in d states...
lol..u think most most SW people will not want to back to when they are buying cup of rice for 30 naira under PDP than d 100 its sold for now?
or can u tell me exactly anything what SW enjoys right now ahead of everyone else in Nigeria?
lol..u be joke jare mister like most delusional APC supporters...
APC has been a total disaster and sooner or Later they will be weeded out of SW cos most people are tired of the excruciating hardship they have caused..
A pro Yoruba man do not stand with political party or some particular thieving politicians..
he stands solidly and identify with the pains of d ollpolois..
u be APC paraku and u know it.
u are claiming he's an APC man n it's crystal clear u are a PDP man too.
so u are from opposite ends n I see both parties to b d same,so it's like kettle calling pot black.


But mind u those people who want to bring down Tinubu have leaders who are far worse than Tinubu but they ain't saying anything about them,all they want to do is decimate your own thief n praise their own thief.

if not how can a tribe which has Orji Uzor kalu a known thief b silent about his escapades n want him to b president but they want our own thief to b rubbished,bro is that not hypocrisy?

Orji Uzor kalu for president but Tinubu b rubbished,the day I will start taking Igbos stance against corruption serious is the day they start castigating Kalu d same way they castigate Tinubu.

u create a million thread about Tinubu another man's thief but u are silent about your own thief.
Re: Opinion About The Attack On Tinubu And Godfatherism by LegendHero(m): 2:21pm On Sep 27, 2020
sapoyoro:
hahahaa
tell me what is worse than not paying salaries and pensions oo thereby throwing Millons of people in to poverty...dat one na omoluabi act abi?
u don check stats, SW states are virtually d most indebted states in Nijaa today.....with virtually nothing to show for it...
APC is better than PDP?
lol..just as APC has been tragedy in the national level so are they in d states...
lol..u think most most SW people will not want to back to when they are buying cup of rice for 30 naira under PDP than d 100 its sold for now?
or can u tell me exactly anything what SW enjoys right now ahead of everyone else in Nigeria?
lol..u be joke jare mister like most delusional APC supporters...
APC has been a total disaster and sooner or Later they will be weeded out of SW cos most people are tired of the excruciating hardship they have caused..
A pro Yoruba man do not stand with political party or some particular thieving politicians..
he stands solidly and identify with the pains of d ollpolois..
u be APC paraku and u know it.
Like it told you, this is a comparative analysis between the SW states that have been ruled by both parties and I ain’t talking about the federal scenes here because politics is local.

Let’s take Oyo state.
During the days of Baba Adedibu and his hold on PDP, what did we actually gained? Ibadan is the home of thugs then with all those NURTW wreaking havocs and with no meaningful development other than to share money.

When Ajimobi came, there is difference and you won’t even compare him to the days of the PDP when talking about infrastructure and development. What about Amosun of Ogun state compared to Gbenga Daniels? Or should we go to Ekiti and compare Fayemi to Fayose that have soiled the state name with stomach infrastructure nonsense that is insulting the good name of Ekiti people. If you’re being truthful you’ll see what I’m saying.

You know the sustainability index rating is relative and it has to do with the fact that the SW governors are spending too much on their recurrent expenditure which calls for concern. It’s not only about loan servicing alone but it’s about our over bloated civil service and need attention.

Take Ogun for example, that state, Lagos, and Abuja are the only states that generate more IGR than what they receive from the Federal allocation among the 36 states. Sustainability index can change tomorrow coz it’s not a true measure of scenario. BudgIT are just using that as their own terms to put government on their toes.

Below is 2018 sustainability index from the same BudgIT, can you see that the 3 SW states are among the top ten? Ogun, Ondo, And Lagos.

Source: https://yourbudgit.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/State-of-State-2018-Final-Print-Copy.pdf

2021 now you can see those states changing position because the rating changes fast so you shouldn’t be drunk on the rating.

Re: Opinion About The Attack On Tinubu And Godfatherism by celeiyke: 2:23pm On Sep 27, 2020
ThatFairGuy1:
In simple analogy
What U don't know is Ekweremadu is loved.
Re: Opinion About The Attack On Tinubu And Godfatherism by LegendHero(m): 2:28pm On Sep 27, 2020
izombie:
simple. He should've stayed out of it. He was just shown in Edo that he has no pull outside the south west states. Next is to invade south west and also show him he has no hold there too until finally, Lagos will also be taken from him. We must release afonjas from tinubu.
Azikwe tried the same format but perished with his thought.

Since you guys haven’t learnt from your history, you can continue to thread the path of failure your ancestors followed!
Re: Opinion About The Attack On Tinubu And Godfatherism by LegendHero(m):
[quote author=howiwonder post=94367294][/quote]Have you started giving people fake likes too with your job of cancelling abi how the bleep is my likes increasing on a thread without no viewers?

Come and cancel this one too, I pray Allah shows his grace upon you and rid you from the spirit of restlessness.
Re: Opinion About The Attack On Tinubu And Godfatherism by twodee75: 3:09pm On Sep 27, 2020
LegendHero:
AD is just alive on paper because most of its adherents are now scattered in AC which metamorphosed to ACN/APC.

When I’m taking about APC, I am not talking about the federal here. My talks are based on the SW so don’t get me wrong.

Even a 5year old child knows APC is a combination of different parties in the Federal scenes.
Bros, You can't say AD is alive on paper, AD idologies are quite different from the APC agenda, ACN was formed out of political selfishness.
AD adopted Pa Awolowo's idealogy to provide conducive life in all sectors. That was what Jakande followed by building series of Low cost housing estate across Lagos within 3 yrs, not pple who built house for masses and ask u to pay N15m...so Bros... ACN nor APC or PDP has the same idologies with AD
Re: Opinion About The Attack On Tinubu And Godfatherism by LegendHero(m): 3:27pm On Sep 27, 2020
twodee75:
Bros, You can't say AD is alive on paper, AD idologies are quite different from the APC agenda, ACN was formed out of political selfishness.
AD adopted Pa Awolowo's idealogy to provide conducive life in all sectors. That was what Jakande followed by building series of Low cost housing estate across Lagos within 3 yrs, not pple who built house for masses and ask u to pay N15m...so Bros... ACN nor APC or PDP has the same idologies with AD
Well you have your own point of view although most of the SW governors also built low cost housing estates and they can argue along that line.

AC was formed because the AD elders are sleeping and there is a need for modification to make the movement survive especially when OBJ swept the SW states and inturn win over some of those AD guys. There need to be a resistance and that was how ACN had to form and normally you won’t expect AD to still be whole.

The split started during the days of Senator Moji Akinfenwa and Baba Akande period that time in 2006 or so which led to the formation of AC while Moji Akinfenwa retained AD as the name.

Now AC/ACN/APC SW is at least now pulling the Yorubas somehow systematically from our long history of opposition politics and trying to give us a leverage in the center.

If the Baba Akande faction had not done anything then, OBJ would have killed AD patapata and by now we will just be nobody in PDP because we are numerically at a disadvantage in the south when you talk about PDP.

Even at that, maybe I’m being biased but I am very sure AC/ACN/APC caucus produce better governors in the SW than their PDP counterpart on average.
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