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Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by seunmsg(m): 5:02pm On Oct 03, 2020
If we have a President and a Prime Minister and we share responsibilities between these two so that one is not an appendage to the other. For examples, if the President controls the Army and the Prime Minister controls the Police. If the President controls resources likes oil and mining and the Prime Minister controls finance and inland revenue, taxes, customs etc. You just divide responsibilities between the two.

“At the state level, you have the governor and the premier, and the same way, you distribute responsibilities these people in such a manner that one cannot really go without the other. Maybe we might begin to tackle the problems.

“If we are going to adopt the model, then we need to urgently restore the House of Chiefs. I have a feeling that one of our major problems is that we have pushed the traditional rulers to the background and I believe that is a grave error.

The part in bold is a recipe for chaos and confusion, it won’t work. However, I am glad that Adeboye actually offered real ideas on how to restructure the country unlike other restructuring advocates. We need more people to define the kind of structure we need to adopt. We can then put all the ideas together and fashion a way forward for the country.

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by Afamed: 5:12pm On Oct 03, 2020
imhotep:

Adeboye has finally joined IPOB, and Asiwaju Jagaban will not like this.


Meanwhile, afamed, lzaa, bambambiglo and t9ksy must hear this.
Tinubu has been tomenting this one since time immemorial. Wail no more Obiagwu boys

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by Uchek(m): 5:17pm On Oct 03, 2020
Wetin concern Igbos in this issue.




NeverBrokeAgainG:
This One is Still talking about Restructuring When We can Do Better as Separate Nations.

#BiafraExit.

Beside, Who is Watching The Azerbaijan Armies as They are Boldly Lunching Offensive and Retaking their Territories From The Armenian Soldiers??


I hope My Igbo Brethren Can Learn One or Two things from Them?

You don't loose or Leave your territory For your Enemies or loose it because the people in it want to beLeft alone
Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by Daddysidhan: 5:17pm On Oct 03, 2020
Buharis nepotistic behaviour causes all this clamouring, he threw common sense off the window by ruling this country as never seen before.

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by farem: 5:19pm On Oct 03, 2020
NgwalandAbia:


Look at you that can't even write a simple English talking trash, What is Don in english?

None voted for him, take that to your english teacher.

It shows you are an alien to the language you are marking.
If DON is a wrong English, how come SUFFER is there without flagging?

I am sending my little basic 3 pupil to engage you.
Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by Charmingrascal(m): 5:19pm On Oct 03, 2020
Many Nigerians are tired of "One Nigeria" pls let everyone go.

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by openbusiness6: 5:20pm On Oct 03, 2020
Restructuring cannot work. Nigeria has practiced "true federalism" before which is = restructuring and there were still problems and political agitations and conflict. The only solution right now is self determination. Let those that want to take their destiny into their own hands and have their own country do so. We can still be collecting visa from ourselves. There's nothing bad in Nigeria breaking up, it is not a crime and it's not a death sentence. I don't know why people oppose that idea blindly. Before the British came and merged us together, were the various tribes not existing and living in their respective lands and territories by themselves? So why do people nowadays make it seem like if Nigeria breaks, it's like someone has dropped a nuclear bomb on our heads? For me, I think it's only the political elite and the 1% extremely wealthy class that control the economy, that want Nigeria to continue and I understand why they want it like that.

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by NgwalandAbia(m): 5:22pm On Oct 03, 2020
farem:


It shows you are an alien to the language you are marking.
If DON is a wrong English, how come SUFFER is there without flagging?

I am sending my little basic 3 pupil to engage you.

What is DON in English I asked again? Either you explain or keep quiet, I don't argue with Nigerians with 15 percent IQ.

Don is defined as a Spanish title used to refer to a gentleman, or is a term used to describe a leader in an organized-crime family. An example of Don is the title used to refer to a Spanish gentleman
Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by slivertongue: 5:24pm On Oct 03, 2020
We all know that we must restructure. It is either we restructure or we break, you don’t have to be a prophet to know that one. That is certain – restructure or we break up.

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by Marine54(m): 5:39pm On Oct 03, 2020
slivertongue:
We all know that we must restructure. It is either we restructure or we break, you don’t have to be a prophet to know that one. That is certain – restructure or we break up.
Restructuring can not work. , the time for restructuring has past !

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by Guestlander: 5:44pm On Oct 03, 2020
muykem:
That system of government you suggest will be worst sir. Africa love power, you will just be seeing police and army engaging in guns battle everytime. What we don't realise is that our problem is us not system of government or few leaders.

Our problem is strictly the system. We have the most chaotic system I have ever seen. We have laws that are not enforced, sometimes you wonder if we have a government at all. The people elsewhere are not angels, they are just less likely to get away with what most Nigerians get away with on a daily. So much that we now consider these things are normal.

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by nameo: 5:57pm On Oct 03, 2020
helinues:
Restructuring in Nigeria not feasible at least for now

Don't be deceived

Why for goodness sake??

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by joker111: 6:11pm On Oct 03, 2020
He finally spoke...

Meanwhile visit www.sumpis.com

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by porka: 6:13pm On Oct 03, 2020
Lebanon is already practices something very close to this proposed model. And what is the situation there right now?

The choice for Nigeria is between; 1) the practice of real democracy where leaders are rewarded for good performance with additional terms or purnished for poor performance with rejection at the polls. This is the best option and leads to tremendous progress within the shortest possible time. Democracy will take Nigeria very far. If leaders are shown that they can quickly become liabilities and discarded by the people, things will really shape out very quickly. Many people think this is not possible, but it is actually possible.

2) Succumbed to fascism, where the 'leader' is the supreme and lord of his subjects. He uses religion or quasi irreligious platitudes to intimidate them and shut them up while showing the world that he is doing aesthetics (flowers planted, and other useless stuffs without any tangible benefits to human life) that may not last the test of time. This option is popular within a particular religious circle and those who always tout Rwanda as example. This option is particularly fascinating for some Nigerians who really believe that a form of dictatorial leadership is the best for them. When you point them to the brutal military dictatorships in the past, they seem not able to reconcile their hypotheses.

3) The last choice is the break-up option. It is the most painful choice and most unpopular among the 'peaceful' citizens. Majority feels a break-up is not achievable without bloodshed. While many break-ups have been very bloody, there are many examples for guidance. The recent Brexit is a very good example of how to achieve seperation without firing a single shot. Some will argue that the situation is different and those who are involved are more mature. But they failed to realize that Nigeria's independence was painstakingly negotiated with the British by Nigerians themselves without any physical uprising like many other countries in Africa. It was a divorce. It was a separation. And it was peacefully done. If we can achieve that more than 60 years ago, nothing says negotiations can't be done better now.

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by Raydos: 6:14pm On Oct 03, 2020
Flier:
I still think Pastors shouldn’t get involve in this argument

Really? Because he is not a citizen of Nigerian just like you right??

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by muykem: 6:28pm On Oct 03, 2020
Guestlander:


Our problem is strictly the system. We have the most chaotic system I have ever seen. We have laws that are not enforced, sometimes you wonder if we have a government at all. The people elsewhere are not angels, they are just less likely to get away with what most Nigerians get away with on a daily. So much that we now consider these things are normal.
Thank God your submission agreed with me. We have laws not enforcing. Who will enforce it, people or system?
Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by Zoe99(f): 7:16pm On Oct 03, 2020
Flier:
I still think Pastors shouldn’t get involve in this argument
They're individuals first before pastors.Everyone is entitled to their opinion. In his case though, his making his opinion public could greatly influence his congregation.

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by farem: 7:21pm On Oct 03, 2020
NgwalandAbia:


What is DON in English I asked again? Either you explain or keep quiet, I don't argue with Nigerians with 15 percent IQ.

Don is defined as a Spanish title used to refer to a gentleman, or is a term used to describe a leader in an organized-crime family. An example of Don is the title used to refer to a Spanish gentleman

People here are laughing at your boneheadness
Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by Qsand: 8:05pm On Oct 03, 2020
Hehe
Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by blacknp(m): 9:39pm On Oct 03, 2020
slivertongue:
We all know that we must restructure. It is either we restructure or we break, you don’t have to be a prophet to know that one. That is certain – restructure or we break up.
You better go and apply for visa, and leave Nigeria, no break up of Nigeria will happen in your lifetime, the Military will take over power, to protect the sovereignty of Nigeria as mandated by the Constitution, what you should be agitating for is return to Military Rule, since democracy has failed us.
Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by blacknp(m): 9:44pm On Oct 03, 2020
porka:
Lebanon is already practices something very close to this proposed model. And what is the situation there right now?

The choice for Nigeria is between; 1) the practice of real democracy where leaders are rewarded for good performance with additional terms or purnished for poor performance with rejection at the polls. This is the best option and leads to tremendous progress within the shortest possible time. Democracy will take Nigeria very far. If leaders are shown that they can quickly become liabilities and discarded by the people, things will really shape out very quickly. Many people think this is not possible, but it is actually possible.

2) Succumbed to fascism, where the 'leader' is the supreme and lord of his subjects. He uses religion or quasi irreligious platitudes to intimidate them and shut them up while showing the world that he is doing aesthetics (flowers planted, and other useless stuffs without any tangible benefits to human life) that may not last the test of time. This option is popular within a particular religious circle and those who always tout Rwanda as example. This option is particularly fascinating for some Nigerians who really believe that a form of dictatorial leadership is the best for them. When you point them to the brutal military dictatorships in the past, they seem not able to reconcile their hypotheses.

3) The last choice is the break-up option. It is the most painful choice and most unpopular among the 'peaceful' citizens. Majority feels a break-up is not achievable without bloodshed. While many break-ups have been very bloody, there are many examples for guidance. The recent Brexit is a very good example of how to achieve seperation without firing a single shot. Some will argue that the situation is different and those who are involved are more mature. But they failed to realize that Nigeria's independence was painstakingly negotiated with the British by Nigerians themselves without any physical uprising like many other countries in Africa. It was a divorce. It was a separation. And it was peacefully done. If we can achieve that more than 60 years ago, nothing says negotiations can't be done better now.
None of the 3 options will happen, when the Nigerian people get tired of this so called wasteful democrazy, they will call for the return of Military Rule.
Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by Nobody: 9:54pm On Oct 03, 2020
It ain't working...We no want do restructuring again..we just need to break this particular Table and Construct New ones..Just split the country make every body dey him dey.

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by anonimi: 9:56pm On Oct 03, 2020
Guestlander:
The current system can only lead Nigeria to balkanizatioon. It doesn't work for the majority of Nigerians.

Is he speaking for himself or for who?


anonimi:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/10991306_unnamed_jpegeb81ef0de119b1bcb59ef5b3f061480c

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by Samsimple(m): 9:57pm On Oct 03, 2020
Na wa ohhhh

. check my signature for designs
Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by Misterdhee1(m): 10:00pm On Oct 03, 2020
NeverBrokeAgainG:
This One is Still talking about Restructuring When We can Do Better as Separate Nations.

#BiafraExit.

Beside, Who is Watching The Azerbaijan Armies as They are Boldly Lunching Offensive and Retaking their Territories From The Armenian Soldiers??


I hope My Igbo Brethren Can Learn One or Two things from Them?

You don't loose or Leave your territory For your Enemies or loose it because the people in it want to beLeft alone
Stop giving yourself false hopes. Restructuring is far more viable than breakup. Nigeria is here to stay, whether we like it or not.

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by Nobody: 10:01pm On Oct 03, 2020
Nobody is breaking up, maybe later but not now, Buhari must finish his tenure before you all can talk about breaking up or restructuring.
We are one Nigeria!

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by Nobody: 10:02pm On Oct 03, 2020
Misterdhee1:

Stop giving yourself false hopes. Restructuring is far more viable than breakup. Nigeria is here to stay, whether we like it or not.
Yea, you're right.

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by wolesam: 10:02pm On Oct 03, 2020
Restructuring is a big burden to them

Breakup is visible. Let everyone face and fix his part. Starting from $1 to 1 whichever currency chosen, tight security, better education, good economy etc
Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by omooba969(m): 10:03pm On Oct 03, 2020
Food for our SE ppl. grin

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: Restructure Or Risk Breakup Of Nigeria by AbuAeesha: 10:04pm On Oct 03, 2020
Flier:
I still think Pastors shouldn’t get involve in this argument
I think they should wen it became necessary

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