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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by LabuleofNigeria: 9:55am On Oct 16, 2020
Kingsaeedibn:



Is it through fighting that Nigeria was liberated from her colonial masters? Or is it through protest and mounting blockades?
Stupid ediot. When you are not educated.

How would you understand?

Idiot. the freedom you are enjoying today was fought for by some. omo ale jatijati

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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by pandabet(m): 9:56am On Oct 16, 2020
Kingsuave:
But muslims can take up arms and fight, kill and maim infidels for allah grin grin

But to fight for your rights and that of your children is a "Shirk" shocked i hail ohh
grin grin grin
very useless and hypocritical set of bigot

religion of peace indeed

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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Kingsaeedibn: 9:58am On Oct 16, 2020
AllOfUsAtManna:
really?

ok ooo
zelekete yakabana Insha'Allah amin

I guess you've heard about Arab Spring
i wonder which version of Islam una dey practice for Nigeria sef? grin
so you're telling me you're more Muslim than those people that did Arab spring that enjoys the benefits today?
why not confine yourself inside the mosque naa since you virtually don't do anything grin


You probably Hausa..90% of Hausa are izala and sufi.. am not surprised with the nonsense you saying.


Muslims take knowledge from Quran and Hadith NOT from a site or a scholar.


Am a Muslim who practices my religion according to how prophet did. I am ahlu sunnah wa jammah.

My brothers are imam Ahmad bin hanbal, Muhammad bin abdul Wahab and others till the scholar we have here in Nigeria.

Muhammad Ali Jabata
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Yahksbiz(m): 9:58am On Oct 16, 2020
why are these people so hypocritical...... most of muslim Malams are the problem Nigeria is having today.

just imagine such post.. unbelievable. like he was paid to do it.

sometimes I wonder if Islam should be in politics...
once it isn't going their way. they will know where they Quran and Hadiths are and start preaching old life stuff.

when jonathan won elections were there not protest all over..... and lot more of such thing in Muslim state...

in fact I am hurt reading this....
I will rather go with Jesus teaching on people in authority then descend to this.

painful so painful

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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by FILEBE(m): 9:59am On Oct 16, 2020
Kingsaeedibn:
Protest, Rebellion, Openly criticism of the government is Shirk in Islam. it's kufru and it's bidah.

This is a trait of khawarij. It's the trait of the Boko Haram.

Like my knowledgeable scholars do say.. always refer everything back to Allah and his prophet. Let's see some hadiths on this topic


But when you are banned from wearing Hijabs and entering the mosque... you will lead a protest. Wouldnt you?

The war which the Prophet fought is called what? That's a form of protest after he had fled from them and they still came for him.
Same can be likened to this protest. We have been killed we didn't do anything , now they push us to the wall and you are saying we shouldn't fight back with the only weapon we have which is our voices?

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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by BalogunIdowu(m): 10:00am On Oct 16, 2020
Let us know that there are issues which have different scholarly views and which ever one you decide to follow is good for you.

Especially when it comes to issues daily affairs, everything is permissible except it is mentioned to be forbidden but when it is about worship, everything is forbidden except it is mentioned as allowed.

May Allah continue to guide us aright, these are not major issues of the numerous ones we need to Soro soke on in islam.

Allah knows best.

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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Yahksbiz(m): 10:00am On Oct 16, 2020
LabuleofNigeria:


Idiot. the freedom you are enjoying today was fought for by some. omo ale jatijati

don't mind them
he is paid

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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by tollyboy5(m): 10:00am On Oct 16, 2020
Kingsaeedibn:



Is it through fighting that Nigeria was liberated from her colonial masters? Or is it through protest and mounting blockades?
Stupid ediot. When you are not educated.

How would you understand?
We all know Nigeria was not liberated thats why it was easy to grant us independence. Compare our progress with those who fought and died for independence they've gone beyond us.
When your oppressors gives u freedom with a smile and your not suspicious then you're ignorant. The power giving to the north is what is causing today protest. You think you're talking to aboki ?
undecided you're the one that need to read

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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Yahksbiz(m): 10:03am On Oct 16, 2020
Kingsaeedibn:



You probably Hausa..90% of Hausa are izala and sufi.. am not surprised with the nonsense you saying.


Muslims take knowledge from Quran and Hadith NOT from a site or a scholar.


Am a Muslim who practices my religion according to how prophet did. I am ahlu sunnah wa jammah.

My brothers are imam Ahmad bin hanbal, Muhammad bin abdul Wahab and others till the scholar we have here in Nigeria.

Muhammad Ali Jabata

please stop this....
heaven is not for only Muslims....
Don't start thinking you are too holy....

check around and see which muslim country is in good peace today?

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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Nobody: 10:03am On Oct 16, 2020
Kingsaeedibn:



Are we talking about holy war here but democracy?

Muslims can only take up arms when commanded by our Amir... And we don't have Amir for now.


There's several conditions for fighting kufar.. go read..

When the time comes and am alive...Insha Allah.. I will kill scores of those disbelievers. Those fools that turn their backs on their creator and worship HIS creations
Stupid terrorist. The only language your dull brain understands is killing, violence.

So, it's not surprising you condemn peaceful protests and dialogue.

Islamic fundamentalism (as exemplified by your posts here) is one of the core issues affecting world peace today.

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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Kingsaeedibn: 10:05am On Oct 16, 2020
FILEBE:



But when you are banned from wearing Hijabs and entering the mosque... you will lead a protest. Wouldnt you?

The war which the Prophet fought is called what? That's a form of protest after he had flees from them and they still came for him.
Same can be likened to this protest. We have been killed we didn't do anything , now they push us to the wall and you are saying we shouldn't fight back?

Protest? Nah..

If a country becomes unstable and unsuitable for Muslims to practice his or her religion. It becomes a must for that Muslim to perform HIJRAH to a suitable country.

Muslims were been persecuted and killed in Madinah.. prophet didn't revolt or call for revolution or protest or Rebel even though the leaders then are kufar..

He did HIJRAH to MUSLIMS country or settlement..

How do you think muhajirun and ansar came about? What do you know about treaty of hudaibiyah?




Go read. As an educated fellow.. you should have knowledge about a topic before divulging into it

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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Kingsaeedibn: 10:05am On Oct 16, 2020
Dabb01:

Stupid terrorist. The only language your dull brain understands is killing, violence.

So, it's not surprising you condemn peaceful protests and dialogue.

Islamic fundamentalism (as exemplified by your posts here) is one of the core issues affecting world peace today.

You are only ranting not learning

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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Kingsaeedibn: 10:06am On Oct 16, 2020
Yahksbiz:


please stop this....
heaven is not for only Muslims....
Don't start thinking you are too holy....

check around and see which muslim country is in good peace today?


Allah said, Paradise is forbidden for kufar.
Allah said, you must not die except you a Muslim.



Islam is the only religion on earth. Others are conjectures

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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by FILEBE(m): 10:08am On Oct 16, 2020
Kingsaeedibn:
Those you see protesting.. that you think they are Muslims..

They may dress like us.. look like us.. but they are not part of us..

They're not Muslims but Factionists.. They Belong to certain sects.. Be it acadip or mssn or tmc or muric and others like them


MUSLIMS DO NOT VOTE
MUSLIMS DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN ELECTION
MUSLIMS DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN POLITICAL POSTS
MUSLIMS DO NOT REBEL AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT/LEADERS except the leader indulges in Shirk and the Muslim nation has the power
to remove him and replace him with a Muslim




I want to believe you are being sarcastic . If you aren't then you are not saying the right thing at all. Who exactly did this to Islam? Do you realize that there are other religion in the world apart from Islam? If Almighty willing, he could have made Islam the only religion in the world but here we are ...
As long as we have other religions in this world. We have to respect them and their choices as long it doesn't infringe on your rights. Don't you quote the verse where it is said that " their religion is theirs and mine is mine". As a Muslim , you have every right to participate in governance.

Before Religoon be human first.

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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Kingsaeedibn: 10:08am On Oct 16, 2020
tollyboy5:

We all know Nigeria was not liberated thats why it was easy to grant us independence. Compare our progress with those who fought and died for independence they've gone beyond us.
When your oppressors gives u freedom with a smile and your not suspicious then you're ignorant. The power giving to the north is what is causing today protest. You think you're talking to aboki ?
undecided you're the one that need to read


Fought and died for our independence through


PROTEST
CRITICISM OF THE GOVERNMENT (BRITISH)OPENLY
STARTING BLOCKADES

abi..

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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Yahksbiz(m): 10:08am On Oct 16, 2020
Kingsaeedibn:



Are we talking about holy war here but democracy?

Muslims can only take up arms when commanded by our Amir... And we don't have Amir for now.


There's several conditions for fighting kufar.. go read..

When the time comes and am alive...Insha Allah.. I will kill scores of those disbelievers. Those fools that turn their backs on their creator and worship HIS creations

fire will rust you for this your auterance....
even muhammad isn't happy with you...
and even you will life to see that time it is your fellow muslim that will kill you

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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by haibeehae: 10:08am On Oct 16, 2020
Lukgaf:
As for the duty of forbidding evil and how it is to be carried out, then the principle is as follows:

1. Forbidding evil with the hand is for the rulers and those in authority such as the courts and the police appointed by the ruler.

2. Forbidding evil with speech is for the scholars of Sunnah and those with knowledge (and not pretenders who claim they know!).

3. Hating evil with one’s heart is for everyone to whom the truth has reached from the general folk.

As for boycotting products and goods, then one should only do so if the ruler has commanded with that or the great scholars of Sunnah with the authority given to them by the Muslim rulers. Writing to advise the oppressive ruler should be done in private whilst showing gentleness and concern, free from rude and wicked speech. Also one may approach a government minister or scholar who can in turn advise those in authority. A worker may approach his employer directly, or complain to the leaders in government about mistreatment. This is the balanced and orderly method of rectification whilst maintaining patience and supplicating to Allah.


Jazaakumu Llahu akhiy. This is a beautiful effort on your part to explain clearly this from the lens of the Sunnah. But, I will really appreciate, if we can get textual evidences that support the above three points mentioned.
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Kingsaeedibn: 10:08am On Oct 16, 2020
Yahksbiz:


fire will rust you for this your auterance....
even muhammad isn't happy with you...
and even you will life to see that time it is your fellow muslim that will kill you

Stop ranting
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by supercase1(m): 10:09am On Oct 16, 2020
Lukgaf:
As for the duty of forbidding evil and how it is to be carried out, then the principle is as follows:

1. Forbidding evil with the hand is for the rulers and those in authority such as the courts and the police appointed by the ruler.

2. Forbidding evil with speech is for the scholars of Sunnah and those with knowledge (and not pretenders who claim they know!).

3. Hating evil with one’s heart is for everyone to whom the truth has reached from the general folk.

As for boycotting products and goods, then one should only do so if the ruler has commanded with that or the great scholars of Sunnah with the authority given to them by the Muslim rulers. Writing to advise the oppressive ruler should be done in private whilst showing gentleness and concern, free from rude and wicked speech. Also one may approach a government minister or scholar who can in turn advise those in authority. A worker may approach his employer directly, or complain to the leaders in government about mistreatment. This is the balanced and orderly method of rectification whilst maintaining patience and supplicating to Allah.
Muslims and their taqqiya cheesy you people will never cease to amaze me and others sane humans grin
anyway u are doing a good job.defending zombies and fanatics isn't an eazy job cheesy

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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by konkonbilo(m): 10:09am On Oct 16, 2020
Gosh!!!! Sometimes common sense isn't common. God gave us brain for a reason, that's why Africa and Nigeria particular is still 100 years behind because we refuse to use our brains. See the progress of other countries and someone is somewhere telling us not to use our brain.

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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Nobody: 10:10am On Oct 16, 2020
Kingsaeedibn:


Protest? Nah..

If a country becomes unstable and unsuitable for Muslims to practice his or her religion. It becomes a must for that Muslim to perform HIJRAH to a suitable country.

Muslims were been persecuted and killed in Madinah.. prophet didn't revolt or call for revolution or protest or Rebel even though the leaders then are kufar..

He did HIJRAH to MUSLIMS country or settlement..

How do you think muhajirun and ansar came about? What do you know about treaty of hudaibiyah?




Go read. As an educated fellow.. you should have knowledge about a topic before divulging into it
Go and read the history of your prophet again. He never revolted or protested because he was the minority with only a handful of followers at that period.

But when he got more followers, won some wars (to defend Islam), and became established, he and his sahabah started attacking other kingdoms, telling them to accept Islam or be ready for war.

Islam was purely spread by the sword. Only those ignorant of Muhammad's history don't know that.

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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Yahksbiz(m): 10:10am On Oct 16, 2020
Kingsaeedibn:

Stop ranting
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Kingsaeedibn: 10:10am On Oct 16, 2020
FILEBE:





I want to believe you are being sarcastic . If you aren't then you are not saying the right thing at all. Who exactly did this to Islam? Do you realize that there are other religion in the world apart from Islam? If Almighty willing, he could have made Islam the only religion in the world but here we are ...
As long as we have other religions in this world. We have to respect them and their choices as long it doesn't infringe on your rights. Don't you quote the verse where it is said that " their religion is theirs and mine is mine". As a Muslim , you have every right to participate in governance.

Before Religoon be human first.


As a Muslim. Am obliged to follow only the rule of Allah.

And Allah forbids me to believe in any other religion or man made rules..


And Islam is the only religion. That's what all prophet practiced

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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Yahksbiz(m): 10:10am On Oct 16, 2020
Kingsaeedibn:

Stop ranting
Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Nobody: 10:11am On Oct 16, 2020
Kingsaeedibn:




When the time comes and am alive...Insha Allah.. I will kill scores of those disbelievers. Those fools that turn their backs on their creator and worship HIS creations
grin grin

So you mean to tell us that your allah is powerless against "those unbelievers" as you've mentioned, so he assigned bigots like you to kill for him. grin grin

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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by FILEBE(m): 10:11am On Oct 16, 2020
Kingsaeedibn:


Protest? Nah..

If a country becomes unstable and unsuitable for Muslims to practice his or her religion. It becomes a must for that Muslim to perform HIJRAH to a suitable country.

Muslims were been persecuted and killed in Madinah.. prophet didn't revolt or call for revolution or protest or Rebel even though the leaders then are kufar..

He did HIJRAH to MUSLIMS country or settlement..

How do you think muhajirun and ansar came about? What do you know about treaty of hudaibiyah?




Go read. As an educated fellow.. you should have knowledge about a topic before divulging into it



The wars the prophet led. Please explain the cause. The war that angels fought with him, the war he fought with few men and he won. The war others have led for Islam. Explain pls.

The war Usmad Dan folio fought . Or isn't there a verse in the Quran called spoils of war? Where it was explained how war should be fought and the spoils be shared?

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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Yahksbiz(m): 10:11am On Oct 16, 2020
Kingsaeedibn:


Stop ranting
Kingsaeedibn:


Stop ranting

you think you are the only Muslim worshipping God ba....

I am a muslim too but I am disgraced at what you have turn into..... you and God and islam is far from each other

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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Kingsaeedibn: 10:12am On Oct 16, 2020
Dabb01:

Go and read the history of your prophet again. He never revolted or protested because he was the minority with only a handful of followers at that period.

But when he got more followers, won some wars (to defend Islam), and became established, he and his sahabah started attacking other kingdoms, telling them to accept Islam or be ready for war.

Islam was purely spread by the sword. Only those ignorant of Muhammad's history don't know that.


Now you are coming close..


We Muslims are minority here.

If we are majority... That means we have the power to remove and install a Muslim as a leader.


That's exactly what the hadith I posted earlier is talking about



And Muslims do not just rush to wars.. it has conditions to be met before fighting the kufar.

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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by supercase1(m): 10:13am On Oct 16, 2020
Kingsaeedibn:



Are we talking about holy war here but democracy?

Muslims can only take up arms when commanded by our Amir... And we don't have Amir for now.


There's several conditions for fighting kufar.. go read..

When the time comes and am alive...Insha Allah.. I will kill scores of those disbelievers. Those fools that turn their backs on their creator and worship HIS creations
we are waiting for you with our Aks pump action and bolt action rifles,e go red for una bastards.u people including your useless Mohammed CAN DO NOTHING cheesy cheesy

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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Kingsaeedibn: 10:13am On Oct 16, 2020
Yahksbiz:


you think you are the only Muslim worshipping God ba....

I am a muslim too but I am disgraced at what you have turn into..... you and God and islam is far from each other

Muslim that's supporting protest is never a Muslim

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Re: #EndSARS: Protests, Demonstrations And Civil Disobedience In The Light Of Islam by Kingsaeedibn: 10:13am On Oct 16, 2020
supercase1:

am we are waiting for you with our pump actions and bolt action rifles,e go red for una bastards.u people including your useless Mohammed CAN DO NOTHING cheesy cheesy

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