Cyberknight:


Exactly.
I've had the opportunity to work in both Ivory Coast and Rwanda (post-conflict issues) and we all know what happens when conflict burst out. Na to grab what you can and get out.

For those blithely saying that: "Oh, if Nigeria divides, you sell the land na", do you really think that the property market will assign a non-Yoruba in Lagos for example, fair or close to fair value for property they have to sell because they have become foreign nationals overnight? Really?

I own a couple of pieces of land in Lagos, which I have basically discounted, even though I am not selling, given that I really think that they could be lost to me at any point in time, because I see Nigeria falling apart at some point and I do not see Tinubu, whichever Hausa man and whichever Igbo or Niger Delta man sitting down calmly at a negotiating table to discuss the planned movement of peoples and transfer of assets across the new borders.

In such event, instead it will be India 1947 replaying on the world's TV screens.

Cyberknight:


Exactly.
I've had the opportunity to work in both Ivory Coast and Rwanda (post-conflict issues) and we all know what happens when conflict burst out. Na to grab what you can and get out.

For those blithely saying that: "Oh, if Nigeria divides, you sell the land na", do you really think that the property market will assign a non-Yoruba in Lagos for example, fair or close to fair value for property they have to sell because they have become foreign nationals overnight? Really?

I own a couple of pieces of land in Lagos, which I have basically discounted, even though I am not selling, given that I really think that they could be lost to me at any point in time, because I see Nigeria falling apart at some point and I do not see Tinubu, whichever Hausa man and whichever Igbo or Niger Delta man sitting down calmly at a negotiating table to discuss the planned movement of peoples and transfer of assets across the new borders.

In such event, instead it will be India 1947 replaying on the world's TV screens.

ahiboilandgas:
south Easters will be the greatest loser on property cos the own more out their home land ...

emmanuelewumi:



So foreigners don't have real estate Investments in Nigeria.


Indians, Lebaneses, Americans, Chinese, South Africans and others have real estate Investments in Nigeria and they are getting rental income from their Investments.

ahiboilandgas:
south Easters will be the greatest loser on property cos the own more out their home land ...

MrMcJay:
If you are in Lagos, nothing would happen to your property. There is a reason Dangote put his refinery in Lagos and nowhere else.

If you are afraid of takeover of your property, incorporate a Company in which you're a director and transfer ownership of the property to the Company. Thereafter, process your Title from the government in the name of the Company.

Cyberknight:


Of course they do.
Which still doesn't mean its not going to happen.
Everyone is just trying to survive this government till 2023, but anything could happen at any time.
Make no mistake about it, Nigeria more than ticks all the boxes for conditions prevailing in other countries than succumbed to conflict, and in this case the utter incompetence of the government is now a contributory factor.

emmanuelewumi:



Read, read and read.

A lot of secrets, information, ideas and many more are hidden inside books.

Have a policy of reading at least 3 books in a month, it is very good for your mind

Cyberknight:
Lol.
The primitive sentiments (on all sides) that pushed Nigeria into the 1967 - 70 conflict are still very much alive and well in 2020.
Lagos included.
All governments have not helped with this their lousy state of origin policy which is stupid.

ahiboilandgas:
So since u are very very sure why are ibo still investing endlessly in Lagos ,Abuja and Kano .....the entire mile 2 to ojo properties are bern developed by ibo like wise over 60 percent of properties in Abuja and new properties in kano (over 50 new hotels in Sabon gari)....does this show sense at all?

handsomebolanle:


As for me...Kindly reccomend some for me sir... I'm passionate of knowledge too....

MrMcJay:


For every problem, there is a solution and for every solution, there is a problem.
If Nigeria splits, some people would lose and some people won't. You can't help it. You own is to ensure that you don't lose what is yours.

If you intend holding real estate for a very long time, buy it in the name of a Company and get proper documentation. If you check Osinbajo's Asset declaration documents for instance, what you see majorly there are shares in specific private companies. Those companies were formed to hold assets.

That's an example of how you use the law to protect yourself and your assets.

Cyberknight:


Surely you cannot be asking me to impose my opinion on other people?

ahiboilandgas:
but majority .....young shall grow owns all this parks and properties Nationwide ...if I go to oyinbo and mazamaza this morning we can count over 5000 south easternrrs arriving Lagos with intentions of not going back untill they are 70 years.......what i expect is the reverse ibo moving out of Lagos and never coming back in masses not awaiting.....u waits for a confirmed fire...

ahiboilandgas:
but majority .....young shall grow owns all this parks and properties Nationwide ...if I go to oyinbo and mazamaza this morning we can count over 5000 south easternrrs arriving Lagos with intentions of not going back untill they are 70 years.......what i expect is the reverse ibo moving out of Lagos and never coming back in masses not awaiting.....u waits for a confirmed fire...

Cyberknight:


Surely you cannot be asking me to impose my opinion on other people?

Cyberknight:


Nigerian law.
It didn't work post-1970 when at least the courts were not as compromised as they are now (ask the owners of seized property in Port Harcourt and some in Lagos) and you think it will work in another similar situation?

purleesh:


What's your point exactly?

ahiboilandgas:
but majority .....young shall grow owns all this parks and properties Nationwide ...if I go to oyinbo and mazamaza this morning we can count over 5000 south easternrrs arriving Lagos with intentions of not going back untill they are 70 years.......what i expect is the reverse ibo moving out of Lagos and never coming back in masses not awaiting.....u waits for a confirmed fire...

ahiboilandgas:
have u ever wonder why other Nigerians dont have serious investment in the East ? The scare tactics of forming a ethnic enclave is doing harm to region and drive away investments why will dangote Locate a Refinery in Lagos with no crude......somalia is 100 percent same tribe and race what is happing,How about south Sudan?How about Yugoslavia any better hdi.....any new republic manage by greed driven Nigerians will still produce same result as Old Nigeria....after rall local govt chairman and state government are our kinmen

MrMcJay:


As I told you before, for every problem, there is a solution and for every solution, there is a problem. If you keep looking for solutions, you will get them and if you look for problems, you will also get them.

Can you please mention anybody you know in Lagos who held a property in the name of a COMPANY and the property was seized and not released. Not just blanket claims, mention just a single 1 in Lagos.
Even those held in Lagos in personal names were not seized.

ahiboilandgas:
but majority .....young shall grow owns all this parks and properties Nationwide ...if I go to oyinbo and mazamaza this morning we can count over 5000 south easternrrs arriving Lagos with intentions of not going back untill they are 70 years.......what i expect is the reverse ibo moving out of Lagos and never coming back in masses not awaiting.....u waits for a confirmed fire...

Cyberknight:


Lol.
Again, it is not for me to seek widespread acceptance of my opinion.
That people are apparently not disinvesting and fleeing doesn't have any bearing on what I think.
Secondly, in the same way that people who can afford to are evacuating from Nigeria en masse in the belief that it no longer offers hope and opportunity to they and their children, others are declaring that they will do no such thing and Nigeria will be their homeland forever, while yet others recognize the dangers of a visionless future, but do not want to uproot their lives or cannot do so. Same with the people you mentioned/

Grupo:


Lmao. What type of outrageous statement is this?

Cyberknight:


No need going back and forth with spurious arguments.
I summarise thus: The Nigerian system is broken in all ramifications, and cannot guarantee anything to the ordinary man in normal times, let alone in an exceptional situation that would arise in the aftermath of any breakup.

emmanuelewumi:



Have you read your Bible or Qur'an, that is the starting point

Cyberknight:


And who are these so called "other" Nigerians, and show me the investments they have in other regions outside their own apart from Lagos and Abuja.

For the rest:
Because they don't want to.
Because they buy into the federal government's policy of suppressing development in the east by denying it serious infrastructure.
Because they too are ethnic bigots who do not see why they should "develop" someone else's land.
And as for Dangote's decision to site a refinery in Lagos, had there been any serious port infrastructure development in the ND/east as there should be or a reasonable prospect thereof, that decision would have lacked economic sense.