Oga Ahib, please lets this line of discussion end, it will not be good for this thread I assure you. Just don't reply further... Let's try and stick to economics, data and money.

ahiboilandgas:
Am looking at the number of luxury buses arriving Lagos daily from the East is not a tribalism statement.....northerner are also arriving in same proportions in trucks (but are economic migrants hardly own any asset or intend to stay long in Lagos

ahiboilandgas:
there are more port out Lagos how come Jonathan didnt use the six years and 140 per dollars crude to develop calabar ,warri,onne ,kolo port? Wherr is the ibom deep sea port planned by akwa ibom govt after getting a trillion Naira in revenue......poor leader by Nigerians is responsible while the country is dying the political leaders are progressing materially

Agreed, but we are not discussing politicians and their stupidity here.

ahiboilandgas:
Am looking at the number of luxury buses arriving Lagos daily from the East is not a tribalism statement.....northerner are also arriving in same proportions in trucks (but are economic migrants hardly own any asset or intend to stay long in Lagos

Those people arriving in those buses are people that traveled out of Lagos earlier, days or days weeks earlier to different parts of the country for business, job, etc. The same way they traveled out, that's the same they return in the same bus.

This is something a child should know na. In those buses, only just a few are relocating to Lagos for the first time and permanently. Unless you have conducted a survey or interview to conclude otherwise.

Lol. 5000 * 30 days. That's 150,000 new Easterners in Lagos in one month. Lol. In a year, that's 1.8m new Easterners in Lagos. Lmao. This is the type of thing you say to drunkards in a beer parlor and they will applaud you.

ahiboilandgas:
i don't think so am talking of very wealthy ibo people not poor that have transformed Ago place Ajah ,kubwa and Sabon gari ....my close friend emeka just completed his hotel in kano is called mozida another one built the kano europeans centre all this guys can afford houses in America or put down 200k dollars to migrate by investments.if it general ibo consensus then they should not be buidling those properties ?They should be selling down and moving asset to biafra land .again Nodowka a ibo man from imo has over 7 new 50 bedroom hotel within Apapa all brand new built from 2015 he probably the largest hotelier in Nigeria and must are Located in Lagos so if it a consensus by the ibo why is he still buiding since Nigeria has notting to offer .....

You sir have left the realm of economics,

as an economic adviser to say an ibo man, would u advise him to build a 100 room hotel in his hometown or @ maza maza bus stop in Lagos.........

Even with all the crises fermenting in Lagos we all know ur answer

ojesymsym:
Oga Ahib, please lets this line of discussion end, it will not be good for this thread I assure you. Just don't reply further... Let's try and stick to economics, data and money.

ok am also an economic Migrant to Lagos out side money i will not be in Lagos in next 1 hr for ever ...and Lagos has blessed more people in Nigeria on a final note Nigeria still has something to offer zenith bank share bought in March for 10 naira is now 21 .....thats almost 100 percents .....

ahiboilandgas:
ok am also an economic Migrant to Lagos out side money i will not be in Lagos in next 1 hr for ever ...and Lagos has blessed more people in Nigeria on a final note Nigeria still has something to offer zenith bank share bought in March for 10 naira is now 21 .....thats almost 100 percents .....

At no time was it stated that Nigeria has nothing at all to offer, to some of its people.

In that line of discussion, the assertion was that Nigeria has nothing to offer to the majority of its people.

ahiboilandgas:
Am looking at the number of luxury buses arriving Lagos daily from the East is not a tribalism statement.....northerner are also arriving in same proportions in trucks (but are economic migrants hardly own any asset or intend to stay long in Lagos

Oga get ur narrative right o! The bulk of easterners hardly travel in luxury buses again, luxury buses are now mainly cargo.....


All travels in Nigeria are currently done with hi-ace buses except maybe travelers to north like kaduna

maishai:


You sir have left the realm of economics,

as an economic adviser to say an ibo man, would u advise him to build a 100 room hotel in his hometown or @ maza maza bus stop in Lagos.........

Even with all the crises fermenting in Lagos we all know ur answer

Nigeria elites keep telling subjects that so so is your problem but it not true ...i taught chemistry in omurka village in udi.Lga enugu omurka technical college and no body harass me ,my main tyre supplier is ibo in ogere and main customers outside mnc is ifanyi that supplies aviation fuel ....so I dont know this ethnic hatred in Nigeria keep coming from ....my landlord in Lagos is yoruba while my own tenate is from benin...

Grupo:


Those people arriving in those buses are people that traveled out of Lagos earlier, days or days weeks earlier to different parts of the country for business, job, etc. The same way they traveled out, that's the same they return in the same bus.

This is something a child should know na. In those buses, only just a few are relocating to Lagos for the first time and permanently. Unless you have conducted a survey or interview to conclude otherwise.

Lol. 5000 * 30 days. That's 150,000 new Easterners in Lagos in one month. Lol. In a year, that's 1.8m new Easterners in Lagos. Lmao. This is the type of thing you say to drunkards in a beer parlor and they will applaud you.

na for TVC new o hear ...they said 16 migrants arrive Lagos ever minutes....is even there slogan ...on hailing Lagos ,they also said Lagos has a population of 21m people now and will reach 40m by 2040 ...may be the indigenes of EKO are just 40 percent of the total.....where is the 13m coming from? May be the statistic are wrong or it a propaganda by tvc

Diyke4rich:
Out of curiosity if nigeria divide tomorrow, what will happen to people own properties and investments outsider there state,? abeg we need answer as tension they raise everyday.

Nigeria is NOT dividing

So forget that talk.....
It's not gonna happen

Even if it does hypothetically
Your property is still yours
No one will collect it from you

This is 2020 plus and not 1970

This nationwide protests is a good development, and have shown the Nigerian youths what is possible and what they are capable of

I think Tribalism will be less mainstream going forward (at least among the young ones from say late 30s downwards; as for the old cargoes, most of them are irredeemable)

I hear this protests is leading to mass release of many who were locked up in cell without trial for one year, two years etc.
That is a very wonderful achievement

DexterousOne:
This nationwide protests is a good development, and have shown the Nigerian youths what is possible and what they are capable of

I think Tribalism will be less mainstream going forward (at least among the young ones from say late 30s downwards; as for the old cargoes, most of them are irredeemable)

I hear this protests is leading to mass release of many who were locked up in cell without trial for one year, two years etc.
That is a very wonderful achievement

My dear this protest ended in Lagos and Lekki gates and maybe to some extent Abuja......There are 774 Local government in Nigeria with more than 100,000 wards

Everyone just goes about their normal business and listens out for the outcome of the protest


Nigeria is really bigger than my imagination

DexterousOne:
This nationwide protests is a good development, and have shown the Nigerian youths what is possible and what they are capable of

I think Tribalism will be less mainstream going forward (at least among the young ones from say late 30s downwards; as for the old cargoes, most of them are irredeemable)

I hear this protests is leading to mass release of many who were locked up in cell without trial for one year, two years etc.
That is a very wonderful achievement

yes it has been my dream for youths to prostest so the leaders should know there is a repercussion for their actions which might include physical harm ....u can't just increase fuel,vats,electricty,devalue,stamp duty ,lock boaders all at the same time after 4 months of lock down ...it show poor leadership skills

maishai:


My dear this protest ended in Lagos and Lekki gates and maybe to some extent Abuja......There are 774 Local government in Nigeria with more than 100,000 wards

Everyone just goes about their normal business and listens out for the outcome of the protest


Nigeria is really bigger than my imagination

a statement was made sha b4 it was few peopel shouting in unity tower abuja and revolution now ...next will be more bigger since this acheive some.results

maishai:


My dear this protest ended in Lagos and Lekki gates and maybe to some extent Abuja......There are 774 Local government in Nigeria with more than 100,000 wards

Everyone just goes about their normal business and listens out for the outcome of the protest


Nigeria is really bigger than my imagination

I disagree

We had the protests in Ogun state and other Northern states
Even in ilorin as well

From what I read on Twitter
The protests are spreading to even Zamfara states and I think Niger state

If you are on Twitter
Go and check this hashtag #SecureNorth
You will be amazed

Northern youths rejecting the narrative that this protest is a southern protest against their Bubu.

Something indeed has awakened in Nigeria
This current discomfort we are feeling is the price we have to pay

And the bodies that have fallen did not and will not be in vain

maishai:


You sir have left the realm of economics,

as an economic adviser to say an ibo man, would u advise him to build a 100 room hotel in his hometown or @ maza maza bus stop in Lagos.........

Even with all the crises fermenting in Lagos we all know ur answer

if war was certain we will not build any thing ...we will move fund to a more secure Nation.......capital security is more than any potential oppurntiies

ahiboilandgas:
yes it has been my dream for youths to prostest so the leaders should know there is a repercussion for their actions which might include physical harm ....u can't just increase fuel,vats,electricty,devalue,stamp duty ,lock boaders all at the same time after 4 months of lock down ...it show poor leadership skills

Exactly

This has really changed my perception of the Nigeria situation
Maybe Nigeria is not a write off as I had already concluded in the past

Those Northern youths who rejected that narrative of the protest being a southern protest against Buhari was lovely to read

DexterousOne:


I disagree

We had the protests in Ogun state and other Northern states
Even in ilorin as well

From what I read on Twitter
The protests are spreading to even Zamfara states and I think Niger state

If you are on Twitter
Go and check this hashtag #SecureNorth
You will be amazed

Northern youths rejecting the narrative that this protest is a southern protest against their Bubu.

Something indeed has awakened in Nigeria
This current discomfort we are feeling is the price we have to pay

And the bodies that have fallen did not and will not be in vain

yes we had to change the narration cos this yeye politicians up north where wiping up sentiments ....SARS have harassed me personally....lasma and police have permanently turn our drivers to atm we even make provison for the in out cash book.

DexterousOne:


Exactly

This has really changed my perception of the Nigeria situation
Maybe Nigeria is not a write off as I had already concluded in the past

Those Northern youths who rejected that narrative of the protest being a southern protest against Buhari was lovely to read

this state structures are not producing Good result....i still think the regional govt is better...

DexterousOne:


Exactly

This has really changed my perception of the Nigeria situation
Maybe Nigeria is not a write off as I had already concluded in the past

Those Northern youths who rejected that narrative of the protest being a southern protest against Buhari was lovely to read

some of my friends where laughing me for attending previous protest ...

ahiboilandgas:
this state structures are not producing Good result....i still think the regional govt is better...

You will be surprised at how the states will function better when the exclusive and concurrent lists are burnt and discarded
Then a fresh one written up

How can the federal government that is in abuja be breathing down the neck of those in faraway Lagos, Sokoto, Yobe and Akwa Ibom?
The closer government is to the people
The more effective they are

Imagine Washington DC bearing the burden Abuja is bearing for 50 states

America would have since gone to the dogs

DexterousOne:


I disagree

We had the protests in Ogun state and other Northern states
Even in ilorin as well

From what I read on Twitter
The protests are spreading to even Zamfara states and I think Niger state

If you are on Twitter
Go and check this hashtag #SecureNorth
You will be amazed

Northern youths rejecting the narrative that this protest is a southern protest against their Bubu.

Something indeed has awakened in Nigeria
This current discomfort we are feeling is the price we have to pay

And the bodies that have fallen did not and will not be in vain

Nigeria big o........Twitter is probably located on few servers occupying a few square miles.........

I ask a simple question, why can't the Nigerians that protested during occupy Nigeria now come out now fuel is #160.......suffering and smiling ba

Wait till Dangote refinery comes up and u buy fuel @ #500, I guess we would be suffering and laughing then

Even though I do not know what the role of exclusive and concurrent list is for, but I can tell you for free that even if you burn that list, state governors will look for another excuse.
My proof: Portable water supply and grade b roads are not con those list, how have the states fared in both items. NO state in Nigeria (I hear Calabar has though) has the supply of portable water to their homes. Those list is one of the long list of excuses we hold on to when we want to justify our reasons for not succeeding as a nation.

DexterousOne:


You will be surprised at how the states will function better when the exclusive and concurrent lists are burnt and discarded
Then a fresh one written up

How can the federal government that is in abuja be breathing down the neck of those in faraway Lagos, Sokoto, Yobe and Akwa Ibom?
The closer government is to the people
The more effective they are

Imagine Washington DC bearing the burden Abuja is bearing for 50 states

America would have since gone to the dogs

ojesymsym:
Too early in the week to wander into political discussions especially one of the most emotional issue in the country. I think we are threading on dangerous ground here.

What should we expect this week, will dollar increase? will the stock market continue its rally? How will CBN react to the effect of #endsars on the economy. Considering how this year has gone with Covid and now #endsars, what will the financial report of this year? How many companies will survive this unprecedented year?

WE really need to stay off politics here, let us not kill this thread.

You are right, tribal/ethinic discussions can escalate real quick. This is because people are "extremely" emotional about their tribe.

There are few things I try not to trouble people about: religion and tribe.

Wiseoldman:


You are right, tribal/ethinic discussions can escalate real quick. This is because people are "extremely" emotional about their tribe.

There are few things I try not to trouble people about: religion and tribe.

It's tribes that build industries, tribalism is the easiest way to build industry........ You can't take banking away from the Jews, you can't take plumbing from the Irish, you can never take machining away from Germans and Japanese.......
Once we get the tribal and political culture right we can move into the realm of economics else waring factions keep propping up

9jatriot:
Even though I do not know what the role of exclusive and concurrent list is for, but I can tell you for free that even if you burn that list, state governors will look for another excuse.
My proof: Portable water supply and grade b roads are not con those list, how have the states fared in both items. NO state in Nigeria (I hear Calabar has though) has the supply of portable water to their homes. Those list is one of the long list of excuses we hold on to when we want to justify our reasons for not succeeding as a nation.

Wow!

You see that's another thing

The masses need to be educated about the role of each arm and segment of government

Some governors in the south conveniently point fingers at the FG and Buhari for jobs that the governors are supposed to do
I'll give you example
In Bayelsa and Abia states
The masses there (well some of them ) still believe that the problems in the state is 100% FG fault

That's why Abia state is in its state and the people are yet to deal badly with that useless man and his predecessors

Their eyes will open
And when it does
They will not escape retribution

Do you mind explaining this? Historically, it has led to a lot of wars and bitterness. I think you are mixing culture, national pride with tribalism.

maishai:

It's tribes that build industries, tribalism is the easiest way to build industry........ You can't take banking away from the Jews, you can't take plumbing from the Irish, you can never take machining away from Germans and Japanese.......
Once we get the tribal and political culture right we can move into the realm of economics else waring factions keep propping up

maishai:


Nigeria big o........Twitter is probably located on few servers occupying a few square miles.........

I ask a simple question, why can't the Nigerians that protested during occupy Nigeria now come out now fuel is #160.......suffering and smiling ba

Wait till Dangote refinery comes up and u buy fuel @ #500, I guess we would be suffering and laughing then

N300 per litre is the maximum
Anything above that

Dangote should drink his fuel

DexterousOne:


N300 per litre is the maximum
Anything above that

Dangote should drink his fuel

So Nigerians can fanthom buying fuel @ #300......

I really can't stop laughing cos in retrospect the lives lost during occupy Nigeria has been wasted

ahiboilandgas:
this state structures are not producing Good result....i still think the regional govt is better...

my thought....The way we all look at the center is also affecting a lot of things....but who are the one that is meant to make that Decision NASS or the President... as for NASS they are OK with what they are enjoying

maishai:


So Nigerians can fanthom buying fuel @ #300......

I really can't stop laughing cos in retrospect the lives lost during occupy Nigeria has been wasted

That is your own opinion and you are entitled to it
Who knows
You maybe right about the Occupy Nigeria casualties

However
I know that this one is different

What has happened is pointer to what is to come
Nothing good came easy

It's very convenient for some of us to be complicit because of the comfort we have been able to build for ourselves
But when I think of what happened to Honduras and the possibility of it happening here

I just pity all these "upper middle class people "
Because when shit hits the fan
We will be the biggest losers
The vast majority of Nigerians at this point have little to live for and #WeDieHere is the stance they have taken


So think about it while you talk about how the agitation has been in vain

Occupy Nigeria o
Every agitation will culminate into something