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Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by KNOWMORE56: 8:55am On Oct 20, 2020
HuntSon:



Two questions...1....how do you know I'm not naturally wired to like men when you're not GAY yourself? How can you know the symptoms of kidney stones when you have malaria?

2. If being gay is a choice then will you pick being persecuted hated and rejected over a peaceful and less troublesome life?

Now you're tryna equate homosexuality with armed robbery....plssss... you'll deserve a reply when you correctly answer my questions cos I'm done lecturing someone who compares homosexuality to every negativity they can think of just to promote hate


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Now you're tryna equate homosexuality with armed robbery...[b]



Yeah, as this ones feel an urge within so is the others.

As these ones find it difficult to stop; that is the case with the other ones.


You can agree with me that robbers have suffered shame and all that than the other people, yet they are not able to stop robberies.

" May be robbery is a kind of natural/ God given gift or so"
Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by HuntSon(m): 8:20pm On Oct 20, 2020
KNOWMORE56:



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Now you're tryna equate homosexuality with armed robbery...[b]



Yeah, as this ones feel an urge within so is the others.

As these ones find it difficult to stop; that is the case with the other ones.


You can agree with me that robbers have suffered shame and all that than the other people, yet they are not able to stop robberies.

" May be robbery is a kind of natural/ God given gift or so"





Lmao pls excuse me with that stupiddity!!! Does armed robbery deal with CONSENT Does one party get hurt

Don't always rush to type rubbish!

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Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by HuntSon(m): 8:22pm On Oct 20, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


grin grin you did not know that a person can be Guilty of Crimes of Consent or even crimes Against Ones Self, with No other Party present, so of course it is wise that you do not respond lest your foolishness is made manifest.

Lmao start mentioning them...ogbeni get out! If you won't understand "CONSENT" go back to school!

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Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by MuttleyLaff: 2:38am On Oct 21, 2020
KNOWMORE56:
Yeah, as this ones feel an urge within so is the others.

As these ones find it difficult to stop; that is the case with the other ones.


You can agree with me that robbers have suffered shame and all that than the other people, yet they are not able to stop robberies.

"May be robbery is a kind of natural/God given gift or so"
Are you this dull ni? Now tell me:
1/ What is the virtue(s) in committing robbery?
2/ Is roberry a manifestation of the fruit of the Spirit?
3/ What goodness and/or righteousness, is there in robbery?
4/ Is robbery done out of love for the victim of the robbery?
5/ Do victims of robbery cheerfully, gladly, happily and loving it, consent to being robbed?
Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by MuttleyLaff: 3:02am On Oct 21, 2020
HuntSon:
Stop trying to squeeze in things so you can take away CONSENT
I'm done here. You didn't raise enough points to warrant a response... bye
Lmso

Dtruthspeaker:
grin grin you did not know that a person can be Guilty of Crimes of Consent ...
Ignorance is a bliss in this case, if really, you have no idea what "a person can be Guilty of Crimes of Consent" sic, is all about.

Dtruthspeaker:
... or even crimes Against Ones Self, with No other Party present, so of course it is wise that you do not respond lest your foolishness is made manifest.
"The second most important commandment is this:
'Love your neighbor as you love yourself.'
No other commandment is greater than these."
"
Mark 12:31

"The second most important commandment is like it:
Love your neighbor as you love yourself.
"
- Matthew 22:39

"All of Moses' Teachings are summarized in a single statement,
Love your neighbor as you love yourself.
"
- Galatians 5:14

"8Owe no man anything, but to love one another:
for he that loves another has fulfilled the law
.
10Love does no wrong to others,
so love fulfills the requirements of God’s law.
"
- Romans 13:8 & 10

Duh! So loving another person, just as you love yourself, is that "crimes against oneself, with no other party present" sic, hmm?

HuntSon:
Lmao start mentioning them...ogbeni get out! If you won't understand "CONSENT" go back to school!
It's obvious, to say the least, that the fella is biblically undereducated. Mtcheew!

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Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by Image123(m): 8:36am On Oct 21, 2020
LordReed:


You are just a dummy, troll. LoL

i do not troll or harass you. i am just telling you what the Bible says. Hear it again.
You keep fooling around equating animals with yourself. You are a man for God's sake. Stop thinking yourself as an animal.

Psa 49:12  Nevertheless man being in honour abideth not: he is like the beasts that perish.
Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by Image123(m): 9:34am On Oct 21, 2020
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i don't remember the exact modalities, but brother i remember that we agreed to shelve sword on these issues. You cannot continue to compare being left handed to being an homo. Being left handed is even in the Bible and there is no wrong attached to it by the Bible. But on the other hand, we all know that God did not create Adam and Steve, it was Adam and Eve. From the beginning it was not so. A man leaves his father's house and is joined to his woman. That is the Bible standard from cover to cover. You cannot give the excuse of consent or of both enjoying themselves. that is largely superficial. Many sins are enjoyable and pleasurable to the doers. Even the Bible talks of the PLEASURES OF SIN. Sin is not guaged that way.
A married man and a woman consent and enjoy themselves in fornication, it is still a sin.
Two unmarried man and woman consent and enjoy themselves in immorality, it is still sin.
Two minors consent and enjoy themselves in fornication, it is still sin.
One adult and a minor consent and enjoy themselves in sin, it is still sin. It has no other good name.
Some lying, coveteousness, idolatry and suicide may even be argued to be with consent and to nobody's harm. It is all superficial. Sin is sin.
Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by elated177: 9:43am On Oct 21, 2020
Muttleylaff, you need to quit with the mentions. Is it not obvious that I don't want to have any form of discussion with you?

You are satanic and no amount of Scriptures you pour out here will ever change that.

If you could look at the Scriptures and still unashamedly assert that they approve of homosexuality, then, whatever you say here bordering on righteousness and the righteous walk is null and void.

What you, muttleylaff, are - a chronic unrepentant manipulator of the Scriptures - was ascertained and ratified a long time ago and you have not disappointed in that regard.

You, muttleylaff, are doing the job of your father, the devil. Heaven and Earth will continue to judge and condemn you, muttleylaff, for even the least soul you will mislead here on this forum.

Now, scram and quit with the mentions.
Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by elated177: 10:14am On Oct 21, 2020
KNOWMORE56:



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Now you're tryna equate homosexuality with armed robbery...[b]



Yeah, as this ones feel an urge within so is the others.

As these ones find it difficult to stop; that is the case with the other ones.


You can agree with me that robbers have suffered shame and all that than the other people, yet they are not able to stop robberies.

" May be robbery is a kind of natural/ God given gift or so"





Good points.

The homosexuality apologists will neither see the point nor accept it. Evil has a way of attempting to twist the truth and make it about something else.

Armed robbery is hated and frowned upon by almost everybody. Armed robbery unleashes hardship and suffering on its victims. The law enforcement agencies are always out to tackle armed robbery. But have all these stopped armed robbery completely?

Even the armed robbers themselves may detest the act. They know they put their lives in danger each time they engage in such wickedness. They know they will cause pains in the lives of their loved ones. They know the shame and infamy associated with the act. They know they have a choice.

Homosexuality is an unclean act. It is detestable and abominable. It defiles the earth. It pollutes the spiritual environment. It glorifies Satan and the demons. It defiles and spiritually degrades the one who practises it. It should - I used "should" because Satan and the demons have worked assiduously to make the world act otherwise - elicit disgust from people towards those who engage in it. The lgbt people have and are spending billions of dollars to fight against these and consider anyone who still holds such views an enemy.

There is no virtue in homosexuality.

Homosexuality is the manifestation of the fruit of the spirit of disobedience, wickedness, rebellion and ultimately the spirit of Satan.

There is no goodness associated with homosexuality. Homosexuality is unrighteousness inside and outside.

Homosexuality is vile affection. What exists in homosexuality is not love but demonic bond.

The Natural Law does not consent to homosexuality. It is rape on the Natural Law.

Homosexuality is vile, abominable, detestable, disgusting and totally unrighteous.

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Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by elated177: 10:43am On Oct 21, 2020
It is a waste of time trying to tell a person whose protection and wealth depend on the abominable act of homosexuality to repent. It is like telling a fish not to swallow water.
Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by Dtruthspeaker: 11:52am On Oct 21, 2020
HuntSon:


Lmao start mentioning them...ogbeni get out! If you won't understand "CONSENT" go back to school!

grin 'Inegbo' Why hate me so? it is not the law that you must know all things but you can always learn.

And it is only unfortunate for you, which should not be for I was happy to share the knowledge with you, for you are contending with A Teacher of "CONSENT" and you are rather being angry for being a penis lover.

I have said it earlier that it is not I who shall judge you. Sucking and sliding over penile extensions is your business.

And ditto, I am always in school.
Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by Dtruthspeaker: 12:32pm On Oct 21, 2020
MuttleyLaff:

Ignorance is a bliss in this case, if really, you have no idea what "a person can be Guilty of Crimes of Consent" sic, is all about.

The beauty of your ability to talk is that we get to see and hear how you a house painter is able to carry out a bypass surgery, as one who performs such task, everyday, to the entertainment and amusement of the surgeons themselves.

MuttleyLaff:

"The second most important commandment is this:
'Love your neighbor as you love yourself.'
No other commandment is greater than these."
"
Mark 12:31

"The second most important commandment is like it:
Love your neighbor as you love yourself.
"
- Matthew 22:39

"All of Moses' Teachings are summarized in a single statement,
Love your neighbor as you love yourself.
"
- Galatians 5:14

"8Owe no man anything, but to love one another:
for he that loves another has fulfilled the law
.
10Love does no wrong to others,
so love fulfills the requirements of God’s law.
"
- Romans 13:8 & 10

Duh! So loving another person, just as you love yourself, is that "crimes against oneself, with no other party present" sic, hmm?

It's obvious, to say the least, that the fella is biblically undereducated. Mtcheew!

Oh my friend the Player of Penisis, This is the Love Commanded.

"Withhold not good from them to whom it is due, When it is in the power of thy hand to do it."

"Forgive our debts as we forgive our debtors" but you do not owe me, so I have nothing against you

Therefore Another Law enters in "Do unto others what you want them to do unto you".

And there is no restriction or limitation as to the persons I must give love to for it is Commanded "The Rain and the Sun falls on both the good and the evil", so would I not withold from any one including the Lover of Penisis, that which is good.

And I know all These and more, so love is not a problem with me.
Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by HuntSon(m): 4:55pm On Oct 21, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


grin 'Inegbo' Why hate me so? it is not the law that you must know all things but you can always learn.

And it is only unfortunate for you, which should not be for I was happy to share the knowledge with you, for you are contending with A Teacher of "CONSENT" and you are rather being angry for being a penis lover.

I have said it earlier that it is not I who shall judge you. Sucking and sliding over penile extensions is your business.

And ditto, I am always in school.




If you really wanted to learn, you would have asked, rather than salivating over things you don't know!

By the way, you talk about penis so much...bruh pls the obsession with the thing is showing... stop grin wink
Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by MuttleyLaff: 6:18pm On Oct 21, 2020
elated177:
MuttleyLaff, you need to quit with the mentions. Is it not obvious that I don't want to have any form of discussion with you?
You unduly think too highly about yourself and arrogate to yourself a false sense of someone with credibility.

You're too much of a liar for my liking to have any form of mature, healthy, meaningful and consequential discussion with, besides homophobes rarely repent, lmso.

elated177:
You are satanic and no amount of Scriptures you pour out here will ever change that.
I take you calling me satanic as a compliment. Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ too was accused of being of the devil. Thank you very much (i.e. Mark 3:22)

Every shadow no matter how deep, is always threatened by the morning light, lmso. Truth has no fear, but as for untruth, lmso, it shivers at every shadow

Listen to your shadow, asking you that you must be afraid of the dark, but telling you that, its people, like you in the dark, that your shadow is afraid of, lmso, because the most dangerous kind of person, is he/she who is afraid of their own shadow, lmso. You dont even know that the shadow is a constant reminder that there's light nearby somewhere, lmso

elated177:
If you could look at the Scriptures and still unashamedly assert that they approve of homosexuality, then, whatever you say here bordering on righteousness and the righteous walk is null and void.
You know quite well that there is no scripture that disapproves of monogamous same sex attraction consented adult relationships, that harms no child, no human being, no animal and not the environment.

The Scripture has not said that all homosexual relationships are approved of - just as the Scripture would not say all heterosexual relationships are approved, lmso.

I dare you to give the answer to this easy, simple, harmless, innocent, point blank and straightforward question, elated177
What, in one word, and is eternal, is the fundanmental purpose of man to God, himself and neighbour?


elated177:
What you, MuttleyLaff, are - a chronic unrepentant manipulator of the Scriptures - was ascertained and ratified a long time ago and you have not disappointed in that regard.
"1If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels,
but have not love, I am only a ringing gong or a clanging cymbal
.
2If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge,
and if I have absolute faith so as to move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing
.
3If I give all I possess to the poor and exult in the surrender of my body, but have not love, I gain nothing.
4Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
5It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no account of wrongs.
6Love takes no pleasure in evil, but rejoices in the truth.
7It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
8Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease;
where there are tongues, they will be restrained; where there is knowledge, it will be dismissed
.
9For we know in part and we prophesy in part,
10but when the perfect comes, the partial passes away.
11When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child.
When I became a man, I set aside childish ways.
12Now we see but a dim reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face.
Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
13And now these three remain: faith, hope, and love; but the greatest of these is love
."
- 1 Corinthians 13:1-13

Look at the nondescript soot calling an avalanche black, lmso.

elated177:
You, MuttleyLaff, are doing the job of your father, the devil. Heaven and Earth will continue to judge and condemn you, muttleylaff, for even the least soul you will mislead here on this forum.
God doesn’t judge you according to sexuality, but He looks in the heart and observes the deeds, action and utterances, lmso.

elated177:
Now, scram and quit with the mentions.
By the time you've finished your posting ban spell, I guess it should give you enough time to have calmed down, and have your brain reset back to Manufacturer's default correct thinking settings
Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by jmoore(m): 7:15pm On Oct 21, 2020
Terrorists
Rapists
etc

God created them all.

If you buy a car and decide to modify it to your taste, stop blaming the original manufacturer.
Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by LordReed(m): 12:05am On Oct 22, 2020
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i do not troll or harass you. i am just telling you what the Bible says. Hear it again.
You keep fooling around equating animals with yourself. You are a man for God's sake. Stop thinking yourself as an animal.

Psa 49:12  Nevertheless man being in honour abideth not: he is like the beasts that perish. 

You are a dummy because you keep repeating the same untrue rubbish. Well have it troll. LMAO!

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Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by Image123(m): 12:55am On Oct 22, 2020
LordReed:


You are a dummy because you keep repeating the same untrue rubbish. Well have it troll. LMAO!

Painment due to forces beyond control.
Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by LordReed(m): 2:24am On Oct 22, 2020
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Painment due to forces beyond control.

LoL. Rich coming from a troll. Bwahahahahaha!

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Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by MuttleyLaff: 3:52am On Oct 22, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:
The beauty of your ability to talk is that we get to see and hear how you a house painter is able to carry out a bypass surgery, as one who performs such task, everyday, to the entertainment and amusement of the surgeons themselves..
We are not talking of house painting or bypass surgery here, but honest, sincere and truthful 2 Timothy 2:15 exegesis and hermeneutic of Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:26-27, and even 1 Corinthians 6:9 and/or 1 Timothy 1:10.

Scripture cannot mean now, what it did not mean back then, lmso. Familiarity of verses like, Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:26-27, and even 1 Corinthians 6:9 and/or 1 Timothy 1:10 does not necessarily mean contextually understanding each one and/or all of them, lmso.

I dare you to show me ONE verse in the Bible where homosexuality is not linked to temple cult idolatry, lust promiscuous sexual intercourse.

Dtruthspeaker:
Oh my friend the Player of Penisis, ...
So, you've now resorted to name calling abi? It's OK, as my penis is not offended in the least, lmso

Dtruthspeaker:
This is the Love Commanded.

"Withhold not good from them to whom it is due, When it is in the power of thy hand to do it."

"Forgive our debts as we forgive our debtors" but you do not owe me, so I have nothing against you

Therefore Another Law enters in "Do unto others what you want them to do unto you".

And there is no restriction or limitation as to the persons I must give love to for it is Commanded "The Rain and the Sun falls on both the good and the evil", so would I not withold from any one including the Lover of Penisis, that which is good.

And I know all These and more, so love is not a problem with me.
If you know all these then and are reinforcing my point for me, that, love is the main aspect in heterosexual/homosexual monogamous, committed, faithful, loyal, truthful, kind, caring, honest and loving relationships, then why are you not pleased for those who are gay be happier in their lives, loving each other then, hmm? If mutual love is not a barrier in heterosexual relationships, why are you bent on making love, a barrier, in same sex attraction relationships, hmm? Dont you understand that, in itself, homosexuality is just as limiting as heterosexuality is: the ideal is to love a woman or a man, a human being, without feeling clamped down upon, without fear of, restraint, condemnation, singled out for vilification et cetera

Be careful what and/or who you hate because it could be someone dear to you, who you love, lmso

Any Bible verses you believe are condemning same sex attraction relationships are not, in context, talking about monogamous, committed, faithful, loyal, truthful, kind, caring, honest and loving same sex attraction relationships.

What commandment does monogamous, committed, faithful, loyal, truthful, kind, caring, honest and loving same sex attraction relationships violate, hmm? What evil, do you see, in monogamous, committed, faithful, loyal, truthful, kind, caring, honest and loving same sex attraction relationship act of love, hmm? Is your hatred against a monogamous, mutual committed, faithful, loyal, truthful, kind, caring, honest and loving same sex attraction relationship act of love, a good thing, huh, considering that the Bible, says there is no law against love, hmm? Clearly, no where in the bible are long term monogamous, mutual committed, faithful, loyal, truthful, kind, caring, honest and loving same sex attraction relationships are condemned and/or called a sin

God accepts everyone who doesnt hurt himself/herself or harm others (e.g. children, animals, environment et cetera) and who is kind, faithful, loyal, truthful, kind, caring, honest and loving, lmso

None of Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ’ biographers including not even a single instance of Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ challenged same sex attraction relationships. So, if Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ isn’t against same sex attraction relationships, then, at least for believers/saints, that should end the argument and discussions. Besides if the essence of Bible is love, just as you admitted to with me, lmso, and Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ says this too, then long term monogamous, mutual committed, faithful, loyal, truthful, kind, caring, honest and loving same sex attraction relationships hardly falls afoul of the Bible

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Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by MuttleyLaff: 6:06am On Oct 22, 2020
Image123:
i don't remember the exact modalities, but brother i remember that we agreed to shelve sword on these issues.
I dont think you've seen me in combative mode though here on the issue. I havent come with sword undrawn nah, not even in a whimsical sense of it too.

Image123:
You cannot continue to compare being left handed to being an homo. Being left handed is even in the Bible and there is no wrong attached to it by the Bible. But on the other hand, we all know that God did not create Adam and Steve, it was Adam and Eve.
If God did not create Adam and Steve, who created Adam and Steve then?

Image123:
From the beginning it was not so. A man leaves his father's house and is joined to his woman. That is the Bible standard from cover to cover. You cannot give the excuse of consent or of both enjoying themselves. that is largely superficial. Many sins are enjoyable and pleasurable to the doers. Even the Bible talks of the PLEASURES OF SIN. Sin is not guaged that way.
A married man and a woman consent and enjoy themselves in fornication, it is still a sin.
Two unmarried man and woman consent and enjoy themselves in immorality, it is still sin.
Two minors consent and enjoy themselves in fornication, it is still sin.
One adult and a minor consent and enjoy themselves in sin, it is still sin. It has no other good name.
Some lying, coveteousness, idolatry and suicide may even be argued to be with consent and to nobody's harm. It is all superficial. Sin is sin.
All valid points you've rightly listed, but please share what particularly is the sin with same sex attraction couples in a monogamous, mutual committed, faithful, loyal, truthful, kind, caring, honest and loving same sex attraction relationship act of love?
What evil is there in same sex attraction couples in a monogamous, mutual committed, faithful, loyal, truthful, kind, caring, honest and loving same sex attraction and who dont hurt either of themselves or harm others? (e.g. children, animals, environment et cetera)
Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by elated177: 4:16pm On Oct 22, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
You unduly think too highly about yourself and arrogate to yourself a false sense of someone with credibility.

You're too much of a liar for my liking to have any form of mature, healthy, meaningful and consequential discussion with, besides homophobes rarely repent, lmso.

I take you calling me satanic as a compliment. aka Jesus Christ too was accused of being of the devil. Thank you very much

Every shadow no matter how deep, is always threatened by the morning light, lmso. Truth has no fear, but as for untruth, lmso, it shivers at every shadow

Listen to your shadow, asking you that you must be afraid of the dark, but telling you that, its people, like you in the dark, that your shadow is afraid of, lmso, because the most dangerous kind of person, is he/she who is afraid of their own shadow, lmso. You dont even know that the shadow is a constant reminder that there's light nearby somewhere, lmso

You know quite well that there is no scripture that disapproves of monogamous same sex attraction consented adult relationships, that harms no child, no human being, no animal and not the environment.

The Scripture has not said that all homosexual relationships are approved of - just as the Scripture would not say all heterosexual relationships are approved, lmso.

I dare you to give the answer to this easy, simple, harmless, innocent, point blank and straightforward question, [u][/u]:
What, in one word, and is eternal, is the fundanmental purpose of man to God, himself and neighbour?


Look at the nondescript soot calling an avalanche black, lmso.

God doesn’t judge you according to sexuality, but He looks in the heart and observes the deeds, action and utterances, lmso.

By the time you've finished your posting ban spell, I guess you should give you enough time to have calmed down, and have your brain reset back to Manufacturer's default correct thinking settings


Mtcheeeew!

Ihe efu!
Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:15pm On Oct 22, 2020
This is the interesting part of the confusion that enemies of truth plunged themselves! cheesy

So upon the Yahushua and many other forms of rendering MuttleyLaff and elated177 both use as pronouncing biblical characters you guys still finds it difficult to agree on terms! cheesy

Jesus is a marvelous counselor, he said it that those who choose to oppose his group can never unite! Luke 11:23

Na wa o, Yahushua Massaich and all other stuff yet both of you still finds it hard to agree, better humble yourselves before Jehovah's Witnesses and learn how true Christianity (pure worship) operates, God's Holy Spirit will never work with arrogant people! John 17:20-23 smiley

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Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by MuttleyLaff: 12:01am On Oct 23, 2020
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Gossip degrades people.
Wetin Musa no go take hin eyes see from miguard gatehouse. Pesin wey GB don exchange hin brain sef get mouth remain to dey yarn
Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by Image123(m): 12:42am On Oct 23, 2020
MuttleyLaff:

I dont think you've seen me in combative mode though here on the issue. I havent come with sword undrawn nah, not even in a whimsical sense of it too.

If God did not create Adam and Steve, who created Adam and Steve then?

Who else but the thief who perverts while men slept? While God created all men, he didn't create men as sinners.

Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female
created he them. 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.


All valid points you've rightly listed, but please share what particularly is the sin with same sex attraction couples in a monogamous, mutual committed, faithful, loyal, truthful, kind, caring, honest and loving same sex attraction relationship act of love?
What evil is there in same sex attraction couples in a monogamous, mutual committed, faithful, loyal, truthful, kind, caring, honest and loving same sex attraction and who dont hurt either of themselves or harm others? (e.g. children, animals, environment et cetera)

The sin is that God doesn't want it for humans as stated in numerous passages that you are aware of. You are free to your opinion as to the WHY, the issue on discussion is the what. God wants husband and wife, not wife and wife or husband and husband. Do you remember who Ananias and Sapphira hurt? It was God,not Peter or the church or even themselves.

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Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by MuttleyLaff: 1:07am On Oct 23, 2020
Image123:
Who else but the thief who perverts while men slept? While God created all men, he didn't create men as sinners.

Genesis
1:27
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female
created he them.
1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
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So ... your point here is what?

You've defo slipped into proof-texting mode, because I am 10000% sure that when God created Adam and Steve, He didnt for a nanosecond, think that Steve wasn't in the overall scheme of thing, part of the whole common good.

Man, no doubt, since after eating off the TKG&E, became debased and devalued, but hey thank God for coming to the rescue in the person of God incarnate Himself, Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, The Lord and Saviour of the whole wide world. Praise God Alleluia!.

Image123:
The sin is that God doesn't want it for humans as stated in numerous passages that you are aware of. You are free to your opinion as to the WHY, the issue on discussion is the what. God wants husband and wife, not wife and wife or husband and husband
Relationship, in regardless of gender specifics is on a higher priority before sexuality. Now please tell, what specifically is the sin that God doesn't want in two consenting adults from enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, that you allege is/are stated in numerous passages, hmm?

If you are referring to Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:26-27, and even 1 Corinthians 6:9 and/or 1 Timothy 1:10, as what the "numerous passages" are, I would take you to task, that, each one of those verses are linked to temple cult idolatry, lust, promiscuous sexual intercourse, infidelity, unfaithfulness, disloyalty, evilness, temple cult prostitution et cetera. Your opinionated stance will change when faced with facts and truth, that are gummed with incontrovertible proofs, lmso, because any Bible verses you believe are condemning same sex attraction relationships are not, in context, talking about monogamous, committed, faithful, loyal, truthful, kind, caring, honest and loving same sex attraction relationships

God, has never said anywhere that it is sinful for same sex attraction couples, who dont hurt either of themselves or harm others (e.g. children, animals, environment et cetera) to be in a monogamous, mutual committed, faithful, loyal, truthful, kind, caring, honest and loving same sex attraction

Image123:
Do you remember who Ananias and Sapphira hurt?
I do remember Ananias and Sapphira. I remember that treachery, lies, stealing, being self-centred, lust, pretending to be what they aren't, not being truthful, not owning up, hiding who they really are, et cetera was their cause of them meeting their Waterloo.

Image123:
It was God, not Peter or the church or even themselves.
"The second most important commandment is this:
'Love your neighbor as you love yourself.'
No other commandment is greater than these."
"
Mark 12:31

"The second most important commandment is like it:
Love your neighbor as you love yourself.
"
- Matthew 22:39

"All of Moses' Teachings are summarized in a single statement,
Love your neighbor as you love yourself.
"
- Galatians 5:14

"8Owe no man anything, but to love one another:
for he that loves another has fulfilled the law
.
10Love does no wrong to others,
so love fulfills the requirements of God’s law.
"
- Romans 13:8 & 10

Is God hurt by love? Does God abhor expression of love? Does God find loving your neighbour as you love yourself sinful, huh?
Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by Image123(m): 2:23am On Oct 23, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
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So ... your point here is what?

You've defo slipped into proof-texting mode, because I am 10000% sure that when God created Adam and Steve, He didnt for a nanosecond, think that Steve wasn't in the overall scheme of thing, part of the whole common good.

Man, no doubt, since after eating off the TKG&E, became debased and devalued, but hey thank God for coming to the rescue in the person of God incarnate Himself, Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, The Lord and Saviour of the whole wide world. Praise God Alleluia!.

You refused to show where God made Adam and Steve. Perhaps Jesus Christ was prooftexting when He quoted the passage too in regards to marriage. i am in good company.



Relationship, in regardless of gender specifics is on a higher priority before sexuality.

If you are referring to Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:26-27, and even 1 Corinthians 6:9 and/or 1 Timothy 1:10, as what the "numerous passages" are, I would take you to task, that, each one of those verses are linked to temple cult idolatry, lust, promiscuous sexual intercourse, infidelity, unfaithfulness, disloyalty, evilness, temple cult prostitution et cetera. Your opinionated stance will change when faced with facts and truth, that are gummed with incontrovertible proofs, lmso.

God has never said anywhere that it is sinful for same sex attraction couples, who dont hurt either of themselves or harm others (e.g. children, animals, environment et cetera) to be in a monogamous, mutual committed, faithful, loyal, truthful, kind, caring, honest and loving same sex attraction

The Bible in several instances refer to the husband and wife relationship. If you believe it has no priority, prove it so from the Bible. Marriage gender is not necessary but it is somehow the only example all through scriptures.
Like you have quoted some, the what is very clear. The esoteric why is your opinion which you are entitled to.

I do remember Ananias and Sapphira. I remember that treachery, lies, stealing, being self-centred, lust, pretending to be what they aren't, not being truthful, not owning up, hiding who they really are, et cetera was their cause of them meeting their Waterloo.

The question was WHO did they hurt, i don't think i need an exegesis of what they did. Anybody knows that they lied.

"The second most important commandment is this:
'Love your neighbor as you love yourself.'
No other commandment is greater than these."
"
Mark 12:31

"The second most important commandment is like it:
Love your neighbor as you love yourself.
"
- Matthew 22:39

"All of Moses' Teachings are summarized in a single statement,
Love your neighbor as you love yourself.
"
- Galatians 5:14

"8Owe no man anything, but to love one another:
for he that loves another has fulfilled the law
.
10Love does no wrong to others,
so love fulfills the requirements of God’s law.
"
- Romans 13:8 & 10

Is God hurt by love? Does God abhor expression of love? Does God find loving your neighbour as you love yourself sinful, huh?

God is love, any other love outside God is a disguise. Two fornicators claiming to love one another are a disgust to God and to me. Anyone who loves me as himself will behave normal and straight BTW, i am greatly hurt by the mere word homo not to mention being a practicing married one. An homo is a selfish, greedy fellow with no regards for me, and usually for former friends, family, church and the sane world at large. Love is selfless not some crazy feeling for a fellow man.

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Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by MuttleyLaff: 3:14am On Oct 23, 2020
Image123:
You refused to show where God made Adam and Steve. Perhaps Jesus Christ was prooftexting when He quoted the passage too in regards to marriage. i am in good company.
God made Man (i.e. human beings), using Adam and Eve as the prototype, Steve came out from within that template. I have no cause to refuse anything, the fact is out there that Steve came out of Adam. Dont you already know this ni. Or you're burying your head in the sand with your arse held wide open for all to see.

God incarnate in the person of Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, The Lord and Saviour of the whole wide world. Praise God Alleluia knows that diversity is nature's secret weapon, lmso, so He has no need to proof-text scripture like you relish in doing with trying to make Scripture mean now, what it did not mean back then and in its original texts, lmso.

Image123:
The Bible in several instances refer to the husband and wife relationship. If you believe it has no priority, prove it so from the Bible. Marriage gender is not necessary but it is somehow the only example all through scriptures.
Like you have quoted some, the what is very clear. The esoteric why is your opinion which you are entitled to.
Relationship outlives marriage. You should know this Image123. C'mon. I dont have to pull out scripture to corroborate this with heavyweight you, nah.

Image123:
The question was WHO did they hurt, i don't think i need an exegesis of what they did. Anybody knows that they lied.
Of course, Ananias, conspired with his wife Sapphira to lie to the Holy Spirit. To lie is not a fruit of the Holy Spirit. They violated almost all, if not all of the fruit of the Holy Spirit. Two consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment exude the fruit of the Holy Spirit, lmso.

Image123:
God is love, any other love outside God is a disguise. Two fornicators claiming to love one another are a disgust to God and to me. Anyone who loves me as himself will behave normal and straight BTW, i am greatly hurt by the mere word homo not to mention being a practicing married one. An homo is a selfish, greedy fellow with no regards for me, and usually for former friends, family, church and the sane world at large. Love is selfless not some crazy feeling for a fellow man.
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Crazy feeling? Huh?

So this is all about selfish you now, isn't it? You are currently supporting sin, by encouraging people to hate and I can literally feel your charged up anger, hatred and annoyance coming through the internet.

OK since you know and accept that we are encouraged to love, then what exactly is the craziness you see in having, love feeling for a human being, and even love feeling to fellow man, who for that minority part matter case, is less than 5% of the 7 billion world population, hmm?

For you to disapprove of gays, you dont seem to understand that this is kind of like, the white flour in bread disapproving of the yeast, lmso. Who in their right does that, lmso.

Image123, What to your best understanding and/or knowledge is sin. What's "your" definition of sin? Shouldn't it be what God says sin is, erhn? The transgression of the law, hmm?

Now if contextually scripturally speaking, then I ask you, what law have two consenting adults enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment exude the fruit of the Holy Spirit flouted?
Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:25am On Oct 23, 2020
All thanks goes to JEHOVAH the father of celestial light.
So the setting of order in God's arrangement ~
JEHOVAH trained Jesus
Jesus trained the Governing Body
Governing Body trained those taking the lead
Those taking the lead trained Elders and Ministerial Servants in each congregation, so there is order and peace amongst God's people! 1Corinthians 14:33,40
Rebellious people like Adam are never coordinated! Luke 11:23 smiley
Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:45am On Oct 23, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
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Gossip degrades people.
Wetin Musa no go take hin eyes see from miguard gatehouse. Pesin wey GB don exchange hin brain sef get mouth remain to dey yarn

It's true! grin
GB don exchange the brains of over 8.7 millions of people around you, but anywhere you see them know that you're 100% safe with them because they'll never take up weapons against you no matter what happens. undecided
That's one undeniable BENEFIT of what the GB did to them! Hebrew 4:12 compare to James 2:18-26 wink
Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by Acehart: 2:17pm On Oct 23, 2020
The Pharisee stood and began to pray these things to himself, ‘O God, I thank you that I am not like other people—But one of the other people the Pharisee referred to, standing at a distance, was not willing even to raise his eyes heavenward but kept beating his chest, saying, ‘O God, be gracious to me, a sinner.’ I tell you, this man went down to his home and was proved more righteous than that Pharisee.
Re: Why Would God Create Homosexuals And Direct Them To...... by MuttleyLaff: 9:01am On Nov 08, 2020
Acehart:
The Pharisee stood and began to pray these things to himself, ‘O God, I thank you that I am not like other people—But one of the other people the Pharisee referred to, standing at a distance, was not willing even to raise his eyes heavenward but kept beating his chest, saying, ‘O God, be gracious to me, a sinner.’ I tell you, this man went down to his home and was proved more righteous than that Pharisee.
The Pharisee aka "Far-To-See" aka "Far-i- See" unlike one of the people he was pontificating himself not to be like, didnt realise that: "Gbogbo wa lole... Ẹni ilẹ mọ ba, ni barawo" which when loosely translated means "We're all born thieves, but someone the one caught at the crack of dawn, with hand stuck in the cookie jar, is a hardcore armed robber"

Alternatively "All we una, be scammers, na the one wey EFCC catch, be Yahoo, Yahoo convict"

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