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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 10:16am On Oct 28, 2020
Blabbermouth:
Yes! I'm a novice, I actually don't know much.

So sir Haddeylium, do me the honor of telling me who the other flock and little flocks are.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, tell me where it says the little flock or other flock (whichever you like) will abide in heaven forever.
Lol.

You skipped it prolly.
Janosky highligted it in his post

Janosky:
Matthew 5:3, the born again are chosen for heavenly life for a purpose- co-rulers with Christ. (John 3:3-5. Rev1:5-6. 5:10. 14:1-3).

To rule over the righteous mankind to live forever on earth... Matthew 5:5 (Matt6:10 Psalms 37:29. 2 Peter 3:13. Rev21:3-4).
After
Matthew 24:36-39, 2 Peter 2:5-6. 2 Thess1:8-9 is fulfilled...
(what occurred in Noah's day will be repeated again... When it occurred in Noah's day, did he & his righteous family go to heaven?
No.. (Isaiah 45:18. Psalms 115:16)

Because 2Peter 2:5-6 Matthew 5:5. 6:10 & Psalms 37:29. Rev21:3-5 MUST fulfill..
...


Compare each point with the scripture quoted!.
And Observe the two resurrection hope.
Co-rulers in heaven (little flock) and subjects to abide forever on Earth (other sheep/great crowd)
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by johnw47: 10:19am On Oct 28, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
In that case lots of religious folks that agreed with the idea are Satan's mob so it's not only Jehovah's Witnesses! wink
oh duh of course it's not dum unstable one

Jud 1:18  How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts
Jud 1:19  These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 10:29am On Oct 28, 2020
haddeylium:
Lol.

You skipped it prolly.
Janosky highligted it in his post

...


Compare each point with the scripture quoted!.
And Observe the two resurrection hope.
Co-rulers in heaven (little flock) and subjects to abide forever on Earth (other sheep/great crowd)
Guy, do you actually have a scripture that connotes this, or you are just conjuring it up?

I read Rev 5:10, the Kings and priest are to reign ON THE EARTH.

I read Matt 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN
The last we checked, the new Jerusalem which they were to inhabit, came out from heaven and came down TO EARTH.

I read John 3:3-5
You should not rope yourself with this Kingdom of God strawman.

1. There are many scriptures literred all around claiming the kingdom of God is here (ON EARTH)

2. Is the new earth not part of God's kingdom

You didn't even read between the lines in John 3:3-5.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 10:41am On Oct 28, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
Being inspired is not a license to perfection!

Noah, Moses, David, Solomon, Jonah, Peter and many other servants of God were inspired yet they were not perfect (infallible), the GB told the whole world that they're neither inspired nor infallible.
Then who says they are perfecthuh

The point is: Do the teaching of Noah, Moses, David, Solomon, Jonah, Peter and many others servants of God contain ERROR or WRONG DOCTRINES?

[s]They (as we believe) were appointed in 1919 to oversee the preaching and teaching program Jesus commissioned that was obstructed since the death of all the Apostles. And they're to continue feeding Jesus' sheep to make them progress and fruitful regarding the preaching and teaching program.

So when Jesus (as a spirit person) began dealing with them they were like little babies learning how to walk, and during those times of course they surely made many mistakes as imperfect humans dealing with an invisible spirit. But Jesus said that the end result will justify if they were truly working for and with him! Matthew 7:16-18

Today Jehovah's Witnesses have stood out with a great difference, the Organization where racism and politics is rendered powerless, the Organization globally known for zealous preaching and teaching program, the Organization that's orderly and all members have the same line of thought!

Well these might seem meaningless to some but to the over 8,700,000 people from different races under the heavens coming together to subject themselves to this GB it means a lot! Zechariah 8:23[/s]
Irrelevant!

God bless you! smiley
The same God bless you...
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by DappaD(op):
Blabbermouth:
Guy, do you actually have a scripture that connotes this, or you are just conjuring it up?

I read Rev 5:10, the Kings and priest are to reign ON OVER THE EARTH.
There I fixed it for you @bolded.
Jesus Christ and the 144,000 are to rule OVER the earth from heaven sir. It's that clear. (1Cor 6:2, Rev 20:6)
Jesus Christ is the FIRST firstfruits resurrected as an immortal spirit being and now resides in heaven. (1Cor 15:20,23,1Peter 3:18)
While the 144,000 are second firstfruits bought from among mankind whose citizenship exists in the heavens NOT the earth.(Philippians 3:21, Rev 14:4) these ones also share the same kind of resurrection Christ had—resurrection to a spirit life indestructible and incorruptible.(1Cor 15:42-44, 51-54)
I read Matt 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN
The “Kingdom of heaven” is rightly so because that's where God’s Kingdom/government is located. The “Kingdom of heaven” is not the same as heaven itself, because God said he was going to establish a Kingdom in heaven and heaven had existed before that time. (Daniel 2:44)

The last we checked, the new Jerusalem which they were to inhabit, came out from heaven and came down TO EARTH.
I read John 3:3-5
You should not rope yourself with this Kingdom of God strawman.
The “New Jerusalem” coming down from heaven is event that symbolizes something else. (Rev 1:1)
The marriage between Jesus Christ(the Lamb) and the bride i.e. “New Jerusalem” made up of those who are adopted spirit sons of God takes place after Armageddon and marks the beginning of the 1000 year Messianic rule; that is when attention is given to righteous inhabitants of the earth in the sense of the “New Jerusalem” coming down to the earth. (Rev 21:2)

1. There are many scriptures literred all around claiming the kingdom of God is here (ON EARTH)
The Kingdom of God is on earth yet the world conditions have proved otherwise. I sure hope you're thinking straight though. You no even try sugarcoat your lies sef.

2. Is the new earth not part of God's kingdom
The “new earth” is symbolic. See Genesis 11:1
Simply, it means a society of obedient mankind where righteousness would be the watchword. (2Peter 3:13)

You didn't even read between the lines in John 3:3-5.
Except one is born of spirit, anointed and sealed on basis on Christ's shed blood, he cannot rule alongside Jesus Christ as a joint heir. (Romans 8:16,17, Revelation 14:1-4)
Pretty much explains why John the Baptist was left out of this arrangement.(Matthew 11:11)
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky:
Emusan:
Then who says they are perfecthuh

The point is: Do the teaching of Noah, Moses, David, Solomon, Jonah, Peter and many others servants of God contain ERROR or WRONG DOCTRINES?



Irrelevant!



The same God bless you...
1 Timothy 4:16, NIV: "Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them, because if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers." ..

Your teaching is not only what you say , also what you do, your way of life.

The answer to your question is "Yes !!!!"

Errors & mistakes full the life and teachings of all of them..


*2 Sam 24:1-10, is David's teaching a serious error?

*Numbers 20:10, Moses taught Israel he fetched them "water out of this rock". Bros ,did Moses say the truth?
And did he actually obey Jehovah's instructions?

** Jonah 4:3-4, was Jehovah actually pleased by Jonah's outbursts?

Acts15:14, The Gentiles had been accepted as Jehovah''s servants, what was Peter teaching his fellow believers when @ Galatians 2:11, he pulled back from the Gentiles?

What was Solomon teaching the ancient nation of Israel when he acquired 'foreign wives' for himself?

What was Peter teaching you when he denies his master 3 times,shey you emulate him?
grin grin grin cheesy
[/b]
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 12:33pm On Oct 28, 2020
DappaD:
There I fixed it for you @bolded.
Jesus Christ and the 144,000 are to rule OVER the earth from heaven sir. It's that clear. (1Cor 6:2, Rev 20:6)
Jesus Christ is the FIRST firstfruits resurrected as an immortal spirit being and now resides in heaven. (1Cor 15:20,23,1Peter 3:18)
While the 144,000 are second firstfruits bought from among mankind whose citizenship exists in the heavens NOT the earth.(Philippians 3:21, Rev 14:4) these ones also share the same kind of resurrection Christ had—resurrection to a spirit life indestructible and incorruptible.(1Cor 15:42-44, 51-54)


The “Kingdom of heaven” is rightly so because that's where God’s Kingdom/government is located. The “Kingdom of heaven” is not the same as heaven itself, because God said he was going to establish a Kingdom in heaven and heaven had existed before that time. (Daniel 2:44)



The “New Jerusalem” coming down from heaven is event that symbolizes something else. (Rev 1:1)
The marriage between Jesus Christ(the Lamb) and the bride i.e. “New Jerusalem” made up of those who are adopted spirit sons of God takes place after Armageddon and marks the beginning of the 1000 year Messianic rule; that is when attention is given to righteous inhabitants of the earth in the sense of the “New Jerusalem” coming down to the earth. (Rev 21:2)



The Kingdom of God is on earth yet the world conditions have proved otherwise. I sure hope you're thinking straight though. You no even try sugarcoat your lies sef.



The “new earth” is symbolic. See Genesis 11:1
Simply, it means a society of obedient mankind where righteousness would be the watchword. (2Peter 3:13)



Except one is born of spirit, anointed and sealed on basis on Christ's shed blood, he cannot rule alongside Jesus Christ as a joint heir. (Romans 8:16,17, Revelation 14:1-4)
Pretty much explains why John the Baptist was left out of this arrangement.(Matthew 11:11)
Very Scripturally Authentic.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 12:37pm On Oct 28, 2020
Janosky:
1 Timothy 4:16, NIV: "Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them, because if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers." ..

Your teaching is not only what you say , also what you do, your way of life.

The answer to your question is "Yes !!!!"

Errors & mistakes full the life and teachings of all of them...
That means Bible is full of such errors and teachings.

Do you agree?

I know Mr JaNosense, will change tune now!
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 12:54pm On Oct 28, 2020
Emusan:
That means Bible is full of such errors and teachings.

Do you agree?

I know Mr JaNosense, will change tune now!
Romans 15:4 & 2 Timothy 3:16-17
The Bible reveals the errors and mistakes made by servants of Jehovah God, for our benefit.

Don't get it twisted, Bros.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 12:56pm On Oct 28, 2020
Emusan:
That means Bible is full of such errors and teachings.

Do you agree?

I know Mr JaNosense, will change tune now!
Romans 15:4 & 2 Timothy 3:16-17
The Bible reveals the errors and mistakes made by servants of Jehovah God, for our benefit.

Don't get it twisted, Bros.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Jozzy4: 1:48pm On Oct 28, 2020
livingchrist:
do you even understand anything at all?
It[the body] is sow a natural body but [the body] raised a spiritual body.
Natural body sown =physical body buried

He therefore can't be raised with the Same natural body with which he was sown.

The Spiritual body isn't physical .

That body that appear to the disciples even had wounds and scars . Which is a dishonor. That's not a glorified body.

Whether you call it physical or not, the fact remain that Jesus body rose but in a different state but your organisation denied it.
The truth will always choke you on the neck, Explain that different state ?



It does not change the fact that Jesus rose with his body
And Mary couldn't recognize him?

Only a dummy will deny what has being clear set before you.
Sinners body will be eaten by worm Jesus said so.
but your organisation said Jesus body was destroyed, that means Jesus body was never raised.
Fraudulent organisation.
I actually just play along with you all the while, but I think it's time to knock off your illusions

Mark 9:44 was a reference to the current human body . Not a ressurection body.

Roll it .
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 1:57pm On Oct 28, 2020
Janosky:
Romans 15:4 & 2 Timothy 3:16-17
The Bible reveals the errors and mistakes made by servants of Jehovah God, for our benefit.

Don't get it twisted, Bros.
You're still dancing around!

Does their TEACHINGS and WRITINGS contain ERRORShuh

Which then makes Bible to be uninspired and fallible.

Who is talking about their personal lifehuh
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 2:01pm On Oct 28, 2020
DappaD:
There I fixed it for you @bolded.
Jesus Christ and the 144,000 are to rule OVER the earth from heaven sir. It's that clear. (1Cor 6:2, Rev 20:6)
Jesus Christ is the FIRST firstfruits resurrected as an immortal spirit being and now resides in heaven. (1Cor 15:20,23,1Peter 3:18)
While the 144,000 are second firstfruits bought from among mankind whose citizenship exists in the heavens NOT the earth.(Philippians 3:21, Rev 14:4) these ones also share the same kind of resurrection Christ had—resurrection to a spirit life indestructible and incorruptible.(1Cor 15:42-44, 51-54)


The “Kingdom of heaven” is rightly so because that's where God’s Kingdom/government is located. The “Kingdom of heaven” is not the same as heaven itself, because God said he was going to establish a Kingdom in heaven and heaven had existed before that time. (Daniel 2:44)



The “New Jerusalem” coming down from heaven is event that symbolizes something else. (Rev 1:1)
The marriage between Jesus Christ(the Lamb) and the bride i.e. “New Jerusalem” made up of those who are adopted spirit sons of God takes place after Armageddon and marks the beginning of the 1000 year Messianic rule; that is when attention is given to righteous inhabitants of the earth in the sense of the “New Jerusalem” coming down to the earth. (Rev 21:2)



The Kingdom of God is on earth yet the world conditions have proved otherwise. I sure hope you're thinking straight though. You no even try sugarcoat your lies sef.



The “new earth” is symbolic. See Genesis 11:1
Simply, it means a society of obedient mankind where righteousness would be the watchword. (2Peter 3:13)



Except one is born of spirit, anointed and sealed on basis on Christ's shed blood, he cannot rule alongside Jesus Christ as a joint heir. (Romans 8:16,17, Revelation 14:1-4)
Pretty much explains why John the Baptist was left out of this arrangement.(Matthew 11:11)
cc: Blabbermouth

Notice the dual accomplishment of this God's purpose
John did see Kings on the heavenly throne chosen among Christ's faithful disciples. They're to rule as king upon the Earth (which is the earthly paradise/new Earth in accordance to God's original purpose)

You can't learn this anywhere else
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 2:32pm On Oct 28, 2020
Jozzy4:
Natural body sown =physical body buried

He therefore can't be raised with the Same natural body with which he was sown.

The Spiritual body isn't physical.

That body that appear to the disciples even had wounds and scars . Which is a dishonor. That's not a glorified body.
the body isnt a natural body but a spiritual one.
Jesus wounds and scar wasnt a dishonor, do you even know what is a dishonor?



The truth will always choke you on the neck, Explain that different state ?
what explanation are you looking for? mr choke on your neck.
Jesus body was raise a spiritual body rather than a natural body.




And Mary couldn't recognize him?



I actually just play along with you all the while, but I think it's time to knock off your illusions

Mark 9:44 was a reference to the current human body . Not a ressurection body.

Roll it .
whether you are serious or not it does not hide the fact that you are bereft of the truth.
Mark 9:44 current human condition, you are not ok.
I know the debris was from Lie lie fraudulent Jehovah witness junks.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 2:51pm On Oct 28, 2020
Do Spirit Person have natural(physical)body or Spiritual body?
cc: livingchrist
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 4:22pm On Oct 28, 2020
haddeylium:
Do Spirit Person have natural(physical)body or Spiritual body?
cc: livingchrist
No spirits do not have bodies either physical or Spiritual.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 4:51pm On Oct 28, 2020
livingchrist:
No spirits do not have bodies either physical or Spiritual.
So, Jesus is not resurrected as spirit. cheesy

Physical bodies are made of being with dust, visible to human eyes. So, what does spirit bodies means to you?
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Jozzy4: 5:11pm On Oct 28, 2020
livingchrist:
the body isnt a natural body but a spiritual one.
Flesh and bones is physical. grin grin

Jesus wounds and scar wasnt a dishonor, do you even know what is a dishonor?
Define dishonor to a body ?

Someone who got burnt in an accident, will be raised with a burnt body, use your head.

A perfect body doesn't have scars


what explanation are you looking for? mr choke on your neck.
Jesus body was raise a spiritual body rather than a natural body.
Natural means physical. And it's opposed to Spiritual. ( reference: Mariam Webster definition 12 of natural )

Flesh and bones is pure natural / PHYSICAL. Same body Adam has. You are fooling yourself.


whether you are serious or not it does not hide the fact that you are bereft of the truth.
Mark 9:44 current human condition, you are not ok. [b]
I know the debris was from Lie lie fraudulent Jehovah witness junks.
Mark 9:43 says


If [b] your hand
causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out.

Which hand was he asking to be cut off or left and carried to hell ?

Which hand causes a person to stumble, the present natural body ?

This is not ressurection body. More wahala for who no know Bible
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist:
haddeylium:
So, Jesus is not resurrected as spirit. cheesy

Physical bodies are made of being with dust, visible to human eyes. So, what does spirit bodies means to you?
continue typing jargons.

There is nothing as spirit resurrection organisation is one hell of a satanic organisation.

Lie lie organisation that denies the bodily resurrection of Jesus.

Jesus said spirits have not flesh and bones

Luke 24:39
Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

The natural body is called flesh and blood in the bible not flesh and bones like the fraud janosky said.

Here Jesus said humans did not reveal his identity to peter.
He called humans flesh and blood

Matthew 16:17
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Flesh and blood is the natural physical body of humans.
But Jesus body is called flesh and bones which is alien to the human world.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 7:14pm On Oct 28, 2020
Jozzy4:
Flesh and bones is physical. grin grin



Define dishonor to a body ?

Someone who got burnt in an accident, will be raised with a burnt body, use your head.

A perfect body doesn't have scars




Natural means physical. And it's opposed to Spiritual. ( reference: Mariam Webster definition 12 of natural )

Flesh and bones is pure natural / PHYSICAL. Same body Adam has. You are fooling yourself.




Mark 9:43 says


If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out.

Which hand was he asking to be cut off or left and carried to hell ?

Which hand causes a person to stumble, the present natural body ?

This is not ressurection body. More wahala for who no know Bible
crap as usual.
Wayo scam organisation, your thinking is warped.
Jesus said the worms in hell never dies, meaning those in hell will have corruptible bodies.

Jesus never said you enter into hell with your natural body but rather It is better to live in this life with a maimed body and enter into heaven than to live with your full body and yet enter hell.
Hell is a place where the worms never dies nor the fire is quenched.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by johnw47:
MaxInDHouse:
Thanks, i've told John repeatedly that whatever happens between a man and a woman (married) behind closed doors is "Holy" so far they're both enjoying it. God joined them together as one body and they're now like one soul. But he kept posting it everywhere as if he never heard such before. Even if his pastors failed to teach him sex education and now that he has found out that it has nothing to do with holiness, i think he should know better. I purposely told him in a chat that there are certain aspects of life on earth that those going to heaven will no more engage in that's all and ever since then he's been repeating it in every thread as if heaven will fall because he heard that a preacher is fully enjoying sex life with his own wife! huh
MaxInDHouse, concerning trivina saying she gives you hand and blow jobs whenever she feels like it
you said "whatever happens between a man and a woman (married) behind closed doors is "Holy" so far they're both enjoying it

and AkinwaleJJ, haddeylium, Jozzy4, Janosky, Blabbermouth, all sided with you

so, is blow jobs and anal intercourse etc. between married couples behind closed doors
"holy" so long as they are enjoying it?

perverted and immoral lost fools

Rev 21:8  But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 7:30pm On Oct 28, 2020
livingchrist:
continue typing jargons.
Know you see how inconsistent your belief is with the Bible.

The Bible says Jesus was resurrected as Spirit with spirit body( Which is invisible to human eyes).... agreed?

The body Jesus has before his sacrifice was 'physical body' made of dust and that what makes him a human.

Like Angels in heaven, he was a spirit in his prehuman existence and that's what he was resurrected back as.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 7:39pm On Oct 28, 2020
haddeylium:
Know you see how inconsistent your belief is with the Bible.

The Bible says Jesus was resurrected as Spirit with spirit body( Which is invisible to human eyes).... agreed?

The body Jesus has before his sacrifice was 'physical body' made of dust and that what makes him a human.

Like Angels in heaven, he was a spirit in his prehuman existence and that's what he was resurrected back as.
there is nothing like Spirit body, where is it in the bible?

grin so Jesus was resurrected back as a Spirit person. Did he die as a spirit before that he should be resurrected back as a spirit?

Haha, how is Jehovah like Angels? Jesus is Jehovah God.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 7:43pm On Oct 28, 2020
johnw47:
MaxInDHouse, you said "whatever happens between a man and a woman (married) behind closed doors is "Holy" so far they're both enjoying it

and AkinwaleJJ, haddeylium, Jozzy4, Janosky, Blabbermouth, all sided with you

so, is blow jobs and anal intercourse etc. between married couples behind cloosed doors
is "holy" so long as they are enjoying it?

perverted and immoral lost fools

Rev 21:8  But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.
OK, you win. You are right.

Now, can you stop mentioning me over this matter?
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m):
Emusan:
Then who says they are perfecthuh
The point is: Do the teaching of Noah, Moses, David, Solomon, Jonah, Peter and many others servants of God contain ERROR or WRONG DOCTRINES?
Irrelevant!
The same God bless you...
There is just one Wonderful Counselor {Isaiah 9:6} who commissioned a preaching and teaching program {Matthew 28:19-20} before him God's holy spirit has not bestowed on anyone the gift of teaching {Ephesians 4:11} so neither Noah, Moses, David, Solomon or Jonah was a teacher, granted they were inspired to write or warn their contemporaries.
The one and only person in the list that was tasked to teach is Peter, and according to God's word Peter failed woefully in this regard because he never set a fine example as a teacher who teaches by example.
Before he was anointed with God's holy spirit-
Peter display lack of faith that almost kill him, he cut off someone's ear whereas his master asked him to pray for his enemies, he betrayed Jesus three times and even swear never to have seen Jesus before.
After his anointing-
Peter shy away denying his fellow gentile Christian brothers because of the fear of Jewish Christians.
Talking about teaching Peter didn't set a fine example yet Jesus tasked him to feed his sheep {John 21:15-17 compare to Matthew 16:18-19; Luke 22:31-32} meaning that Jesus wasn't looking for a perfect teacher like himself because that's not possible, but at least a person must be willing to dedicate his time, effort and resources to what Jesus count as the most important work in the history of mankind.
Jesus didn't replace or demote Peter, he chose Paul as the thirteenth Apostle {Act 9:15} to TEACH where Peter failed to inculcate the right thing in the minds of the sheep! Galatians 2:11-14
That's why Paul was given the spirit of teaching because Peter didn't measure up, but Jesus still made Peter the mouthpiece amongst the Apostles! Act 2:14, 3:4, 12
You'll notice that Peter never wrote a gospel, neither did he address any specific congregation with a letter (to teach like Paul) but he remained the mouthpiece of the Apostles.
So if the GB as an imperfect body of anointed Christians err in teaching and doctrine, it's in their midst that Jesus will use one or two persons to correct them.
What will show that they are for Jesus is not how perfect they're able to deliver the teachings and doctrines entrusted to them. But the outcome of their stewardship in the activities of those taking instructions from them! Matthew 7:16-18
That's why i keep asking anyone who feels like the GB is not qualified to represent Christ's chosen ones, "please present a better performing group of leaders and let's examine the outcome of their teachings in the lives and activities of those following them"
Thanks and God bless you! smiley
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 8:30pm On Oct 28, 2020
livingchrist:
there is nothing like Spirit body, where is it in the bible?
Physic body - Physical body
Spirit body- Spirit'ual body

Physical body is material and is Visible in its state to human eyes. Spirit'ual body is the opposite
If you agree Jesus was resurrected with a spiritual body, Then, he's not visible in his spirit nature.

grin so Jesus was resurrected back as a Spirit person. Did he die as a spirit before that he should be resurrected back as a spirit?
Jesus' life didn't begins on Earth. He was spirit person in heaven in his prehuman existence.
Jehovah prepared a body for him and he become wholly human with Physical body/Flesh(not spiritual body). He died completely after sacrificing his life as human and not to take it back again.
He was resurrected/made alive as a spirit (1pet3:18)

It two things. it either you deny Jesus present nature as spirit being or You accept he was resurrected with a physical body! cheesy

Haha, how is Jehovah like Angels?
Jehovah's nature is spirit and he's invisible to human's eyes (John 4:24,John 1:18,1 Tim 1:18)
He makes his Angels spirit too(ps 104:4). They are invisible too but can materialized as human to be visible but their nature as spirit being is invisible.
Jesus was in God's nature/form in his prehuman existence( Php 2:5-cool
To carry out his earthly assignment, he had to take on physical/human body to be visible
He was resurrected back to glory he had in heaven as a spirit being.

Then apostle Paul said Jesus again became invisible to human sight, dwelling “in unapproachable light, whom not one of men has seen or can see.”​—1Ti 6:14-16

No man has ever seen Jesus in his resurrected spirit nature.
But, they did see him in his materialized human body!


Jesus is Jehovah God.
This is not the topic of the discuss.
I'll pass
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by johnw47:
Blabbermouth:
OK, you win. You are right.

Now, can you stop mentioning me over this matter?
good, u now c the common sense truth of the matter
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 8:57pm On Oct 28, 2020
livingchrist:
there is nothing like Spirit body, where is it in the bible?

grin so Jesus was resurrected back as a Spirit person. Did he die as a spirit before that he should be resurrected back as a spirit?

Haha, how is Jehovah like Angels? Jesus is Jehovah God.
The word, "Spirit body" refers to the spiritual body of a spirit person/spiritual beings who dwell in the spiritual realm.
Don't get it twisted

John 17:4-5....

If you don't grasp each point Jesus Christ made there, and you're still claiming he's glorified human body in heaven.
Omo, you have entered one chance.

If claim Jesus Christ is Jehovah, John 20:17, Matthew 10:32, Revelation 3:5 Jesus Christ have reason your matter already.
1 John 4:9,14-15 ,Bros , you're on your own.
Confirmed
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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky:
livingchrist:
crap as usual.
Wayo scam organisation, your thinking is warped.
Jesus said the worms in hell never dies, meaning those in hell will have corruptible bodies.

Jesus never said you enter into hell with your natural body but rather It is better to live in this life with a maimed body and enter into heaven than to live with your full body and yet enter hell.
Hell is a place where the worms never dies nor the fire is quenched.
Worms no dey die inside fire na only human being go dey torture and torment there.
Gross Stupidity !


WAYO man dey DECEIVE himself dey quote Mark 9:43 dey call Gehenna "hell"
What a delusion !
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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 10:23pm On Oct 28, 2020
haddeylium:
Physic body - Physical body
Spirit body- Spirit'ual body

Physical body is material and is Visible in its state to human eyes. Spirit'ual body is the opposite
If you agree Jesus was resurrected with a spiritual body, Then, he's not visible in his spirit nature.


Jesus' life didn't begins on Earth. He was spirit person in heaven in his prehuman existence.
Jehovah prepared a body for him and he become wholly human with Physical body/Flesh(not spiritual body). He died completely after sacrificing his life as human and not to take it back again.
He was resurrected/made alive as a spirit (1pet3:18)

It two things. it either you deny Jesus present nature as spirit being or You accept he was resurrected with a physical body! cheesy


Jehovah's nature is spirit and he's invisible to human's eyes (John 4:24,John 1:18,1 Tim 1:18)
He makes his Angels spirit too(ps 104:4). They are invisible too but can materialized as human to be visible but their nature as spirit being is invisible.
Jesus was in God's nature/form in his prehuman existence( Php 2:5-cool
To carry out his earthly assignment, he had to take on physical/human body to be visible
He was resurrected back to glory he had in heaven as a spirit being.
what happened to Jesus body?

Then apostle Paul said Jesus again became invisible to human sight, dwelling “in unapproachable light, whom not one of men has seen or can see.”​—1Ti 6:14-16

No man has ever seen Jesus in his resurrected spirit nature.
But, they did see him in his materialized human body!



This is not the topic of the discuss.
I'll pass
which the happy and only Potentate will show in its own appointed times. He is the King of those who rule as kings and Lord of those who rule as lords,+ 16 the one alone having immortality,+ who dwells in unapproachable light,+ whom no man has seen or can see.+ To him be honor and eternal might. Amen.
Nwt

Good
Jesus is the only Potentate and the king of kings

This makes Jesus the only sovereign this makes Jesus Jehovah because
Jehovah is the king of kings
Daniel 2:47
The king answered unto Daniel, and said, Of a truth it is, that your God is a God of gods, and a Lord of kings, and a revealer of secrets, seeing thou couldst reveal this secret.

And the sovereign
Psalms 83:18
That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.


If Jesus is The only Potentate it means there is no other sovereign apart from him which means he is Jehovah.

Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 10:30pm On Oct 28, 2020
livingchrist:
what happened to Jesus body?



which the happy and only Potentate will show in its own appointed times. He is the King of those who rule as kings and Lord of those who rule as lords,+ 16 the one alone having immortality,+ who dwells in unapproachable light,+ whom no man has seen or can see.+ To him be honor and eternal might. Amen.
Nwt

Good
Jesus is the only Potentate and the king of kings

This makes Jesus the only sovereign this makes Jesus Jehovah because
Jehovah is the king of kings
Daniel 2:47
The king answered unto Daniel, and said, Of a truth it is, that your God is a God of gods, and a Lord of kings, and a revealer of secrets, seeing thou couldst reveal this secret.

And the sovereign
Psalms 83:18
That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.


If Jesus is The only Potentate it means there is no other sovereign apart from him which means he is Jehovah.
1 Timothy 1:17 (Compare John 5:37, John17:3 , John 20:17 and Revelation 3:5,12,21 from the mouth of Jesus Christ) grin cheesy grin grin


1 Timothy 1:17
"Now to the King eternal, immortal, and invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen."

John 5:37, King James Bible
"And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape".


Bros, no dey DECEIVE yourself

Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 10:40pm On Oct 28, 2020
livingchrist:
what happened to Jesus body?
If Jehovah takes care of Moses body
Can't he do the same with Jesus body


which the happy and [b]only Potentate will show in its own appointed times. He is the King of those who rule as kings and Lord of those who rule as lords,+ 16 the one alone having immortality,+ who dwells in unapproachable light,+ whom no man has seen or can see.+ To him be honor and eternal might. Amen.
Jesus is [b] the only Potentate and the king of kings
You're sweating on another topic

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