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| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 4:11am On Oct 29, 2020 |
haddeylium:you cannot answer a simple question, what happened to the body of Jesus? Pathetic Stop rigmaroling, fraud You're sweating on another topicThis is a zombie like attitude, what is this? When you deny the creator this is the resultant effect. Smh That verse said Jesus is God. 2 Likes |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 4:19am On Oct 29, 2020 |
Janosky:see this scam, what happened to the body of Jesus you cannot fit answer. Your fraud of an organisation said Jesus body suffer corruption. Lie lie, 1 Tithothy 6 says Jesus is God. 2 Likes |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Jozzy4: 7:32am On Oct 29, 2020 |
livingchrist:I told you to stop applying the verse to a ressurection body Jesus was not reffering to a ressurection body , but the current one.  " And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. " Luke 16:23 kJB With which body ? |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 10:14am On Oct 29, 2020 |
Jozzy4:stop? Because it does not suit your fraudulent organisation teachings? If Jesus was not referring to the resurrection body how come the worm does not die? So the worm that eat the current human body does not die? You are a comic relief seriously. What happened to the body of Jesus? Fraud jozzy 2 Likes |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 10:45am On Oct 29, 2020 |
[quote author=livingchrist post=95450670] This is a zombie like attitude, what is this? Now, you're tongue-tied! Don't derail the thread. it's not about Jesus' divinity but his nature. Still on the verse you're ignoring. Shebi Jesus is still human with flesh in heaven nah.. How did Jesus' became invisible? Which nature of him as no man ever seen or can see? |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 11:13am On Oct 29, 2020 |
Another useless episode from deluded JWs! MaxInDHouse: So do they give wrong warning or their writings contain errors? The one and only person in the list that was tasked to teach is Peter, and according to God's word Peter failed woefully in this regard because he never set a fine example as a teacher who teaches by example. Again, does Peter's writings and teachings contain errors and mistakes? I can see how you deluded JWs are just changing the narrative. Jesus didn't replace or demote Peter, But your sister once said here that ANYBODY who fall out of God's moral standards won't be given a place to rule with Christ. Now a partial Jesus didn't replace Peter but today many CHOSEN AND ANOINTED JWS can be replaced by the same Jesus if they made simple mistake like Peter did. So much for the back and forth confusion doctrines. he chose Paul as the thirteenth Apostle {Act 9:15} to TEACH where Peter failed to inculcate the right thing in the minds of the sheep! Galatians 2:11-14 Does that make the writing of Peter to be fallible  So if the GB as an imperfect body of anointed Christians err in teaching and doctrine, it's in their midst that Jesus will use one or two persons to correct them. But anybody who falls out of God's moral standards won't be qualified for heaven, how come people are being resurrected to heaven when they err and wrong? What will show that they are for Jesus is not how perfect they're able to deliver the teachings and doctrines entrusted to them. But the outcome of their stewardship in the activities of those taking instructions from them! Matthew 7:16-18 Does their teachings and doctrines contains errors? Why this simple question is so hard for you to answer? That's why i keep asking anyone who feels like the GB is not qualified to represent Christ's chosen ones, "please present a better performing group of leaders and let's examine the outcome of their teachings in the lives and activities of those following them" You'll keep asking because the people you're asking aren't in competition with you, it's only JWs that are in competition with other just continue to deceive themselves with over self righteousness. Who are you to examine anyone? Are you God? Very soon now, if you run out of your delusion you start with the phrase "stick to what you believe and I stick to what I believe" Thanks and God bless you! The same God bless you too 2 Likes |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 11:25am On Oct 29, 2020 |
Dem don catch my JW brothers o! Maximus don enter one chance. Nice one Emusan! |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 11:27am On Oct 29, 2020 |
Haddeylium and DappaD bobo, I will give you a detailed and scripturally supported reply in days to come. As e be so ehn, time no dey. |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by achorladey: 2:05pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
So it can be seen that a person does not become alive from God’s standpoint until such time as he is free from condemnation resulting from sinfulness. In the case of those who will rule with Jesus Christ, Jehovah God, on the basis of his Son’s sacrifice, “declares them righteous” and thus views them as being perfect, without sin, while yet in the flesh on earth. (Rom. 8:33)............WT Key: Declared RIGHTEOUS, PERFECT, WITHOUT SIN while yet in the FLESH on the earth. JEHOVAH already sees the GB as righteous, perfect, without sin while still on earth in the flesh.........from the mouth of GB The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction. In fact, the Watch Tower Publications Index includes the heading “Beliefs Clarified,” which lists adjustments in our Scriptural understanding since 1870. Of course, Jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food. So how can we answer Jesus’ question: “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave?”...............WT Key: not inspired, not infallible, cannot produce PERFECT SPIRITUAL FOOD. The same mouth that says [b]JEHOVAH declares [/b] them, RIGHTEOUS, PERFECT WITHOUT SIN. The same mouth now says [b]they are ERROR PRONE, INFALLIBLE and cannot produce PERFECTION while in a PERFECT state in the FLESH. Since Jesus didn't say.........   JEHOVAH and JESUS are on different wavelength in the SCRIPTURAL spectrum concerning the GB The same mouth that says it can err in doctrine and organization direction now says........ At that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not..........WT Key: 1. err in doctrine and organization direction 2. Jehovah's organization life saving direction. What comes to mind is the error filled Jehovah's organization life-saving direction which are not strategic and not practical must be obeyed and followed. Now this........ This means that the Governing Body will no longer be with us on earth. However, the great crowd will remain organized. Capable brothers from among the other sheep will take the lead. We will need to show our loyalty by supporting these brothers and by following their God-given direction. Our survival will depend on it!....WT The GB whom are error prone, infallible and cannot produce perfection handed over the future of the OTHER SHEEP and their SURVIVAL to fellow (OTHER SHEEP in this case those called HELPERS to the GB) RIDDEN with errors in doctrine and organization direction who have been following directions not practical and strategic. |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Jozzy4: 2:41pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
If the only thing you gained on this thread is that Jesus wasn't raised in physical body which is flesh and bones. You are liberated. livingchrist:the place Jesus was reffering to is Gehenna . U skip your Bible study classes I guess, do worms at Gehenna not die ? Jesus died so that worms can have everlasting life ? Which body Did the rich man have since ressurection haven't occur ? |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 2:51pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
haddeylium:so divinity is not nature? Scam. Why are you asking me, it is there in the bible Jesus has flesh and bones. |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:54pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
ARGUMENTATIVE Emusan!  Why do you always resort to fury and insult when someone is responding to your questions? Patapata you'll say you're not convinced, that will never stop others from being convinced that the GB of Jehovah's Witnesses are the one and only little group that Jehovah and Jesus are using to feed the sheep. Peter surely erred in teaching by example! And none of those who lived before Christ were given to the spirit of teaching. For your information, the first time God released his spirit to anoint people with special gifts was after Jesus' ascension to heaven, before then the only thing they do was receive messages and warnings. And they all committed blunders even while delivering God's message and warnings. As for the gift to teach it was Jesus that was in charge of that {John 14:26} but as for those who will rule with Jesus in heaven sorry my friend even Jesus himself has no authority over that! Matthew 20:20-23 So it's Jehovah that's choosing and relieving any who failed to measure up to his requirements for that, Jesus can only teach as a perfect teacher or Wonderful Counselor but the sole authority to choose those going to heaven belongs only to Jehovah! Jesus' part here is to anoint anyone that Jehovah has chosen just as the ancient highpriest in Israel were only privileged to anoint God's chosen King with oil. So as the new highpriest that's what Jesus is doing, he's not in charge of the selection of those who will rule with him as Kings and priests in heaven! That's why the Bible book of Revelations made it clear that there are two different names written on their foreheads, Jehovah's name and that of the Lamb (Jesus), Jehovah draws them but Jesus teaches them {John 6:44} and out of those taught Jehovah selects those who will rule. So just as Jehovah rejected Saul to continue ruling as king over his people for a reason best known to Jehovah, a former member of the chosen may be rejected to continue with the privilege. Saul would have lived with his sons till oldage if he realized that Jehovah is the real King who chooses whoever he pleases, nothing stops him from continuing as an Israelite subject. The same thing happens to anyone who lost the privilege of being part of the 144,000!  Emusan: 1 Like |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 2:59pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
Jozzy4:  flesh and bones is not physical body. Can you give me anywhere in the bible where humans where said to be flesh and bones? Fraud the place Jesus was reffering to is Gehenna . U skip your Bible study classes I guess, do worms at Gehenna not die ? Jesus died so that worms can have everlasting life ?fraud loving jozzy you are covering the lies of your false witness organisation. Do worms continue to eat physical bodies forever? How will you know what eternal life is when you love to gulp in satan witness lie lie. |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Jozzy4: 3:09pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
livingchrist:Gen 2:23 The man said, “This is now bone of my bones, And flesh of my flesh; She shall be called Woman, Genesis 5:2 he called them humans So jesus died flesh and bones and raised same physical flesh and bones ?
Worms don't eat a corruptible body forever . Are you admitting again sinners have an INCORRUPTIBLE body ? 2 Likes |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 4:36pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
livingchrist: Now, You agree he's invisible and no man has ever seen him or can see him in his resurrected Spirit nature ( 1Ti 6:14-16 ) Yes, because spirit doesn't have flesh or Bones like human. He Materialized as human to be visible like the spirit Angels normally do. But, his nature still remains as Spirit! Cepheni! |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 8:13pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
achorladey: Watchtower issue of 1970's na you, Achorladey bring here to MISLEAD Nairaland That person who first called you "Snake..." knows you're Deceitful well well Even though Achorladey is aware that JWs have publicly acknowledged mistakes made in the past. Bros , you are..... Haabaaaaaa !
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| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 9:09pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
Emusan: @1 Luke 19:11 (compare Luke24:21), Peter and other disciples believe the erroneous teaching that the "kingdom of God would arrive IMMEDIATELY" and " Redeem Israel" from Roman Oppression because Jesus Christ always preach "Repent for the kingdom of God is @ hand. Na them still write Luke24:21.19:11 & Acts1:6-7 put for your Bible, Mr LIENUS Mr LIENUS, did Jesus Christ teach them he will Redeem Israel and the kingdom will arrive IMMEDIATELY ? (Acts1:6-7) . *@2 My Sister is very correct. Yes ! 1 Corinthians13:12, Paul did not know everything even though God's holy spirit inspired him. Still ,he wrote in Hebrews10:36-39 , that some fellow believers will "shrink back to destruction" and miss their heavenly reward. Revelation 2:10 ,James 1:12 and 2 Peter 2:20-22, Jesus Christ, James and Peter says na so. Endurance and faithfulness results in the crown of life. Backslide and miss the reward. Shikena ! @3 Mr LIENUS, is Judas Iscariot in heaven? Is Ananias and Saphira in heaven ? Is Diotrephes,Hymaeneus & Alexander in heaven? |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by achorladey: 9:38pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
Janosky: Your organization website na carrier of MISLEADING INFORMATION D later you and your brothers will direct people there to learn more. The watchtower you talked about is found there. I reach there before you |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 9:38pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
livingchrist:John 5:37, Jesus Christ knows your deceit... John 5:37, you're pretending to follow Jesus and now you FALSELY claim the word of Jesus na Scam .1 Corinthians15:24-27,45, did Paul not teach you Jesus Christ is a glorified, life giving spirit after his ascension ? Why is 1 Timothy 6 difficult for you to understand? Bros, receive SENSE |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 9:47pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
achorladey: It was Deceitful of Achorladey to create a false impression. Has Achorladey delete the errors of Jehovah's servants in his own Bible? |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by achorladey: 9:56pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
Janosky: This is what is before you......... Does their teachings and doctrines contains errors? Why this simple question is so hard for you to answer? Emusan question was........how come people are being resurrected to heaven when they err and wrong? The people in question are your GB and those you called "anointed Christians" in your midst. Luke 19:11 and Luke 24:21.........they THOUGHT not they TEACH They were HOPING not THEY TEACH  3 Likes |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by achorladey: 10:01pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
Janosky: What is the FALSE IMPRESSION? are you saying your magazines and websites carries FALSE IMPRESSION and MISLEADING INFORMATION? |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 10:11pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
achorladey: Your misguided ignorance is bliss.. If you don't know how the disciples came about Luke24:21 and Luke 19:11, na your own wahala be that.. the Expo is available if you wear goggles |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by achorladey: 10:21pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
Janosky: Cited Scriptures, you were unable to quote all of it. I decided to bring out words from the same scripture you cited. The next thing is to palm me into MISGUIDED IGNORANCE Tell me how they came about those scriptures after all you are not misguided and not ignorant .2 Likes |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by johnw47: 6:41am On Oct 30, 2020 |
false jw trivina you will give max oralsex whenever you feel like it and you mad max said it's "holy" what a married couple do behind closed doors however that's not what false jw org say: https://jwfacts.com/watchtower/quotes/oral-anal-sex.php The Watchtower defines fornication to include oral and anal sex. As such, Jehovah's Witnesses are not to participate in oral or anal sex, even if married and both parties consent. If found out, the couple will be stripped of any privileges they hold in the congregation. They can be disfellowshipped for these practices if they refuse to stop participating in them. ^^ 1Th 4:3 For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication: Oral or anal sex between married couples was classified as; a disfellowshipping offence 1974 no longer a disfellowshipping offence 1978 once again a disfellowshipping offence 1983 Since 2011 vague ^^ those fallen angels that visit your head quarters are confused, of course jw org calls oralsex "perverted", "obscene" and "pornia": "perverted" acts, such as oral or anal sex, within the marriage the apostle refers to as "disgraceful" sexual appetites and "obscene" practices. can also be designated as "porneia" Watchtower 1969 12/15 pp.765-766 Some have contended, however, that absolutely anything done between husband and wife is permissible. However, that view is not supported in the Bible a covetous desire for sexual excitement is not approved by God. trivina and mad max false jw org doesn't support your perversions but don't worry haddeylium, Jozzy4, Janosky, and Blabbermouth do 3 Likes |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 7:27am On Oct 30, 2020 |
Jozzy4:Jesus died as flesh and bones? That is a new one. That was a statement of Adam saying Eve was created from his flesh and bones nothing else. Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. Only physical humans have flesh and bones not spirits even if angels appear it does not mean they have flesh and bones, but Jesus body was real Jesus is not a liar like jwo. A body that can eaten by worms is a corrupt body it is immaterial whether the body last for a short time or forever.Meanwhile, what happened to Jesus body? Wayo jozzy 2 Likes |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 7:31am On Oct 30, 2020 |
haddeylium:Having flesh and bones does not mean Jesus cant be invincible, after all ot is not a natural body. 2 Likes |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 8:02am On Oct 30, 2020 |
Janosky: Who taught this ERRONEOUS TEACHING that Kingdom of God would arrive IMMEDIATELY and REDEEM ISREAL from Roman oppression? 1. The Apostle 2. The Pharisees 3. Jesus Christ Na them still write Luke24:21.19:11 & Acts1:6-7 put for your Bible, Mr LIENUS Which means, Bible is fallible and can't be trusted since it contains erroneous teachings. *@[b]2 Of course she must be correct because it's a case of blind supporting blind. And, “But my righteous one will live by faith. And I take no pleasure in the one who shrinks back.” 39 But we do not belong to those who shrink back and are destroyed, but to those who have faith and are saved. Heb 10:38-39 You're not among the righteous one (who will live in heaven) because you don't live by faith and you'll be DESTROYED because anyone who is not part of God's righteous one are ALL SHRINK BACK AND DESTROYED according to Heb 10:38-39 Does Paul not know EVERYTHING MEAN what Paul wrote CONTAIN ERRORS OR WRONG TEACHINGS? That's the question your empty skull still trying to dodge. Mr Janosense Revelation 2:10 ,James 1:12 and 2 Peter 2:20-22, Jesus Christ, James and Peter says na so. Just like acholadey said my question is how come people are being resurrected to heaven when they err and wrong? You can see that you didn't address my point but just beating around. And what your sister said was that "If any anointed Christian who has been chosen for heavenly rule ERRED s/he will BE REPLACED even thou if the person REPENT, the person will only be given chance to live in paradise earth, NOT IN HEAVEN AGAIN." Which is the reason for that my question! That's contradictions....Confused JWs! @3 Those who shrink back are not part of God's righteous ones and will be DESTROYED (no earthly paradise for them according to Heb 10) as ALL GOD'S RIGHTEOUS ONES will reign with Christ. Mr JaNosense 1 Like |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 8:14am On Oct 30, 2020 |
livingchrist: You're a joke 1Ti 6:14-16 -No man has seen or can see him in his glorified state. - His anointed disciples have to die and be resurrected as spirit creatures in heaven with him before they can see him in his glorified state (John 17:24) You were saying? Modified the quoted with the right verse |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 11:14am On Oct 30, 2020 |
Emusan:Mr LIENUS no give yourself HBP over a matter you have ZERO jurisdiction , you hear ? God's Sovereign Choice Romans 9:14-16 …14What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Certainly not! 15For He says to Moses: “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” 16So then, it does not depend on man’s desire or effort, but on God’s mercy" Jehovah knows every motive and See's the heart, even if Mr LIENUS & his pally lives for eternity, they won't ever know shishi .When a servant of Jehovah loses the prospect of heavenly life, he/she knows !!!. Romans 8:16-17. I made a point about Paul and you clearly understood what I meant, throw that your question into the dustbin ! |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Christmasdon(m): 11:33am On Oct 30, 2020 |
I'm a christian and i believe in Jesus the son of GOD. and am not a muslim. |
| Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 11:46am On Oct 30, 2020 |
Emusan: God's word is trustworthy and inspired. 2 Timothy 3 16-17. John 17:17. Hebrews 4:12. . John 16:16-18, Mr LIENUS, any doctrine Jesus Christ taught the disciples which they didn't clearly understand would be misconstrued because they lacked proper understanding. Because Jesus Christ knows their limitations, he continues to teach them after his death, & ascension. Even now, learning NEVER stops. (Luke24:44-45,49. John 17:3). Jesus Christ teaching: "Repent for the kingdom of God is @ hand (Mark1:13-15)", to the disciples understanding meant the immediate arrival of God's kingdom to crush the oppressive yoke of Roman dominion over them (Luke 24:21. Luke 19:11. Acts1:6-7). . |
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