edoairways:

She didn't lie. Secondly why were the army officials uncomfortable when an unscheduled visit was made? Why did they have to wait for 30 mins before letting the judicial panel

When strangers come into your home, please give them unfettered access.

FunkyAlhaji2015:


A pathologist needs to inspect a hospital know where the morgue is, or if there is some sort of cover up going on regarding the mortuary. A pathologist can not know if there is a morgue or not from hearing the name of a hospital, hence the need to visit the hospital.
Where is the contradiction? He needs to visit to know. Kai!!!

N/B: Pls use know not "no"

Based on what u have said, it means that u are smarter than d team that decided to carry along a pathologist to a hospital which u say doesn't have a mortuary. Y would d team carry a pathologist if there was no mortuary? Didn't they no that there was no mortuary in d facility?

SmartyPants:


Sir I said the hospital is/was under renovation and you should make of that what you will.

Logically:

The hospital is not/has not been in good condition and therefore should not be expected to be in the normal state of a fully functional hospital.

That, I expected, would lead you to conclude that you should not find it surprising if some things which ought to be present are not present.

Does renovation mean that certain things in d hospital aren't present or that they are present but being upgraded?

lexy2014:


Does renovation mean that certain things in d hospital aren't present or that they are present but being upgraded?

It could mean they are totally degraded and in need of an upgrade and have not yet received it. Hence...the need for the renovation.

Ayor93:

So yoy believe an hospital won't have a mortuary.
you're sic man

You're the one that's mentally derailed cos anyone that have been to that place knows that there's no mortuary there but d lies u all believe in wont make u see d truth. Go to that hospital yourself and make findings...

But shey in d previous news they said army carried the dead bodies to IDH Let them go there and investigate also.

Mylove55:
follow protocols.
how can army remove morgue within 30mins.
sense is far from ipob

They transfer it via Xender to another location.

SmartyPants:


It could mean they are totally degraded and in need of an upgrade and have not yet received it. Hence...the need for the renovation.

For d fact that something is "totally degraded", does it mean that d thing isn't present? Does "totally degraded" mean d same thing as non existent? Was d hospital that u say was "under renovation" "totally degraded"?

Sweetas2:
I smell cover up here ....from the usual Nigeria army lies

Although what was the judicial panel expecting to get out of this ...a clear transparent investigation? No not in this lieing country nobody believes this politicians and the army any more

We will make it right.... enough is enough

Guy who did you send to protest at lekki toll gate tgat was shot by army and is missing? Please state it here or totally shut the hell up.
U wan make fake story real by force

you are right!

slawormiir:
Damnnn niggarrrr
Isoright
Confused bunch of miscreants called army
30 minutes is enough for them to clean up their mess
But no matter what we will get them


Ogbeni there are lot of no good sons and daughters of bitches out there in the Nigerian army

First they denied being there
After that they agreed they were there but they didn't use live bullet
They said it was blank ammunition

Now they denied panel from accessing the morgue for 30 minutes...it is now obvious the army is up to no good

lexy2014:


For d fact that something is "totally degraded", does it mean that d thing isn't present? Does "totally degraded" mean d same thing as non existent? Was d hospital that u say was "under renovation" "totally degraded"?

Yes to the first question. The status of a functional unit like a morgue is determined by use and not by the existence of the building on its own. The building can be there but if it is not being used then the morgue does not exist.


By the way, why does the hospital as a whole have to be totally degraded for some parts of it to be so?

In this case when they say there is no morgue they are not necessarily saying there is no building that used to be the morgue or that there is no space allocated for it.

They are simply saying there is currently no place that is designated and functioning as the morgue.

Misterone:
this ís why we label you people IPOB, you don't reason with your brains but with your anus. in the write up, it was clearly stated that there was a pathologist in the team. so you think a pathologist would not know a morgue that is in use even if evacuated? or how can the army evacuate óver 30 bodies in 30 mins and there would be no sign of the bodies, not even the coldness of the morgue to show that it is working or the smell of the chemicals or stains or signs that the place is in use? so í ask "do you know more than the pathologist"? this is the same accusation of a fake massacre that you people saw in your dreams that you want to bring to life

After reading your post, i realised you are not smart. The only thing i feel i can tell u n ur head doesnt need to work hard to figure out is ' i am from d North Central'. I hope u can process that.

lexy2014:


Based on what u have said, it means that u are smarter than d team that decided to carry along a pathologist to a hospital which u say doesn't have a mortuary. Y would d team carry a pathologist if there was no mortuary? Didn't they no that there was no mortuary in d facility?

Will there have been need for an inquiry if we were to believe every party's word of mouth?? The inquiry needs to visit every location to gather information for itself. There is no morgue at the hospital but people have been petitioning the inquiry that they is a morgue and the bodies of the deceased are hidden there, hence need for the visit with pathologists in board. To ascertain the truth.

Lexy2014

FunkyAlhaji2015:


Will there have been need for an inquiry if we were to believe every party's word if mouth?? The inquiry needs to visit every location to gather information for itself. They is no morgue in the hospital but people have been petitioning the inquiry that they was a morgue and the bodies of the deceased are hidden there, hence need for the visit with pathologists in board

Did d panel not no that there was no morgue there in d first place that they decided to go there for investigation and to carry a pathologist with them?

SmartyPants:


Yes to the first question. The status of a functional unit like a morgue is determined by use and not by the existence of the building on its own. The building can be there but if it is not being used then the morgue does not exist.


By the way, why does the hospital as a whole have to be totally degraded for some parts of it to be so?

In this case when they say there is no morgue they are not necessarily saying there is no building that used to be the morgue or that there is no space allocated for it.

They are simply saying there is currently no place that is designated and functioning as the morgue.

If there's a building that is designated as a classroom, it's still a classroom whether functional or otherwise, until it is put to other use. If a building was designated to serve as a morgue, it is still a morgue. It's non functionality doesn't deprive it of it's designated status. It's like saying a car isn't a car because it's non functional.

According to u:
"By the way, why does the hospital as a whole have to be totally degraded for some parts of it to be so?"

U tell me. It's u who said d hospital was under renovation.

So now ur story is changing from d non existence of a morgue to a building exist that used to function as a morgue but no longer does.

PLEASE, SHOULD INFORM THE PANEL TO CHECK 68 nigerian army ref hospital myhoing barracks yaba, they have a motuary there, it is tucked away at the sports field, just a little distance from the hospital complex

lexy2014:


If there's a building that is designated as a classroom, it's still a classroom whether functional or otherwise, until it is put to other use. If a building was designated to serve as a morgue, it is still a morgue. It's non functionality doesn't deprive it of it's designated status. It's like saying a car isn't a car because it's non functional.

According to u:
"By the way, why does the hospital as a whole have to be totally degraded for some parts of it to be so?"

U tell me. It's u who said d hospital was under renovation.

So now ur story is changing from d non existence of a morgue to a building exist that used to function as a morgue but no longer does.

Young man I don't think I have time to do this with you all day.

1. If there is a building that is designated a classroom and then is no longer designated a classroom, perhaps because it is no longer fit for purpose, then it is simply not a classroom. This requires no debate. As to your car analogy, the proper analogy is car is to building as taxi is to morgue. So while a car is always a car, if you stop using it as a taxi it is a car but not a taxi. Similarly, a building can be used as a morgue until you stop using it as such. There is little room for argument here so I don't know what your problem is.


2. Secondly, once again, you refuse to be straightforward.

I started by pointing out to you two alternative explanations for why IDH does not have a morgue. You chose to run down the rabbit hole with the second one and now you are turning around to claim that I am changing positioning when right from the get go i posited that there were multiple possible explanations. If you have a short attention span don't think I do.

For the third and final time, I don't know why IDH does not have a morgue. As to why it is possible that they do not have one,
a. This is Nigeria where too many things are not as should be
b. It is stated that the place is under renovation which could mean there is a non functional morgue space to be renovated.

We do not need to agree so I am not pursuing this with you any further.

yusufu16:


Lekki massacre never happened. Let them go and bring forensic experts. The result will shock you. FAKE news has caused a lot of damages to Lagos at the moment

Were there soldiers at Lekki? yes
Did they shoot? Yes
Did they shoot at protesters? I don’t know
Did they shoot live rounds? Evidence suggests three types of shell casings at the scene. Blank rounds, rounds from FN rifle and pistol rounds
Who fired what; I don’t know
Did anyone die at the Lekki tollgate? People sustained gunshot injuries but I don’t know
Who ordered the soldiers there? I don’t know

There are a lot of unknowns and the panel need to uncover the truth; that is the aim and not to follow bait

SmartyPants:



Young man I don't think I have time to do this with you all day.

1. If there is a building that is designated a classroom and then is no longer designated a classroom, perhaps because it is no longer fit for purpose, then it is simply not a classroom. This requires no debate. As to your car analogy, the proper analogy is car is to building as taxi is to morgue. So while a car is always a car, if you stop using it as a taxi it is a car but not a taxi. Similarly, a building can be used as a morgue until you stop using it as such. There is little room for argument here so I don't know what your problem is.


2. Secondly, once again, you refuse to be straightforward.

I started by pointing out to you two alternative explanations for why IDH does not have a morgue. You chose to run down the rabbit hole with the second one and now you are turning around to claim that I am changing positioning when right from the get go i posited that there were multiple possible explanations. If you have a short attention span don't think I do.

We do not need to agree so I am not pursuing this with you any further.

1. Pls read again:

"If there's a building that is designated as a classroom, it's still a classroom whether functional or otherwise, until it is put to other use."

That is different from:

"If there is a building that is designated a classroom and then is no longer designated a classroom, perhaps because it is no longer fit for purpose, then it is simply not a classroom."


Interpretation: except d designation of a thing changes, it is still what it was originally designated as irrespective of it's level of functionality or idleness.

2. Once again, u are a victim of your own words. Am not d one who told u to back up ur so called first alternative with a second contradictory alternative. So spare me all these ur personal attacks. Next time, choose ur words properly before u air them. U can't be blaming for your personal shortcomings

NewBalance:


When strangers come into your home, please give them unfettered access.

That is not an excuse. That place is a public place

SoBright101:
Life holds many changes but the truth shall prevail

Do Nigerians noticed the real tribalist on here since tribalism has reduced as they can't hold the urge to use the word "IPOB, Afonja etc"

Every evil against south shall perish

The unrepentant tribalists of Nigeria are from the north of Nigeria which used its loyal military dictators to create 20 new political units in one region - north - but created an average of 8.5 new political units in each of the two southern regions that formed independent Nigeria with the northern region in 1960.

No country formed by different regions ever used land mass or population statistics as yardstick to proliferate too many new political units in an area with larger land mass or higher population.


Because doing that is like tilting the balance of power to the area where higher number of political units were created.

That’s what sparked off dissent which they foolishly called tribalism from the eastern region.

yusufu16:


Lekki massacre never happened. Let them go and bring forensic experts. The result will shock you. FAKE news has caused a lot of damages to Lagos at the moment

This is funny, why were your masters so quick to clean up and play cover up if truly it never happened.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1322421164925472769
Can you also explain this or it was photoshopped or they were probably acting a movie there.

This is what happened that night since you want to know: the Lagos State government seeing that the so called 'endsars' protest was turning to something else if it's not controlled, declared a curfew in the state mandating all Lagosians to stay indoors. But some idiots still decided to take laws into their hand and come out to continue the protest without considering the fact that they were violating the law.

Only God knows what happened to them but they have themselves to blame anyway as they ought not to have violated the curfew!

Shinfuluan:
The truth shall be known eventually. What really happened on that night.

King44:
The bodies that were moved by the army after the shootings where are they kept?

Or they gave them a mass burial?

Or they are trying to say they didn't move corpses from the scene?

You can't tell me that people who were there who accused the army of moving bodies were mad or delusional because if not for the video evidences and live streaming they had already denied firing shots and even went as far as saying they were not even at the scene.

With their level of lies and cover ups it would not be crazy to say that they brought the bodies there then moved it afterwards for a mass burial somewhere, this is not a fact but what they might have done and capable of.

Don't call this a fake new because it is what they might have done, their lies are just too much.

People that I saw who were gone down in videos that night was up to three and more and the gvt went ahead to say they are not more than too, army deny presence and saying some people disguised and killed protesters.

During investigations facts are established with essumptions first especially in mystery cases.

At this point the panel need to work with private detectives that won't be compromised because the panel does not have the skills to investigate the case and they might soon be fed up and come back to tell us nothing happened at Lekki tollgate at this rate.

do u need a prophet to tell u dat dis is audio investigation. evil government cannot stand against itself. a simple cctv replay wud save all this scripts. Lets wait for 2023, but before then lets expect the worst.

FriendNG:

They transfer it via Xender to another location.

don't mind ipob, they always reason with their anus

Flier:
Isn’t it obvious Dj switch lied ?or why are they looking for something that wasn’t lost o

Yea its obvious to the daft

Justdare:


I am pretty certain you are smart going by a lot of your oppinions, but wrong on this son.
The visit was impromptu for starters and 30 mins is not enough to make a hospital mortuary disappear.
There are a lot of cover ups but this seem as plain as it gets.

I agree with you. Seems like a lot of people on Nairaland don't really understand what a mortuary is... perhaps they think its like a solitary refrigerator or freezer that 2 or 3 soldiers can just carry & throw over the fence into the next compound or stow it away inside the booth of a car within 30 minutes, just to cover up some evidence.

SMH!

CamusMidas:

I don't take nairaland serious anymore, it is just an emotional echo chamber. They all always go on the same narative, when you reason otherwise they tag you as the enemy.

Very true! The word "emotional" is the best adjective to be used to describe average Nairalanders. Nairaland has gone to the dogs!

DrFunmisticGlow:
Actually both are true because I have worked there before. It has been under renovation since October last year, and the hospital has no morgue.

Please educate them...some people are asking why a military hospital will not have a morgue?
Perhaps there is a written down code somewhere that every military hospital should have a morgue.
Please help educate them and us.

blackmantis:
Does it mean they have,
No families,
No friends,
No neighbors,
No workmates,
No school mates,
No employers,
No church or mosque members
who missed them?

If you have people missing since the 20th in Lagos speak up.

We have asked that question since last week...all we have seen is someone posting pictures of some guys on a Twitter handle, doing some paparazzi postures for the cameras, saying this person is missing...but no family of the persons have cried out. Perhaps the victims live under the bridge, and not with family members.
We don't understand...