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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by achorladey: 1:33pm On Nov 01, 2020
Blabbermouth:
Lol. Tell that to Haddey who believes ressurected saints will only BE LIKE angels and to Maximus who believe they will become plain ANGELIC CREATURES just like Gabriel.

Lol. DappaD wants to cherry pick grin
Perhaps I should tell you his name so you can disfellowship him - hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha

Do you think the likes of achorladey and rottennaija woke up one day and decided to unshackle themselves from your GB and follow Christ?
No! There was a process.

Lol, E pain am.
What profit hath it if we go about pointing out faults among sects. Like I said to you before, there be those amongst you that spread legs door to door.
Sorry bro, just like the Nigerian government, you try to paint whatever outer picture you want to see.

A true Catholic has the same line of thought grin grin grin. E pain am.

PS: How many are your baptized JW member?

Never question the pope, he is the only man God is using to feed the true Christians - Catholics.
Words well placed.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by achorladey: 1:35pm On Nov 01, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
Please DappaD, once you've cleverly observed to sense Apostasy, why not avoid them completely?

At least i've noticed two on this forum
Achorladey
Rottennaija
The rest are indecisive and workers of iniquity who don't want to see or hear from any integrity keeper, they just want the system to be without rules guiding anyone so they can practice any form of worship or join any religious group for worship.
That's their way! smiley
In the words of AM3 grin grin grin grin grin grin

When you see APOSTATES and APOSTACY you won't know grin grin
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by achorladey: 1:40pm On Nov 01, 2020
Blabbermouth:
Lol. You lost. Perhaps you should call your brothers backstage and tell them to decide what to jointly believe in.
One line of thought my foot.

Church?! Shut up, you still haven't comprehended a single thing so far.

No. They are making sure other unsuspecting babes don't get shackled like they were.

John is not in any way connected in this discussion.

LMAO! Mirror psychology.

You can't pull any more strings, you decided to use the mirror effect to call it quit.

One rule of the streets is: Know who to pick a fight with.
You Don enter am today. I will panel beat you with the light of Christ.
No. They are making sure other unsuspecting babes don't get shackled like they were.


Don't mind DappaD jare. That one will start a thread like a PROFESSOR brimming to teach you all things SCRIPTURE.

One minute into the discussion you begin to wonder where the PROFESSOR is.

Or go into the usual mode...... APOSTATES the word to put members OFF LIMITS grin grin grin grin
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by achorladey: 1:44pm On Nov 01, 2020
rottennaija:
I don't know why you people can't simply understand that 8m JWs uniting isn't different from 1b Catholic or 10m full life members or redeem members uniting. It's very simple.

Bring a couple of people together, group them and give them a purpose and you will see unity. You will even find them competing against the interests of their family members if they are not part of the group. It's simply called tribalism. Nothing more. JWs are no more united than Mormons or Scientology.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx4GvzjRMx8
Mormons and SDA comes to mind, the SIBLINGS of JWS grin grin grin grin grin

They are usually united and silent in the way they go about their activities grin grin grin
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by rottennaija(m): 1:52pm On Nov 01, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
Please DappaD, once you've cleverly observed to sense Apostasy, why not avoid them completely?

At least i've noticed two on this forum
Achorladey
Rottennaija
The rest are indecisive and workers of iniquity who don't want to see or hear from any integrity keeper, they just want the system to be without rules guiding anyone so they can practice any form of worship or join any religious group for worship.
That's their way! smiley
This is a straw man's argument Maximus69. It's because of the fraud watchtower us that made me to stay back. Obviously, it's easy and convenient for you to think this way.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 1:53pm On Nov 01, 2020
Blabbermouth:
Neither do I call them brothers, hahahahahahaha
Good!
You've the truth!
Now, how do you get others in the darkness to reason with you?
Or maybe they should wait for holyspirit to reveals theirs? wink
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by DappaD(op): 1:54pm On Nov 01, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
Please DappaD, once you've cleverly observed to sense Apostasy, why not avoid them completely?

At least i've noticed two on this forum
Achorladey
Rottennaija
The rest are indecisive and workers of iniquity who don't want to see or hear from any integrity keeper, they just want the system to be without rules guiding anyone so they can practice any form of worship or join any religious group for worship.
That's their way! smiley
Well said brother. Best to ignore these hopeless apostates.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:59pm On Nov 01, 2020
Eyes they have but can't see!

Ears they have but can't hear!

Nose they have but can't smell!

For if the holy spirit will reveal the truth to everyone then what is the essence of preaching and teaching work Jesus commissioned?
It's evident that these new set of Born Again Christians knows how things ought to be better than Jesus who sent his followers out to PREACH and TEACH! smiley


haddeylium:
Good!
You've the truth!
Now, how do you get others in the darkness to reason with you?
Or maybe they should wait for holyspirit to reveals theirs? wink
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:01pm On Nov 01, 2020
You're 100% OK Sir!

You don't have any problem! smiley


rottennaija:
This is a straw man's argument Maximus69. It's because of the fraud watchtower us that made me to stay back. Obviously, it's easy and convenient for you to think this way.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by achorladey:
Blabbermouth:
JW 1: Ressurected men become angelic creatures like Gabriel

JW 2: No, it's not that way. They won't become Angelic creatures, they will just be LIKE angels
grin grin grin
Don't be silly. Those ones that say "I'm a Catholic o, but I don't believe all their doctrines and teachings" - is a fake catholic. Just as Judas was with them, but he was not WITH them (Unravel that). Hahahahahahaha

We have witnesses who have one or two difference in the totality of JW's belief. Hahahahahahaha
Them no dey carry am for face.

It's the infallible light from the pope, don't question it.
He is the only man God is using to feed the true Christians - Catholics
Hahahahahahaha
I warned you, you cannot last.

Pope: After the footsteps of God in the old testament.
Hahahahahahaha

Pope: Remember, Jesus said - There are still many things to teach, but they cannot bare them now.

Well, he has revealed it to the pope that homosexuality is not bad. Na love matter.

They are! Anyone claiming not to follow the pope is not part of them!

Their ACTIONS is louder than yours.

Anyone can say any rubbish that comes into their head.

I know.
Reality says many within the community of JWs have reservations based on their TEACHINGS. Voicing it out is to be SHOWN the DOOR should they fail to WAIT ON JEHOVAH.

WAITING on JEHOVAH equals WAITING ON GB of which Jehovah sees as PERFECT and without SIN despite being in the FLESH and on EARTH grin grin grin grin



I agree, it is a bummer being raised in the religion, getting baptized as a minor, and then changing your mind later. I have my own views about shunning family, I feel it is up to each individual to decide and should not be dictated by anyone. The Bible is not clear about shunning with a one size fits all model...........the words of a PIMI (Physically IN Mentally IN) JW grin grin grin grin
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by achorladey: 2:08pm On Nov 01, 2020
DappaD:
Well said brother. Best to ignore these hopeless apostates.
Tell us whenever you start SELLING HOPE in the KH or ORGANIZATION of JWs grin grin grin grin grin
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by achorladey: 2:12pm On Nov 01, 2020
rottennaija:
This is a straw man's argument Maximus69. It's because of the fraud watchtower us that made me to stay back. Obviously, it's easy and convenient for you to think this way.
The same person that said people choose to be NONE DENOMINATIONAL because they don't want to be held RESPONSIBLE for their WRONGS.

I told him even the DENOMINATIONALS love to run away from being held responsible when they go wrong.

As if being DENOMINATIONAL means they can't practice LAWLESSNESS grin grin grin grin
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by rottennaija(m): 2:27pm On Nov 01, 2020
DappaD:
Well said brother. Best to ignore these hopeless apostates.
Someday, the refuge of the lie will crumble.

Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by achorladey:
The below image is for blabbermouth. The fact that POLICIES of this nature captured below is a testament to the FACT that not EVERY JWs have the same LINE OF THOUGHT

Key words:

1. When brothers question why adjustments have been made

If indeed they HAVE ONE LINE OF THOUGHT, how can a BROTHER QUESTION adjustment made? grin grin grin

2. If a baptized person associated with
the Christian congregation
deliberately
spreads

If they have ONE LINE OF THOUGHT how can a baptized person DELIBERATELY spread CONTRARY VIEWS grin grin grin

3. STUBBORNLY HOLDS and SPEAKS ABOUT

4. teachings contrary to Bible truth as taught by Jehovah’s Witnesses,


5. If he shows no desire to receive assistance toward recovery from such serious apostate deviations, a judicial committee would be assigned to handle the case. If unrepentant, he would be disfellowshipped.


Policies like these shows many in the community of JWs don't have that same LINE OF THOUGHT and when they speak out, THEIR heads goes into the CHOPPING block should they hold on stubbornly to their VIEWS and fail to WAIT for GB to correct the issue pointed at. That same issue pointed at, the GB will eventually changed into after that individual had LONG being DISFELLOWSHIPPED. grin grin grin grin

Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:59pm On Nov 01, 2020
Until then Sir, wait until then! wink

rottennaija:
Someday, the refuge of the lie will crumble.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 9:21pm On Nov 01, 2020
achorladey:
Reality says many within the community of JWs have reservations based on their TEACHINGS. Voicing it out is to be SHOWN the DOOR should they fail to WAIT ON JEHOVAH.

WAITING on JEHOVAH equals WAITING ON GB of which Jehovah sees as PERFECT and without SIN despite being in the FLESH and on EARTH grin grin grin grin
So true. I see someone like Maximus going about exhorting whatever comes out of His GB's mouth as though they are the infallible words of Christ.
I agree, it is a bummer being raised in the religion, getting baptized as a minor, and then changing your mind later. I have my own views about shunning family, I feel it is up to each individual to decide and should not be dictated by anyone. The Bible is not clear about shunning with a one size fits all model...........the words of a PIMI (Physically IN Mentally IN) JW grin grin grin grin
Lmao! DappaD thought I was fantasizing when I told him that there are many amongst them that have some contradictions with whatever the GB is feeding them.

Unfortunately, not many wants to have their head chopped on the disfellowship board (due to one reason or another).
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 9:31pm On Nov 01, 2020
DappaD:
Jehovah's Witnesses have the same line of thought.(1Corinthians 1:10, Philippians 2:2)
Periodt! grin grin
Too bad for you.
1. Achorladey's commentary on your article shattered your fantasy without mercy.
2. The fact that there are Ex-JW out there disproves your UNISM charade.
grin grin grin
So that means anybody can just claim to be Christian when there's no proof that you're following Christ? What part of Matthew 7:16-18 and Luke 7:35 don't you understand?
You can't deviate bro, neither can you run.
Right here, right now, give me a single difference between you and I that shows you are a CHRISTIAN while I am not.
(Don't be silly, your group is not recognized - so don't come up with useless crap)
If you think you can stop the 8.7million Jehovah's Witnesses around the world from being united, then go ahead. Else every other thing you're “blabbing” about right now is garbage. grin grin grin
What do you think?
That I'm having a conversation with you because I enjoy making jest of your religious enslavement? Definitely not.

The goal is reconciling everyone (under the shackles of Group) back to Christ! - 8.7 million JW is not a too herd flock for Christ to deliver.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 9:35pm On Nov 01, 2020
rottennaija:
I don't know why you people can't simply understand that 8m JWs uniting isn't different from 1b Catholic or 10m full life members or redeem members uniting. It's very simple.

Bring a couple of people together, group them and give them a purpose and you will see unity. You will even find them competing against the interests of their family members if they are not part of the group. It's simply called tribalism. Nothing more. JWs are no more united than Mormons or Scientology.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx4GvzjRMx8
Lol. I find myself laughing till I choke whenever I see a JW repeat the same mantra that has been passed from GB to shackle members.

DappaD thinks it's the work of Christ. Lol.
Maybe it's the same Christ uniting Catholic, Seventh Day Adventist et all.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 9:45pm On Nov 01, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
Haddeylium ~ those going to heaven will be like angels.
Max~ those going to heaven will become angels.

So that sounds like a contradiction to Blabbermouth! undecided
Lol. Let me fire a shot then.

Believer 1: Jesus will BE LIKE his Father, Jehovah.

Believer 2: Jesus WILL BECOME his Father, Jehovah.

Simultaneously, is the above statements
A. Contradictory/Not meaning the same or B. True

Choose A, then you will have to swallow the fact that you and Haddey had different line of thought.

Choose B, and bow to the Trinity doctrine!

Lol Maximus, wisdom can be a bitch if she is against you.
Yet Haddey and Max will always respond the same way when

@Racism enters your brain to kill your fellowman you're referring to as born again Christian.

@Politics and it's ambitions leads you to hate and destroy you fellow born again brother.

@It's time to protest and hurt your fellowman who happens to be a policeman (Christian)

In all of these going to heaven become angels or like angels can never come between haddey and Max.
So stop deceiving yourself! smiley
Awake chapter 2 verse 35.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by DappaD(op): 9:56pm On Nov 01, 2020
Blabbermouth:
Too bad for you.
1. Achorladey's commentary on your article shattered your fantasy without mercy.
2. The fact that there are Ex-JW out there disproves your UNISM charade.
grin grin grin
And what's my concern with useless and hopeless apostates? You think I give any thought to what they have to say?

You can't deviate bro, neither can you run.
Right here, right now, give me a single difference between you and I that shows you are a CHRISTIAN while I am not.
Are you preaching and teaching the good news of God's Kingdom like Jesus said his disciples should? (Matthew 24:14, 28:19,20, Mark 13:10)
C'mon that's one glaring fact here I don't need to spell it out for you.


[s]
(Don't be silly, your group is not recognized - so don't come up with useless crap)
What do you think?
That I'm having a conversation with you because I enjoy making jest of your religious enslavement? Definitely not.
The goal is reconciling everyone (under the shackles of Group) back to Christ! - 8.7 million JW is not a too herd flock for Christ to deliver.[/s]
Cock and Bull.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 10:03pm On Nov 01, 2020
haddeylium:
Good!
You've the truth!
Now, how do you get others in the darkness to reason with you?
Or maybe they should wait for holyspirit to reveals theirs? wink
Lol. So it can look as if you said something with essence.

I once asked one of your brother some weeks ago to show me one thing he has that others who claim to name the name of Christ do not.

The possession of that thing should be why he is in the light while the others are in the dark.

Sadly, your brother could not find any till now.

Perhaps, you should go ahead - tell me the difference between you and I. How you are in the light and I am in the dark. What tangible proof do you have, that I do not.

Lol. Getting saved is not by sitting under the tutelage of some GB.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by achorladey: 10:05pm On Nov 01, 2020
And what's my concern with useless and hopeless apostates? You think I give any thought to what they have to say

grin grin grin grin

Upper lips of GB.......

In this time of the end, Christ has committed “all his belongings” - all the earthly interests of the Kingdom - to his “faithful and discreet slave” and its representative Governing Body … The anointed and their other sheep companions recognize that by following the lead of the modern-day Governing Body, they are in fact following their Leader, Christ.” (Watchtower, September 15, 2010, page 23).

Lower lips of GB

“You may wisely decide against putting your trust in imperfect men and their fallible predictions and promises.” (Watchtower, March 15, 1966, page 168).


I don't have to remind you those who used their upper and lower lips to say THEY ARE NOT INSPIRED, went ahead to SAY they are NOT INFALLIBLE and cannot produce PERFECT SPIRITUAL FOOD.


Or the millions now living will never die SAGA


In the land of JWS you can never be TOO SURE. It is what the party tells YOU grin grin grin grin should you go against the PARTY by trying not to reject the EVIDENCE of your eyes and ears grin grin grin grin the head goes to slaughter SLAB
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 10:07pm On Nov 01, 2020
DappaD:
And what's my concern with useless and hopeless apostates? You think I give any thought to what they have to say?
I know. You've been commanded by Lord GB not to give any thought.

The fact still stands - Your One Line of Thought is a fallacy.
Are you preaching and teaching the good news of God's Kingdom like Jesus said his disciples should? (Matthew 24:14, 28:19,20, Mark 13:10)
C'mon that's one glaring fact here I don't need to spell it out for you.
LMAO! I preach and teach the good news of God's kingdom.

Another cherry popped - You don't have anything that proves you are in light while I am in the dark.
Cock and Bull.
I give up.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 10:08pm On Nov 01, 2020
Blabbermouth:
Lol. Let me fire a shot then
Jws are not responsible for your poor understanding cheesy
Not knowing that 'Angel' is a title or hononary post is your problem yet

"The resurrected ones" will be like his Messengers
'The resurrected ones" will be his " Messengers"
cheesy


Whatever.
You wouldn't want to be selfish with this truth you found right?
So, how do you make others in darkness reason with you?
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 10:14pm On Nov 01, 2020
Blabbermouth:
Lol. So it can look as if you said something with essence.
These are stories

Why do the first century christians need a congregation?

How do you make others reason with you?
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by DappaD(op): 10:15pm On Nov 01, 2020
Blabbermouth:
I know. You've been commanded by Lord GB not to give any thought.
The fact still stands - Your One Line of Thought is a fallacy.
LMAO! I preach and teach the good news of God's kingdom.
Another cherry popped - You don't have anything that proves you are in light while I am in the dark.
This is where I call it quits on this discussion. Carry this childish sarcastic behaviour and go and meet the people who have time for all of that.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 10:18pm On Nov 01, 2020
haddeylium:
Jws are not responsible for your poor understanding cheesy
Not knowing that 'Angel' is a title or hononary post is your problem yet

"The resurrected ones" will be like his Messengers
'The resurrected ones" will be his " Messengers"
cheesy
Whatever.
You wouldn't want to be selfish with this truth you found right?
So, how do you make others in darkness reason with you?
That night, it wasn't a mere man's wisdom.

I was 7 steps ahead!
I ironed it out already that I meant Angelic creatures whenever I say "Angel", not " messengers ", lol.

In fact, I hammered it before maximus, Jano and Haddey with the phrase "Pure Angelic Creatures just like Gabriel".

Bro, nothing can save your bro Maximus from either bowing to Trinity, taking his errors back, or accepting his line of thought was different from Haddey's own.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by achorladey: 10:19pm On Nov 01, 2020
haddeylium:
Jws are not responsible for your poor understanding cheesy
Not knowing that 'Angel' is a title or hononary post is your problem yet

"The resurrected ones" will be like his Messengers
'The resurrected ones" will be his " Messengers"
cheesy


Whatever.
You wouldn't want to be selfish with this truth you found right?
So, how do you make others in darkness reason with you?
Really grin grin grin grin mouth don change grin grin grin grin cheesy


Your palaver to sort
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 10:20pm On Nov 01, 2020
DappaD:
This is where I call it quits on this discussion. Carry this childish sarcastic behaviour and go and meet the people who have time for all of that.
Childish sarcastic behavior?
If that hurt you, I'm sorry.

However, you wouldn't have said that if you have a single possession that makes you in light and also show I'm in the dark.

There was nothing sarcastic there.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Ken4Christ: 10:21pm On Nov 01, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
Is there any due process and time it must be? if so please tell me how and when people must give there life to Christ according to the scriptures, then i'll know if mine is true or false!

But you can share yours i'm all ears, just know that you can't debunk any setting if you did not present the due process based on the scriptures! undecided
You can be born again when you come of age. When you know right from wrong. To some, they can come of age as early as 3 years while others might be much later.

The due process is stated in Romans 10:9-10 and it reads;

9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

So the two steps are;

1. Believe in your heart that God raised Jesus from the dead. Don't try to figure it out in your head. Trying to say Jesus didn't rise bodily already disqualify you from the next step.

2. Confess that Jesus is Lord over your life.

The confession is what seals your salvation.

And almost instantly, you will know that something has happened in you.

It is a divine heart surgery where God immediately gives you a new heart or a brand new spirit.

If you use to do evil things, you will no longer be comfortable.

The moment you do anything wrong, your spirit will condemn you. You will no longer be comfortable with sin.

Hence the Scripture says;

2nd Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

It is a wonderful experience. Just try it.

I got born again 1986. And it's been a wonderful walk with Jesus.

And it is a one time experience. You don't get born again and again.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by achorladey: 10:22pm On Nov 01, 2020
Blabbermouth:
That night, it wasn't a mere man's wisdom.

I was 7 steps ahead!
I ironed it out already that I meant Angelic creatures whenever I say "Angel", not " messengers ", lol.

In fact, I hammered it before maximus, Jano and Haddey with the phrase "Pure Angelic Creatures just like Gabriel".

Bro, nothing can save your bro Maximus from either bowing to Trinity, taking his errors back, or accepting his line of thought was different from Haddey's own.
I believe Oga Haddey understood what he was trying to achieve with the post you just responded to grin grin grin grin grin.

A perfect way to DEFLECT from what was already established weeks back.


ONE LINE OF THOUGHT na SAKAMAJE
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 10:23pm On Nov 01, 2020
achorladey:
Really grin grin grin grin mouth don change grin grin grin grin cheesy


Your palaver to sort
Lol. He seems to have forgotten (or pretending, so as to help his brother who has entered a deep mess), but Nairaland never forgets.

Hahahahahahaha grin grin grin
One line of thought my foot.
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