That will be enough for debate..
Now let's connect the Ourtv decoder and see if it can

1 see the signal
2 pick or scan out the channels that the strong decoder just scanned out in the previous image

Please note we are using this frequency

12645 V 30000 as a case study

To prove if Ourtv decoder can multistream

Wow

Now I just connected the wire to ourtv decoder. First I am going to show you an image of joy tv frequency on the decoder

So it will be very clear to whoever it may concern that I am in the right position

12522 V 30000 @ 28.2 degree east on ourtv decoder

Now let's check the multistream frequency

12645 v 30000

A moment of truth

Ourtv decoder on this multistream frequency

12645 v 30000

As you can see in the image there is no signal on the above multistream frequency

Wider view

So now it is clear in this our experiment, that for now Ourtv decoder cannot multistream.

I chose to use strong 4954 in this practical, because it is one of the decoders that became multistream capable through software upgrade.

So I use God beg you that is saying that Ourtv multistream . To respect this length I went in doing a practical for you to see with your eyes. To go back to your drawing board and correct that statement.

I nor dey quick vex oh. Because I go vex if you still continue to dey do blind argument, after I don sacrifice time I will use in doing something productive to explain am well for you.

I rest my case.

DigitXman:
So now it is clear in this our experiment, that for now Ourtv decoder cannot multistream.

I chose to use strong 4954 in this practical, because it is one of the decoders that became multistream capable through software upgrade.

So I use God beg you that is saying that Ourtv multistream . To respect this length I went in doing a practical for you to see with your eyes. To go back to your drawing board and correct that statement.

I nor dey quick vex oh. Because I go vex if you still continue to dey do blind argument, after I don sacrifice time I will use in doing something productive to explain am well for you.

I rest my case.

Thank you very much... u are beyond good for human/alien comprehension.

if you no mind, abeg copy this NLand page link and paste on their tweeter handle for a software upgrade...

This is a massive eye opener.

DigitXman:
Ourtv decoder on this multistream frequency

12645 v 30000

As you can see in the image there is no signal on the above multistream frequency

I have learned something new today.

Never knew multi-stream has a separate or different frequency apart from the general one. Can you please expatiate on that and how it's gotten, and where?

DigitXman:
So now it is clear in this our experiment, that for now Ourtv decoder cannot multistream.

I chose to use strong 4954 in this practical, because it is one of the decoders that became multistream capable through software upgrade.

So I use God beg you that is saying that Ourtv multistream . To respect this length I went in doing a practical for you to see with your eyes. To go back to your drawing board and correct that statement.

I nor dey quick vex oh. Because I go vex if you still continue to dey do blind argument, after I don sacrifice time I will use in doing something productive to explain am well for you.

I rest my case.

good one bro

WaytoGo:


I have learned something new today.

Never knew multi-stream has a separate or different frequency apart from the general one. Can you please expatiate on that and how it's gotten, and where?

Two ways... Once your decoder is multistream enabled.

You either input the frequency manually
Once you have tracked 28.2 degree east joy tv position

Or you do a blind scan and the frequency will pop up and scan out the channels listed

Your point have been duly noted. What Ourtv decoder users need to know is that the decoder can connect up to four different satellite dishes using a DiSEqC. With this feature, your satisfaction with our product is fully assured as we work to serve you better always.

DigitXman:
So now it is clear in this our experiment, that for now Ourtv decoder cannot multistream.

I chose to use strong 4954 in this practical, because it is one of the decoders that became multistream capable through software upgrade.

So I use God beg you that is saying that Ourtv multistream . To respect this length I went in doing a practical for you to see with your eyes. To go back to your drawing board and correct that statement.

I nor dey quick vex oh. Because I go vex if you still continue to dey do blind argument, after I don sacrifice time I will use in doing something productive to explain am well for you.

I rest my case.

WaytoGo:


I have learned something new today.

Never knew multi-stream has a separate or different frequency apart from the general one. Can you please expatiate on that and how it's gotten, and where?

point of correction, channels not frequencies!
the above frequency has channels that can multi stream and also channels that cant.

DigitXman:


Two ways... Once your decoder is multistream enabled.

You either input the frequency manually
Once you have tracked 28.2 degree east joy tv position

Or you do a blind scan and the frequency will pop up and scan out the channels listed

Plenty thanks.
I can remember that you also complained about the disappearance blind scan on the Ourtv decoder. It's clear now that they have software issues too.

Now, back to our discussion if I choose the second option do one leave the frequency box empty before I do the blindscan or just add the none multi-stream frequency and the multi-stream decoder will do justice to the rest as explained above?


Thank you for your time, you are much appreciated.

ManirBK:
point of correction, channels not frequencies. the above frequency has channels that can multi-stream and also channels that cant.

Well, I believe the discussion here is about the capacity of what multi-stream decoder can open on such frequency whether all or not, right?

WaytoGo:


Plenty thanks.
I can remember that you also complained about the disappearance blind scan on the Ourtv decoder. It's clear now that they have software issues too.

Now, back to our discussion if I choose the second option do one leave the frequency box empty before I do the blindscan or just add the none multi-stream frequency and the multi-stream decoder will do justice to the rest as explained above?


Thank you for your time, you are much appreciated.

Using the blind scan method does not in anyway require you imputing the frequency manually again. The blind scan is a feature that helps to bring out any absent frequency that exist under a particular satellite that is not embedded in the preconfigured frequency list.

DigitXman:


Using the blind scan method does not in anyway require you imputing the frequency manually again. The blind scan is a feature that helps to bring out any absent frequency that exist under a particular satellite that is not embedded in the preconfigured frequency list.

You are one of a kind. Plenty thanks!!!....

WaytoGo:


Well, I believe the discussion here is about the capacity of what multi-stream decoder can open on such frequency whether all or not, right?

yes right. just do the blindscan and get them all that's the better way

ManirBK:
yes right. just do the blindscan and get them all that's the better way

True!
And the beauty of this , I believe, is, even if your frequency on multi-stream has limited channels you can always switch your frequency to none multi-stream frequency, right?

WaytoGo:


True!
And the beauty of this , I believe, is, even if your frequency on multi-stream has limited channels you can always switch your frequency to none multi-stream frequency, right?

What do you really mean by switch your frequency?

DigitXman:


Two ways... Once your decoder is multistream enabled.

You either input the frequency manually
Once you have tracked 28.2 degree east joy tv position

Or you do a blind scan and the frequency will pop up and scan out the channels listed

So, if I understand your illustrations correctly in a layman's view; Multi stream enable decoder is like a DVD player machine that can play BOTH DVDs and VCDs.

While a None Multi stream decoder is like a VCD player machine that can play ONLY VCDs?

ajaymina:



So, if I understand your illustrations correctly in a layman's view; Multi stream enable decoder is like a DVD player machine that can play both DVDs and VCDs.

While a None Multi stream decoder is like a VCD player machine that can play ONLY VCDs?

That layman definition applies to a comparison between H.264 versus H.265 decoder.

However it is relatively close but different in the sense that a none multistream enabled decoder still plays every other channels that a multistream decoder can play. Except for not being able to modulate the frequency that is transmitting the multistream channels

DigitXman:


What do you really mean by switch your frequency?

Multi frequency - 12645 v 30000
None multi frequency at 28.2 - 12522v30000

Can the none multi-frequency work or display channels on multi-frequency?

Above was the question I indirectly asked him but since you asked for clarification on that. ..

WaytoGo:


Multi frequency - 12645 v 30000
None multi frequency at 28.2 - 12522v30000

Can the none multi-frequency work or display channels on multi-frequency?

Above was the question I indirectly asked him but since you asked for clarification on that. ..

In translation if I get you correctly. Is if the channels that pop up on 12645 V 30000 , can still pop up on 12522 v 30000 ? Right?

DigitXman:


In translation if I get you correctly. Is if the channels that pop up on 12645 V 30000 , can still pop up on 12522 v 30000 ? Right?

Don't get me wrong. I meant if multi-stream decoder can absorb and or display channels on none multi-stream frequency.

WaytoGo:


Don't get me wrong. I meant if multi-stream decoder can absorb and or display channels on none multi-stream frequency.

Definitely yes.. It's still just your regular free to air decoder, meant to receive all satellite frequency transmitting on both ku/c band

WaytoGo:


True!
And the beauty of this , I believe, is, even if your frequency on multi-stream has limited channels you can always switch your frequency to none multi-stream frequency, right?

as I told you one frequency can give you two options channels with are multi stream and channel with are not. not all frequencies obtain multi stream channels

WaytoGo:


Don't get me wrong. I meant if multi-stream decoder can absorb and or display channels on none multi-stream frequency.

Yes, it can bro.

DigitXman:


Definitely yes.. It's still just your regular free to air decoder, meant to receive all satellite frequency transmitting on both ku/c band

Well done!

One last question, please!
Do multi-stream recorder/frequency has its separate list of limited channels on its frequency or take in both channels lists available on its frequency and none altogether?

ManirBK:
as I told you one frequency can give you two options channels with are multi stream and channel with are not. not all frequencies obtain multi-stream channels

If I had seen this earlier I wouldn't ask the above question I directed to @Digitman".

I appreciate.

Thanks for the clarification.

A heart that shows appreciation receives more ;

Penning this down to appreciate you all that had in one way or the other helped and or answers all my questions today, I mean, everybody. God bless you all.


You are all very much appreciated, it means a lot to me beyond FTA, personally. I believe both none and all contributors to this thread must have greatly learned one or more from these tete-tete and practical questions and answers on this thread today.

Thank you all.

Cheers.