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fairheart:
I am sorry about your wife's and baby refusal.
I think it is important to note that VOs looks at cases differently. Those who were approved with F1-F2 were probably not interviewed by the VO that intervieweed your wife today. Now, during interview, VO usually ask about husband or wife coming to join later--in case you are married with kids. It is possible the VO that approved your visa asked you this question. Perhaps? What you said was No, not at this time. Probably? You have been in the US for a year, and now, your wife and only kid was about to join you. The VO probably thought this is a plan to migrate since you are already in the US and your wife and kids will not be returning to Nigeria with you once you graduate--if at all you will return yourself. I know this may not be the case.

Another thing is, I don't think she has funding, although she really gave very strong points during our mock. Now, here is another question: if you and your wife and baby are out, what is the chances of coming back after graduation? Very slim to impossible--in the mind of the VO. This is how they think.

She can change class of visa to F2, but I really hope that works. Now, I really hope, because that will confirm exactly what the VO might be thinking, that they are runing to come and be with you and you guys do not really want to return (assuming this is what he thought). Have you visited Nigeria since you travelled?

This type of case is hard to predict or say something definite on. Last fall, a lady I'd call T (not her real name) was refused twice with her baby, even though she has funding, and have been to the US like twice or so (can't remember details vividly anymore). After deliberation, I suggested she might need to leave the baby with hubby in Nigeria and apply alone--just to show her intention is purely for studies. She said she thought about the same and boom, she reapplied, and she was given the visa in December. She's in Indiana now, studying.

Another example is Bley (name changed). She got funding from XX university, and even though she is a mother, she applied alone. I think after a year and half, she returned to pick the infant (early this year), and according to her, the VO who interviewed her and the baby sympathised as why she left a baby so young behind for studies in the US. Now, something happened: Before Bley came in January, her hubby got admission to the same school, full funding. My dear, he was refused like 5 times. I remember grilling him over the phone. My grilling failed! Na so he chill and let go. Till now, the husband no get the visa. But wife and baby don dey US.

Case differ. No two VOs are the same, and even if they are same, they are unlikely to make same decision on different applications. Which is why you should not look at why it worked for others and not for you at this time.

One thing I am very sure about the US embassy is that, if they smell intention to run, they will refuse. It doesnt matter how you feel! Their job is to refuse anyone they feel isn't a credible student (even if the applicant is credible). How do you make them see that you're credible? So how do you show you are a credible student with intent to return to Nigeria after studies? Well, there's no single way to it, and in your wife's case, it is tricky.

My advice for her is to try again. But if getting funding is possible, tell her to try. It takes competitiveness to get funding, and I want to believe that every VO sees your funding as an opportunity you cherished and that you'd not abandon that just for your relationship. If your wife wants to show that credibility and remove the intent to migrate that appears to be visible (because you're there, and now, she is coming with your only child), she should have a competitive admission. OR, drop your baby out of the application. OR, she can try again and see how it goes.

Please note: I AM NOT A VO. THIS IS PURELY AN OPINION FROM MY ASSESSMENT OF YOUR SITUATION.
I hope this can help you make the right decision.

Hello @ Fairheart Please I sent you an email, I will like to have a mock with you. Thank you in anticipation for a Response

I was about submitting my application with Tulane University for Fall 2021. Its showing that I should pay the $50 application fee but they sent me an email that my application has been successfully submitted. I don't understand because it's still showing awaiting payment on my application portal.

Ftos:
University of utah - no application fee, deadline -dec 1

2. Wayne State University - no application fee, deadline-early dec

3. University of Rochester - no application fee, Deadline-dec 15

4. Temple University - Can offer waiver

5. Scripps research institute - no application fee, deadline-dec 1

6. Michigan state University - no app. fee, deadline - dec 15

7. Iowa State University - no application fee, deadline jan 15

8. Georgia tech - no application fee

9. Georgetown university - can offer waiver

10. University of Emory - can offer waiver

11. Case western reserve university - no application fee, deadline- april 15

12. Caltech (can offer waiver)

13. Brigham young university - no application fee, deadline Jan 5

14. Carnegie mellon University - waived application fee for fall 2021 application

15. Auburn University - no application fee, deadline- dec 5

16. Tulane University - no application fee, deadline- april 4

17. Pennsylvania state University - can offer waiver, deadline- dec 15

18. University of Illinois chicago - waive application fee till dec 15

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femi2016:
Congratulations bro!

I am so happy for you. I also studied Agricultural Engineering and also contacted Professor Choudary at ABEng department of the same school but did not get any response for him

Can you please share how you obtained the admission and the funding? I will also appreciate if we can discuss.
kindly let me know your prefered mode of contact

thank you.

VISA APPROVED!

Transcript in a bit

F2 Visa Denied Today Lagos.

I was interviewed in window 6 by the V.O with the camouflage bandanna.

Here goes my transcript.

V.O. - Good morning

Me - Good morning

V.O - Pass your i-20 and other documents

Me - Here they are

V.O - Where are you going?

Me - I'm going to Alabama to be with my husband who is a grad student at the University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa.

V.O - How long have you been married?

Me - Since September 2020

V.O - What do you do currently?

Me - I recently completed my youth service and it coincided with the start of the pandemic, so it's been difficult securing a means of employment

V.O - How long is your husband's program?

Me - Its a 5 year program, 1 year down 4 to go

V.O - How long do you intend to be in the US?

Me - I intend staying with my husband through his course of study

V.O - (keeps typing) I am sorry you don't qualify for a visa right now

(I reached out to hisemminence and fair heart, thanks for your help).

Please guys peruse this and give your suggestions as I intend to re-apply ASAP.

Appointment was 7am

Me: Goodmorning
VO: why USA
Me: Answered
VO: Why NCAT
Me: Answered
VO: what research
Me: Answered But seems she wasn’t impressed, (VO cuts in)
VO: Are you married
Me: Answered
VO: I’m sorry you are not qualified bla bla bla, and she gave me a white paper

As I was going out of the building past the security men, the CGI guy came to call me back
CGI: (running fast) Mr Pjomo Mr Pjomo, the VO is calling you
Me: calling me?. She just denied me. I replied
CGI: yeah she told me to call you back
Me: Look, I’m not here to beg for visa, if US doesn’t grant me, another country will
CGI: we are sorry sir, just obey her call
Me: Okay. (I obliged)

Back to the main building
Same VO: I was only joking with you , I just wanna see your reaction
Me: I thought as much as my answers were amazing and I spoke audibly
VO: (utter the sweet words) I will be approving your visa. Pick it up on bla bla and proceed to pay the reciprocity fee.

It can only be God. Thanks to fairheart, julsbaby, slimmy2005, lagosismyhome, imperiouxxx., walspring, justwise, holuwadarey ftos. You guys are the best! I owe you alot

I cant believe this. If this is true then big congratulations to you.

Pjomo:
Appointment was 7am

Me: Goodmorning
VO: why USA
Me: Answered
VO: Why NCAT
Me: Answered
VO: what research
Me: Answered But seems she wasn’t impressed, (VO cuts in)
VO: Are you married
Me: Answered
VO: I’m sorry you are not qualified bla bla bla, and she gave me a white paper

As I was going out of the building past the security men, the CGI guy came to call me back
CGI: (running fast) Mr Pjomo Mr Pjomo, the VO is calling you
Me: calling me?. She just denied me. I replied
CGI: yeah she told me to call you back
Me: Look, I’m not here to beg for visa, if US doesn’t grant me, another country will
CGI: we are sorry sir, just obey her call
Me: Okay. (I obliged)

Back to the main building
Same VO: I was only joking with you , I just wanna see your reaction
Me: I thought as much as my answers were amazing and I spoke audibly
VO: (utter the sweet words) I will be approving your visa. Pick it up on bla bla and proceed to pay the reciprocity fee.

It can only be God. Thanks to fairheart, julsbaby, slimmy2005, lagosismyhome, imperiouxxx., walspring, justwise, holuwadarey ftos. You guys are the best! I owe you alot

My wife encountered a similar issue today at the Lagos embassy. She said she was only asked the question about having a kid or not and she replied No then the next question was about who's your sponsor and she replied mother-in-law and the next thing was sorry...with the blue paper. I strongly suspect the reason has to do with home ties. No documents was checked.

@fairheart and other gurus in the house, please help look at this situation and suggest possible way forward.
I am on F1 with funding and only about 5k deficit cos of the dependent. I left 9ja in 2019, my visa will expire in Jan 2021 and with the F2 denial my wife got today, what can we do?

I was thinking, do we stand a chance if I travel to 9ja by Dec and schedule for my visa renewal and possibly schedule to go together with my wife this time but my fear is, what if I get denied(I wont be able to return to US to continue my studies) since both of us are planning to leave together. Even if I visit Mexico or Canada for the renewal, same issue may still arise. Challenge now is, what is way forward for my wife. reapply asap or chill. Suggestions are appreciated

Shehuroj:
Hello guys, please I need your advice.

My wife and daughter were denied F-1 & F-2 today at Lagos embassy due to weak ties to Nigeria since I (husband) is already in the US on F-1 visa. She has a very strong sponsor with more than required money on financial statement of account, but they didn't check it. She was asked about her workplace, which Aminu Kano Teaching Hospital and how long she has been working there (2 years). She said the VO told her I will deny your visa due to ties to back Nigeria and issued them yellow form.
However, since they also approve F-2 for families of recent, is it wise for them to shift to F-2? What is their chance of approval? Or they should reapply for F-1 & F-2 again?

Your timely response will be highly appreciated.

Thanks.

Pjomo:
Appointment was 7am

Me: Goodmorning
VO: why USA
Me: Answered
VO: Why NCAT
Me: Answered
VO: what research
Me: Answered But seems she wasn’t impressed, (VO cuts in)
VO: Are you married
Me: Answered
VO: I’m sorry you are not qualified bla bla bla, and she gave me a white paper

As I was going out of the building past the security men, the CGI guy came to call me back
CGI: (running fast) Mr Pjomo Mr Pjomo, the VO is calling you
Me: calling me?. She just denied me. I replied
CGI: yeah she told me to call you back
Me: Look, I’m not here to beg for visa, if US doesn’t grant me, another country will
CGI: we are sorry sir, just obey her call
Me: Okay. (I obliged)

Back to the main building
Same VO: I was only joking with you , I just wanna see your reaction
Me: I thought as much as my answers were amazing and I spoke audibly
VO: (utter the sweet words) I will be approving your visa. Pick it up on bla bla and proceed to pay the reciprocity fee.

It can only be God. Thanks to fairheart, julsbaby, slimmy2005, lagosismyhome, imperiouxxx., walspring, justwise, holuwadarey ftos. You guys are the best! I owe you alot

Wow..this is a testimony. Congratulations

solastar2:
I cant believe this. If this is true then big congratulations to you.

You don’t need to believe it, we carry different grace. Mine is special. Enjoy your buhari and let me enjoy my biden in peace

Sharon8:
Wow..this is a testimony. Congratulations

Thank you. Yours is coming soon!

Had my Nov 18th appointment moved to Nov 19th today. Pls how do I print the updated appointment letter?

Pjomo:
Appointment was 7am

Me: Goodmorning
VO: why USA
Me: Answered
VO: Why NCAT
Me: Answered
VO: what research
Me: Answered But seems she wasn’t impressed, (VO cuts in)
VO: Are you married
Me: Answered
VO: I’m sorry you are not qualified bla bla bla, and she gave me a white paper

As I was going out of the building past the security men, the CGI guy came to call me back
CGI: (running fast) Mr Pjomo Mr Pjomo, the VO is calling you
Me: calling me?. She just denied me. I replied
CGI: yeah she told me to call you back
Me: Look, I’m not here to beg for visa, if US doesn’t grant me, another country will
CGI: we are sorry sir, just obey her call
Me: Okay. (I obliged)

Back to the main building
Same VO: I was only joking with you , I just wanna see your reaction
Me: I thought as much as my answers were amazing and I spoke audibly
VO: (utter the sweet words) I will be approving your visa. Pick it up on bla bla and proceed to pay the reciprocity fee.

It can only be God. Thanks to fairheart, julsbaby, slimmy2005, lagosismyhome, imperiouxxx., walspring, justwise, holuwadarey ftos. You guys are the best! I owe you alot

Anytime you wake up, always shout at the top of your voice, "The devil is a bastard"

Congrats. But, kindly give us the full gist or the answer you provided. This "answer" you wrote here is not enough.

CONGRATS once more

Pjomo:
Appointment was 7am

Me: Goodmorning
VO: why USA
Me: Answered
VO: Why NCAT
Me: Answered
VO: what research
Me: Answered But seems she wasn’t impressed, (VO cuts in)
VO: Are you married
Me: Answered
VO: I’m sorry you are not qualified bla bla bla, and she gave me a white paper

As I was going out of the building past the security men, the CGI guy came to call me back
CGI: (running fast) Mr Pjomo Mr Pjomo, the VO is calling you
Me: calling me?. She just denied me. I replied
CGI: yeah she told me to call you back
Me: Look, I’m not here to beg for visa, if US doesn’t grant me, another country will
CGI: we are sorry sir, just obey her call
Me: Okay. (I obliged)

Back to the main building
Same VO: I was only joking with you , I just wanna see your reaction
Me: I thought as much as my answers were amazing and I spoke audibly
VO: (utter the sweet words) I will be approving your visa. Pick it up on bla bla and proceed to pay the reciprocity fee.

It can only be God. Thanks to fairheart, julsbaby, slimmy2005, lagosismyhome, imperiouxxx., walspring, justwise, holuwadarey ftos. You guys are the best! I owe you alot

Wow what a transcript... pleased to see the ending

Congrats... May God bless your new journey

degxyflexy:
I was about submitting my application with Tulane University for Fall 2021. Its showing that I should pay the $50 application fee but they sent me an email that my application has been successfully submitted. I don't understand because it's still showing awaiting payment on my application portal.

Yeah, it happens.
They may still send in another mail telling you to complete your registration.
But to be on a safe side, send them a mail asap and clarify with them

Pjomo:
Appointment was 7am

Me: Goodmorning
VO: why USA
Me: Answered
VO: Why NCAT
Me: Answered
VO: what research
Me: Answered But seems she wasn’t impressed, (VO cuts in)
VO: Are you married
Me: Answered
VO: I’m sorry you are not qualified bla bla bla, and she gave me a white paper

As I was going out of the building past the security men, the CGI guy came to call me back
CGI: (running fast) Mr Pjomo Mr Pjomo, the VO is calling you
Me: calling me?. She just denied me. I replied
CGI: yeah she told me to call you back
Me: Look, I’m not here to beg for visa, if US doesn’t grant me, another country will
CGI: we are sorry sir, just obey her call
Me: Okay. (I obliged)

Back to the main building
Same VO: I was only joking with you , I just wanna see your reaction
Me: I thought as much as my answers were amazing and I spoke audibly
VO: (utter the sweet words) I will be approving your visa. Pick it up on bla bla and proceed to pay the reciprocity fee.

It can only be God. Thanks to fairheart, julsbaby, slimmy2005, lagosismyhome, imperiouxxx., walspring, justwise, holuwadarey ftos. You guys are the best! I owe you alot

wetin be this

Chonco:
Anytime you wake up, always shout at the top of your voice, "The devil is a bastard"

Congrats. But, kindly give us the full gist or the answer you provided. This "answer" you wrote here is not enough.

CONGRATS once more

Thank bro. I will post the full transcript when I settle down in the USA

degxyflexy:
I was about submitting my application with Tulane University for Fall 2021. Its showing that I should pay the $50 application fee but they sent me an email that my application has been successfully submitted. I don't understand because it's still showing awaiting payment on my application portal.

University of Tulane is absolutely free. I inquired from one of their graduate coordinators. Don't worry...

Hello People,

Pls, between DHL, FedEx and UPS, which is more reliable and faster?
How long does it take to deliver?

quasarJose:
University of Tulane is absolutely free. I inquired from one of their graduate coordinators. Don't worry...

Oh, that's good. That means, there's nothing to worry about.

Chonco:
Hello People,

Pls, between DHL, FedEx and UPS, which is more reliable and faster?
How long does it take to deliver?

Dhl

Omoooo���... Congrats

Pjomo:
Appointment was 7am

Me: Goodmorning
VO: why USA
Me: Answered
VO: Why NCAT
Me: Answered
VO: what research
Me: Answered But seems she wasn’t impressed, (VO cuts in)
VO: Are you married
Me: Answered
VO: I’m sorry you are not qualified bla bla bla, and she gave me a white paper

As I was going out of the building past the security men, the CGI guy came to call me back
CGI: (running fast) Mr Pjomo Mr Pjomo, the VO is calling you
Me: calling me?. She just denied me. I replied
CGI: yeah she told me to call you back
Me: Look, I’m not here to beg for visa, if US doesn’t grant me, another country will
CGI: we are sorry sir, just obey her call
Me: Okay. (I obliged)

Back to the main building
Same VO: I was only joking with you , I just wanna see your reaction
Me: I thought as much as my answers were amazing and I spoke audibly
VO: (utter the sweet words) I will be approving your visa. Pick it up on bla bla and proceed to pay the reciprocity fee.

It can only be God. Thanks to fairheart, julsbaby, slimmy2005, lagosismyhome, imperiouxxx., walspring, justwise, holuwadarey ftos. You guys are the best! I owe you alot

Lifeisforliving:
Dhl

Thank you.

Pjomo:
Thank bro. I will post the full transcript when I settle down in the USA

Honestly, You shouldn’t have bothered posting it

Milkshakes01:
Honestly, You shouldn’t have bothered posting it

you guys actually believe him?

Mine was moved from Dec 9, 11am to Dec 9, 7am

Hollyholy:
I got same and I didnt initiate it so that means it's possible.

Mine was moved from 23rd 9am to 24th 7am.

What about urs?

Chonco:
Oh, that's good. That means, there's nothing to worry about.

Yes sir!!!!

CaptainMarvell:
Mine was moved from Dec 9, 11am to Dec 9, 7am

Lagos?

Thanks, I already sent them a mail. I am waiting to get a reply from them.

Chonco:
Yeah, it happens.
They may still send in another mail telling you to complete your registration.
But to be on a safe side, send them a mail asap and clarify with them

OK, noted. Thanks for the update

quasarJose:
University of Tulane is absolutely free. I inquired from one of their graduate coordinators. Don't worry...

Friedpotato:
you guys actually believe him?

It's possible.
I've heard of someone trying to fight the security officials there(after denial) and at the course of that fight, the Consular General was just arriving and accidentally, he saw what was going on, immediately, he instructed the VO to issue the man visa o