livingchrist:
this is funny! So if Jehovah and Angels are same Spirit then by nature Jehovah is an angelic creature.

That means Jehovah is not the only true God

Satan has duped you people

Do Jesus have God's nature in heaven or not?

Jozzy4:


You are very dull sha, ever since you re asked the form of angels and you replied God Almighty , am not shocked anymore.

Are you saying everything he mentioned there are false?

No wonder, you couldn't counter them.

If not because you're so dull and forgetful, I remembered @Blabbermouth already thrashed that earlier when he used Animals and human form example.

Both human and animals are called NATURAL BEING but does that make animals and human to have the same NATURE?

Of course the nature of animals and human is considered to be PHYSICAL OR FLESH because it can be touched and seen.

Likewise, the nature of God and Angels is considered to be SPIRIT because it can't be touch and seen.

But God and Angels being considered to be SPIRIT BEINGS doesn't means they both have THE SAME NATURE as human and Animals can be said to exist in the same nature.

The nature of Yahweh makes Him, self-existence, eternal (indestructible), and uncreated.

In simple term, nature is what distinguished one being from another, no wonder @Blabbermouth could say you people logic will mean Angels are God too since to think God and Angels have the same nature means they BOTH CO EXIST in the same way.

Even within the animals, they're nature can be said to be the same.

The nature of fish makes it live inside water while some can both live in water and land. These are not authority but what was found WITHIN THE BEING of such entity.

Authority on the other hand means being in the same nature yet have power to enact some decisions.

For example, Jesus said, "this is why you will know that THE SON OF MAN has authority to forgive sin"

Notice how Jesus classified Himself as being of the same nature with human as "SON OF MAN" yet the authority to forgive sin was in place which is what only God could do.

We'll keep educating you people!

haddeylium:
You sha like it when Jw spoon-feed you

In Nature, Jehovah and the Angels are the same (Spirit)
But in Authority, Only Jehovah is Almighty!

Do you copy?

I copy copy you ojaare.

livingchrist:
this is funny! So if Jehovah and Angels are same Spirit then by nature Jehovah is an angelic creature.

That means Jehovah is not the only true God

Satan has duped you people

1/ What does the word angel (i.e. angelic) in its purest form, mean?
2/ What fundamentally is an angel (i.e. malakh in Hebrew or angelos in Greek)?
3/ Are angels, an exclusive celestial beings affair thing or there also exist, terrestrial being angels too (i.e. human being angels)?
4/ Who really and particularly, is the "The angel of the LORD"?
5/ What is the identity of "The angel of the LORD"?

haddeylium:
Do Jesus have God's nature in heaven or not?

Jesus does have God's nature in heaven and even elsewhere

Emusan:


Another one

Jesus was just BORN BY SPIRIT....Barristter07 2020

What then is to be BORN OF SPIRIT?



Olodo....of the century!

Jesus statement to Nicodemus was you must be BORN AGAIN which Nicodemus presume to be ENTERING WOMB the second time which Jesus then clarified that, No! You must be born of spirit and water.

So being born of spirit means the Birth is through the Agent of the Holy Spirit.

Without a Physical woman.

In your deluded mind, when a person is Born of Spirit, they become an human Baby ?

Now, you agreed Jesus was BORN BY SPIRIT....

So what does it mean to be BORN OF SPIRT?

It means adoption as God's Spirit son.

So you agree I'm a student of the Bible.



Just as @Blabbermouth said, if you don't understand something, you ask!

Born OF FLESH means we are a PRODUCT of FLESH

That's the point.

Born of Spirit means we're a product of spirit at the New Birth.

New birth as brand new baby ? Idiot

So ALL JEHOVAH WITNESS are not FAITHFUL but only those who will reign with Christ are faithful, that's nice.

This brings us back to my point.

At what point were they Born of Spirit?
1. During their life on earth
2. After they died

See this dubious entity....

So BORN OF SPIRIT "is a NEW KIND OF BIRTH"

can you see how he finally agreed with my initial point that BORN OF SPIRIT IS SPIRIT is a NEW BIRTH every believers must under go before reigning with Christ.


So how can a NEW birth be suddenly change to RESURRECTED to A SPIRIT BEING? is where you need to explain.

Yes it is, but you must first tell us WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE BORN OF SPIRIT.

1Pet 1:3,4

" new birth into a living HOPE through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade. This inheritance is kept in heaven for you, "

A person knows they have been adopted as A Spirit son while they are on Earth just as Peter knows, But the product as a Spirit person is an HOPE. One that happen at their ressurection .

Understand the meaning of hope and your ignorance will be cured.

MuttleyLaff:

Jesus does have God's nature in heaven and even elsewhere

To stay on the discuss, I'll only respond to the last

Nature means the form, the basic makeup or constitution of something

God nature is Spirit(not physical)- meaning it's invisible and sort!
Jesus too was in God's form(Philippians 2:5-. Made alive back to spirit after his earthly course(1 pet 3:18), He became invisible again(Timothy 6:14-16)

The Nature of a Nature and bike is the samething!- Made of Metal!
But by Superiority/Authority- The Aeroplane is the highest
Just focus on the what I intended to pass with that illustration

haddeylium:


To stay on the discuss, I'll only respond to the last

Nature means the form, the basic makeup or constitution of something

God nature is Spirit(not physical)- meaning it's invisible and sort!
Jesus too was in God's form(Philippians 2:5-. Made alive back to spirit after his earthly course(1 pet 3:18), He became invisible again(Timothy 6:14-16)

The Nature of a Nature and bike is the samething!- Made of Metal!
But by Superiority/Authority- The Aeroplane is the highest
Just focus on the what I intended to pass with that illustration

Oh, Mutteylaff...Ignore this
I thought you mean otherwise!

The resurected ones with heavenly hope will share in this divine nature too tho

Barristter07:
Without a Physical woman.

In your deluded mind, when a person is Born of Spirit, they become an human Baby?

who said so?

Born of Spirit means "adoption as God's SPIRIT SON" as you said below which means they're still A PRODUCT of Holy Spirit.

It means adoption as God's Spirit son.

On what ground were they ADOPTED by the Holy Spirit?

New birth as brand new baby ? Idiot

Oponu...

Born of Spirit means we're a product of spirit at the New Birth.

1Pet 1:3,4 " new birth into a living HOPE through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade. This inheritance is kept in heaven for you, "

A person knows they have been adopted as A Spirit son while they are on Earth just as Peter knows, But the product as a Spirit person is an HOPE. One that happen at their ressurection.

Firstly, see the oponu who keeps falling back to my initial point...so you agree again that "it's a PRODUCT" which is not being a baby ode...

Also, on what ground were they ADOPTED as a SPIRIT SON?

Lastly, the verse is talking about Christ resurrection which all believers will experience.

1 Peter 1:8-9 "Though you have not seen him, you love him; and even though you do not see him now, you believe in him and are filled with an inexpressible and glorious joy, 9 for you are receiving the end result of your faith, the salvation of your souls."

Understand the meaning of hope and your ignorance will be cured.

There's one HOPE for all believers.

Oponu ode!

Emusan:


Are you saying everything he mentioned there are false?

No wonder, you couldn't counter them.

If not because you're so dull and forgetful, I remembered @Blabbermouth already thrashed that earlier when he used Animals and human form example.

Both human and animals are called NATURAL BEING but does that make animals and human to have the same NATURE?

Of course the nature of animals and human is considered to be PHYSICAL OR FLESH because it can be touched and seen.


Likewise, the nature of God and Angels is considered to be SPIRIT because it can't be touch and seen.

But God and Angels being considered to be SPIRIT BEINGS doesn't means they both have THE SAME NATURE as human and Animals can be said to exist in the same nature.

The nature of Yahweh makes Him, self-existence, eternal (indestructible), and uncreated.

In simple term, nature is what distinguished one being from another, no wonder @Blabbermouth could say you people logic will mean Angels are God too since to think God and Angels have the same nature means they BOTH CO EXIST in the same way.

Even within the animals, they're nature can be said to be the same.

The nature of fish makes it live inside water while some can both live in water and land. These are not authority but what was found WITHIN THE BEING of such entity.

Authority on the other hand means being in the same nature yet have power to enact some decisions.

For example, Jesus said, "this is why you will know that THE SON OF MAN has authority to forgive sin"

Notice how Jesus classified Himself as being of the same nature with human as "SON OF MAN" yet the authority to forgive sin was in place which is what only God could do.

We'll keep educating you people!

You rant too much, the bold is what I need. Likewise Those born of spirit have the hope of existing in that same nature .

livingchrist:
for real? HahaHaha so the difference between God Almighty and those born of spirit is authority?

Authority is the right to do something
Nature is what something is

It mean if God is All powerful then those born of Spirit are also all powerful but they dont have right to use their power.
That is so gross

God , his angels and those born of Spirit at their Ressurection all share the same form , Spirit. Biblical fact . You can rant as you want, I was even expecting you to quote anywhere anyone said Angels are God Almighty. None. Y'all are just bunch of liars

Emusan:


who said so?

Born of Spirit means "adoption as God's SPIRIT SON" as you said below which means they're still A PRODUCT of Holy Spirit.



On what ground were they ADOPTED by the Holy Spirit?



Oponu...

Born of Spirit means we're a product of spirit at the New Birth.



Firstly, see the oponu who keeps falling back to my initial point...so you agree again that "it's a PRODUCT" which is not being a baby ode...

Also, on what ground were they ADOPTED as a SPIRIT SON?

Lastly, the verse is talking about Christ resurrection which all believers will experience.

1 Peter 1:8-9 "Though you have not seen him, you love him; and even though you do not see him now, you believe in him and are filled with an inexpressible and glorious joy, 9 for you are receiving the end result of your faith, the salvation of your souls."



There's one HOPE for all believers.

Oponu ode!

Mumu Emusan don cast, shebi Jesus through Mary is born of spirit , it mean anyone born of spirit turn to a baby .

livingchrist:
A quick question for you do devils have same nature as God, since they are spirits?

Do righteous human beings and wicked human beings have the same nature, since they are flesh? There you go.

Emusan:


who said so?

Oh Jesus at birth is no longer born of spirit ?

Born of Spirit means "adoption as God's SPIRIT SON" as you said below which means they're still A PRODUCT of Holy Spirit.

On what ground were they ADOPTED by the Holy Spirit?

Oponu...

Born of Spirit means we're a product of spirit at the New Birth.

Firstly, see the oponu who keeps falling back to my initial point...so you agree again that "it's a PRODUCT" which is not being a baby ode...

Also, on what ground were they ADOPTED as a SPIRIT SON?

The product is a Spirit person , but it's an hope at their Ressurection.

What is born of spirit is Spirit. not man

As for the criteria , Read John 3:8

Lastly, the verse is talking about Christ resurrection which all believers will experience.

1 Peter 1:8-9 "Though you have not seen him, you love him; and even though you do not see him now, you believe in him and are filled with an inexpressible and glorious joy, 9 for you are receiving the end result of your faith, the salvation of your souls."

There's one HOPE for all believers.

Oponu ode!

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This is why I keep mentioning ressurection, everyone adopted through the new birth has a HOPE , Ressurection as a Spirit person like Jesus. Everlasting life in heaven , this is why Peter said " reserved in the heaven for you ".

What is born of spirit , IS ? SPIRIT . Heaven is the abode of Spirit persons . The earth is for sons of men

DappaD:


Do righteous human beings and wicked human beings have the same nature, since they are flesh? There you go.

One two.

Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Let worship be done on earth as it is in heaven.
I see true worshippers with their natural body entering a spirit temple to worship a spirit God without a spirit in spirit.


I bless the day I was baptized.

Emusan:
Another one

Jesus was just BORN BY SPIRIT....Barristter07 2020

What then is to be BORN OF SPIRIT?

Olodo....of the century!

Jesus statement to Nicodemus was you must be BORN AGAIN which Nicodemus presume to be ENTERING WOMB the second time which Jesus then clarified that, No! You must be born of spirit and water.

So being born of spirit means the Birth is through the Agent of the Holy Spirit.

Now, you agreed Jesus was BORN BY SPIRIT....

So what does it mean to be BORN OF SPIRT?

So you agree I'm a student of the Bible.

Just as @Blabbermouth said, if you don't understand something, you ask!

Born OF FLESH means we are a PRODUCT of FLESH

That's the point.

Born of Spirit means we're a product of spirit at the New Birth.

So ALL JEHOVAH WITNESS are not FAITHFUL but only those who will reign with Christ are faithful, that's nice.

This brings us back to my point.

At what point were they Born of Spirit?
1. During their life on earth
2. After they died

See this dubious entity....

So BORN OF SPIRIT "is a NEW KIND OF BIRTH"

can you see how he finally agreed with my initial point that BORN OF SPIRIT IS SPIRIT is a NEW BIRTH every believers must under go before reigning with Christ.

So how can a NEW birth be suddenly change to RESURRECTED to A SPIRIT BEING? is where you need to explain.

Yes it is, but you must first tell us WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE BORN OF SPIRIT.

Barristter07:
Without a Physical woman.

In your deluded mind, when a person is Born of Spirit, they become an human Baby ?

It means adoption as God's Spirit son.

New birth as brand new baby ? Idiot

1Pet 1:3,4

"new birth into a living HOPE through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade. This inheritance is kept in heaven for you, "

A person knows they have been adopted as A Spirit son while they are on Earth just as Peter knows, But the product as a Spirit person is an HOPE. One that happen at their ressurection .

Understand the meaning of hope and your ignorance will be cured.

"¹Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a leader of the Jews.
²He came to Jesus at night and said, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs You are doing if God were not with him.”
³Jesus replied, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.
⁴“How can a man be born when he is old?” Nicodemus asked. “Can he enter his mother’s womb a second time to be born?
⁵Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.
⁶Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit.
⁷Do not be amazed that I said, ‘You must be born again.
⁸The wind blows where it wishes. You hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.
⁹“How can this be? Nicodemus asked.
¹⁰“You are Israel’s teacher, said Jesus, “and you do not understand these things?
¹¹Truly, truly, I tell you, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, and yet you people do not accept our testimony.
¹²If I have told you about earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you about heavenly things? ”
- John 3:1-12

Gentlemen, brother and learned friend other brother, enough of the tirade of ping pong abuses nah.

This issue of born again wasn't even a public affair consumption thing. It only came to the fore because Nicodemus, a respected teacher of Israel and highly placed member of the Sanhedrin clandestinely and under the cover of darkness, at John 3:1-4, coming from his many observations, went to a meeting with Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, to make inquiries, so, to get to know and get to know more.

Apparently, it's a given, that except one is born again, one cannot see the demonstrations of the move and/or power of God to the point of acknowledging it and attributing them to God, so is why Jesus in John 3:3, confirmed and doubly affirmed, that all what Nicodemus admitted to in John 3:2, is not possible except such person is born from on high (i.e. born again)

Now, here's a cogent and concise point, detractors, scoffers, mockers, cynics, skeptics et cetera will deny the power of God in play and even worse because they aren't born again will regard what they observed happening before their eyes, as being caused by Beelzebub et cetera

Nicodemus slipped on the "born again" banana skin and struggled to grasp the import, because he carnally minded was thinking of a second time around physical birth. While still thinking, Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, stepped up a higher gear, switching from "see the kingdom of God" and going to "enter the kingdom of God" lmso, this befuddled Nicodemus the more, that made Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, literally at John 3:9-10, say in a paraphrased manner:
"C'mon, My guy, Nicodemus, how come you a big man Israel Bible teacher dont already know all these Bible 101 kindergarten things nah, Biko, no fall My Hand jor"

One of the first instalments of having the luxury of being born again is the capacity to acknowledge, give admission, confession, acceptance of observing, seeing, experiencing the move and power of God. that is exactly what and all Nicodemus did on that night meeting with Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ

This first instalment is not the be al end all, just as our learned brother Barristter07 piggybacked on 1 Peter 1:3-4, that states we born-again or "born from on high", with additionally instalments in terms of hope, expectations, confidence, trust et cetera. All these are guaranteed on the basis, truth and fact that God died for us or in our place, in the person of Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ and resurrected from death, hence paid the cost or price of sin and defeated death.

haddeylium:
To stay on the discuss, I'll only respond to the last

Nature means the form, the basic makeup or constitution of something

God nature is Spirit (not physical)- meaning it's invisible and sort!

I doubt anyone is in dispute with you that "God nature is Spirit (not physical)- meaning it's invisible and sort!" sic

haddeylium:
Jesus too was in God's form [Philippians 2:5-8]. Made alive back to spirit after his earthly course (1 pet 3:18), He became invisible again (Timothy 6:14-16)

"²⁶Then God (i.e. Elohim or the Godhead) said, “Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness, to rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it.”
²⁷So God (i.e. Elohim or the Godhead) created man in His own image; in the image of God (i.e. Elohim or the Godhead) He created him; male and female He created them.
²⁸God (i.e. Elohim or the Godhead) blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and every creature that crawls upon the earth.”"
- Genesis 1:26-28

I am certain that if you with eagle eyes had read Genesis 1:26-28, you would have spotted that though God (i.e. Elohim or the Godhead) is incorporeal, there exists a way of how God is, how God is to be seen as, God is to be perceived, understood, realised, known as, known for, known to be et cetera, hence why God announced to make human beings (i.e. man) in the image of and after the likeness of God (i.e. Elohim or the Godhead)

The God series of project(s) started with an image of God created, that is physically instant, while the likeness, is continuum (i.e. progressively continuous)

What are the nature of God. To a list a few, they will be:
Creator, Mobility/Movement, Perception, Protector, Provider, Sustainer, Defender, Justice minded, Intelligence, Ability, Capability, Innovator, Developer, Architect, Influential/Influence, Authority, Command, Control, Problem Solver, Solution Provider, Epitome of Love or Love Personified, Compassion, Loyalty, Faithfulness, Goodness et cetera

Dont place any limitations, whatsoever, on the LORD, (i.e. Yahweh) our God (i.e. Elohim or the Godhead), the LORD (i.e. Yahweh) is one (i.e. Deuteronomy 6:4 or Mark 12:29).

haddeylium:
The Nature of a Nature and bike is the samething!- Made of Metal!
But by Superiority/Authority- The Aeroplane is the highest
Just focus on the what I intended to pass with that illustration

"³Don’t be selfish; don’t try to impress others.
Be humble, thinking of others as better than yourselves.
⁴Don’t look out only for your own interests, but take an interest in others, too.
⁵You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had.
⁶Though he was God, He did not think of equality with God as something to cling to.
⁷Instead, He gave up his divine privileges; He took the humble position of a slave
and was born as a human being. When He appeared in human form,
⁸He humbled himself in obedience to God and died a criminal’s death on a cross.
⁹Therefore, God elevated Him to the place of highest honor
and gave Him the name above all other names,
¹⁰that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
¹¹and every tongue declare that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
- Philippians 2:3-11

Please dont make a habit of trying to use a natural to absolutely explain away anything of the supernatural, especially when tackling anything like in the league of God, lmso.

The nature of God, though incorporeal is manifested as a physical representation with the creation of human beings made in the form of male and female. Earthly sanctuary, is a mere copy/shadow of whats in the heavenly (i.e. Hebrews 8:5)

haddeylium:
Oh, Mutteylaff...Ignore this
I thought you mean otherwise!

The resurected ones with heavenly hope will share in this divine nature too tho

Sorry Boss, a bit late, as I had already responded before seeing this warning, but we still are complementing each other anyway

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haddeylium:
Jesus too was in God's form [Philippians 2:5-8]. Made alive back to spirit after his earthly course (1 pet 3:18), He became invisible again (Timothy 6:14-16)

"⁷Jesus replied,
“It is not for you to know times or seasons that the Father has fixed by His own authority.
⁸But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes upon you, and you will be My witnesses in Jerusalem,
and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.
⁹After He had said this, they watched as He was taken up, and a cloud hid Him from their sight."
- Acts 1:7-8

PS: As regards your above comment. Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ' body is its glorified body state, is still very much alive and visible, then 1 Timothy 6:14-16, at 1 Timothy 6:14 is referring to Yahweh, while 1 Timothy 6:15 it is Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ who is being referred to to there and then at 1 Timothy 6:16, back again, is referring to Yahweh.

Now because Yahweh is invisible, and because no one has seen or can see Yahweh, then the only possible way and available means to see Yahweh, is through Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ. Once you see Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, you have seen God/Yahweh

It is Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ you'll be seeing sitting on the throne, since He is visible and Yahweh/God isn't visible.

MuttleyLaff:
I doubt anyone is in dispute with you that "God nature is Spirit (not physical)- meaning it's invisible and sort!" sic

Did you see the part I said you should ignore?
I misinterpreted what you said . ' I thought you meant Jesus doesn't have the same nature as his Father'..I mistaken!

The Nature of Jehovah is Spirit!
Jesus too is in God's Form(nature).
Jehovah made the Angels Spirit too
The first resurrected ones too will have a share in this divine nature and be like Jesus in is spirit Form!
All these ones have one thing in common...NATURE!

But in Authority....only Jehovah is Almighty

We share the same nature with Buhari..But, when it comes to superior Authority in Nigeria...Only Buhari is Almighty (President)

Thanks for your time

MuttleyLaff:
Sorry Boss, a bit late, as I had already responded before seeing this warning, but we still are complementing each other anyway

Thanks man!

haddeylium:
Did you see the part I said you should ignore?
I misinterpreted what you said . ' I thought you meant Jesus doesn't have the same nature as his Father'..I mistaken!

The Nature of Jehovah is Spirit!
Jesus too is in God's Form(nature).
Jehovah made the Angels Spirit too
The first resurrected ones too will have a share in this divine nature and be like Jesus in is spirit Form!
All these ones have one thing in common...NATURE!

But in Authority....only Jehovah is Almighty

We share the same nature with Buhari..But, when it comes to superior Authority in Nigeria...Only Buhari is Almighty (President)

Thanks for your time

Did you not see how I posted: Sorry, a bit late, et cetera, ni, hmm?

PMB is almight in his sphere of influence, he is not almighty in our household nor in any shape of form in our relationship with God.

Whatever measly authority PMB has comes from God

Just before the proverbial spanner was thrown into the works, Man, by default, was meant to, "work in progress" style, have the nature of God.

With the help of the Comforter, we are practice gradually having the nature of God (i.e. the manifestation of the fruit of the Holy Spirit)

Jozzy4:
You rant too much, the bold is what I need. Likewise Those born of spirit have the hope of existing in that same nature.

After you've been schooled...olodo!

But there is only ONE HOPE for every believers.

Jozzy4:


Mumu Emusan don cast, shebi Jesus through Mary is born of spirit , it mean anyone born of spirit turn to a baby .

No wonder I do say you people lack simple comprehension.

Born of Spirit must mean A SPIRIT BEING according to your lying doctrine.

So if Jesus was born of spirit as human then it means Jesus should be A SPIRIT BEING while on earth.

But you won't agree that Jesus is a spirit being on earth, which then means BORN OF SPIRIT doesn't mean BEING A SPIRIT BEING.

Ode...

Barristter07:
Oh Jesus at birth is no longer born of spirit ?

Oponu....i was just using that to reiterate your lying doctrine.

Jesus was born of spirit as human which then means Jesus must be A Spirit being on earth.

The product is a Spirit person , but it's an hope at their Ressurection.

What is born of spirit is Spirit. not man

Liar, the product is A NEW BIRTH, not becoming a spirit person

All believers have ONE HOPE OF RESURRECTION.

Also, Jesus was BORN OF SPIRIT at Resurrection, right

As for the criteria , Read John 3:8

John 3:8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”

I didn't see any criteria here, can you point it out?

The truth from the scripture is that ALL BELIEVERS ARE ADOPTED SONS OF GOD AND BORN OF GOD.

But to all who believed him and accepted him, he gave the right to become children of God. 13 They are reborn—not with a physical birth resulting from human passion or plan, but a birth that comes from God. John 1:12-13

Unless you can proof to us that this scripture is selective in nature.

Not having God's new rebirth means you're doomed forever and your abode is everlasting fire, lack RUSSELL.

This is why I keep mentioning ressurection,

But at Resurrection we will have the pattern of the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

42 It is the same way with the resurrection of the dead. Our earthly bodies are planted in the ground when we die, but they will be raised to live forever. 43 Our bodies are buried in brokenness, but they will be raised in glory. They are buried in weakness, but they will be raised in strength. 44 They are buried as natural human bodies, but they will be raised as spiritual bodies. For just as there are natural bodies, there are also spiritual bodies.

My challenge to you is @color, Kindly provide us from the scripture where it stated that OUR NATURAL BODIES will be buried and raised as NATURAL HUMAN BODIES.

It's evident that ALL RESURRECTED BODIES will be buried in NATURAL HUMAN BODIES and RAISED in SPIRITUAL BODIES.

everyone adopted through the new birth has a HOPE

Yes, as all believers are adopted by the new birth not some selective people once you're not adopted son of God, you can't be in His kingdom and your abode is everlasting fire.

Ressurection as a Spirit person like Jesus.

Jesus Christ resurrected as flesh and bone which is the antitypes of resurrection every believers will have.

Nobody will be resurrected as a spirit being.

Everlasting life in heaven , this is why Peter said " reserved in the heaven for you ".

So what of when Jesus said we should store our treasures in heaven? Isn't that means we're all going to heaven where our treasures are?

Besides, I went on to quote the remaining portion of that verse which shows that the promise is for ALL BELIEVERS.

What is born of spirit , IS ? SPIRIT . Heaven is the abode of Spirit persons . The earth is for sons of men

And ALL BELIEVERS ARE BORN OF SPIRIT...so heaven is abode for all believers.

MaxInDHouse:

They will rule with Christ Jesus!
It's just a pity that you don't know the meaning of rule with Christ my friend, for your information it simply means whoever had the opportunity of meeting these anointed ones or those they're supervising and disregard them has been judged already! Matthew 10:13-15
So if you have no opportunity of meeting with the first century anointed ones, you need to IDENTIFY those acting in their place today because judgment is ongoing presently, whoever disregards them has been condemned! Matthew 16:19
Imagine an Israelite who disregard the first century Apostles simply because he didn't know they are representatives of the Christ whom all their forefathers has been expecting!
Jesus said "such a person has been judged already" {John 3:18} so it's not a matter of "i don't know them" that's why Jesus emphasized much on the IDENTITY of his real followers {Matthew 5:13-16, 7:16-18; John 13:34-35 }

all these crap for a simple question?
The first resurrection only involves those that were killed for Christ and those that did not accept the mark of the beast.

The first resurrection means those who will be raised as spirit beings they can not die again since they're heading to heaven immediately as they rise from the dead. The rest are those who will be resurrected as flesh, they can still die because Satan will be released to tempt them after the 1,000 years of intense training from the Christians amongst them.
God's word said they are not alive until the thousand years were ended because God doesn't count this life we are living now as the real life {1Timothy 6:19} since death still reign on earth! Romans 5:17
It's when God declares everlasting life [Revelation 21:3-4} that he refers to those on earth as living, until then all are still like walking corpse! Matthew 8:22
Thanks and God bless you!

So according to you only those who are resurrected as Spirit beings will have everlasting life right?
The rest will be resurrected as flesh which can still die right?
Which means some Christians will have eternal life but some will not have, right?



You dont know what you have just gotten into, it seems you are taking something or you need to take something.


How do you reconcil your redicoulus statement with what Jesus said

John 5:24
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

You cant stop churning up lies can you? Where did you see Spirit resurrection in the bible?


Lie, lie It is clearly stated that the rest dead wont be resurrected until the thousand years are over.

How does life we are living now concern the 1000 years of Christ reign?

The simple question is who are the rest of the dead?

You said dead cannot be judged for the past actions right?

haddeylium:


Get yourself some English class on YouTube... it's free

Check for the meaning of Authority/Almighty , Nature/Spirit.

The nature of God is SPIRIT, so are the Angels!

In Authority, only JEHOVAH is Almighty!
The Angels are Messengers!


BUHARI Nature is being a Human ( with flesh and blood). So are you!
But, in Authority, He's the only President!


In regards to Nigeria, Is BUHARI the only true President?
Think!

clown! You people are comic relief seriously, If Jehovah and Angels has same nature, then Jehovah is an angel.

Authority is not a nature, president has to do with position, but Godhood is not position but nature.
Godhood is a form just like humanity,

Philippians 2:6
Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:



So according to you people Jehovah is an angel.

haddeylium:


Get yourself some English class on YouTube... it's free

Check for the meaning of Authority/Almighty , Nature/Spirit.

The nature of God is SPIRIT, so are the Angels!

In Authority, only JEHOVAH is Almighty!
The Angels are Messengers!


BUHARI Nature is being a Human ( with flesh and blood). So are you!
But, in Authority, He's the only President!


In regards to Nigeria, Is BUHARI the only true President?
Think!

oga define nature and authority? After all google is your friend.
Haha bunch of clowns

Is Godhood not a nature like human being is ?

haddeylium:


Do Jesus have God's nature in heaven or not?

Jesus is God no doubt about that, Trinitarians has no problem with that

Jozzy4:


God , his angels and those born of Spirit at their Ressurection all share the same form , Spirit. Biblical fact . You can rant as you want, I was even expecting you to quote anywhere anyone said Angels are God Almighty. None. Y'all are just bunch of liars

, Do you still need bible quotations after tons of scripture has proven your teachings as fraudulent over and over again.

Since Jehovah and Angels has nature then Jehovah automatically is an angel nah,
when Jesus took the form of a servant wasnt he a servant?
So when Angels and the resurrected take the true God's form, then they become true Gods like Jehovah nah is that one too hard for your brain again.

Philippians 2:7
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

livingchrist:
clown! You people are comic relief seriously, If Jehovah and Angels has same nature, then Jehovah is an angel.

Authority is not a nature, president has to do with position, but Godhood is not position but nature.
Godhood is a form just like humanity,
Philippians 2:6
Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
So according to you people Jehovah is an angel.

Kó ni su mi, I'll keep on educating you

Nature means the form, the basic makeup or constitution of something

Angel means Messengers.
The Spirit Sons of God holds the position of a Messenger (Angel)
Their Father, who's is a spirit holds the title of God Almighty

They're both spirit by nature which is Invisible to human eyes!

But, Jehovah holds the most superior authority by AUTHORITY!

DappaD:


Do righteous human beings and wicked human beings have the same nature, since they are flesh? There you go.

By nature both the wicked and the righteous are humans.
Answer the question and stop shifting

livingchrist:
Jesus is God no doubt about that, Trinitarians has no problem with that

Is he a God by nature (being spirit) or what?