Amotolongbo:
argumentum ad ignorantium.

Civilization had started far back, a very long time before Christianity.

Depends on your definition of civilization, the older standard definition would say yes to just about every region that became Christian post 350 AD

The best thing in life is being a blessing to others.

Ibadansun1:
He forgot western civilization which people mistake for Christian civilization is a stolen one.

They stole Architecture from the East

Stole Music and rythem from Africa

Stole Food and spices from far east etc.

This isn't really an argument, everything is inspired from somewhere else and "nothing is new under the sun".

It applies to everybody, every invention is an adjustable on something previous.

No hate but wish he could commission such in Benue state too

Wow, it's a massive project.

Rgade:

The greatest pioneers of ancient civilization were actually pagan countries and idol worshippers.

Post Christianity basically every advanced state, except maybe the Hindus were some version of belief in a unitary supreme being/force.

FA13:

No, you are ignorant rather.
In context of Nigeria, Christianity brought western education and was the beginning if development in Nigeria and Africa as a whole.

U might say Nigeria, but not africa.
Egypt's Pyraamids and Mummies where ieons of years before their time.

Civilization? Greek,Egypt,Persia,Chinese,Babylonia,Kush,Rome, Carthage all predates Christianity.

Chii59:

Enlightened sir, what's your own contribution to your society?

exposing charlatans who collect money from widows, orphans and struggling individuals

Benesis:


U might say Nigeria, but not africa.
Egypt's Pyraamids and Mummies where ieons of years before their time.

So,Ife,Benin,Hausa cities, Igala kingdom,Oyo empire,Nupe kingdom,Borno empire all were not civilized?

Ibrahimmrfish:

So,Ice,Benin,Hausa cities, Igala kingdom,Oyo empire,Nupe kingdom,Borno empire all were not civilized?

My bad...
They were

After some MURIC people will come and tell us it is not acceptable because it was built using tithe and offerings of Muslim in Pleateu state.

Pecuman:


Post Christianity basically every advanced state, except maybe the Hindus were some version of belief in a unitary supreme being/force.

Not true, most where polytheistic.
Greek, Egyptian, Norse, etc

Ibadansun1:
He forgot western civilization which people mistake for Christian civilization is a stolen one.

They stole Architecture from the East

Stole Music and rythem from Africa

Stole Food and spices from far east etc.

Get your thumb off your mouth and come off this victim mentality.
How long will you continue this "they stole" from us chorus. It has become bland and totally distasteful!
In Joe Biden's voice "c'mon men".

drskyfly007:
please enlighten us on the exact date and period civilization came into existence..

And also tell us what you understand as civilization..

don't mind those children of hate.

Just like how the Roman Catholic rose to Power in Italy, The Church is gradually Taking over Power

simplesearch:



And they stopped the East and Africans from progressing or making improvement after copying their models?

yes they did

What did you think colonization was all about?

They work extremely hard to destroy our civilization and sold us the stolen civilization as theirs.

Amotolongbo:
argumentum ad ignorantium.

Civilization had started far back, a very long time before Christianity.

You just successfully exposed your low capacity to comprehend.

He never said Christianity started civilization, but rather, the were instrumental in spreading it to the whole world. Which means, without the activities of Christian missionaries, many parts of the world would be left uncivilized.
Which of course, is very true.

desiredhome:


Ignorant is worst thing that can happen to a man, when you think you know yet you know nothing.......

Dangote and saveral rich Nigerian entrepreneur have products they produce as well giving back to the society......... they became rich by solving problems with their products.......
A con man will rather than build factory/products that will benefit the society, build one million capacity church with the people's money then build one hospital out of the billions and ooooo, the brainwashed followers will start worshipping/singing his praise........ why won't Nigeria be this stagnant with such mindset.....

So the problem here is that you not pleased with congregation money been used to build large capacity churches? Who enjoys all these ultra modern buildings if not the worshippers, try worship in one first and you will know building mega churches is a plus to Christianity, salvation of souls is not under rated though

Ibadansun1:
He forgot western civilization which people mistake for Christian civilization is a stolen one.

They stole Architecture from the East

Stole Music and rythem from Africa

Stole Food and spices from far east etc.

Tell us the history of that stealing. Moreso, his argument was not about who began civilization but rather that, Christianity was instrumental in spreading civilization.

It's expected. Many congratulations!

But why Jos?

Why do we spend so much money to glorify the curing of diseases when we can do very little to prevent same disease? Read it again if you don't understand

To God be the glory! May God give us more people with the heart of gold like Rev S. O Academe IJN.

More business empire for dog of men, exerpt the hospital is free I cannot applaud it, because these guys gave the capacity to make it free format least the maternity and the children section, OPM did it in portharcourt

As calabar boy wey i be... Welcome development but the location is bad but those niggars aint civilise if anything happen boom that will be their main target.

GoshenNLA:

So the problem here is that you not pleased with congregation money been used to build large capacity churches? Who enjoys all these ultra modern buildings if not the worshippers, try worship in one first and you will know building mega churches is a plus to Christianity, salvation of souls is not under rated though

Is like you are still a baby for such a miopic reasoning..........
There must be life before material things.......if in Nigeria where over 50% are poor and you choice to build bricks over dying/hungry souls just because you want to enjoy modern facilities? Lol...,....
You are just being carried away by their brainwashed tactics........ Person wey never see food eat dey talk of modern building .......so after the mega/modern church you still go home hungry and the next thing is to start abusing government and politicians abi?.......

EmekaBlue:
All these new generation Churches are rich.

They ask you to pray for money but collect money from you. Why don't they pray for the money to fall from heaven?!

If i hear say enough revenue for them no go dey come from this medical center just like winners and their covenant university

All these stupid people inclusive of the Islamists, Jehovah Witnesses, etcetera who mock the Church but the Church has been at forefront of developing the world for 1800 year now.

desiredhome:


Is like you are still a baby for such a miopic reasoning..........
There must be life before material things.......if in Nigeria where over 50% are poor and you choice to build bricks over dying/hungry souls just because you want to enjoy modern facilities? Lol...,....
You are just being carried away by their brainwashed tactics........ Person wey never see food eat dey talk of modern building .......so after the mega/modern church you still go home hungry and the next thing is to start abusing government and politicians abi?.......

I think you the one been myopic, the way you totally pass the buck of poverty on religious leaders and leave out the government is amusing, very funny to my hearing
We shouldn’t blame government for poverty? We should Blame pastors for building befinitting worship centers
You amazing sir/ma

Os3e:



Where in Jos is it located pls?

opposite the new Jos stadium. Zaria road, Good luck Jonathan way..

EmekaBlue:
All these new generation Churches are rich.

They ask you to pray for money but collect money from you. Why don't they pray for the money to fall from heaven?!

If i hear say enough revenue for them no go dey come from this medical center just like winners and their covenant university

If they run it for free you would still be the first to mock after it closes down.
The universities abroad, are they cheap, even for their citizens? Why do people invest in education?
After you pay Covenant university, do you come away with anything? Do they get a percentage of your salary?
The islamic universities springing up everywhere, are they for free?
Stop the nonsense.