DappaD:


Do righteous human beings and wicked human beings have the same nature, since they are flesh? There you go.

Gbam .. Gbagam 100% [b][/b]

livingchrist:
clown! You people are comic relief seriously, If Jehovah and Angels has same nature, then Jehovah is an angel.

Authority is not a nature, president has to do with position, but Godhood is not position but nature.
Godhood is a form just like humanity,

Philippians 2:6
Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:



So according to you people Jehovah is an angel.

Mr LIENUS the Second

John 7:16. 12:49-50, Jesus na Angel,he go Message & obey command.

Bros, prove say you get SENSE..
Who give Jehovah command to obey?
Where & when Jehovah go message for anybody?

Mr LIENUS

livingchrist:
, Do you still need bible quotations after tons of scripture has proven your teachings as fraudulent over and over again.

Since Jehovah and Angels has nature then Jehovah automatically is an angel nah,
when Jesus took the form of a servant wasnt he a servant?
So when Angels and the resurrected take the true God's form, then they become true Gods like Jehovah nah is that one too hard for your brain again.

Philippians 2:7
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

Do you share your biological Father's nature?

Do you the son, have authority over your biological father?
Is your biological father your son?

Bros, prove say you get SENSE joor

Emusan:


Oponu....i was just using that to reiterate your lying doctrine.

Jesus was born of spirit as human which then means Jesus must be A Spirit being on earth.



Liar, the product is A NEW BIRTH, not becoming a spirit person

All believers have ONE HOPE OF RESURRECTION.

Also, Jesus was BORN OF SPIRIT at Resurrection, right



John 3:8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”

I didn't see any criteria here, can you point it out?

The truth from the scripture is that ALL BELIEVERS ARE ADOPTED SONS OF GOD AND BORN OF GOD.

But to all who believed him and accepted him, he gave the right to become children of God. 13 They are reborn—not with a physical birth resulting from human passion or plan, but a birth that comes from God. John 1:12-13

Unless you can proof to us that this scripture is selective in nature.

Not having God's new rebirth means you're doomed forever and your abode is everlasting fire, lack RUSSELL.



But at Resurrection we will have the pattern of the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

42 It is the same way with the resurrection of the dead. Our earthly bodies are planted in the ground when we die, but they will be raised to live forever. 43 Our bodies are buried in brokenness, but they will be raised in glory. They are buried in weakness, but they will be raised in strength. 44 They are buried as natural human bodies, but they will be raised as spiritual bodies. For just as there are natural bodies, there are also spiritual bodies.

My challenge to you is @color, Kindly provide us from the scripture where it stated that OUR NATURAL BODIES will be buried and raised as NATURAL HUMAN BODIES.

It's evident that ALL RESURRECTED BODIES will be buried in NATURAL HUMAN BODIES and RAISED in SPIRITUAL BODIES.



Yes, as all believers are adopted by the new birth not some selective people once you're not adopted son of God, you can't be in His kingdom and your abode is everlasting fire.



Jesus Christ resurrected as flesh and bone which is the antitypes of resurrection every believers will have.

Nobody will be resurrected as a spirit being.



So what of when Jesus said we should store our treasures in heaven? Isn't that means we're all going to heaven where our treasures are?

Besides, I went on to quote the remaining portion of that verse which shows that the promise is for ALL BELIEVERS.



And ALL BELIEVERS ARE BORN OF SPIRIT...so heaven is abode for all believers.

The way anger is always written all over your posts dey give me Joy . I go reply shortly

Dearly beloved Janosky, how has it been with you?

I will merge some of your comments .

Emusan:


Oponu....i was just using that to reiterate your lying doctrine.

Jesus was born of spirit as human which then means Jesus must be A Spirit being on earth.

If Jesus human birth is the meaning of born of spirit, Why then aren't those born of spirit turning to babies ? You well at all ?

I THINK THE POINT IS CLEAR. JESUS HUMAN BIRTH as a baby HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NEW BIRTH.

Liar, the product is A NEW BIRTH, not becoming a spirit person.

Nobody will be resurrected as a spirit being.

Don't act silly

New birth in which form ? Human or spirit.

Then explain the expression " Is spirit " ?

One two . I expect an answer . Sweeping away the refugee of lies. Question tagged P1

I need an answer to P1.

All believers have ONE HOPE OF RESURRECTION.

There are two ressurection. First ressurection as a Spirit person (strictly Those born of spirit among believers ) , second ressurection as humans ( Believers and unbelievers )

Also, Jesus was BORN OF SPIRIT at Resurrection, right

John 3:8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”

I didn't see any criteria here, can you point it out?

The truth from the scripture is that ALL BELIEVERS ARE ADOPTED SONS OF GOD AND BORN OF GOD.

But to all who believed him and accepted him, he gave the right to become children of God. 13 They are reborn—not with a physical birth resulting from human passion or plan, but a birth that comes from God. John 1:12-13

Unless you can proof to us that this scripture is selective in nature.

Not having God's new rebirth means you're doomed forever and your abode is everlasting fire, lack RUSSELL.

Think about the highlighted, you don't choose to be a born again, God does . And even the person can't tell how it happens.

But at Resurrection we will have the pattern of the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

42 It is the same way with the resurrection of the dead. Our earthly bodies are planted in the ground when we die, but they will be raised to live forever. 43 Our bodies are buried in brokenness, but they will be raised in glory. They are buried in weakness, but they will be raised in strength. 44 They are buried as natural human bodies, but they will be raised as spiritual bodies. For just as there are natural bodies, there are also spiritual bodies.

My challenge to you is @color, Kindly provide us from the scripture where it stated that OUR NATURAL BODIES will be buried and raised as NATURAL HUMAN BODIES.

It's evident that ALL RESURRECTED BODIES will be buried in NATURAL HUMAN BODIES and RAISED in SPIRITUAL BODIES.

Despite this red, your likes still try to say Jesus was buried natural human and raised with the same human body of kidneys and intestines.

A spiritual body is the opposite of a Natural human body , not physical . Proving the point that those born of Spirit and Jesus are all going to be Spirit persons.

Spiritual is defined as that which opposed to physical .

And for the records millions will ressurect will their Human Bodies and live forever on Earth . Revelation 21:3,4 , it says Humans , creatures of flesh and blood.

Yes, as all believers are adopted by the new birth not some selective people once you're not adopted son of God, you can't be in His kingdom and your abode is everlasting fire.



So what of when Jesus said we should store our treasures in heaven? Isn't that means we're all going to heaven where our treasures are?

Besides, I went on to quote the remaining portion of that verse which shows that the promise is for ALL BELIEVERS.



And ALL BELIEVERS ARE BORN OF SPIRIT...so heaven is abode for all believers.

Chosen to be born of spirit is not a decision an individual made as have shown you previously, the point is they have that hope of ressurection as Spirit. This is why it says what is born of spirit IS SPIRIT.

Blabbermouth:

Barristter07 chapter 9 vs 27.

Stay clear of false accusations when making points.
Can you quote where I said that ?

livingchrist:
, Do you still need bible quotations after tons of scripture has proven your teachings as fraudulent over and over again.

Since Jehovah and Angels has nature then Jehovah automatically is an angel nah,
when Jesus took the form of a servant wasnt he a servant?
So when Angels and the resurrected take the true God's form , then they become true Gods like Jehovah nah is that one too hard for your brain again.

Philippians 2:7
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

It's a biblical fact. Your rants have no basis

He make his angels Spirits.

God Himself is Spirit.

Anyone born of Spirit, is Spirit too .

Emusan:

No wonder I do say you people lack simple comprehension.

Born of Spirit must mean A SPIRIT BEING according to your lying doctrine.

So if Jesus was born of spirit as human then it means Jesus should be A SPIRIT BEING while on earth.

But you won't agree that Jesus is a spirit being on earth, which then means BORN OF SPIRIT doesn't mean BEING A SPIRIT BEING.

Ode...

The Bible said what is born of spirit , is spirit . You said it's wrong because your small brain think Jesus birth as a little child was the new birth. That's strictly your problem.

Barristter07:
I will merge some of your comments .



If Jesus human birth is the meaning of born of spirit, Why then aren't those born of spirit turning to babies ? You well at all ?

I THINK THE POINT IS CLEAR. JESUS HUMAN BIRTH as a baby HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NEW BIRTH.



Don't act silly

New birth in which form ? Human or spirit.

Then explain the expression " Is spirit " ?

One two . I expect an answer . Sweeping away the refugee of lies. Question tagged P1

I need an answer to P1.



There are two ressurection. First ressurection as a Spirit person (strictly Those born of spirit among believers ) , second ressurection as humans ( Believers and unbelievers )



Think about the highlighted, you don't choose to be a born again, God does . And even the person can't tell how it happens.



Despite this red, your likes still try to say Jesus was buried natural human and raised with the same human body of kidneys and intestines.

A spiritual body is the opposite of a Natural human body , not physical . Proving the point that those born of Spirit and Jesus are all going to be Spirit persons.

Spiritual is defined as that which opposed to physical .

And for the records millions will ressurect will their Human Bodies and live forever on Earth . Revelation 21:3,4 , it says Humans , creatures of flesh and blood.




Chosen to be born of spirit is not a decision an individual made as have shown you previously, the point is they have that hope of ressurection as Spirit. This is why it says what is born of spirit IS SPIRIT.

Emusan have nothing sensible to say, you will notice he stick with Born of the spirit, and refuse to move to the real part " Is spirit " . I like that question P1. This guy's are bunch of ignorant fellows Lol

Emusan:


After you've been schooled...olodo!

But there is only ONE HOPE for every believers.

One hope , the hope of everlasting life . But two ressurection . Open your senses

Some enjoy this hope as spirit sons (John 3:6, 1Pet 1:4) , others as human sons (Revelation 21:3,4)

Meanwhile the focus of this thread is on the spirit sons, as their nature tells us what body Jesus have after ressurection.

livingchrist:
By nature both the wicked and the righteous are humans.
Answer the question and stop shifting

So by nature, both Jehovah God and his faithful angels are spirits[John 4:24, Ps 104:4]
For your question, even the demons are powerful SPIRIT forces[Ephesians 6:12]
Go figure.

I wish I had the time to enjoy a good long laugh again.
Well, let me just observe from the side lines.

MuttleyLaff, how has spiritual cleansing been?
Anything from the Lord for your boy?

Blabbermouth:
MuttleyLaff, how has spiritual cleansing been?
Anything from the Lord for your boy?

Hebrews 4:16 nah .... Why asking me, lmso?
Go with boldness to the throne of grace, as you too have the confidence to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Yahsua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, the Lord's incarnate nah, lmso.

MuttleyLaff:


Hebrews 4:16 nah ....
Why asking me, lmso? Go with boldness to the throne of grace, as you too have the confidence to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Yahsua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, the Lord's incarnate nah, lmso.

Stingy man. In other words, go collect your own by yourself.

Emusan:


But ALL BELIEVERS ARE BORN AGAIN...

22 Now that you have purified yourselves by obeying the truth so that you have sincere love for each other, love one another deeply, from the heart.[a] 23 For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God. 1 Pet 1:22-23

1 Peter 2: 21 will come handy very soon alongside the one you mentioned above.

Blabbermouth:
Stingy man. In other words, go collect your own by yourself.

Not "spiritual cleansing", but "Temporarily closed for Spiritual Servicing & Maintenance"

Approach the throne of grace for at very least, the healthy walk benefit of it, instead of succumbing to being lazybones, lmso. No offence intended.

Interpretation is what we need Sir not arguments, i'm only telling you the interpretation that caught my attention and convincing to me, you too can present yours, don't agitate, if it's convincing you'll get individuals who will accept it.
So it's not a matter of insults or abuses, just tell people what you understand with those sacred writings and present the group practicing it as you explained that's all!

livingchrist:
all these crap for a simple question?
The first resurrection only involves those that were killed for Christ and those that did not accept the mark of the beast.




So according to you only those who are resurrected as Spirit beings will have everlasting life right?
The rest will be resurrected as flesh which can still die right?
Which means some Christians will have eternal life but some will not have, right?



You dont know what you have just gotten into, it seems you are taking something or you need to take something.


How do you reconcil your redicoulus statement with what Jesus said

John 5:24
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

You cant stop churning up lies can you? Where did you see Spirit resurrection in the bible?


Lie, lie It is clearly stated that the rest dead wont be resurrected until the thousand years are over.

How does life we are living now concern the 1000 years of Christ reign?

The simple question is who are the rest of the dead?

You said dead cannot be judged for the past actions right?

Blabbermouth:

Are you so scared to define "spirit being"?

Don't you read between lines?
If I say - Man is a natural being, I am right.
If I say - A lion is a natural being, I am right.

What then, is the Lion a human?
No!

Natural being - Lion, Tiger, Snake, and more
Spirit being - The Divine (Eloi of course), Angelic creature, spiritual man!

Do you copy?

Circles, circles, circles.

If only you knew the death Adam died the very day he ate the fruit, you won't be thus ignorant.

Any man that is born of Christ, His Spirit is made Alive.
Until this happens to you, you will never be able to perform that worhsio Christ spoke of to the woman at the well.

Don't you read between lines?
If I say - Man is a natural being, I am right.
If I say - A lion is a natural being, I am right.

What then, is the Lion a human?
No!

Natural being - Lion, Tiger, Snake, and more

Do you copy?

39All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of animals, another of fish, and another of birds.


Spirit being - The Divine (Eloi of course), Angelic creature, spiritual man!

40. THERE ARE HEAVENLY BODIES

Is this not the info you are passing across?

haddeylium:


Kó ni su mi, I'll keep on educating you

Nature means the form, the basic makeup or constitution of something

Angel means Messengers.
The Spirit Sons of God holds the position of a Messenger (Angel)
Their Father, who's is a spirit holds the title of God Almighty

They're both spirit by nature which is Invisible to human eyes!

But, Jehovah holds the most superior authority by AUTHORITY!

clown, from your write up, you said Angels has the same basic make up of the true God that also make them true gods,
So how many true gods do you have?

haddeylium:


Is he a God by nature (being spirit) or what?

Is Jehovah a true God by his nature or by position?
Where did Jehovah get his poison from?

Barristter07:


You are still showcasing your little poor knowledge of biblical Greek again. There is nothing like " a " in greek.

John 4:24 NIV


" God is spirit "

Berean study Bible

" God is Spirit "


An adjective or a noun ?

There is nothing like " a " in greek


Let me add

John 4:24

New World Translation

"God is a Spirit"

before you and your brothers sorry friend(whatever the case might be) start attaching labels like OPONU and MUMU. I know it's a translators CHOICE

achorladey:


Don't you read between lines?
If I say - Man is a natural being, I am right.
If I say - A lion is a natural being, I am right.

What then, is the Lion a human?
No!

Natural being - Lion, Tiger, Snake, and more

Do you copy?

39All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of animals, another of fish, and another of birds.

Spirit being - The Divine (Eloi of course), Angelic creature, spiritual man!

40. THERE ARE HEAVENLY BODIES

Is this not the info you are passing across?

Spot on!
If they understood that Man has a Spirit in him, they won't have become a laughing stock.

Janosky:

Mr LIENUS the Second

John 7:16. 12:49-50, Jesus na Angel,he go Message & obey command.

Bros, prove say you get SENSE..
Who give Jehovah command to obey?
Where & when Jehovah go message for anybody?

Mr LIENUS

you nor get sense, na only Angels bi messengers?

Janosky:


Do you share your biological Father's nature?

Do you the son, have authority over your biological father?
Is your biological father your son?

Bros, prove say you get SENSE joor

I and my father are humans, my father is a true human and I am also a true human.

Jozzy4:


It's a biblical fact. Your rants have no basis

He make his angels Spirits.

God Himself is Spirit.

Anyone born of Spirit, is Spirit too .

so if you have the nature of a Human being does that not make you a human being?
If Jehovah has same nature with Angels what does that make him? Clown

livingchrist:
so if you have the nature of a Human being does that not make you a human being?
If Jehovah has same nature with Angels what does that make him? Clown

Let's be honest, that guy has seen it, but ego won't allow him accept defeat.

Blabbermouth:

The form. By implication of the form, it influences the nature too.

When you are born by the Spirit, you as man now have this spirit that is alive unto God.

Because you now have the Spirit of Christ abiding in you which is the Spirit of God's nature (who he is), you are changed in out in your nature, from a carnal man (subjected to the power of death) to a spiritual man ( A slave of God's own nature). [The implication on the nature]

I expect you would have insist they DEFINE what FORM or NATURE means. You never can tell what will come up.

livingchrist:
you nor get sense, na only Angels bi messengers?

I caught a scam rushing to hide behind Angel are messengers when he got his spinal cord broken.

This same Janosky affirmed that he is an angel (messenger) right now, I mean on earth like this.

Yet someone testified somewhere - He make his angels messengers spirits.

Since Janosky is a messenger and also an angel, Janosky is A spirit (just like other angelic creatures) on earth, like right now.

So LivingChrist, you are actually not talking to a man, but a pure spirit. Respect him o!

DappaD:


So by nature, both Jehovah God and his faithful angels are spirits[John 4:24, Ps 104:4]
For your question, even the demons are powerful SPIRIT forces[Ephesians 6:12]
Go figure.

demons are spirits but do they possess same nature as Jehovah?

Blabbermouth:

I caught a scam rushing to hide behind Angel are messengers when he got his spinal cord broken.

This same Janosky affirmed that he is an angel (messenger) right now, I mean on earth like this.

Yet someone testified somewhere - He make his angels messengers spirits.

Since Janosky is a messenger and also an angel, Janosky is A spirit (just like other angelic creatures) on earth, like right now.

So LivingChrist, you are actually not talking to a man, but a pure spirit. Respect him o!

hahahaha, mr spirit janosky