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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 9:50am On Nov 16, 2020
livingchrist:
clown, from your write up, you said Angels has the same basic make up of the true God that also make them true gods,
So how many true gods do you have?

The better you know that word 'God' is a title for a supreme being the better for you!
Satan is called the god of this system of things
Is Satan a God of this system of things by nature or the authority he has on them?


'Even though we have so-called gods either in heaven or earth, but to the (true Christains) . we have just one 'true God' named 'Jehovah' with the most superior authority!

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 9:53am On Nov 16, 2020
livingchrist:
Is Jehovah a true God by his nature or by position?
Where did Jehovah get his poison from?

If Buhari is a president by nature, then all Nigerians would have been President!

Of course, it's by the authority he has!
Dig?

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 9:57am On Nov 16, 2020
achorladey:


You are all, in fact, sons of God through your faith in Christ Jesus.


28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor freeman, there is neither male nor female, for you are all one in union with Christ Jesus
So how come some are still sons of human or as you put it human sons grin grin
I bet you are trying to COIN it or something like that grin grin grin
However, to all who did receive him, he gave authority to become God’s children, because they were exercising faith in his name. 13 And they were born, not from blood or from a fleshly will or from man’s will, but from God grin grin grin

Are you acting daft on purpose or that's the real you?

Human 'Sons of God'
Spirit 'Sons of God'

O tun goof

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 11:36am On Nov 16, 2020
Barristter07, the time for unfruitful discussion is over.
You can rest in peace.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 11:46am On Nov 16, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus fed thousands through the hands of his Apostles Sir! Mark 8:6
You can feed me, it doesn't make you a mediator.

So both physically and spiritually the Apostles serve as mediators to feed the sheep! John 21:15-17
There is nothing like "mediators to feed the sheep". "You want to see God?No other way, come to me!" That's a mediator. "You want to talk to God? No other way, tell me what you want to say, I will relate to him and Give you feedback" That's a mediator.
Christ confirmed himself as mediator between us and God. There was nothing like, if you want to go to Christ, you must pass through PETER.

When it comes to worship all of us (including Jesus himself) must bow to the same rules as we all worship the same father and God {John 20:17} but some are to teach (spiritually feed) the others.
Teachers are not mediators. You can teach me something, 97% right and 3% error. I don't eat all you feed me, I eat all the Lord says I eat as you feed me.

The work Jesus did between us and God is convey life saving information, that is the same thing the Apostles are doing but neither Jesus nor the Apostles should be worshipped that's what Paul is saying!
No. They weren't worshipping Paul or Apollos!
Much more like saying, We are Paulians, the only true Christians. We are Appolians, the Paulians are not as enlightened as we are, we are the real Christians.
A kingdom ought not to be divided, for it can not stand well. The division has made the church at large to be easily rediculed and belittled.

No Christ Witness or Christianity pioneer pushed for anything like denomination, it wasn't even in mind.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 12:04pm On Nov 16, 2020
Barristter07:

Am very focused , and I won't allow any other subjects to detail the thread. This above post is the turning point that reveal Blabbermouth hypocrisy .
Honestly, I'm not in the mood or have enough time to continue this.

He admitted the Expression " Is spirit " at John 3:6 and John 4:24 were revealing the Form of those involved. both must rhyme

God is not a man having a spirit. He is a pure Spirit , blabbermouth knows the risk of ascribing the same to those of born of spirit , so he wrote the underlined Jargons , Even inserting Slave of God's nature. Something not scriptural. I can ask him to provide a single scripture that said those of born of spirit will be slave of God's nature and he won't find it. On this premise, he pride himself , not knowing his entire twist was dead on arrival.
I should provide a single scripture that those born of spirit will be slave of God's nature?
I will skip. You didn't even understand the sentence in the first place. Next time, say - Blabbermouth, I'm confused, what do you mean by so so so statement?

God is not a man having a spirit?
Your confusion has been a stumbling block for you.
The Deity is a being in a unique class on his own. A spirit Man, A spirit Deity.
All flesh are not the same, all spirit are not the same.

The proper explanation is that both must be rhyme , God is Spirit means he is pure Spirit, likewise when Blabbermouth mouth said it influence nature, God himself declare he will give them his very own Divine nature. Scriptural fact .
Should I pay you back in your coin? You are all over claiming I should give you a word-for-word scripture for a statement, should I request that from you?

Tell me where God said He will give them (Who do you refer to as them?) his own divine nature. Then tell me what God meant by Divine nature.

I don't want another round of laughing at your errors, so let me chip this;
Holiness, is it God's nature?

So the promise is for them to have the very nature and form of God.
Therefore becoming Deities themselves.
Again, all flesh are not the same. All spirit are not the same.
Almighty is not what make God special, if it was just some position, don't be too happy, someone might unseat Him one day.
When will you learn that Jehovah as a being is in a class of His own?

Like I said blabbermouth explanation and twist at underlined are totally unscriptural neither does it address the point . It was on this premise that I asked that the thread be closed.

Unscriptural?
There is nothing as unscriptural as 72,000,144,000 Gods/Deity/Divinity with just one among them being president.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:48pm On Nov 16, 2020
Blabbermouth:

You can feed me, it doesn't make you a mediator.
God spoke to Moses while Moses speaks to the Israelites, of course Moses as an imperfect man made mistakes but he remains the mediator of the covenant between God and the Israelites! Exodus 33:11; Numbers 12:8

There is nothing like "mediators to feed the sheep". "You want to see God?No other way, come to me!" That's a mediator. "You want to talk to God? No other way, tell me what you want to say, I will relate to him and Give you feedback" That's a mediator.
Christ confirmed himself as mediator between us and God. There was nothing like, if you want to go to Christ, you must pass through PETER.
Naaaaaaaaaaaaa! "I'm the way the truth and the life" doesn't mean you should talk to Jesus in prayer!
It simply means "if you want to know how you can approach my father (God), i'll teach you because he's my father and i'm his favourite son"
That's the difference between JWs and all other religions. Jehovah's Witnesses don't pray to Jesus, we make our supplications known directly to JEHOVAH. But we must do so following all the guidelines or counseling from Jesus

Teachers are not mediators. You can teach me something, 97% right and 3% error. I don't eat all you feed me, I eat all the Lord says I eat as you feed me.
Jesus said "whatever you bind or loose on earth will happen just so in heaven" {Matthew 16:19} the Apostles forgot what Jesus taught them saying "you will always have the poor with you" {Mark 14:7} they wanted to make all members equal materially speaking by selling what they had and sharing it equally {Act 4:32-35} that was a wrong step! Jesus didn't step in to correct them not until the congregation lost a couple, that was the end of that arrangement!
But take not that it was God's holy spirit that killed Ananiah and Saphirras for lying when they supposed to act in line with what the whole assembly agreed upon. So it's wrong to worship where you are not 100% in compliance with the teachings, it's better find another group!

No. They weren't worshipping Paul or Apollos!
Much more like saying, We are Paulians, the only true Christians. We are Appolians, the Paulians are not as enlightened as we are, we are the real Christians.
A kingdom ought not to be divided, for it can not stand well. The division has made the church at large to be easily rediculed and belittled.
Of course that's what it means! When you're singling a teacher out as the best or your favorite amongst the rest it's tantamount to worship. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't know where the worshipers of God gathers! Matthew 24:27-28

No Christ Witness or Christianity pioneer pushed for anything like denomination, it wasn't even in mind.
Jesus said there will be false teachers {Matthew 24:11} so we must distinguish the true teachers from false otherwise what you're saying is "don't mind Jesus, you can worship anywhere that Jesus' name is mentioned" of course you should know better than that! Matthew 7:21-23

Thanks and God bless you! smiley
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 2:11pm On Nov 16, 2020
Blabbermouth:

Honestly, I'm not in the mood or have enough time to continue this.

I should provide a single scripture that those born of spirit will be slave of God's nature?
I will skip. You didn't even understand the sentence in the first place. Next time, say - Blabbermouth, I'm confused, what do you mean by so so so statement?

Because you are a Liar, no such Statement exist in scripture.


God is not a man having a spirit?
Your confusion has been a stumbling block for you.
The Deity is a being in a unique class on his own. A spirit Man, A spirit Deity.
All flesh are not the same, all spirit are not the same.

God is a Spirit not a man . He doesn't have flesh and bones. Don't be stupid. , You are implying that the Father have Flesh or what ? Your case is critical .





Should I pay you back in your coin? You are all over claiming I should give you a word-for-word scripture for a statement, should I request that from you?

Tell me where God said He will give them (Who do you refer to as them?) his own divine nature. Then tell me what God meant by Divine nature.

2Pet 1:4 is still in your Bible , isn't it ? You saw Divine nature promise there, don't you ?


I don't want another round of laughing at your errors, so let me chip this;
Holiness, is it God's nature?

Sharers of the Divine Nature, He declared them Holy, They will even be immortal, and exist in his Spirit form. That prove Jesus is a Spirit person too, or else the statement like the heavenly one, so too are those who are heavenly will be false . If they don't share the same form .



Therefore becoming Deities themselves.
Is this your problem ?
Is it not written in your Bible that Ye are God's ?


Again, all flesh are not the same. All spirit are not the same.
Almighty is not what make God special, if it was just some position, don't be too happy, someone might unseat Him one day.
When will you learn that Jehovah as a being is in a class of His own?


Unscriptural?
There is nothing as unscriptural as 72,000,144,000 Gods/Deity/Divinity with just one among them being president.
Jehovah said and promise he will share his very own Divine nature with his adopted Spirit sons. But you went ahead and lie on his head saying slave divine nature.

If you want to know Jehovah's class , Read Romans 11:35


“Who has ever given to God,
that God should repay them?”


Nobody gave JEHOVAH anything, but he Gives others as he chooses and there is nothing blabbermouth in all his lies can do about it. That's CLASS. Even Jesus receive from him all he had.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 2:17pm On Nov 16, 2020
Jozzy4:


God promises anyone born of spirit is very own Divine nature and Spirit form . John 3:6 , 1Pet 1:4 you can cry now.
grin
According to jws Jehovah is an angel.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 2:19pm On Nov 16, 2020
Janosky:

Mr LIENUS the Second

John 7:16. 12:49-50, Jesus na Angel,he go Message & obey command.

Bros, prove say you get SENSE..
Who give Jehovah command to obey?
Where & when Jehovah go message for anybody?


Mr LIENUS
grin cheesy cheesy grin
Nah you talk am say Jehovah and Angels get the same nature.
Dondi
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 2:20pm On Nov 16, 2020
Janosky:


Do you share your biological Father's nature?

Do you the son, have authority over your biological father?
Is your biological father your son?

Bros, prove say you get SENSE joor cheesy grin cheesy grin
authority and nature are not the same.
Nature is what something is, authority is the right to do something.
A son can be a president and be greater than his father in authority but both of them has same nature as humans.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 2:22pm On Nov 16, 2020
livingchrist:
authority and nature are not the same.
Nature is what something is, authority is the right to do something.
A son can be a president and be greater than his father in authority but both of them has same nature as humans.

If you have a working sense, you should as well realize angels, and JEHOVAH has same nature as Spirit. This is the same nature promised those born of spirit . What is born of spirit, is Spirit , not human nature like you are lying about on the thread. I was expecting you to even explain the phrase " is spirit " . But you dissapered, typical

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 2:22pm On Nov 16, 2020
Jozzy4:


It's a biblical fact. Your rants have no basis

He make his angels Spirits.

God Himself is Spirit.

Anyone born of Spirit, is Spirit too .


grin bro nah you talk am,
Angel and Jehovah get the same nature
So Jehovah has seevant's nature?
Clown
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 2:24pm On Nov 16, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
Interpretation is what we need Sir not arguments, i'm only telling you the interpretation that caught my attention and convincing to me, you too can present yours, don't agitate, if it's convincing you'll get individuals who will accept it.
So it's not a matter of insults or abuses, just tell people what you understand with those sacred writings and present the group practicing it as you explained that's all! smiley




lie lie, you keep spilling dung all over this thread
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 2:25pm On Nov 16, 2020
Blabbermouth:

Let's be honest, that guy has seen it, but ego won't allow him accept defeat.
I tell you, all of them has suddenly being on the defensive.
grin
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 2:26pm On Nov 16, 2020
DappaD:


The gaps in your understanding lies within the meaning of the word “nature”.
what is nature? Oga
If you posses the nature of a lion what does that make you, A clown?
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 2:29pm On Nov 16, 2020
livingchrist:
what is nature? Oga
If you posses the nature of a lion what does that make you, A clown?

Divine nature is whose nature ? Sense is far from you . God in his divine nature is a Spirit being. That's the hope held out for those born of spirit. And that expose Jesus current nature.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 2:34pm On Nov 16, 2020
haddeylium:


The better you know that word 'God' is a title for a supreme being the better for you!
Satan is called the god of this system of things
Is Satan a God of this system of things by nature or the authority he has on them?


'Even though we have so-called gods either in heaven or earth, but to the (true Christains) . we have just one 'true God' named 'Jehovah' with the most superior authority!
clown, so God is just a title?

So you mean Jehovah is not really a God but only bears that title like others?

How come paul said the gods of the heather are by nature no gods?

Galatians 4:8
Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 2:39pm On Nov 16, 2020
Blabbermouth:
Barristter07, the time for unfruitful discussion is over.
You can rest in peace.

It would be unfruitful since you are being exposed for the liar you are . John 3:6 didn't say what is born is spirit is a spiritual man . Stop lying . Neither does the Bible said they will be slave of God's nature. All this are frauds from blabbermouth.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 2:50pm On Nov 16, 2020
livingchrist:
grin bro nah you talk am,
Angel and Jehovah get the same nature
So Jehovah has servant's nature?
Clown

Bros, prove say you get SENSE ,
John 11:27, Romans 8:3, Phil 2:8, did your Bible say Jehovah has a servant's nature?

(1) Jehovah is a servant to who ?

(2) What is the name of the person who gives Jehovah command that Jehovah obeyed?


Mr LIENUS
cheesy cheesy grin grin
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by rottennaija(m): 2:59pm On Nov 16, 2020
Jozzy4:


One hope , the hope of everlasting life . But two ressurection . Open your senses

Some enjoy this hope as spirit sons (John 3:6, 1Pet 1:4) , others as human sons (Revelation 21:3,4)

Meanwhile the focus of this thread is on the spirit sons, as their nature tells us what body Jesus have after ressurection.

Please my enlightened Scholar Jozzy4, tell me what were the facts, what were all the facts as seen below in this watchtower publication?



Emusan
achorladey

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 3:08pm On Nov 16, 2020
livingchrist:
authority and nature are not the same.
Nature is what something is, authority is the right to do something.
A son can be a president and be greater than his father in authority but both of them has same nature as humans.
Likewise, Jesus Christ and angels has the same nature/form of spirits as his God and Father.

If you still get SENSE,
John 20:17, 1 Cor 15:27. 11:3, is Jesus Christ the President of his God and Father?

grin cheesy cheesy grin.

Read & the Screenshots and receive SENSE.
G3444: form=shape, appearance. Figuratively nature.

Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 3:11pm On Nov 16, 2020
grin Jehovah witness org teaches that the name 'Jehovah' means he causes to become

Now, in another publication they stated that the ability for Jehovah to become anything he want fo do is a reflection of his own nature grin

But again they say ,Angels has same nature with Jehovah, which means Angels are Jehovah.

Cc blabbermouth, Emusan, anchorladey, rottennaija

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 3:14pm On Nov 16, 2020
Barristter07:


It would be unfruitful since you are being exposed for the liar you are . John 3:6 didn't say what is born is spirit is a spiritual man . Stop lying . Neither does the Bible said they will slave of God's nature. All this are frauds from blabbermouth.
wait, wait wait grin I thought you guys said spiritual body means Spirit body?
cheesy cheesy grin cheesy shocked what a fraud!
So spiritual does not mean Spirit again? Wayo barrister grin
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 3:15pm On Nov 16, 2020
Janosky:


Bros, prove say you get SENSE ,
John 11:27, Romans 8:3, Phil 2:8, did your Bible say Jehovah has a servant's nature?

(1) Jehovah is a servant to who ?

(2) What is the name of the person who gives Jehovah command that Jehovah obeyed?


Mr LIENUS
cheesy cheesy grin grin
lie lie, no bi unah say Jehovah and Angel get same nature, ode
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by achorladey: 3:17pm On Nov 16, 2020
rottennaija:


Please my enlightened Scholar Jozzy4, tell me what were the facts, what were all the facts as seen below in this watchtower publication?



Emusan
achorladey

grin grin grin to that publication. The part you coloured na strong thing.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:21pm On Nov 16, 2020
Present what you have and leave the rest for your listeners to discern {Matthew 10:11-13} that's what JWs do.
It's not by force you believe what we teach just know that if you're not one of us certainly we are not worshipping the same God!
So worship your own God and fish for interested individuals who will accept your God, that's what Jesus laid down, no wahala! smiley



livingchrist:
lie lie, you keep spilling dung all over this thread

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by achorladey: 3:26pm On Nov 16, 2020
Jozzy4:


Yeah you are dull. Everything you wrote are biblical facts.


Simple question

How is it same hope?

Answer by the BRIGHT one: Everything you wrote are biblical facts grin grin grin

You will still comeback and say the ONE HOPE is the HOPE of everlasting LIFE grin grin
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by DappaD: 3:29pm On Nov 16, 2020
livingchrist:
what is nature? Oga
If you posses the nature of a lion what does that make you, A clown?

Your answer is located at Ecclesiastes 3:20-21.
Is the lion flesh or not?
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 3:29pm On Nov 16, 2020
Barristter07:


Divine nature is whose nature ? Sense is far from you . God in his divine nature is a Spirit being. That's the hope held out for those born of spirit. And that expose Jesus current nature.
Wayo barrister, according to your organisation God's nature goes beyond just being a spirit.

Lie lie barrister,
All christian are born of Spirit so who are those not born of Spirit? grin


1 John 5:1
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.


John 4:24
[b]God is a Spirit:[/] and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

cheesy
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 3:30pm On Nov 16, 2020
DappaD:


Your answer is located at Ecclesiastes 3:20-21.
Is the lion flesh or not?
grin grin grin grin grin shocked grin shocked cheesy grin cheesy cheesy grin
Yes? grin so a lion has the nature of a human being right? grin
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 3:33pm On Nov 16, 2020
livingchrist:
wait, wait wait grin I thought you guys said spiritual body means Spirit body?
cheesy cheesy grin cheesy shocked what a fraud!
So spiritual does not mean Spirit again? Wayo barrister grin

God the Father is a Spiritual man, How does it sound ? If this doesn't help you, nothing else might help

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