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achorladey:
Simple question.......

So how come some are still sons of human or as you put it human sons?
When what you highlighted stated

However, to all who did receive him, he gave authority to become God’s children, because they were exercising faith in his name. 13 And they were born, not from blood or from a fleshly will or from man’s will, but from God

Na everything Jehovah witness go dey teach you..
you don't merit it sincerely!

Human's son is different from 'Human son'

The latter means 'Fleshy/physical (with flesh and blood) Son

At all, you learnt something today

Barristter07:

It would be unfruitful since you are being exposed for the liar you are . John 3:6 didn't say what is born is spirit is a spiritual man . Stop lying . Neither does the Bible said they will be slave of God's nature. All this are frauds from blabbermouth.

I'm a liar? No problem. The bible did not say they will be slave of God's nature? No problem.
I see that your comment got a like and a share. It would be of help because the person will need to assist you here;

1. That which is born of Spirit is spirit
Barrister: It means they will become A spirit just like the angelic creatures

2. God is Spirit
Barrister: It means God is A spirit just like the angelic creatures

3. the words that I speak unto you, they (the words) are spirit, and they are life.
Blabbermouth: Barristter07 sir, what say ye? If we are to follow your trend of interpretation, that means every single word of Christ on earth is A spirit on its own just like the angelic creatures
Now let's take the word of Christ in John 3 for example
"Verily" - is A Spirit (1)
"Verily" - is another Spirit (2)
"i" - another Spirit (3)
"say" - another spirit (4)
"unto" - another sprit. (5)
"thee" - another spirit. (6)
ati be be lo.
You sabi how many Spirit you don create with this your erroneous interpretation?

Cc: Jozzy4, your single standard expertise is needed here.

Jozzy4:
God is spirit does not mean God is a Spiritual man na , so livingchrist had to run, but the hypocrite want anyone born of spirit is spirit to mean Spiritual man . Double standard

Your brother just got another bomb shoved in his ass.
Double standards right? Let me see how you will maintain your single standard.

livingchrist:
Jehovah witness org teaches that the name 'Jehovah' means he causes to become

Now, in another publication they stated that the ability for Jehovah to become anything he want fo do is a reflection of his own nature

But again they say ,Angels has same nature with Jehovah, which means Angels are Jehovah.

Cc blabbermouth

They will tell you "You can't understand our publications".
Many of them go out of their teachings to protect ego, they have ceased to amaze me.

livingchrist:
lie, lie satan is a false god because he is no God by nature, he is an impostor!

Check for the meaning of 'Almighty' and come back .

Quick question!
Is Jesus 'King of king', Lord of Lord by nature or by authority?

Blabbermouth:
They will tell you "You can't understand our publications".
Many of them go out of their teachings to protect ego, they have ceased to amaze me.

na wa, I thought they had one thought! So much for wayo one thought process see how they are contradicting themslves

haddeylium:
Don't take it to heart oo ... couldn't find more better word to label your sillyness

'Quote where he said 'Sons of human'

Human son of God and Spirit son of God is what he wrote!
But you keep parading yourself as usual.
Rest!

haddeylium: Don't take it to heart

Achorladey: Na me dey place tag. Na you go run out of TAGS and LABELS. I didn't send you message of TAGS.

haddeylium: couldn't find more better word to label your sillyness.

Achorladey: I pray the ability to keep using TAGS won't finish. Godspeed to you


haddeylium: 'Quote where he said 'Sons of human'

Achorladey: even the question I raised still carry it the way it was coined HUMAN SONS

haddeylium: Human son of God and Spirit son of God is what he wrote!

So how come some are still sons of human or as you put it human sons

Human sons of God, Human sons, the common denominator is HUMAN SONS is somewhere lurking. The reason for the question.

haddeylium: But you keep parading yourself as usual.

Achorladey: You dey vex? bah! or na your parade?

haddeylium: Rest

Achorladey: I am not agitating Oga haddeylium

achorladey:
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haddeylium: 'Quote where he said 'Sons of human'
Achorladey: even the question I raised carried still carry it the way it was coined HUMAN SONS
haddeylium: Human son of God and Spirit son of God is what he wrote!
So how come some are still sons of human or as you put it human sons
Human sons of God, Human sons the common denominator is HUMAN is somewhere lurking. The reason for the question.

Pls, pass the phone to someone that understand English and quit tagging me multiple times
peace¡

Barristter07:
Because you are a Liar, no such Statement exist in scripture.

That's an exegesis, not a verbatim scripture.

God is a Spirit not a man . He doesn't have flesh and bones. Don't be stupid. , You are implying that the Father have Flesh or what ? Your case is critical .

Okay, I know the truth can make someone go nuts but not silly.
Is Deity the same as Man?
Why do you keep screaming flesh and bones?

2Pet 1:4 is still in your Bible , isn't it ? You saw Divine nature promise there, don't you ?

Catch this, the word "nature" many times imply WHO YOU ARE. Holy, righteous, and the likes. In that scripture, that is what it means.

Sharers of the Divine Nature, He declared them Holy, They will even be immortal, and exist in his Spirit form. That prove Jesus is a Spirit person too, or else the statement like the heavenly one, so too are those who are heavenly will be false . If they don't share the same form .

I don't think you can grab it again this year, maybe you should try again in 2021.

Is this your problem ?
Is it not written in your Bible that Ye are God's ?
Jehovah said and promise he will share his very own Divine nature with his adopted Spirit sons. But you went ahead and lie on his head saying slave divine nature.

I can say - God is a slave of His nature.
Ask me why?
The bible said - It is IMPOSSIBLE for God to lie. Lying is something we can easily do as a man, our nature permits it, yet the widely revered OMNIPOTENT GOD cannot lie!
Do you now understand my exegesis?

If you want to know Jehovah's class , Read Romans 11:35

“Who has ever given to God,
that God should repay them?”

So?

Nobody gave JEHOVAH anything, but he Gives others as he chooses and there is nothing blabbermouth in all his lies can do about it. That's CLASS. Even Jesus receive from him all he had.

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haddeylium:
Na everything Jehovah witness go dey teach you..
you don't merit it sincerely!

Human's son is different from 'Human son'

The latter means 'Fleshy/physical (with flesh and blood) Son

At all, you learnt something today

haddeylium: Na everything Jehovah witness go dey teach you

Achorladey: JWs get time to teach DESPICABLE APOSTATES or DEBASED APOSTATES

haddeylium: you don't merit it sincerely!

Achorladey: I didn't ask you to teach me, I asked a question. You can either respond or look away. I collect registration form from your school to gain admission and teach me?


haddeylium: Human's son is different from 'Human son'

Achorladey: English class have started be serious Achorladey

Teacher haddeylium: The latter means 'Fleshy/physical (with flesh and blood) Son

Student Achorladey: Teacher haddeylium, I have a question. What about the FORMER?

haddeylium: At all, you learnt today.

Achorladey: Today never end

haddeylium:
Check for the meaning of 'Almighty' and come back .

Quick question!
Is Jesus 'King of king', Lord of Lord by nature or by authority?

the meaning of Almighty is not what is at stake here, the question is where does God's authority come from, is from external or internal(his nature).

Jesus authority is from his nature, for example Jesus authority to judge the humans is from the fact that his is a man.

John 5:27
And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.

This is an example of Jesus authority coming from his nature.


Authority does not just appear from no where it is either by nature or from others

The question you all failed to ask yourself is where does Jehovah's Almightiness comes from? Is it from his nature or from others

haddeylium:
Pls, pass the phone to someone that understand English and quit tagging me multiple times
peace¡

You will go back to the self imposed letter of HIBERNATION given by the GB representative-NAIRALAND branch.

Blabbermouth:
They will tell you "You can't understand our publications".
Many of them go out of their teachings to protect ego, they have ceased to amaze me.

Una never see anything person wey understand the work of MINISTRY OF TRUTH for the many department of JWs ORGANIZATION na him go sabi am well well.

For the sake of honesthearted following this thread!

The Hebrew word ruʹach translated to Spirit in English have a root meaning of 'something invisible' but it's use in a [/b]polysemant way in it's Uses

Usage
@Wind (the invisibility force of air in motion)
@Spirit person (All spirit person are invisible in their nature)
@Active life force (Breathe of life)
@God's active force (Holy Spirit) and more
@force that issues from a person’s figurative heart and that made in do something in certain way and more

The Usage of these words are different

This is a flag for anyone mixing Nuru with Sapa

livingchrist:
the meaning of Almighty is not what is at stake here, the question is where does God's authority come from, is from external or internal(his nature).
Jesus authority is from his nature, for example Jesus authority to judge the humans is from the fact that his is a man.
John 5:27
And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
This is an example of Jesus authority coming from his nature.
Authority does not just appear from no where it is either by nature or from others

Can Jesus 'the Son of Man' Judge the world without being given Authority?


Another reason that quoting scripture is one thing, Understanding is another

Use your brain for once nah!
Paul is a Jew and a Christian, that's what the Jews always claim within themselves.
But when the Babylonians enslaved them, they asked them to call on that their God whom they've always claim to be the one and only God! Psalms 137:1-3
When the Romans dominated the Israelites they mocked them by asking the Jews to call upon that their only God to come and deliver them from Romans.
Guy, that's what the worshipers of each God always say but the truth is there are many powerful spirits out there claiming God and there are billions worshipping them.
It's the name of your own God that distinguish yours from the others {Micah 4:5} whether you claim their God exist or not they will continue to worship their God!
So stick to your own, tell people about his name {John 17:6,26} and present those worshipping your own God {Matthew 5:13-16; 7:16-18; John 13:34-35; 17:20-23} let observers see the difference in the way and manner your God is able to make LOVE, JOY and PEACE reign in your midst, that's what can prove that you truly know the God of Israel! Galatians 5:22-23
All these arguments about Jesus when there is no evidence to prove the existence of Jesus who promised to be in the midst of his followers is worthless {Matthew 18:20} if you can't point to any GROUP amongst whom we can observe the attributes of God's holy spirit, then you're making Jesus a myth!

livingchrist:
clown, so God is just a title?

So you mean Jehovah is not really a God but only bears that title like others?

How come paul said the gods of the heather are by nature no gods?

Galatians 4:8
Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.

DappaD:
Honestly I see no reason why a debased apostate would be engaging in a discussion of Biblical matters. Like all them John cedars and jwfacts whom this guy and rottenn.aija always quote have renounced belief in God and the Bible. So what's the reason behind these wannabe NL apostates quoting scriptures if their leaders have denounced the Bible as nonsense?

It's just Blabbermouth and livingchrist I'm pitying. This man is legit using you guys for damage control and it's like y'all don't realise because you're both caught in the crossfire.

Surely if he and his partner rotten.naija are fuelling the ego of the unsuspecting public [such as Blabbermouth, livingchrist and their NL cohorts] you'll know there's nothing good to come out of it!

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There are many spirits claiming Jesus out there Sir {Matthew 7:21-23} and it's by observing what is happening in the midst of the worshipers that intelligent persons can be sure that the spirit they gathered to worship is not Jesus but a demon! Matthew 18:20

So think Sir, the real Jesus is God's only begotten SON, he is now a powerful spirit king and his subjects have LOVE {John 13:34-35} JOY {Luke 10:17} and PEACE {John 14:27} reigning in their midst!

if you can't point to any GROUP where God's' attributes that Jesus reflects can be noticed as a king in the midst of his subjects then you don't really know Jesus Sir!

livingchrist:
I dont point people to group but to Jesus.

rottennaija:
[s]Please my enlightened Scholar Jozzy4, tell me what were the facts, what were all the facts as seen below in this watchtower publication?



Emusan
achorladey[/s]

Matthew 5:5, did Jesus Christ teach you that spirits will inherit the earth?

John 16:16-18, did the disciples understand everything Jesus taught them?

Bros, Consign your post to the dustbin.

Janosky:
Matthew 5:5, did Jesus Christ teach you that spirits will inherit the earth?

John 16:16-18, did the disciples understand everything Jesus taught them?

Bros, Consign your post to the dustbin.

Bros, Consign your post to the dustbin.

In the course of trying to CONSIGN this one to dustbin.

Pray he doesn't PICK another up from the DUSTBIN to CONSIGN you as well

But my mind tells me this particular prayer won't be answered.

livingchrist:
Jehovah witness org teaches that the name 'Jehovah' means he causes to become

Now, in another publication they stated that the ability for Jehovah to become anything he want fo do is a reflection of his own nature

But again they say ,Angels has same nature with Jehovah, which means Angels are Jehovah.

Cc blabbermouth, Emusan, anchorladey, rottennaija

Bros, STOP your gibberish


Bros, angels are not Jehovah their God.

Jehovah is Almighty & Supreme , the God of myriads of loyal angels in heaven.

Man and Lion are flesh by nature.
Can you not spot the differences between Man and Lion?
Bros, since you can't spot the difference, why you no roam the forest with Lions & wild animals?

Bros, wey your SENSE ?

livingchrist:
na wa, I thought they had one thought! So much for wayo one thought process see how they are contradicting themslves

Ask Blabbermouth if he swallowed your fictitious claim " Angels are Jehovah" .

Bros, Your somersaults full this thread

livingchrist:
so Jehovah is an angel
Chai!

Man and Lion is flesh by nature.
But are you so daft, you can't spot their differences?
For once, Bros reason with your brain.

Janosky:
Bros, STOP your gibberish


Bros, angels are not Jehovah their God.

Jehovah is Almighty & Supreme , the God of myriads of loyal angels in heaven.

Man and Lion are flesh by nature.
Can you not spot the differences between Man and Lion?
Bros, since you can't spot the difference, why you no roam the forest with Lions & wild animals?

Bros, wey your SENSE ?

Janosky, if thou art been here two days ago, your JW brothers won't have become a laughing stock.

It seems you are well aware that all flesh is not the same and all spirit is not the same.

achorladey:
That is to angels too are HE CAUSES TO BECOME WHAT THEY WANT TO BECOME

Bros , which angel is Almighty?

Janosky:
Ask Blabbermouth if he swallowed your fictitious claim " Angels are Jehovah".

I don't swallow that, neither do LivingChrist.
He said that when your brothers keep peddling the error that angels are the same in everything as Jehovah, except some scepter of Authority that Jehovah is holding.

Bros, Your somersaults full this thread

He wasn't sommersaulting, he was trolling your brothers' somersault all around the thread.

Janosky:
Bros , which angel is Almighty?

Ask haddeylium. He has expertise on all things ANGELS

Me I be MUMU and OPONU according to your brothers sorry friends ( whatever the case might be).

Blabbermouth:
Janosky, if thou art been here two days ago, your JW brothers won't have become a laughing stock.

It seems you are well aware that all flesh is not the same and all spirit is not the same.

1 Corinthians15:39..

Bros , if I'm correct, the proper understanding of Phillipians 2:6 " form/nature of God" is the issue of contention on this thread..

Bros ,no be so ?

Janosky:
1 Corinthians15:39....
Bros , if I'm correct, the proper understanding of Phillipians 2:6 " form/nature of God" is the issue of contention on this thread..

Bros ,no be so ?

Not really. You missed the fireworks.
But you can go ahead and explain Philippians 2:6, it has a lot to do with the discussion.

Blabbermouth:
I don't swallow that, neither do LivingChrist.
He said that when your brothers keep peddling the error that angels are the same in everything as Jehovah, except some scepter of Authority that Jehovah is holding.

He wasn't sommersaulting, he was trolling your brothers' somersault all around the thread.

I have not read all comment here, the Bible says in heaven angels are spirits, just as Jehovah God is Spirit.

But the differences between Jehovah God and angels is like the gulf between day and night.

If my brothers are saying something different.
Please, can I see your proof ?

We should get this fact clear....
In Philippians 2:6-7, Mark16:12, Greek 3444 FORM means shape, Outward appearance. Figuratively nature.
A child has the human form of his parents,does he have the nature of his parents?

Man and Lion are fleshly in nature.
But,we can spot the differences between them.
Likewise, spirits in heaven, there are obvious differences too.
Levels dey for everything ooo


Therefore, in heaven angels, Jesus Christ and the born again co-rulers are spirits, just as God is Spirit.


Jehovah made them spirits.
None of them is Almighty, Only Jehovah is Almighty.

haddeylium:
Can Jesus 'the Son of Man' Judge the world without being given Authority?


Another reason that quoting scripture is one thing, Understanding is another

the fact Jesus was given authority because He is the son of man he doesnt need to be given authority as God but because he was a man,
Jesus was given authority to Judge because of his human nature.
So who have Jehovah authority? os it dappa or max, or janosky or barrister or your gb.

Authority comes from somewhere, either from nature or others,
Get sense

Hide your head in shame

MaxInDHouse:
Use your brain for once nah!
Paul is a Jew and a Christian, that's what the Jews always claim within themselves.
But when the Babylonians enslaved them, they asked them to call on that their God whom they've always claim to be the one and only God! Psalms 137:1-3
When the Romans dominated the Israelites they mocked them by asking the Jews to call upon that their only God to come and deliver them from Romans.
Guy, that's what the worshipers of each God always say but the truth is there are many powerful spirits out there claiming God and there are billions worshipping them.
It's the name of your own God that distinguish yours from the others {Micah 4:5} whether you claim their God exist or not they will continue to worship their God!
So stick to your own, tell people about his name {John 17:6,26} and present those worshipping your own God {Matthew 5:13-16; 7:16-18; John 13:34-35; 17:20-23} let observers see the difference in the way and manner your God is able to make LOVE, JOY and PEACE reign in your midst, that's what can prove that you truly know the God of Israel! Galatians 5:22-23
All these arguments about Jesus when there is no evidence to prove the existence of Jesus who promised to be in the midst of his followers is worthless {Matthew 18:20} if you can't point to any GROUP amongst whom we can observe the attributes of God's holy spirit, then you're making Jesus a myth!

so Jehovah is not God by nature so who made Jehovah God?