DappaD:
According to the Bible that Emusan wrote abi?
That means Jesus didn't inherit God's Kingdom? Thereby cancelling John 3:3-6 and 1Corinthians 15:50?
See 1Corinthians 15:42-44, 2Corinthians 5:16, 1Timothy 3:16, 1Peter 3:18 staring at you right in the face.

See wahala
Was I the one who inserted ἀνθρώπων into Revelation 21:3?
It is the original Greek text that will expose all your mischievous lies—either you deal with it or continue throwing your usual tantrums

So in what form was Jesus when he established the new covenant in Luke 22:28-30? Was he a spirit or human?
After his resurrection to heaven, did he appear before God as a spirit or a human? (Hebrews 9:24, 1Peter 3:18)

According to only Emusan
Since the Bible disagrees with your POV, locate the nearest transformer and do the needful.

Your lies have caught up with you finally. Provide evidence that God literally came down in the days of ancient Israel to dwell with them na

That's why 2Corinthians 5:5 and 2Peter 1:4 are there in your Bible for you. They(born again Christians) have received a token i.e. a mark that sets them apart for heavenly life and it is a promise held out to them that if they remain faithful, they'd receive the prize of immortal life.(Hebrews 3:14, 2Peter 1:10, Revelation 2:10)

These are things you can't know unless someone teaches you. Be humble, Emusan.

Couldn't sift through the garbage, sorry.

Unfortunately, livingchrist is not in anyway different from you. You're both emptyheaded–it's not like I'm surprised though.

Why are you dodging the remaining part of the John 3:6?
What will those born of spirit eventually become?
Emusan has agreed that Jesus didn't resurrect to become a spirit creature and that he didn't inherit God's Kingdom! Wow! 1Corinthians 15:50

Locate the scripture in your Bible and read it. I won't spoonfeed you.

Ehnnn nah! That's the only thing churchgoers know! Apart from the rubbish typed above, what else can you share with your neighbour who's seeking Biblical knowledge? Absolutely NOTHING!

Jehovah's Witnesses will continue to lecture you and you'll continue feeling ashamed where ever you encounter us in this world. I can assure you of that.

Barristter07:

It's not erroneous God is invisible and cannot be seen or touched physically . He is SPIRIT

Like the heavenly one, so too are those who are heavenly, that's Jesus too , invisible and not material .

presently not only Jesus words are Spirit, he himself is a Spirit that gives life. Hence the Bible calls him a life giving Spirit.

Blabbermouth:

Are you saying that anything that cannot be touched physically is A spirit?

Barrister: That which is spirit is immaterial
Don't be silly, there is no shortcut for you to take.
The word is immaterial just like your word and my words, are they all Spirits like angelic creatures?

How low do you want to descend down the scale?
So anything that is invisible is a Spirit just like an angelic creature?
Is your invisible thought a Spirit just like an angelic creature?

Why do you keep screaming immaterial,
Is immaterial the same as A spirit?

Come here, are you churning all these from your watchtower publication?
What's with the foolishness of equating immateriality to being A spirit.


Now, the question is - Are Jesus words spirits JUST LIKE THE ANGELIC CREATURES?

Answer that without too much of dilly-dallying. Better still, just give a binary answer - YES/NO

Barristter07:
Emusan Ran away on this thread earlier only to resurface to continue his Gibberish.

If you recall, Emusan said All both Sinners and unbelievers will be Raised as Human beings.

Any it shocking that the same Emusan is fighting those that said Many will ressurect as humans?

Concerning the definition of the spiritual bodies, Emusan quoted Romans 8:11 saying that of unbelievers is not quickened while a Spiritual body is Quickened, a quick check of the word Quickened reveal that it simply means To bring to life. Please how can someone said the bodies of sinners are not quickened, when it come to life?

[s]In short , Emusan keep repeating the garbage that He was applying Spiritual bodies to believers, But the evidence against him says This apply to everyone ressurected.


Is Emusan Deluded ? Yes. He lacks what it takes to handle this topic.


I will keep opening his yansh from previous threads.[/s]

Emusan:


See the deluded being changing mouth now after his lies of Greek has been exposed.



Was I the one who inserted ἀνθρώπων into 1 Tim 5

As the same original Greek text is exposing your lies and delusion.



Is Jesus still the mediator now or not? Liar....

Jesus is in heaven as HUMAN, how many times will I knocked that into your empty skull?



See frustration, you haven't seen anything. The same transformer will locate you soon.



Rev 21:3 God's HOME/RESIDENT is NOW WITH THE PEOPLE.

Definitely, God won't reside with your spirit being people as they will be in hell.



And ALL BELIEVERS are born again, ALL BELIEVERS will receive the prize of immortal life.



Just as you don't know that BELIEVING IN CHRIST AND EVEN IN HIS NAME makes you a BORN AGAIN, as I'm teaching you now.



Or your empty skull couldn't process those points.

I feel your pain.



Don't be ashame to learn, go back to that post and learn something at least it's not from apostate just learn something for once it'll do your brain good.



What BORN OF SPIRIT IS SPIRIT

ALL BELIEVERS are born of spirit.

Says the deluded JWs.



A baby like you needs to be spoonfeed that's what we're doing here, so provide the text from that verse that says Jesus rose as a spirit.



We don't have anything to share with our neighbors yet we have more members more than you who have something to share.

Then whatever you're sharing must be really insignificant and have no value to your neighbors.

Just like I said, since you believe many resurrection will take place then definitely we the churchgoers will be part of one but for you your abode is the everlasting fire since you DON'T BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST EVEN IN HIS NAME.



Says the ignorant that what is sharing profiteth nothing to his neighbor. You can start lecturing your GB first maybe their delusions can be cured.

Barristter07:


The point is clear, Do you even know the human breath is called Spirit for the same reason that it can't be touched or seen ?

Emusan:


Firstly, I've warned you before that you people should stop spamming my mention. are you people cursed?

What is so difficult for you to construct a sentence without inserting my moniker?

I ran away but I'm still on the same thread, does that make sense

There was a time you didn't reply my post on this same thread, should that be count as running away?

Olodo somebody just crying for emotional sake.



I'll keep saying this until you people will get sense.

You people lack simple comprehension.

Both believers and unbelievers will be resurrected as HUMAN that's what resurrection is all about as "SOWED IN NATURAL BODIES and RAISED IN SPIRITUAL BODIES"

it's just a change of name

If your brain is working well you will see how your double standard is playing on you.

The Spirit of God, who raised Jesus from the dead, lives in you. And just as God raised Christ Jesus from the dead, he will give life to your mortal bodies by this same Spirit living within you. NIV

This is the same Romans 8:11 and I could remember that I asked you that time that, DOES THE SPIRIT OF GOD LIVE IN THE UNBELIEVER?

Which you couldn't answer.

When you have something meaningful to say, let me know!

Blabbermouth:

Smiles...I'm always 2 step ahead.
Do you see that part where I added - JUST LIKE THE ANGELIC CREATURES?

Now, I pray you, give me a succinct YES/NO answer.
Barrister, are Jesus words spirits just like the angelic creatures?
I.e.
Verily - is A Spirit
Verily - is A Spirit
I- is a spirit
Say - is another Spirit
Unto - another spirit
You - another spirit

Barristter07:

Angels are called Spirit because their nature is immaterial and invisible to the human eyes.

Is your breath Angelic creatures or is the Bible wrong to call it Spirit ? Spirit simply refer to that which is immaterial and invisible. That's the point you are still learning

haddeylium:
For the sake of honesthearted following this thread!

The Hebrew word ruʹach translated to Spirit in English have a root meaning of 'something invisible' but it's use in a [/b]polysemant way in it's Uses

Usage
@Wind (the invisibility force of air in motion)
@Spirit person (All spirit person are invisible in their nature)
@Active life force (Breathe of life)
@God's active force (Holy Spirit) and more
@force that issues from a person’s figurative heart and that made in do something in certain way and more

The Usage of these words are different

This is a flag for anyone mixing Nuru with Sapa

Blabbermouth:

You still don't know that I'm everywhere you want to go, hahahahahahaha.

1. A spirit(noun) is a class of creatures
2. Spirit means immateriality (According to you)

Angels belong to 1. What I'm asking you is if words belong to 1 too.

YES/NO
[And we can wrap things up]

haddeylium:



I think this thread should be close

All these energy from someone that doesn't know what Spirit is
Just a little research of what Spirit is and we won't be having this conversation

Barristter07:
Seriously , The comedy that made you ran away earlier will resurface.

No objection. It's a promise , undisputed.

And What is Spiritual is the opposite of Natural/physical . I think we are clear. I already quoted some of your deluded posts on this point in the past, u can check for Reference and see how silly u sound.

That means it's from Man's will, a person can decide to be born again, but that John said not from Man's will

John 3:8 u can control the wind ?

The same Greek that made you ran away earlier . Can you recall ? Don't worry the scenes will replay itself.

The earth he has given to the sons of men

According to Genesis 5:2 the name humans was given to people with Flesh and blood. So Christ is still Flesh and blood in heaven ? Focus point 1

Humans are categorized into Male and Female , Does that mean there will be Genders in heaven ? Focus point 2

Some will be raised as Males and others as Females into heaven, how are they going to be like angels , who are Sexless ?? Focus point 3

Jesus retain mark and wounds in your deluded glorified body, since believers body will be patterned after that of Jesus , do you Emusan then admit that people will retain Accident scars, burns , Surgery scars, Tatoos , hunchback and other vices in their glorified body ? focus point 3

Barristter07:

Words doesn't belong to one.

Blabbermouth:

Hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha, this is what I needed.

Extra, in that scripture, was Christ just saying my words are invisible?

Or better still, give a truthful exegesis on John 6:63.

Barristter07:
. Spiritual body is an human body ? I said it. Your case is critical, if Spiritual body is human body, Natural body that was buried isn't Human body ?. So there was no change , it's just a change of name

Humans are Male and Female like I reiterated earlier, Genders in heaven ?

Brain is far far from you, So which Spirit give Life to the mortal bodies of Sinners in ressurection?

Barristter07:


I love where this thread is at the moment.

Barristter07:

Are Christ words visible and touchable ?

Barristter07:


I love where this thread is at the moment.

Barristter07:
[s][i]We have gotten to a point tht what remains is pure comedy on your silly utterances. DappaD is a really nice Guy for taking the time to explain that at the point that Jesus became a Mediator , he was an Human. But your silly disposition and opposition to the truth Keep you dragging the Fine point he shared.[/s]

Since the word " man " appear twice at 1Tim 2:5 , Do you admit both cases are people with Flesh and blood ?

There is one God and Mediator between God and humans ( flesh and blood people ) , an human ( Flesh and blood ) Jesus .

Blabbermouth:

The guy you quoted knows me, at least, he knows me more than you do.

There is no reason he wants the thread closed, he is stylishly telling you to back down.
Once bitten they say, is twice shy.
One blow of truth na 3 die.

Emusan:


When you have something meaningful to say, you will address my point one after the other

.

Emusan:


Stop this childish nonsense!

Didn't you decided not to reply (run away from my) post also at beginning

Ode...this emotion blackmail won't work here.



Oponu...
So BORN OF SPIRIT isn't immediately becoming SPIRIT BEING but have you seen ANYTHING GIVING BIRTH TO THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE NATURE OF WHAT GAVE BIRTH TO IT IMMEDIATELY?

Lemme show you how stupid your logic sounds,

We are BORN OF FLESH but we are not HUMAN IMMEDIATELY until LATER TIME.

Which means you deluded people just fussed BORN OF SPIRIT INTO RESURRECTION.



Go back to the same lecture giving to you people by @living4christ on this.

Of course being BORN AGAIN isn't a man's will John 1:13 says that clearly because no human can do that on His/her own but the point when you confess Christ as your Lord and Savior which means YOU HAVE TOTALLY BELIEVE IN HIM AND HIS NAME The REBIRTH IS AUTOMATICALLY DONE BY GOD.

That's why ALL BELIEVERS are BORN AGAIN.



Just as you ran away earlier too.

Can you recall

Before the fall



The MAN Jesus is the only mediator between God and MEN...focus point 1

I said you running to Greek won't save you.

He called the MAN at the beginning, does that mean Eve is a Male? Ifocus point 2

And where did you read that from?

Just watch, the pervert wants to talk about sex in heaven. focus point 3

Olodo...it should be focus point 4....

Ode...believers bodies will be PATTERN AFTER THAT OF CHRIST in GLORIFIED ONE ...not the delusion you're living with.

1 Corinthians 15:38 will cure this your delusion.

38 Then God gives it the new body he wants it to have. A different plant grows from each KIND OF SEED. NIV

The bodies is now a NEW BODIES but it's still what it sowed which is FLESH after its KIND. focus point 4

Barristter07:


We have gotten to a point tht what remains is pure comedy on your silly utterances. DappaD is a really nice Guy for taking the time to explain that at the point that Jesus became a Mediator , he was an Human. But your silly disposition and opposition to the truth Keep you dragging the Fine point he shared.

Since the word " man " appear twice at 1Tim 2:5 , Do you admit both cases are people with Flesh and blood ?

There is one God and Mediator between God and humans ( flesh and blood people ) , an human ( Flesh and blood ) Jesus .

Emusan:

[s]See the deluded being changing mouth now after his lies of Greek has been exposed
Was I the one who inserted ἀνθρώπων into 1 Tim 5
As the same original Greek text is exposing your lies and delusion.
Is Jesus still the mediator now or not? Liar....
Jesus is in heaven as HUMAN, how many times will I knocked that into your empty skull
See frustration, you haven't seen anything. The same transformer will locate you soon
Rev 21:3 God's HOME/RESIDENT is NOW WITH THE PEOPLE.
Definitely, God won't reside with your spirit being people as they will be in hell.
And ALL BELIEVERS are born again, ALL BELIEVERS will receive the prize of immortal life.
Just as you don't know that BELIEVING IN CHRIST AND EVEN IN HIS NAME makes you a BORN AGAIN, as I'm teaching you now.
Or your empty skull couldn't process those points.
I feel your pain.
Don't be ashame to learn, go back to that post and learn something at least it's not from apostate just learn something for once it'll do your brain good
What BORN OF SPIRIT IS SPIRIT
ALL BELIEVERS are born of spirit.
Says the deluded JWs.
A baby like you needs to be spoonfeed that's what we're doing here, so provide the text from that verse that says Jesus rose as a spirit.
We don't have anything to share with our neighbors yet we have more members more than you who have something to share.
Then whatever you're sharing must be really insignificant and have no value to your neighbors.
Just like I said, since you believe many resurrection will take place then definitely we the churchgoers will be part of one but for you your abode is the everlasting fire since you DON'T BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST EVEN IN HIS NAME.
Says the ignorant that what is sharing profiteth nothing to his neighbor. You can start lecturing your GB first maybe their delusions can be cured.[/s]

Emusan:

When you have something meaningful to say, you will address my point one after the other.

The point here is, if you're using Revelation 21:3 to mean people referring to are human with flesh and blood. Then you should take that as Jesus as mediator is also flesh and blood in heaven now since the same Greek word was used for Him.

That isn't the end, the 24 Elders who are in heaven mentioned in Revelation more than 5 times are also FLESH AND BLOOD since the Greek word presbýteros used for Elders was only used for HUMAN and not spirit

4245 presbýteros – properly, a mature MAN having seasoned judgment (experience); an elder.

Just like I said, so much more for human turned spirit being believers.

Blabbermouth:

Have we resorted to using questions to reply questions with the subtle intent of driving the discussion with a dead end?
Go ahead sir, you are in the know-how, answer my last question/request please.

Blabbermouth:

Has Jesus stopped mediating?

Emusan:

One thing you can dispute here is that it is SOWED IN NATURAL BODIES and it will be raised after its KIND.

You problem is still thinking that spiritual isn't physical. like I said, @living4christ has done enough justice to that earlier, educate yourself on that.

Just watch how the pervert wants to say there will be sex in heaven.

Termites have even finished your brain.

Does THE SPIRIT OF GOD LIVE IN SINNERS?

That's the question! Ode....

Barristter07:
The word " promise " is clear enough.

Then it's by a mans will, you know what to do. Do it . U are a joker

The men in capital letters are flesh and blood too.
Can we then agree Jesus have Flesh and blood in heaven ? Point one.

In English man could refer to Male and Female.

Here is what Genesis says

" Male and female he created them, and he blessed them and named them Man when they were created. " Genesis 5:2

It doesn't change the question: Does that mean you agree there will be Genders in heaven?

According to Jesus those counted worth of that ressurection will be like Angels, Do angels have genders?

The so called Glorified Body of Jesus have Wounds and Scars , he appeared to the disciples with it.

Hence the question: Since their Ressurection all be patterned after that of Christ Glorified body, Do you then admit that people will retain their Accident scars, surgery scars, Fire burns, Marks, , hunchbacks etc ?