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Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by BlackFrenchKing: 8:08pm On Nov 16, 2020

Was Yeshua Crucified on the Cross?

If Yeajua could in principle die, the focal question becomes whether crucifixion—as attested in the Gospels and affirmed by historical scholars—was the cause. The locus classicus of the debate is Q4:157, for which various translations are provided below:

Haleem—[Jews] said, ‘We have killed the Messiah, Yeshua , son of Mary, the Messenger of God.’ (They did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, though it was made to appear like that to them; those that disagreed about him are full of doubt, with no knowledge to follow, only supposition: they certainly did not kill him.)







The original nine Knights Templar went to the Temple Mount expressly to dig in 1119. They found scrolls. One was an Israelite royal wedding certificate from 11 BC between Yahya the Baptist (Tribe of Yudah) born November 12, 7 BC / 12.11.747 AUC / 20 Heshvan 3755 HC and Mary Magdalean (Tribe of Benjamin) born May 8, 2 BC / 8.5.752 AUC / 3759 HC. They had a son Yahya (Jr.) born 12 AD. Another royal wedding certificate from 24 AD was between Yeshua son of Yusef (Judean) born Saturday (Sabbath) April 17, 6 BC / 17.4.748 AUC / 29 Nisan 3755 HC and Magdalean. He adopted Yeshua “the beloved Disciple” - the Romans only allowed immediate family to be present at a crucifixion. God-incarnate was lashed 39 times and crucified on the 1st Day of Passover Friday April 7, 30 AD / 7.4.783 AUC / 14 Nisan 3790 HC. The Templars also discovered the http://JesusFamilyTomb.com in East Talpiot and took the skull & bones of Y'shua from his ossuary! They left another skull & crossbones on the floor in the entrance of the tomb that was found when it was next discovered in 1980. Yeshua death and resurrection is a myth - he miraculously had a near-death experience (term coined in 1974). The Ascension is also a myth - the historic Christ died sometime in the 40 years after his crucifixion (70 AD). It was a Hebrew tradition in the 1st century that a widow would marry the next-of-kin of the deceased husband. Jesus was the oldest 2nd cousin of Yahya the Baptist. The ‘Wedding at Cana’ was between Yeshua & Mary which is why he was responsible for the wine. ‘Marry Mary’ is encoded in English.

Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by Lifestone(m): 8:23pm On Nov 16, 2020
I dont get, what's your point here?
Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by thesicilian: 8:40pm On Nov 16, 2020
If it's not in the Bible, I'm not buying it.
Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by sonmvayina(m): 8:55pm On Nov 16, 2020
Why should a God die ? Does not make any sense..and secondly why do people think that death is a tragedy in Gods eyes? Somebody who drowned almost everybody..save for one family ...

Christians don't even stop for a moment to think..

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Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by tabletguy(m): 9:02pm On Nov 16, 2020
sonmvayina:
Why should a God die ? Does not make any sense..and secondly why do people think that death is a tragedy in Gods eyes? Somebody who drowned almost everybody..save for one family ...

Christians don't even stop for a moment to think..
...you are right only that your brain is totally bereaved of common Sense. You need to keep your opinion to yourself on volatile issues like religion.
Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by BlackFrenchKing: 10:06pm On Nov 16, 2020
thesicilian:
If it's not in the Bible, I'm not buying it.


Yet the Bible was not written by Black Hebrews it was written into Greek by Romans who later wrote it into Latin then Jacobites like King James who were Hebrews wrote it into English. There are countries where the Bible is illegal because of its shady history.



https://www.christiantoday.com/article/6-countries-where-owning-a-bible-is-dangerous/84497.htm

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Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by sonmvayina(m): 7:53am On Nov 17, 2020
tabletguy:

...you are right only that your brain is totally bereaved of common Sense. You need to keep your opinion to yourself on volatile issues like religion.

Lol...my comment over you, you just have to shot your brain down in other to accept those beliefs...good luck oh.you did not even make any attempt to present a superior argument, you just have to attack me...how convenient..

You think if there was any good thing about Jesu's , the white man will give him to you.

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Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by tabletguy(m): 9:06am On Nov 17, 2020
sonmvayina:


Lol...my comment over you, you just have to shot your brain down in other to accept those beliefs...good luck oh.you did not even make any attempt to present a superior argument, you just have to attack me...how convenient..

You think if there was any good thing about Jesu's , the white man will give him to you.
say this to the moslems and watch them skin you alive...or maybe you are a moslems attacking the Christian faith
Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by sonmvayina(m): 10:20am On Nov 17, 2020
tabletguy:

say this to the moslems and watch them skin you alive...or maybe you are a moslems attacking the Christian faith

They where both created for mumu people like you...

Only a moroon will believe a woman can get pregnant without a mans sperm..

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Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by BlackFrenchKing: 3:00pm On Nov 17, 2020
This subject as a matter of history and documented record. The Church comes to it as a matter of belief and faith. Do not confuse the two; they are different things.'
Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by BlackFrenchKing: 3:58pm On Nov 17, 2020
Certainly you will find the most violent of people in enmity for those who believe (to be) the Jews and those who are polytheists, and you will certainly find the nearest in friendship to those who believe (to be) those who say: We are Christians; this is because there are priests and monks among them and because they do not behave proudly.


When the Holy Quran is speaking of good Christians it is referring to the Cathars Mary Magdalene Christianity that was the actual bloodline of Hebrews monotheism. Christ was held as an apostle of Allah and not God. With Allah being understood as the one God or The God in Arabic language and meaning. This verse is not identifying with Catholicism which is nothing more than traditional pagan Vodou worship of ancestral spirits called Saints, homosexual priesthood, molestation rituals, statue worship and materialism. This idol worship is forbidden in all monotheistic religions from Vedas to Islam. Instead of pagans being honest with their religion they put on the mask of denominational Christianity, Catholism and Black Islam. They make war upon all the true believers and this is what this verse means. White Jews like Joe Biden are Isrealite converts taught by the Black Isrealites living in Rome whom were pagan bull worshippers. These are those Black Hebrews who turned on the Yudean King and son of King Solomon. Kamala Harris is a Greek pagan soror and her Indian roots are cow worshipping pagan Brahmins as well. These are pagans around the world rising up using marxist communist take over political stratagem.

Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by advocatejare(m): 4:35pm On Nov 17, 2020
BlackFrenchKing:

Was Yeshua Crucified on the Cross?

If Yeajua could in principle die, the focal question becomes whether crucifixion—as attested in the Gospels and affirmed by historical scholars—was the cause. The locus classicus of the debate is Q4:157, for which various translations are provided below:

Haleem—[Jews] said, ‘We have killed the Messiah, Yeshua , son of Mary, the Messenger of God.’ (They did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, though it was made to appear like that to them; those that disagreed about him are full of doubt, with no knowledge to follow, only supposition: they certainly did not kill him.)

Nonsense. An illiterate that lived more than 600 years after Christ had died and resurrected came to lie that Jesus didn't die on the cross, that God saved him from dying and that he was raised to heaven alive.

The illiterate also claimed to be an apostle of God, and the last messenger but his god that saved Jesus from dying couldn't save him(Muhammad). He allowed Muhammad to die an agonizing death after the poison he ate killed him slowly for months.

Sahih Bukhari 5:59:730
Narrated By 'Aisha
It was one of the favours of Allah towards me that Allah's Apostle expired in my house on the day of my turn while he was leaning against my chest and Allah made my saliva mix with his saliva at his death. 'Abdur-Rahman entered upon me with a Siwak in his hand and I was supporting (the back of) Allah's Apostle (against my chest). I saw the Prophet looking at it (i.e. Siwak) and I knew that he loved the Siwak, so I said (to him), "Shall I take it for you ? " He nodded in agreement. So I took it and it was too stiff for him to use, so I said, "Shall I soften it for you ?" He nodded his approval. So I softened it and he cleaned his teeth with it. In front of him there was a jug or a tin, (The sub-narrator, 'Umar is in doubt as to which was right) containing water. He started dipping his hand in the water and rubbing his face with it, he said, "None has the right to be worshipped except Allah. Death has its agonies." He then lifted his hands (towards the sky) and started saying, "With the highest companion," till he expired and his hand dropped down.

Also, Muhammad was the only 'prophet' that died of poison and Muhammad claimed he was a believer like Jesus. But the same Jesus said poison cannot work on believers, yet poison worked on Muhammad. That means Muhammad was not a believer. He was obviously an impostor.

"Bukhari 5:59:713
Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."


Mark.16.17 - And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues;
Mark.16.18 - they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well."

WHY DID ALLAH CLAIM TO SAVE JESUS FROM DEATH BUT ALLOWED MUHAMMAD TO DIE MISERABLY? WHAT WAS SPECIAL ABOUT JESUS THAT ALLAH CLAIMED TO HAVE SAVED HIM?

JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED, DIED AND WAS BURIED ACCORDING TO THE JEWISH TRADITION AND HE RESURRECTED ON THE THIRD DAY.

MUHAMMAD DIED, WAS LEFT UNBURIED FOR 3 DAYS AS AGAINST ISLAMIC TRADITION, YET ALLAH COULD NOT RAISE HIM UP. WHAT AN IRONY




Finally, Satan the head of all demons was defeated by the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ that's why he's been lying to deny that experience and he's using you his agents to drive that narratives.

But it's a lie, victory is ours, Satan remains defeated forever!

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Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by woleomojesu(f): 4:43pm On Nov 17, 2020
Hmmm
Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by BlackFrenchKing: 5:05pm On Nov 17, 2020
Advocatejare

What tribe do you belong? I bet your father's before converting to Islam were slave raiding, slave sacrificing and demon worshipping pagans.

The Qur'an is the only authenic universal authority in Islam you can't force stories and hadiths upon other Muslims. The Holy Quran says Christ son of Mary was not crucified and that's that.
Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by BlackFrenchKing: 5:59pm On Nov 17, 2020
There is no only one God
Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by advocatejare(m): 7:15pm On Nov 17, 2020
BlackFrenchKing:
Advocatejare

What tribe do you belong? I bet your father's before converting to Islam were slave raiding, slave sacrificing and demon worshipping pagans.
That was their business not mine

The Qur'an is the only authenic universal authority in Islam you can't force stories and hadiths upon other Muslims. The Holy Quran says Christ son of Mary was not crucified and that's that.
Then you're an ignoramus.

First, there's nothing holy about the Quran which was a book about the personal affair of how Muhammad was marrying his adopted son's wife, giving himself right to sleep with countless of women and so on

Second, the Quran that you so much hold in high esteem has advised you to ask those that have knowledge when you're confused about what is in the Quran, you were asked to ask the people of the book(Christians and the Jews), and the book says that Jesus died and resurrected to defeat Satan your god and Allah (Baal) one of Satan's demons. But Satan is denying the event that happened 600years before Muhammad was born, in your Quran


"So if you are in doubt about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters."
(QS. Yunus 10: Verse 94)



"And We sent not before you except men to whom We revealed [Our message]. So ask the people of the message if you do not know."
(QS. An-Nahl 16: Verse 43)
Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by BlackFrenchKing: 7:39pm On Nov 17, 2020
Advocatejare


Show the verses where it says Prophet Muhammad committed sins you state?

1. What tribe is your fathers?


grin
Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by advocatejare(m): 7:58pm On Nov 17, 2020
BlackFrenchKing:
A

The Qur'an is the only authenic universal authority in Islam you can't force stories and hadiths upon other Muslims.

Then that means you're saying that other Muslims that follow the sunnah are misguided

That means you're saying Allah didn't know what he was saying when he said when you obey Muhammad you have obeyed Allah :

"He who obeys the Messenger has obeyed Allah; but those who turn away - We have not sent you over them as a guardian."
(QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 80)


And when Allah said that whatever Muhammad give you, you should take:


"And what Allah restored to His Messenger from the people of the towns - it is for Allah and for the Messenger and for [his] near relatives and orphans and the [stranded] traveler - so that it will not be a perpetual distribution among the rich from among you. And whatever the Messenger has given you - take; and what he has forbidden you - refrain from. And fear Allah; indeed, Allah is severe in penalty."
(QS. Al-Hashr 59: Verse 7)


You're disobeying the words of your Quran. Weldone

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Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by advocatejare(m): 8:05pm On Nov 17, 2020
BlackFrenchKing:
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Show the verses where it says Prophet Muhammad committed sins you state?
Which sin did I state? Quote what I said and I will give you the reference

What tribe is your fathers?

Tell me your fathers' tribe first
Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by BlackFrenchKing: 8:35pm On Nov 17, 2020
advocatejare:

Which sin did I state? Quote what I said and I will give you the reference



Tell me your fathers' tribe first




Yudea is my father's bloodline.

Where in the Quran does it state what you have said of Muhammad?

1. What is your father's bloodline?


Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by BlackFrenchKing: 8:38pm On Nov 17, 2020
No one can trace any Hadith to prophet Muhammad.
Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by BlackFrenchKing: 9:25pm On Nov 17, 2020
Advocatejare


Don't make this an unanswered prayer. I'm waiting, what is your father's tribe?
Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by advocatejare(m): 10:34pm On Nov 17, 2020
BlackFrenchKing:



Yudea is my father's bloodline.
When you're ready to tell me what your tribe is, I'll answer you

Where in the Quran does it state what you have said of Muhammad?

"Quran...a book about the personal affair of how Muhammad was marrying his adopted son's wife,..."

Proof:
"And [remember, O Muhammad], when you said to the one on whom Allah bestowed favor and you bestowed favor, Keep your wife and fear Allah, while you concealed within yourself that which Allah is to disclose. And you feared the people, while Allah has more right that you fear Him. So when Zayd had no longer any need for her, We married her to you in order that there not be upon the believers any discomfort concerning the wives of their adopted sons when they no longer have need of them. And ever is the command of Allah accomplished."
(QS. Al-Ahzaab 33: Verse 37)


"...giving himself right to sleep with countless of women and so on..."
Proof:


"O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation and those your right hand possesses from what Allah has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her, [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful."
(QS. Al-Ahzaab 33: Verse 50)
Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by advocatejare(m): 10:35pm On Nov 17, 2020
BlackFrenchKing:

No one can trace any Hadith to prophet Muhammad.

Ok
Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by Bacteriologist(m): 11:35pm On Nov 17, 2020
tabletguy:

say this to the moslems and watch them skin you alive...or maybe you are a moslems attacking the Christian faith


Read something else other than that evil, edited, translated, re-translated and re-edited misogynistic piece of junk called the buybull and you might realise that people criticise Islam on a daily basis.

Both religions are tools of prejudice and brainwashing. It's not a pity you can only see half of the picture.
Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by BlackFrenchKing: 11:51pm On Nov 17, 2020
Bacteriologist:


Read something else other than that evil, edited, translated, re-translated and re-edited misogynistic piece of junk called the buybull and you might realise that people criticise Islam on a daily basis.

Both religions are tools of prejudice and brainwashing. It's not a pity you can only see half of the picture.

Pagsns are pretending to be Christians and Muslims, check their tribe and see for yourself their father's religion was polytheism. Black Hebrews and Yemen Black Shemites plus some Persians and Yavadas we have never been pagans. My fathers Defrance have never held pagan traditions.

Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by Bacteriologist(m): 11:54pm On Nov 17, 2020
BlackFrenchKing:


Pagsns are pretending to be Christians and Muslims, check their tribe and see for yourself their father's religion was polytheism. Black Hebrews and Yemen Black Shemites plus some Persians and Yavadas we have never been pagans. My fathers Defrance have never held pagan traditions.



Word salad. Write in more relatable and clearer terms.
Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by BlackFrenchKing: 11:59pm On Nov 17, 2020
Bacteriologist:


Word salad. Write in more relatable and clearer terms.

Its data. You make up the rest.
Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by tabletguy(m): 6:06pm On Nov 18, 2020
Bacteriologist:


Read something else other than that evil, edited, translated, re-translated and re-edited misogynistic piece of junk called the buybull and you might realise that people criticise Islam on a daily basis.

Both religions are tools of prejudice and brainwashing. It's not a pity you can only see half of the picture.
lol coward...don't say people criticise Islam on a daily basis...try doing it and watch ur useless self die
Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by BlackFrenchKing: 6:11pm On Nov 18, 2020
Yavadas only have one God and Krisha is the origin of the Christ story.

Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by BlackFrenchKing: 5:18pm On Nov 19, 2020
Yes he survived
Re: Did He Survive The Cruxifiction And Bear Children? by ANTIlSLAM(m): 5:44pm On Nov 19, 2020
Some Slaves Of allah Are Just Like A Comedian

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