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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 11:37am On Nov 18, 2020
Barristter07:


1Timothy 2:5,6
For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time.

In heaven or on Earth, when did Jesus gave himself as a ransom?

And Yes the Greek word refer to Men with flesh and blood. It's this blood that enable Jesus as a man pay the ransom.

OLODO forgetting that what Jesus did was a shadow of heavenly things as revealed to Moses.

No wonder you can't answer my question, is Jesus still A MEDIATOR in heaven NOW?


Thankfully they were never called humans.

You See the hypocrite!

But the word USED FOR HUMAN WITH FLESH AND BLOOD was USED for THEN.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 11:39am On Nov 18, 2020
This thread will be bookmarked for references . Emusan goofing left and right in doctrinal errors.


Emusan:


WHAT IS BORN OF SPIRIT is spirit.

Immediately you BORN OF SOMETHING you took the nature of that think.

so your lies of PROMISE doesn't hold here, which means you wrongly interpreted that John 3:6.


God's divine nature is Spirit in form . The text did well pointing it out that it's a promise

If it's wrongly interpreted, then tell this thread How is what is born of spirit, Spirit ?


Do you believe in Jesus Christ and EVEN in His name?

John 1:12-13 says "AS MANY that believe on Him even believe in His name, He gave them power to become sons of God, not BORN of the will of FLESH or MAN but of GOD HIMSELF"

" Do you" , in other words you can personally dictate that you wanna be born again. Which goes against the scriptures you even quoted.



That shows the HUMAN mentioned in Revelation 21:3 are not flesh and blood. Do you agree?

They are . Genesis 5:2 is still there for you.


And who told you there's was no gender in heaven?
grin grin grin grin wow, what are the genders ? Male , female ?



because THEY DON'T MARRY.

Why don't they marry if they have gender?


Provide the scripture that says Angels don't have gender?

SPIRIT persons are represented as Neuter in scriptures.



Read 1 Corinthian 15:38 again.
It will cure your delusion.
Are you denying Jesus glorious body ni ? grin Eleya yi ma po o

The so called Glorified Body of Jesus have Wounds and Scars , he appeared to the disciples with it.

Hence the question: Since their Ressurection all be patterned after that of Christ Glorified body which have wounds and scars, Do you then admit that people will retain their Accident scars, surgery scars, Fire burns, Marks, , hunchbacks etc ?

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 11:41am On Nov 18, 2020
Emusan:


OLODO forgetting that what Jesus did was a shadow of heavenly things as revealed to Moses.

No wonder you can't answer my question, is Jesus still A MEDIATOR in heaven NOW?

Mediator, The man Jesus who " GAVE"

Why the word " Gave " ?

His past as an human with flesh and blood


You See the hypocrite!

But the word USED FOR HUMAN WITH FLESH AND BLOOD was USED for THEN.

They ain't called humans. Show me where they are called Humans ?

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 11:41am On Nov 18, 2020
Barristter07:
It's kind is a body of flesh and blood . So is Jesus flesh and blood in heaven ?

ITS KIND is HUMAN not Spirit.

Simple question: if they will be like Angels, do angels have gender ?

Show us from the scripture, that angels don't have genders.

Yet that Spirit of God give life to Sinners mortal bodies too ? grin grin grin in short, they have Spiritual bodies as well .

Do UNBELIEVERS have God's spirit in them

This question won't go until you answer it.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 11:48am On Nov 18, 2020
Emusan:


ITS KIND is HUMAN not Spirit.

Humans are flesh and blood beings, Do you then accept Jesus is flesh and blood ?


Show us from the scripture, that angels don't have genders.

So what's their gender ?



Do UNBELIEVERS have God's spirit in them

This question won't go until you answer it.
You don't have sense.
For them to have receive life in their mortal bodies , they have it. Romans 8:11 grin

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 11:57am On Nov 18, 2020
Barristter07:
This thread will be bookmarked for references . Emusan goofing left and right in doctrinal errors.

Cry me a river!

God's divine nature is Spirit in form . The text did well pointing it out that it's a promise

If it's wrongly interpreted, then tell this thread How is what is born of spirit, Spirit ?

Just as the following text shows that the promise is for ALL BELIEVERS.

I've done that earlier, you left your brain in mechanic place then?

" Do you" , in other words you can personally dictate that you wanna be born again. Which goes against the scriptures you even quoted.

"DO YOU" is a question tag and answer me ode

It's evident from that scripture that A BELIEVER IS BORN OF GOD

They are . Genesis 5:2 is still there for you.

Then Jesus and the 24 elders are flesh and blood in heaven since the same word used in Gen 5:2 was used for them.

grin grin grin grin wow, what are the genders ? Male , female?

Show us from the scripture where it says Angels don't have genders.

Why don't they marry if they have gender?

You see what I'm talking about, the pervert thinks heaven must be about sex.

SPIRIT persons are represented as Neuter in scriptures.

When I say go to English school you won't here, now you're disgracing yourself on a public forum.

Neuter is part is of four genders of noun?

What you even know as genders vary from culture to culture.

Olodo oshi..

Are you denying Jesus glorious body ni ? grin Eleya yi ma po o

The so called Glorified Body of Jesus have Wounds and Scars , he appeared to the disciples with it.

Hence the question: Since their Ressurection all be patterned after that of Christ Glorified body which have wounds and scars, Do you then admit that people will retain their Accident scars, surgery scars, Fire burns, Marks, , hunchbacks etc ?

1 Corinthians 15:38 is there for you let it cure your delusion.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 12:01pm On Nov 18, 2020
Barristter07:
Humans are flesh and blood beings, Do you then accept Jesus is flesh and blood?

Human is FLESH AND BONES, Jesus is human now in heaven.

So what's their gender?

Answer my question first!


You don't have sense.
For them to have receive life in their mortal bodies , they have it. Romans 8:11 grin

So unbelievers have the SPIRIT OF GOD, yet you who don't have God's spirit go from house to house to preach to the same unbelievers who have God's spirit

And the Bible even says As many that are led by the SPIRIT OF GOD they are the sons of God"

Your case is beyond repair!
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 12:03pm On Nov 18, 2020
Barristter07:

Until you debunk the Fact that what is called Spirit is invisible and immaterial. You are lost
Lol. He has run away.

If I have anything against all/some of what you are saying, I will address it [sooner or later].

You are a bible student aren't you, answer my question.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 12:05pm On Nov 18, 2020
Barristter07:


The text said the Man Jesus who GAVE himself.

"Gave " . The text was reffering to a past event.

Sense no dey for una ?
The question required a binary YES/No answer.

Has Jesus stopped mediating?
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 12:05pm On Nov 18, 2020
Emusan:


Human is FLESH AND BONES, Jesus is human now in heaven.

Flesh , bones, blood.
Genesis 5:2 Do they have blood ?



Answer my question first!


Nowhere in the scripture does it say they have gender. The word " Spirit " is even neuter

Let me burst your brain: So Holy spirit has Gender, you wan tell us say He sex Mary ?

Bobo yi grin


So unbelievers have the SPIRIT OF GOD, yet you who doesn't have God's spirit go from house to house to preach to the same unbelievers who have God's spirit

Your case is beyond repair!

U say they don't , yet their mortal bodies were made to come to life , Are you okay ?

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by drupleez: 12:06pm On Nov 18, 2020
spirit I think
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 12:06pm On Nov 18, 2020
Blabbermouth:

The question required a binary YES/No answer.

Has Jesus stopped mediating?
Still mediating, as a Life giving Spirit being.

The reference to man at 1Tim 2:5,6 was to the Ransom he " Gave " as Flesh and blood.

Or you wan tell me Ya Jesus is still flesh and blood in heaven ni ? Yeye

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 12:08pm On Nov 18, 2020
Blabbermouth:

Lol. He has run away.

If I have anything against all/some of what you are saying, I will address it [sooner or later].

You are a bible student aren't you, answer my question.

I don't. I say debunk it that what is called Spirit is immaterial and invisible. If you can't., You are wasting your time

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 12:13pm On Nov 18, 2020
Barristter07:

Flesh , bones, blood.
Genesis 5:2 Do they have blood ?

Isn't the same word used?

Hypocrite!

Nowhere in the scripture does it say they have gender. The word " Spirit " is even neuter

Neuter is part of genders noun.

To your deluded mind, you think gender is just about male and female..
Go school you no gree

Let me burst your brain: So Holy spirit has Gender, you wan tell us say He sex Mary ?

Bobo yi grin

A perverted soul, why don't you think of if Holy Spirit is a female?

That's why you want to fuss gender into heaven just to say there will be sex in heaven.

Oniranu

U say they don't , yet their mortal bodies were made to come to life , Are you okay ?

You're not okay for sure!

Then do you agree that Romans 8:11 isn't for unbelievers?
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 12:18pm On Nov 18, 2020
Emusan:


Cry me a river!
Just as the following text shows that the promise is for ALL BELIEVERS.

I've done that earlier, you left your brain in mechanic place then?

"DO YOU" is a question tag and answer me ode

It's evident from that scripture that A BELIEVER IS BORN OF GOD



Then Jesus and the 24 elders are flesh and blood in heaven since the same word used in Gen 5:2 was used for them.


The context of the usage for Jesus defeat your purpose. Kindly provide where the word Human used in Genesis 5:2 was used for the 24 Elders ? O tun n paro grin grin



Show us from the scripture where it says Angels don't have genders.


What's their gender ?

Where there is gender, there is marriage and Sex.

Do angels have sex ?

Do they marry ?

Brain no just dey for you




You see what I'm talking about, the pervert thinks heaven must be about sex.


Where Male and Female exist, Sex exists .



When I say go to English school you won't here, now you're disgracing yourself on a public forum.

Neuter is part is of four genders of noun?

What you even know as genders vary from culture to culture.

Olodo oshi..


Neuter simply means neither masculine or feminine. Since they have genders in your small head, what's their genders ?


1 Corinthians 15:38 is there for you let it cure your delusion.
It will be patterned after Jesus ressurection body of wounds and scars, person wey get hunchback go retain am, Burns and fire scars, surgery scars, accident scars will all be retained. Since that body Jesus show to his apostles is your small thinking definition of glorified body.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 12:26pm On Nov 18, 2020
Barristter07:


I don't. I say debunk it that what is called Spirit is immaterial and invisible. If you can't., You are wasting your time
Debunk it? Why should I?
You can only ask me to debunk something if I've given a critique comment on your "spirit it immaterial and invisible" statement. So far today, I've only been putting one brick on the other as you've been giving.

So my dear, go and answer my question as a true bible student.
Don't mind haddeylium, it's more courageous to embrace the truth and lose face than back down to protect ego and errors.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 12:28pm On Nov 18, 2020
Emusan:


Isn't the same word used?

Hypocrite!


Jesus being human in heaven means he is flesh and blood.


Neuter is part of genders noun.

To your deluded mind, you think gender is just about male and female..
Go school you no gree

But angels are neither male not female, So how are they like angels if they are raised as male and females ?


A perverted soul, why don't you think of if Holy Spirit is a female?
That's why you want to fuss gender into heaven just to say there will be sex in heaven.
Oniranu
Mary is female, It takes a male to fertilize a female egg Mr Gender in heaven .




You're not okay for sure!

Then do you agree that Romans 8:11 isn't for unbelievers?

Unless you mean unbelievers want be ressurected. It's definitely for them since their mortal bodies too will come alive. In short your spiritual body extends to Unbelievers too . Eleya Yi ma po o

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 12:29pm On Nov 18, 2020
Blabbermouth:

Debunk it? Why should I?
You can only ask me to debunk something if I've given a critique comment on your "spirit it immaterial and invisible" statement. So far today, I've only been putting one brick on the other as you've been giving.

So my dear, go and answer my question as a true bible student.
Don't mind haddeylium, it's more courageous to embrace the truth and lose face than back down to protect ego and errors.

Sure u can't.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 12:30pm On Nov 18, 2020
drupleez:
spirit I think
U are right

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 12:31pm On Nov 18, 2020
Barristter07:

Still mediating.
What I needed to hear.

By the way, what is he even mediating gan sef? A covenant or what?
as a Life giving Spirit bein.
He has been quickening anything quickenable (lol) since his days on earth. John 5:21 John 6:63

The reference to man at 1Tim 2:5,6 was to the Ransom he " Gave " as Flesh and blood.
I didn't ask you.

Or you wan tell me Ya Jesus is still flesh and blood in heaven ni ? Yeye
Unfortunately, you are not equipped with the right wisdom.
In your mind, you wish you can get back on ground after you were made laughing stocks some days ago.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 12:32pm On Nov 18, 2020
Barristter07:


Sure u can't.
Lol...
Go ahead and answer my question.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 12:33pm On Nov 18, 2020
Blabbermouth:

Lol...
Go ahead and answer my question.
Have done justice to everym

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 12:34pm On Nov 18, 2020
Blabbermouth:

What I needed to hear.

By the way, what is he even mediating gan sef? A covenant or what?

He has been quickening anything quickenable (lol) since his days on earth. John 5:21 John 6:63

I didn't ask you.

Unfortunately, you are not equipped with the right wisdom.
In your mind, you wish you can get back on ground after you were made laughing stocks some days ago.

I was never a laughing stock. You definitely meet more than you bargain. You were not expecting it . I ask a question: Since Jesus is still human in heaven, Do you accept he is Flesh and blood ?

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 1:26pm On Nov 18, 2020
Blabbermouth:

Hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha, this is what I needed.

Extra, in that scripture, was Christ just saying my words are invisible?
Dear Barristter07
1. A binary YES/No, + what other message Christ was passing.

Or better still, give a truthful exegesis on John 6:63.
Dear Barristter07
2. Do a brief exegesis on John 6:63
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 1:29pm On Nov 18, 2020
Barristter07:

I was never a laughing stock. You definitely meet more than you bargain. You were not expecting it .
After Haddeylium, you are the weakest (i.e emptiest) witness I ever engaged.
You were a laughing stock when your errors made you the same as Jehovah.
Don't come here with authority shit, we've thrashed that already.

I ask a question: Since Jesus is still human in heaven, Do you accept he is Flesh and blood ?
What did Adam say to confirm eve as human? Flesh and Bones

What did Christ say to confirm himself as human? Flesh and bones.

Christ Jesus is flesh and bones in heaven.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 1:29pm On Nov 18, 2020
Barristter07:

Have done justice to everym
That's not true.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 1:31pm On Nov 18, 2020
Barristter07:


This is another comedy from the past on this thread. Jesus is human,. A Male human body producing sperms, While Females will also go to heaven as Females, with ovaries and breasts , The idiot said Jesus was more of a spiritual man than physical . Ask him if he agree then that Jesus has flesh and blood since those called spiritual men in the Bible have flesh and blood ? He will go blank
Olodo, Jesus said he had flesh and bones, do spirits have flesh and bones?
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 1:42pm On Nov 18, 2020
Barristter07:


I was never a laughing stock. You definitely meet more than you bargain. You were not expecting it . I ask a question: Since Jesus is still human in heaven, Do you accept he is Flesh and blood ?
you are a joke, Are you telling me Jesus stopped being Human after his resurrection?
Why is Jesus called the man Christ Jesus??
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:20pm On Nov 18, 2020
livingchrist:
you have only succeeded in saying nothing,
How is Jehovah different from others?

You keep shouting 'Jehovah is the only true God' whereas you claim the word God is just a title, so what if others bears that title too doesnt that make them true gods after all God is just a title?

How can Jehovah prove his Almightiness of he is not Almighty by his nature?

YES! With the title all Gods are equal but when it comes to proofs, JEHOVAH distinguished himself by presenting his WITNESSES! Isaiah 43:10-12

He introduced himself to us through the pages of the Bible!
No other God can explain so much about how life began and what led to the troubles facing mankind today like JEHOVAH the God of Israel!

That's why we keep telling you and your folks
Present the worshipers of your own God

Let the world know your God through the activities of his worshipers.

Before the whole world i Maximus present
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! undecided
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:29pm On Nov 18, 2020
I don't think it's JWs that inserted Luke 3:38 in your copy of the Bible nah! undecided

The Bible there called Adam "the son of God" undecided


livingchrist:
Adam is Spirit too grin since according to you Adam is born of God



so they too will become Jehovah right?

Bros, grin why are you running from the fact


2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

Bursted grin Jehovah is the spirit that birth people,
So anyone one born of the spirit Jehovah is spirit. cheesy
Jehovah cannot give birth to flesh
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:22pm On Nov 18, 2020
You don't need to be aggressive over this Sir! smiley

God call Adam "son" just as he called Jesus, the only difference is Jesus is God's first born son (in the spirit realm) while Adam was God's first born son (in the flesh).
So God never intended to scrap any of these two but since Satan (because he's a powerful spirit being) challenged God's authority to rule over humans, God decided to make humans rule as Kings over the earth and to ridicule Satan completely these humans will become spirit persons in heaven when Satan is ousted. That's why they needed a rebirth as God's son in the spirit realm.
But it's not all God's children that will become spirit beings, millions will inherit the earth as flesh and God's blessings will be upon them forever!
So if you don't agree with that there's no wahala, keep your faith and continue making disciples for your God, i'm always doing the same for mine! smiley

God bless you! smiley






Emusan:


And the people who become SPIRIT BEINGS aren't FLESH before bah

Nonsense and ingredient.



And the same people who will become spirit beings don't need salvation after forgiveness...

Nonsense and ingredient again...



because watchtower says so but the question ONLY you can answer within your consciousness is.

Am I believe in Jesus Christ even on His name?

If your answer is Yes! Then you're BORN AGAIN because the scripture says "AS MANY that believe on him even in His name He gave power to be the sons of God, not BORN by the will of flesh or man but BY GOD HIMSELF" The new birth if what ALL BELIEVERS in Christ must have before reigning with Him.



But the scripture says if you don't BELIEVE in the one the Father sent you're already condemned and PERISH.


"For God so love the world that He gave His one and Only unique Son, that WHOSOEVER BELIEVE in him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16

Anyone who doesn't BELIEVE IN HIM is a ginger.

And John 1:12-13 says, AS MANY THAT BELIEVE IN CHRIST EVEN IN HIS NAME are BORN (REBIRTH) by God.



And John 1:12-13, John 3:16 are directed to the little flocks ko?



Just like I said, if you can answer the question.

Do I really BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST even on His name? And your answer is Yes! Then you get this New Rebirth...

Unless if you tell us that John 1:12-13 is for the little flocks then we can agree that John 3:16 is also for the little flocks.

You're welcome!
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 7:13pm On Nov 18, 2020
Blabbermouth:

After Haddeylium, .

You're just obsessed with me

I would rather you channel that energy into what the Bible teaches and not this unfounded fairytale

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