alBHAGDADI:

This is an interesting read.


Today, many people take being born again to mean different things other than what the Bible says it means.

The Bible says "...except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

But when some people talk about being born again, they mean someone who has repented from his sins and doesn't sin again. This is quite wrong because so many verses tell us that we are all sinners and that anyone who says he's without sin is a liar.

1 John 1:8 KJV
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Ecclesiastes 7:20 KJV
For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

As seen above, we are all sinners even when we are righteous. So, how come some people think a born again person is someone who has repented from his sins or doesn't sin? It's because they have believed the wrong gospel.

So, who is a born again person and how did he attain it? Do you remember that conversation Nicodemus had with Jesus?

John 3:3-6 KJV
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

At this point, Nicodemus was wondering if Jesus meant that one has to enter into his mother's womb a second time to be born again.

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

As seen above, Jesus clearly explained the kind of birth he was talking about. He spoke of two births. One has already happened to us all, but the second needs to happen for us to have eternal life and see the Kingdom of God.

The first birth which we have all experienced is the "born of water" spoken of by Jesus. We humans were all born of water. Ever heard the phrase "a woman's water is broken"? That happens when she gives birth.

Jesus spoke of a second birth which the "born of the spirit." It is that one that needs to now happen to us for us to see the kingdom of God.

Explaining both births again, Jesus made it clear that born of water is the flesh birth which our parents had of us, while born of spirit is spirit birth.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Now that we know how we can be born of the flesh or of water, which we have already experienced, how do we become born of the spirit?

We become born of the spirit by simply believing in Jesus Christ as our Lord and Saviour according to John 3:16.

John 1:12 KJV
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

As seen above, once we believe and accept Jesus, we become the sons of God who is a Spirit (God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth John 4:24).

God sent Jesus to redeem us so that we can be adopted into his family as sons just as Jesus is a Son of God.

Galatians 4:4-5 KJV
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

Basically, our parents gave birth to us which is the first birth called born of water or flesh birth. This makes us the children of our parents. When we accept and believe in Jesus Christ, we experience the second birth which is born of spirit. This second birth makes us the children of God. This gives us the right to see the Kingdom of God our Father just as we had the right to enter our earthly father's house.

Just as we carry the DNA of our parents, we also carry something that makes us the children of God. That thing is the Holy Spirit.

What our parents gave birth to sins a lot. We sin today because we inherited a sinful nature from our parents who inherited it from Adam.

The Good News is that what God gives birth to doesn't sin. This explains why Jesus Christ never sinned. This is why we that we are his brothers and also sons of God like him never sin.

You might say, "But I saw brother B sinning the other day." Who you saw sinning is who his parents gave birth to which inherited a sinful nature. But that which God gave birth to inside of him doesn't sin.

1 John 3:9 KJV
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

The reason why Brother B who committed a sin yesterday is not regarded as a sinner before God is because it wasn't his spirit which has been possessed and purchased by the Holy Spirit of God that committed that sin. The sin was committed by the flesh which his parents gave birth to which is prone to sin. That's why the Bible said...

1 John 1:8 KJV
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Ecclesiastes 7:20 KJV
For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

Our parents sin, so what they give birth to will always sin. God doesn't sin, so what he gives birth to can't sin. God sent his son to save us from our sins so we won't be sinners in his eyes anymore regardless of what we do.

The key is to believe Jesus is the one to pay for your sins, which he has done already, only if you believe he has.

Thank you.

I would have agreed with everything you wrote except for the part where you said, when a born again sins it's his flesh that commits the sin n not the holy spirit,yes the holy Spirit can not sin but should this be use to justify sinning by born again? isn't even contradictory that the holy Spirit would truly reside in a body n wouldn't stop the body from sinning?

maolah:
Islam is the only way, any other religions is rong way!

lwkmd, awwwwwwn!

GOTVee:
Even though I'm a born again Christian, I believe I will never make heaven. I have sinned and fall short of the glory of God despite being a born again Christian for 25 years now

You obviously have no idea what it means to be born again.

GOTVee:
Even though I'm a born again Christian, I believe I will never make heaven. I have sinned and fall short of the glory of God despite being a born again Christian for 25 years now

Can we talk about this your situation on whatsapp? If you don't mind

Lord take more of me and give me more of you. Let us ask for the God Grace.

You literally have to be a FOOL AND BASTARD to believe that a child rapist, fake prophet from Mecca can give you salvation.
YOU HAVE TO BE THE DESCENDANT OF A GENERATION OF FOOLS TO BELIEVE SUCH NONSENSE LIKE THIS
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Sodiquinone:
The Good News is that what God gives birth to doesn't sin. This explains why Jesus Christ never sinned.

So God gave birth to Jesus,u literarily have to be mad to be a christian, Jesus that cursed a fig tree that didn't offend him didn't sin??

Yes it is the way to prostitution in Hannah


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maolah:
Islam is the only way, any other religions is rong way!

You're awaiting eternal prostitution like your fellow followers of the child rapist fake prophet

[img]https://images./3Egj8g6mIra1ffVEYf6xjZ.png[/img]

AntiChristian:
I am Born again too.

kuonbe:
. Oga born again Christan don't even think of porn ,. not even clicking it to watch

na Devil workshop be dat

A born again can never sin...

Donspicey:
Always pray and ask God for Forgiveness of sins.....


Sin can be commited knowingly or Unknowingly.....


No body is guaranteed salvation until the Last day wen u face ur creator......



Heaven no sure for anybody still alive......

Heaven is sure for those who believe in Jesus Christ. That is what John 3:16 says. It says eternal life is given to them for believing.

John 3:16 KJV
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

The below verse assures those who are alive today that they already have eternal life. Why? Because they believe in Jesus Christ.


1 John 5:13 KJV
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Deepthoughts:
I would have agreed with everything you wrote except for the part where you said, when a born again sins it's his flesh that commits the sin n not the holy spirit,yes the holy Spirit can not sin but should this be use to justify sinning by born again? isn't even contradictory that the holy Spirit would truly reside in a body n wouldn't stop the body from sinning?

The flesh and the spirit are constantly at war. You flesh wants to sin while the spirit doesn't want you to.


Galatians 5:17 KJV
For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

Mathew 26:41 KJV
Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.

Thank you, Jesus. ❤

born again ke?

MrNipplesLover:
Thank you, Jesus. ❤

pastor chris is the king of all fraudulent pastors
watch as he come on podium start preaching about "healthy marriage life" when he couldn't even keep his own wife

Who taught such message ie to be born of water is to be born by a woman. Jesus did say to be born of water and the holy spirit. He didn't justify Nicodemus as been born of water already. But emphasized that he must be born of both water and the spirit.

Just so you know the water birth refers to water baptism; even Christ was baptized. You can't begin your journey with Christ with First been baptized.

alBHAGDADI:

This is an interesting read.


Today, many people take being born again to mean different things other than what the Bible says it means.

The Bible says "...except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

But when some people talk about being born again, they mean someone who has repented from his sins and doesn't sin again. This is quite wrong because so many verses tell us that we are all sinners and that anyone who says he's without sin is a liar.

1 John 1:8 KJV
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Ecclesiastes 7:20 KJV
For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

As seen above, we are all sinners even when we are righteous. So, how come some people think a born again person is someone who has repented from his sins or doesn't sin? It's because they have believed the wrong gospel.

So, who is a born again person and how did he attain it? Do you remember that conversation Nicodemus had with Jesus?

John 3:3-6 KJV
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

At this point, Nicodemus was wondering if Jesus meant that one has to enter into his mother's womb a second time to be born again.

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

As seen above, Jesus clearly explained the kind of birth he was talking about. He spoke of two births. One has already happened to us all, but the second needs to happen for us to have eternal life and see the Kingdom of God.

The first birth which we have all experienced is the "born of water" spoken of by Jesus. We humans were all born of water. Ever heard the phrase "a woman's water is broken"? That happens when she gives birth.

Jesus spoke of a second birth which the "born of the spirit." It is that one that needs to now happen to us for us to see the kingdom of God.

Explaining both births again, Jesus made it clear that born of water is the flesh birth which our parents had of us, while born of spirit is spirit birth.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Now that we know how we can be born of the flesh or of water, which we have already experienced, how do we become born of the spirit?

We become born of the spirit by simply believing in Jesus Christ as our Lord and Saviour according to John 3:16.

John 1:12 KJV
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

As seen above, once we believe and accept Jesus, we become the sons of God who is a Spirit (God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth John 4:24).

God sent Jesus to redeem us so that we can be adopted into his family as sons just as Jesus is a Son of God.

Galatians 4:4-5 KJV
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

Basically, our parents gave birth to us which is the first birth called born of water or flesh birth. This makes us the children of our parents. When we accept and believe in Jesus Christ, we experience the second birth which is born of spirit. This second birth makes us the children of God. This gives us the right to see the Kingdom of God our Father just as we had the right to enter our earthly father's house.

Just as we carry the DNA of our parents, we also carry something that makes us the children of God. That thing is the Holy Spirit.

What our parents gave birth to sins a lot. We sin today because we inherited a sinful nature from our parents who inherited it from Adam.

The Good News is that what God gives birth to doesn't sin. This explains why Jesus Christ never sinned. This is why we that we are his brothers and also sons of God like him never sin.

You might say, "But I saw brother B sinning the other day." Who you saw sinning is who his parents gave birth to which inherited a sinful nature. But that which God gave birth to inside of him doesn't sin.

1 John 3:9 KJV
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

The reason why Brother B who committed a sin yesterday is not regarded as a sinner before God is because it wasn't his spirit which has been possessed and purchased by the Holy Spirit of God that committed that sin. The sin was committed by the flesh which his parents gave birth to which is prone to sin. That's why the Bible said...

1 John 1:8 KJV
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Ecclesiastes 7:20 KJV
For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

Our parents sin, so what they give birth to will always sin. God doesn't sin, so what he gives birth to can't sin. God sent his son to save us from our sins so we won't be sinners in his eyes anymore regardless of what we do.

The key is to believe Jesus is the one to pay for your sins, which he has done already, only if you believe he has.

Thank you.

70% correct. I'm happy you believe that what people call born again today is a lie.
I was so happy when you mentioned Jesus conversation with Nicodemus.
Born again means to be born of water and spirit.
What you got wrong is what it means to be born of water. That one actually means Baptism. Do you know that Jesus didn't become the Christ until he was baptized? If he had died before he got baptized, his death could have meant nothing to us. So, he was born by water at baptism. To be born of spirit is not even our choice but we must show ourselves worthy by doing what you said believing in Jesus as the son of God and doing the will of God.
God chooses those he baptized by the spirit.

Remember Pentecost 33CE, those who received the holy spirit in that upper room, did they choose themselves to be born again? See? They were all baptized (Born by water) and with that God chose those he wants by birthing them with the holy spirit.

Thanks for your effort. God bless you.

diridiri:

pastor chris is the king of all fraudulent pastors
watch as he come on podium start preaching about "healthy marriage life" when he couldn't even keep his own wife

see fatality.

Lord, please forgive this brother. cos he knows not what he's doing.

thank you, father. ❤

Crunchyg2:

Can we talk about this your situation on whatsapp? If you don't mind

Your number?

alBHAGDADI:


Heaven is sure for those who believe in Jesus Christ. That is what John 3:16 says. It says eternal life is given to them for believing.

John 3:16 KJV
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

The below verse assures those who are alive today that they already have eternal life. Why? Because they believe in Jesus Christ.


1 John 5:13 KJV
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Hmmmmmm,,,,in as much as it is written......


Not withstanding only God knows those who will inherit his Kingdom.....

That which u may not consider as Sin might be a SIN before GOD......

So many Pastors May not make Heaven.......

Always pray for Grace......


On the Last day we shall know where we belong....

The guy wrote a lot of crab here, many of which are a product from his pastors and teachers of the supposed Gospel.

But filter what you read and see the erroneous path this article is leading.
For instance how can you say been born of water is to born by a woman.

Or
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The reason why Brother B who committed a sin yesterday is not regarded as a sinner before God is because it wasn't his spirit which has been possessed and purchased by the Holy Spirit of God that committed that sin. The sin was committed by the flesh which his parents gave birth to which is prone to sin.

Maximus85:


70% correct. I'm happy you believe that what people call born again today is a lie.
I was so happy when you mentioned Jesus conversation with Nicodemus.
Born again means to be born of water and spirit.
What you got wrong is what it means to be born of water. That one actually means Baptism. Do you know that Jesus didn't become the Christ until he was baptized? If he had died before he got baptized, his death could have meant nothing to us. So, he was born by water at baptism. To be born of spirit is not even our choice but we must show ourselves worthy by doing what you said believing in Jesus as the son of God and doing the will of God.
God chooses those he baptized by the spirit.

Remember Pentecost 33CE, those who received the holy spirit in that upper room, did they choose themselves to be born again? See? They were all baptized (Born by water) and with that God chose those he wants by birthing them with the holy spirit.

Thanks for your effort. God bless you.

Here comes a Jehovah's False Witness to pluck away what God has sowed.

Being born of water is not water baptism. Stop being a blind bat. Jesus clearly explained that Born of Water is flesh birth.

John 3:6
That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Also, it cannot be water baptism because the Bible says we get saved not by any effort of ourselves but by God's grace through faith.

Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.

But a lying false witness like you is saying we have to get baptized and do other things, which are basically works based salvation. Jesus did it all, we do t add anything to the salvation work. That's exactly what Ephesians 2:8-9 is saying.

You also said that we have to do the will of God to be born again. How foolish you are. Look, the will of God is to believe or have faith in Jesus. Simple.

John 6:40 KJV
And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Donspicey:



Hmmmmmm,,,,in as much as it is written......


Not withstanding only God knows those who will inherit his Kingdom.....

That which u may not consider as Sin might be a SIN before GOD......

So many Pastors May not make Heaven.......

Always pray for Grace......


On the Last day we shall know where we belong....

It is not only God that knows who will inherit his kingdom. We whom he has saved and given eternal life also know. That is what the verse is saying.

1 John 5:13 KJV
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Romans 8:17
And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him , that we may be also glorified together.

Harvesttony:
Who taught such message ie to be born of water is to be born by a woman. Jesus did say to be born of water and the holy spirit. He didn't justify Nicodemus as been born of water already. But emphasized that he must be born of both water and the spirit.

Just so you know the water birth refers to water baptism; even Christ was baptized. You can't begin your journey with Christ with First been baptized.

Don't mind the guy writing gilberish and the mumu applauding him. The entire household of the jailer who accepted the good news of Christ were baptized in the dead of the night after he has received the good news of Christ (Acts. 16:33]. If baptism wasn't necessary, the whole household won't need baptism at the dead of the night from a man that was sneaked out. These guys alway manufactures their own scripture.

Harvesttony:
Who taught such message ie to be born of water is to be born by a woman. Jesus did say to be born of water and the holy spirit. He didn't justify Nicodemus as been born of water already. But emphasized that he must be born of both water and the spirit.

Just so you know the water birth refers to water baptism; even Christ was baptized. You can't begin your journey with Christ with First been baptized.

Water birth is not baptism, Mr Jehovah's False Witness. Jesus himself told Nicodemus that it means carnal birth, flesh birth or the birth by our parents.

John 3:6
That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

After that, he said we have to be born by God to see the kingdom.

tete7000:


Don't mind the guy writing gilberish and the mumu applauding him. The entire household of the jailer who accepted the good news of Christ were baptized in the dead of the night after he has received the good news of Christ (Acts. 16:33]. If baptism wasn't necessary, the whole household won't need baptism at the dead of the night from a man that was sneaked out. These guys alway manufactures their own scripture.

Baptism plays no role in salvation. It's just a picture of the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. It's also a way of showing believers that we identify with them. It doesn't save.

When the Bible told us how we got saved, did it mention below that water baptism is part of the equation? Did it mention that works and efforts are part of the equation. No.

It simply said it is Grace through faith, nothing else. See below.

Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.

kuonbe:
. Oga born again Christan don't even think of porn ,. not even clicking it to watch

na Devil workshop be dat

lies!

GOTVee:
Even though I'm a born again Christian, I believe I will never make heaven. I have sinned and fall short of the glory of God despite being a born again Christian for 25 years now

Lol, this Gotv guy again, today i will address ur confusion.
The law of emotions states that " A stronger emotion will dominate and overide a weaker emotion, and which ever you concentrate on grows and become stronger.
Negative emotions undermines ur happiness and self confidence, making u weaker and less effective in other areas of ur life.
But the law of concentration states" whatever u dwell upon grows and increases in ur life".
Brother U need to change the way u think by activating the law of substitution which states " Ur mind can hold only one thought at a time, which is +ve or -ve". U can substitute now ur -ve thoughts with a +ve one.
As long as u r still breathing there is hope, even the thieve on the cross got saved at the last minute.

alBHAGDADI:

This is an interesting read.


Today, many people take being born again to mean different things other than what the Bible says it means.

The Bible says "...except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

But when some people talk about being born again, they mean someone who has repented from his sins and doesn't sin again. This is quite wrong because so many verses tell us that we are all sinners and that anyone who says he's without sin is a liar.

1 John 1:8 KJV
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Ecclesiastes 7:20 KJV
For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

As seen above, we are all sinners even when we are righteous. So, how come some people think a born again person is someone who has repented from his sins or doesn't sin? It's because they have believed the wrong gospel.

So, who is a born again person and how did he attain it? Do you remember that conversation Nicodemus had with Jesus?

John 3:3-6 KJV
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

At this point, Nicodemus was wondering if Jesus meant that one has to enter into his mother's womb a second time to be born again.

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

As seen above, Jesus clearly explained the kind of birth he was talking about. He spoke of two births. One has already happened to us all, but the second needs to happen for us to have eternal life and see the Kingdom of God.

The first birth which we have all experienced is the "born of water" spoken of by Jesus. We humans were all born of water. Ever heard the phrase "a woman's water is broken"? That happens when she gives birth.

Jesus spoke of a second birth which the "born of the spirit." It is that one that needs to now happen to us for us to see the kingdom of God.

Explaining both births again, Jesus made it clear that born of water is the flesh birth which our parents had of us, while born of spirit is spirit birth.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Now that we know how we can be born of the flesh or of water, which we have already experienced, how do we become born of the spirit?

We become born of the spirit by simply believing in Jesus Christ as our Lord and Saviour according to John 3:16.

John 1:12 KJV
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

As seen above, once we believe and accept Jesus, we become the sons of God who is a Spirit (God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth John 4:24).

God sent Jesus to redeem us so that we can be adopted into his family as sons just as Jesus is a Son of God.

Galatians 4:4-5 KJV
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

Basically, our parents gave birth to us which is the first birth called born of water or flesh birth. This makes us the children of our parents. When we accept and believe in Jesus Christ, we experience the second birth which is born of spirit. This second birth makes us the children of God. This gives us the right to see the Kingdom of God our Father just as we had the right to enter our earthly father's house.

Just as we carry the DNA of our parents, we also carry something that makes us the children of God. That thing is the Holy Spirit.

What our parents gave birth to sins a lot. We sin today because we inherited a sinful nature from our parents who inherited it from Adam.

The Good News is that what God gives birth to doesn't sin. This explains why Jesus Christ never sinned. This is why we that we are his brothers and also sons of God like him never sin.

You might say, "But I saw brother B sinning the other day." Who you saw sinning is who his parents gave birth to which inherited a sinful nature. But that which God gave birth to inside of him doesn't sin.

1 John 3:9 KJV
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

The reason why Brother B who committed a sin yesterday is not regarded as a sinner before God is because it wasn't his spirit which has been possessed and purchased by the Holy Spirit of God that committed that sin. The sin was committed by the flesh which his parents gave birth to which is prone to sin. That's why the Bible said...

1 John 1:8 KJV
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Ecclesiastes 7:20 KJV
For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

Our parents sin, so what they give birth to will always sin. God doesn't sin, so what he gives birth to can't sin. God sent his son to save us from our sins so we won't be sinners in his eyes anymore regardless of what we do.

The key is to believe Jesus is the one to pay for your sins, which he has done already, only if you believe he has.

Thank you.

I admire your zeal in talking about born again but all what you wrote has nothing to do with being born again. In fact you have no idea what it means.


In a Nutshell:

The Jews were born as a nation at Mount Sinai, and became God's people when they entered into the covenant with God. The entire nation, "every man of Israel," including the little ones, and their wives, were included in that covenant, "for the purpose of establishing you today as his people and that he may prove himself your God." (Deut. 29:10-13) That covenant was made with Abraham's offspring for the purpose of producing the future promised Seed, thereby safeguarding the lineage through which the Messiah would come, and by means of whom "all nations of the earth will certainly bless themselves," according to God's promise to Abraham. (Gen. 22:16-18; Matt. 1:1-16; Luke 3:23-34)

God also foretold that once this covenant had produced the promised Seed, he would replace it with a new and better covenant that would include people of all the nations, rendering the former old covenant obsolete. Nicodemus, a leader and teacher among the Jews, should have been familiar with God's promise of a new covenant, as foretold by the prophet Jeremiah. (Jer. 31:31-34; Heb. 8:7-9, 13) When he failed to get the sense of Jesus' words, "You people must be born again," Jesus criticized him: "Are you a teacher of Israel and yet do not know these things?" (John 3:7, 9,10) Clearly, not only Nicodemus, but all the Jews should have been in expectation of the Messiah, including God's promise of making a new covenant with them.

Being God's people under the old covenant, the Jews needed to be "born again" by being brought into the new covenant, upon termination of the old covenant. But how could they be born again if they rejected the mediator of that new covenant? (Heb. 9:13-15) Only by entering into the new covenant could they inherit the promise that God long ago had made them: "And you yourselves will become to me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation." (Exodus 19:5,6) That is why Jesus said to Nicodemus: "Unless anyone is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." (John 3:3)

When Jesus told Nicodemus that "anyone" [of you people, the Jews] must be born "again" in order to see the kingdom of God, he was not referring to "people of the nations," the Gentiles, who had not been previously in the old covenant, but who were "alienated from the state of Israel and strangers to the covenants of the promise." (Eph. 2:11-18; Matt. 15:24) Yet, through their faith in Jesus, people of the nations could now also become God's people, under the new covenant; no, not as proselytes as before, but as genuine "sons of God." (Rom. 10:12; Gal. 3:26; Eph. 2:19-22; 1 John 3:9; 5:1) Both Jews and Gentiles are equally "born from God" upon their baptism in water, in obedience to Jesus' command, and at which time they receive "the free gift of the holy spirit." Thus they are all "born from water and spirit." This was true also in Jesus' own case. (Matt. 3:16,17; 28:19; compare Acts 2:38; 8:14-17; 10:47; 11:15-17; 19:1-6; 1 Peter 3:21) It is only by means of this new covenant that anyone can enjoy a personal relationship with Jehovah, our heavenly Father, just as he foretold, "'I will become their God, and they themselves will become my people." (Jer. 31:33; Acts 15:14-18)

God's people are his temple, "a place for God to inhabit by spirit." (Eph. 2:21,22; 3:5,6; 1 Cor. 3:16,17) As long as he remains faithful he is assured of inheriting God's kingdom, which is the everlasting life that God promised, and that Jesus spoke of to Nicodemus. (John 3:16; Jude 21; Heb. 6:4-6; Matt. 13:40-43) The vast majority of mankind will live right here on earth, according to God's original purpose when he created Adam and told him to "fill the earth and subdue it". A small number, a "little flock", is chosen by God from among mankind to rule with Jesus in his heavenly kingdom, which will "break up the works of the Devil" and bring blessings to all mankind, including the resurrection of "the righteous and the unrighteous." This is what God's covenant with Abraham will have accomplished. (Daniel 7:13,14, 27; Matt. 5:5; 6:10; 19:27,28; Luke 12:32; 1 Cor. 15:21-28; 1 John 3:8; Rev. 3:21; 5:9-10; 20:6)

Summary:

• "Born again" does not refer to some sort of spiritual resurrection.

• The nation of Israel was born as God's people at Mount Sinai when God made the covenant with them, with Moses as the mediator, "for the purpose of establishing you today as his people and that he may prove himself your God." (Deut. 29:12,13)

• God foretold: "Look! There are days coming and I will conclude with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah a new covenant; not one like the covenant that I concluded with their forefathers ... I will put my law within them, and in their heart I shall write it. And I will become their God, and they themselves will become my people." (Jer. 31:31-33; Heb. 8:6-13) Please note, with the new covenant they would renew their relationship with God as his people; he would become their God again, and they his people again.

• The foretold new covenant became operative on the day of Pentecost, with Jesus as the mediator, when the holy spirit was poured out upon the 120 disciples. (Acts 2:1-42; Heb. 9:13-15, 18-22)

• Isaiah's prophecy was fulfilled on Pentecost: "Before she began to come into labor pains she gave birth. Before birth pangs could come to her, she even gave deliverance to a male child. Who has heard of a thing like this? Who has seen things like these? Will a land be brought forth with labor pains in one day? Or will a nation be born at one time? For Zion has come into labor pains as well as given birth to her sons." (Isaiah 66:7, The Jews, who exercised faith in the mediator Christ Jesus, became the nation that was born at one time, in one day. They were thus born again, again becoming God's people while He again became their God. The Jews who rejected the mediator of the new covenant no longer were God's covenant people. (Paul, in his letter to the Galatians, illustrates the two covenants by comparing them to the birth of Hagar's son Ishmael and Sarah's son Isaac. ―See Gal. 4:21-31; Rom. 10:1-4; Heb. 8:13)

Nicodemus, as a teacher of Israel, should have known these prophecies, as Jesus indicated to him. (John 3:9,10) When he went to visit Jesus that night, he had the privilege of being instructed by the mediator of the new covenant. This is what Jesus was impressing on him.

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The terms "born again" and "new birth" are not interchangeable. They do not refer to the same thing! Whereas "born again" applied to the Jews in the first century, who were in the old covenant but needed to be brought into the new covenant upon the termination of the old covenant (as discussed above); the "new birth," mentioned by Peter, refers to those of Jesus' disciples who will rule with him in his heavenly kingdom. (1 Peter 1:3-5) This hope of going to heaven is something new, for it did not exist prior to Jesus' time. It remained God's "sacred secret" (mystery) until the time when it began to be fulfilled, starting with the choosing of the twelve apostles and applies only to the ones who are chosen by God, the number of which will eventually total 144,000. (Rev. 14:1, 3; Rom. 16:25,26; 1 Cor. 2:7) Even John the Baptist, the greatest "among those born of women," was not among these, nor did he know anything about this new hope reserved for them. (Matt. 11:11; 25:34-46) All of God's people are "born from water and spirit," but they do not all have the "new birth."

tete7000:


Don't mind the guy writing gilberish and the mumu applauding him. The entire household of the jailer who accepted the good news of Christ were baptized in the dead of the night after he has received the good news of Christ (Acts. 16:33]. If baptism wasn't necessary, the whole household won't need baptism at the dead of the night from a man that was sneaked out. These guys alway manufactures their own scripture.

He has the right to his opinion and doesn't warrant this insult from you.

[b]Water baptism [/b]symbolizes the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ and the identification of the believer with Him in those events.

Even after supporting his arguments with biblical facts, you and your lots are trying hard to create confusion.

All this lengthy things you wrote and you missed the points in Jesus' conversation with Nicodemus.

As we have no choice about physical birth so we don't have over being born again...

God does the selection by means of his holy spirit. It is not a personal decision.. GOD selects those who are born again..


Please stop posting thrash and misleading the public

Thank you.

That born of the water is baptism. That why in the book of Act 2:37 when the peter and the rest of the apostle where preaching on the day of Pentecost then the multitudes ask peter and rest of the apostle on what to do to be save then peter reply repent and be baptize and that day 3,000 people undergo water baptism