AlexBells:

Then why is Nigeria still using a semblance of the same system till this day, isn't that slavery, why can't the whole country change what a single or few Igbo men put in place if it were really that bad

These are the reasons:
1) The Fulani who inherited the skewed system which the Ibos created share the same desire as the Ibos (the subjugation of other ethnicities).
2) The Yoruba elites who are the major factor that can reverse the system back to what was agreed upon, are at the moment not up to the task because the Fulani has the backing of the English.
3) The Yoruba masses who should be a source of support to their elites so as to put an end to this cursed system, are currently under psychological attack from massive Ibo propaganda. The Ibos PRETEND to want out of Nigeria by their incessant cry of marginalization and fraud Biafra agitation. This psychological war strategy has made it difficult for the Yoruba masses to realise that Nigeria currently favours only the Igbos (economically) and Fulani (Politically).

GBTYO:
Alexbells, you Igbos are now at forefront pushing a more dangerous Marxist plot teleguided by the NWO .

Your Ngozi is at the very center of this Judaic plot to enslave mankind just as we also have your Igbo brother in NCDC pushing this Covid scam



This time around you may not survive the backlash.


And you sound like an Igbo supremascist with a condensceding view and attitude on the ND and her people.

This isn't surprising as this was how you looked down on our people in the defunct Eastern region but it is now compounded by Igbo Jewish nonesense heritage which makes you assume you are of the chosen few.

This is the most dangerous aspect of IPOB as it has instilled in you Igbos a supremascist ideology .

It will not end well.

I believe in the equality of all of mankind, I'm not a Maxist or any of Ziks school of thoughts, I'm not trying to rope the Niger Delta tribes into subdue so as to advance any Igbo supremacist agenda.

I'm a firm believer in humanity and believes in the sanctity and value of every human live, I see the Niger Delta tribes as my neighbours and brothers, I respect their people and also their kingdom, I just want a sane society where every people and their heritage is protected and valued

AdekunleScience:
These are the reasons:
1) The Fulani who inherited the skewed system which the Ibos created share the same desire as the Ibos (the subjugation of other ethnicities).
2) The Yoruba elites who are the major factor that can reverse the system back to what was agreed upon, are at the moment not up to the task because the Fulani has the backing of the English.
3) The Yoruba masses who should be a source of support to their elites so as to put an end to this cursed system, are currently under psychological attack from massive Ibo propaganda. The Ibos PRETEND to want out of Nigeria by their incessant cry of marginalization and fraud Biafra agitation. This psychological war strategy has made it difficult for the Yoruba masses to realise that Nigeria currently favours only the Igbos (economically) and Fulani (Politically).

Good point so if I as an Igbo wish to make a difference, what do you advise I do, but before you advice me, I want you to understand that Southern Unity to me is unworkable

This is how foolish Igbos respond when they are challenged with the truth but let them be faced with you have little knowledge about happenings in those era n you see them acting like they were saint and not the main cause of all Nigeria problems. Yeye set of monkeys. Imagine this clown telling someone his hating on Igbos ? The same Igbos that nurtured the unborn offspring from the womb with irredeemable hate, chronic bigotry and excessive foolishness.

AlexBells:

I had always know that in the bid to build a peaceful region that we might once in a while run across sworn haters.

Why is everything centered on your oil, last time I checked, the coup did not even take any life in the Niger Delta, why are you in particular hating on the Igbos even more than the Fulanis whom their son Tafawa was killed, how could you be so much into the past that you cant look your own generation in the face and make a change.

Those are generations back and back, why do you hate on our generation because of the steps of the past, in our bid to foster peace in the Region we had endured but this generation of Igbos are different, we won't just fight to keep Nigeria one but we would go out one on one with any tribe or individual which does not want to give peace a try.

leokid866:

please why didn't you table this before your brother jona I would really like to hear his views on this.

The guy who made the thread should be the one to answer the question as I guess he is Ijaw like Jonathan, I'm Igbo

Front0lane:
This is how foolish Igbos respond when they are challenged with the truth but let them be faced with you have little knowledge about happenings in those era n you see them acting like they were saint and not the main cause of all Nigeria problems. Yeye set of monkeys. Imagine this clown telling someone his hating on Igbos ? The same Igbos that nurtured the unborn offspring from the womb with irredeemable hate, chronic bigotry and excessive foolishness.

Let's pretend that you are right, are you suggest that I face a punishment for whatever that might have happened long before I was born ??, does it look like I'm hating on any tribe, I'm of age and I will hate you with the hate you give me not on the basis of the stories they told me, so what do you got, to stretch a hand of friendship or draw the sword of hate, anyone you bring I'm quite ready as far as you don't bring the two at ones

Indeed beating your hairy chest as always. So other tribes do not have men stationed to take Nigeria economy when the time is right ba ? Na only Igbo get men. You people too de reason like lunatic abeg. If ww start with what section or % of the economy Igbos have those lousy noise maker you talked about one will see how insignificant your entire tribe is then n now.

AlexBells:

Igbos have lots of men stationed to take over the Nigerian economy once the time is right, A few policy change could make Dangote see competition in his monopolised sector and when that happens you will see people like Ibeto, Innoson, Choscharis, Peace Air all topping the chat.

tollyboy5:

If we continue like this we won't get anything tangible. Igbo playing victimized won't stop Lagos from progressing, lets leave all these things. I believe Yoruba race has a better vision but we're loosing focus due to our greedy leaders.
They're all after becoming president

Bad leadership is not exclusive to Yorubaland. The focus which we've lost is that while envious and covetous outsiders altered the political system, usually with force, so that their poor regions and people could share in the revenue from our homeland, majority of us never cared.

Enugu no de collect federal allocation now. Na Biafra allocation e de collect. Abi Awo did not pay Enugu the allocation due to it all tru the entirety of the foolish war you Igbos plunged Nigeria into. Did you n your father not end up paying same Awo with hate scorn n even foolishness ?!

AlexBells:

You are now being Sentimental you know lol, Nigeria will not break up, maybe not anytime soon, but Igbos are not scared of staying alone, instatehood there is something called stability, Igboland is already reaching stability, we have enough schools already, soon we will have enough airport as we jointly share Ownership and use of PH international airports and we also have Enugu international airport and more are under construction.

Soon Igboland will not need to build new infrastructures again rather going for aesthetics and more edging technologies, that's what you should understand we don't have this need to take over or dominate anyone but[b] the settings in Igboland gives competitive edge that's why it seems like we are dominating.[/b]

What more can be built in Igbolabd that had not been built, we don't really expect the federal government to build the Onitsha port because there are other more viable ports but due to its Igbo we get considered, Do we really need a second Niger Bridge.

Soon you will find out that once the roads in Igboland are built, then Igboland will not need much investment to grow, I already told you how [b]Enugu was not built with Eastern Region funds, [/b]Igboland is self sustaining, where most cities are still struggling With Moluwe, Enugu is already Enjoying Indigenous IVM cruise, that's what the East is about simple, classy and self sustaining

The emboldened make I de look you fool your father's in their grave. We are talking about Igbos escaping Igboland land in drove to places like Osun Zamfara yet one igbo clown is hear boasting about his tribe's foolishness.

If the Igbos refuse to aknowledge their roles in the past as long distant memory that need to be forgotten, then why do you keep disturbing us with your Biafra aggitation that is a product of same era?


Alexbells can you reconcile this bitter hypocrisy on the part of you Igbos ?

Front0lane:
Indeed beating your hairy chest as always. So other tribes do not have men stationed to take Nigeria economy when the time is right ba ? Na only Igbo get men. You people too de reason like lunatic abeg. If ww start with what section or % of the economy Igbos have those lousy noise maker you talked about one will see how insignificant your entire tribe is then n now.

Why are you now complaining about how Igbos are doing this and that in Lagos, you could have first looked at what I replied to, and why I made the assertion, how could Dangote be selling his Cement at #2500 in Nigeria but selling it at about #1100 in ghana, if competition is allowed for cement don't you think other manufacturers will be given a chance and a healthy competition is going to arise for the good of the people, is not government policy that had ensured Dangote monopoly, why would only Dangote and a few others be given access through Nigerian border while other are not, the day Nigeria get fixed many things are going to change from our industries to the banking and finance sector, other services sector too, Nigeria won't be bad forever

GBTYO:
If the Igbos refuse to aknowledge their roles in the past as long distant memory that need to be forgotten, then why do you keep disturbing us with your Biafra aggitation that is a product of same era?


Alexbells can you reconcile this bitter hypocrisy on the part of you Igbos ?

I'm telling you that if I must speak for myself, Igbos don't need Biafra, My Very Good Ijaw friend by name Storm once told me, it is time for the Igbos to drop the victim card, Biafra was a victim card played by the Igbos and today I can tell you myself and a lot other young Igbos out there do not share the ideology of Biafra, Biafra had outlived its usefulness, We have to rise to the challenges of a new modern Nigeria. We are no longer the Victim but a very proud set of Igbos (what I call Igbo Renaissance) who believes a lot in Nigeria but more so we believe in the right and independence of every group, ethnic group or individuals, if Nigeria is going to ever break which I currently don't wish for, I prefer and want a Republic of Igboland

Alexbells if Igboland is so self sustaining why is it so difficult for you Igbos to talk of a separate nation without the ND?

I will let you know that the east is as parasitic as the north .


Your states are barely functioning despite the huge allocations received from the Federal purse despite adding next to nothing to it.

Ebonyi State has borrowed so much money from Sukok banks in lieu of Oil receipts from the Niger Delta that it can be considered to be now owned by these Sharia banks.

The only way Ebonyi can repay that loan is through federal allocation which the FG is serving as guarrantor
Same thing with failed states like Osun which are owned by the banks


Buhari is approving loans for both eastern and western states so as to make them bonded fully in the Nigerian project.

SW and SE dare not leave Nigeria since there is no way to pay their huge loans.

It is through this financial baiting that the north is using to guareantree your allegiance to one Nigeria.

Every other thing nah wash.


And as I said earlier in another thread, Igbos will align with the fulani to stop the seccesion of Niger Delta from Nigeria

You did it before in 1966 and so we expect nothing less from you.

No reasonable igbo person or Nigerian will be against decree 34 it's Nigeria's best decree

GBTYO:
Alexbells if Igboland is so self sustaining why is it so difficult for you Igbos to talk of a separate nation without the ND?

I will let you know that the east is as parasitic as the north .


Your states are barely functioning despite the huge allocations received from the Federal purse despite adding next to nothing to it.

Ebonyi State has borrowed so much money from Sukok banks in lieu of Oil receipts from the Niger Delta that it can be considered to be now owned by these Sharia banks.

The only way Ebonyi can repay that loan is through federal allocation which the FG is serving as guarrantor
Same thing with failed states like Osun which are owned by the banks


Buhari is approving loans for both eastern and western states so as to make them bonded fully in the Nigerian project.

SW and SE dare not leave Nigeria since there is no way to pay their huge loans.

It is through this financial baiting that the north is using to guareantree your allegiance to one Nigeria.

Every other thing nah wash.


And as I said earlier in another thread, Igbos will align with the fulani to stop the seccesion of Niger Delta from Nigeria

You did it before in 1966 and so we expect nothing less from you.

First the last statistic released shows Ebonyi State proudly in the blue state, so drop that your claim and embrace facts, the only Igbo state in the Red list is Abia, South East still have more cash in circulation than any other region, south East have the strongest middle class, all these are verifiable facts, so what are you even saying

GBTYO:
Of all the decrees enacted in Nigeria, none is more controversial than Decree No 34 of 1966. It was promulgated on May 24, 1966 by then Head of State, Major General Johnson Thomas Umunnakwe Aguiyi-Ironsi (1924-1966) . It was called Unification Decree while some critics at that time labelled it the De-unification Decree.
It was the decree that started the death of regionalism – an issue which is still generating controversy till now. Although the next head of State General Yakubu Gowon repealed the Decree 34 on August 31, 1966 through Decree 9, a large portion of the Decree is still effective till today.
General Gowon further compounded it by promulgating Decree 14 of 1967 which broke Nigeria into 12 states and provided for military governors for each state. With Decrees 34, 8 and 14 regionalism was finally buried.

Decree No 34 was never controversial except for people in the same level of intellectualism as you. Decree No 34 established a sense of uniform in public service and a categorized levels for civil servants. It is ironic that the categorized civil servant system established by Decree No 34 is being used in Nigeria till this date. The Decree No 34 snatched away the nepotistic template used by the native authorities to fill the public service with their cronies especially in northern and western regions. The opposition for Decree No 34 stemmed from fear and hatred the people from certain parts of Nigeria had for the Ndigbo. They foolishly theorized it was a mean which Ndigbo baked to dominate Nigeria. Decree No 34 has nothing to do with silly theory of unitary government but merely unification of public service.

gidgiddy:
Resisting a decree in military rule? You can only do that by taking up arms.

Besides, Decree 34 did not change the structural arrangement of Nigeria. All it did was unify the civil service

Isn't civil service structure a reflection of government structure ?

AlexBells:

Good point so if I as an Igbo wish to make a difference, what do you advise I do, but before you advice me, I want you to understand that Southern Unity to me is unworkable

Encourage your folks to cease their deceptive cry of marginalization and their greedy desire for a mini Nigeria, where they hope to subjugate the ethnic minorities of the Nigeria Delta . Support Regionalism or demand for a sovereign HOMOGENEOUS Igbo nation. As for your last statement, my response is that I am a citizen of Yoruba nation one of the many nations that make up the country Nigeria and I don't give a damn about any Southern rubbish.

You just cheery picked the clause that suited you argument.

What of the end of regional governance and in it's place a powerful military dictatorship ?


You Igbo people

Dedetwo:



Decree No 34 was never controversial except for people in the same level of intellectualism as you. Decree No 34 established a sense of uniform in public service and a categorized levels for civil servants. It is ironic that the categorized civil servant system established by Decree No 34 is being used in Nigeria till this date. The Decree No 34 snatched away the nepotistic template used by the native authorities to fill the public service with their cronies especially in northern and western regions. The opposition for Decree No 34 stemmed from fear and hated the people from certain parts of Nigeria had for the Ndigbo. They foolishly theorized it was a mean which Ndigbo baked to dominate Nigeria. Decree No 34 has nothing to do with silly theory of unitary government but merely unification of public service.

An Igbo who does not support Igbo independence proves all I have posted that you Igbos are not interested in your own ethno state.

You need Nigeria more than Nigeria needs you.

AlexBells:

I'm telling you that if I must speak for myself, Igbos don't need Biafra, My Very Good Ijaw friend by name Storm once told me, it is time for the Igbos to drop the victim card, Biafra was a victim card played by the Igbos and today I can tell you myself and a lot other young Igbos out there do not share the ideology of Biafra, Biafra had outlived its usefulness, We have to rise to the challenges of a new modern Nigeria. We are no longer the Victim but a very proud set of Igbos (what I call Igbo Renaissance) who believes a lot in Nigeria but more so we believe in the right and independence of every group, ethnic group or individuals, if Nigeria is going to ever break which I currently don't wish for, I prefer and want a Republic of Igboland

AdekunleScience:
Encourage your folks to cease their deceptive cry of marginalization and their greedy desire for a mini Nigeria, where they hope to subjugate the ethnic minorities of the Nigeria Delta . Support Regionalism or demand for a sovereign HOMOGENEOUS Igbo nation. As for your last statement, my response is that I am a citizen of Yoruba nation one of the many nations that make up the country Nigeria and I don't give a damn about any Southern rubbish.

The igbo will never support fiscal autonomy .


That is the reason why they carried out the Jan 15 coup .

With COR region about to be created just as mid western was carved out from western Nigeria, the Igbos out of greed to control the newly discovered oil wells staged a coup and ushered in their decree 34 .


This is the truth.

AdekunleScience:
Encourage your folks to cease their deceptive cry of marginalization and their greedy desire for a mini Nigeria, where they hope to subjugate the ethnic minorities of the Nigeria Delta . Support Regionalism or demand for a sovereign HOMOGENEOUS Igbo nation. As for your last statement, my response is that I am a citizen of Yoruba nation one of the many nations that make up the country Nigeria and I don't give a damn about any Southern rubbish.

Thanks for your advice, I would also wish to point out you that Igboland does not share any common boundary with Yoruba land, as such the Issue of within the Niger Delta will be settled as one between neighbours and you of all people knows that Igbos was forced to pick Biafra and Igbos will be the last people to really wish for an end to Nigeria, why do we keep going back to the North if we don't believe in Nigeria or even buying land in far away Lagos if we dont believe in Nigeria. If tomorrow the unfurnate happens and Nigeria breaks, we are going to declare an Igbo republic without any tribe in the Niger Delta but we will also not recognise a Niger Delta republic as we will support for the break down of Niger Delta into smaller kingdom states, any tribe that wish to willingly join Igboland will be free or be our territory, for the very really smaller ones who would prefer a stronger passport, international recognition and believes in the Igbo, that's what could happen if Nigeria stops existing but we don't ever pray for that

GBTYO:
Alexbells if Igboland is so self sustaining why is it so difficult for you Igbos to talk of a separate nation without the ND?

I will let you know that the east is as parasitic as the north .


Your states are barely functioning despite the huge allocations received from the Federal purse despite adding next to nothing to it.

Ebonyi State has borrowed so much money from Sukok banks in lieu of Oil receipts from the Niger Delta that it can be considered to be now owned by these Sharia banks.

The only way Ebonyi can repay that loan is through federal allocation which the FG is serving as guarrantor
Same thing with failed states like Osun which are owned by the banks


Buhari is approving loans for both eastern and western states so as to make them bonded fully in the Nigerian project.

SW and SE dare not leave Nigeria since there is no way to pay their huge loans.

It is through this financial baiting that the north is using to guareantree your allegiance to one Nigeria.

Every other thing nah wash.


And as I said earlier in another thread, Igbos will align with the fulani to stop the seccesion of Niger Delta from Nigeria

You did it before in 1966 and so we expect nothing less from you.

The bold clarified you as a typical Nigerian. They fly funny certificates yet they cannot decipher elementary geography. The silly ND in post, I hoped remotely meant Niger Delta, has Igbo land is integral part of it. I personally canvased and will continue to seek the Republic of Igbo land. Many idiots in Nigeria always think of crude oil as if it starts and ends the world. There are super economies in the world without a pint of crude oil. In 10 years time, Nigeria and its crude oil shall be rendered irrelevant. The northern elites are on the verge of completing a strategic plan where crude oil shall be siphoned to Niger Republic from Nigeria for storage which caution the economic blow from the change to electricity as readily source of power instead of fossil fuel. I guess you keep dwelling on the silly Niger Delta.

GBTYO:

An Igbo who does not support Igbo independence proves all I have posted that you Igbos are not interested in your own ethno state.

You need Nigeria more than Nigeria needs you.

Yes put it how you may, I have made myself clear, you can't always have it your way

GBTYO:

You just cheery picked the clause that suited you argument.

What of the end of regional governance and in it's place a powerful military dictatorship ?


You Igbo people

Have you seen dreamt of any fool who abolished a regional government yet appoint regional governors? How do Nigerians reason for the sake of posterity? There were the governments of northern, western, eastern and Midwestern regions led by governors appointed by the Ironsi. How on intelligent earth can anybody insinuates the termination of regional governments yet regional governors? Regional government in Nigeria was killed by the creation of states.

Dedetwo:


Have you seen dreamt of any fool who abolished a regional government yet appoint regional governors? How do Nigerians reason for the sake of posterity? There were the governments of northern, western, eastern and Midwestern regions led by governors appointed by the Ironsi. How on intelligent earth can anybody insinuates the termination of regional governments yet regional governors? Regional government in Nigeria was killed by the creation of states.

Shatap

The military governors did not have or excersice powers up to their civilian counterparts

The real power was now firmly under Ironsi as Supreme Military Council chairman.

This was a supreme military dictatorshio under Igbos.

Ironsi defended his decree by stating it was the only way to keep Nigeria one and united.


Can you explain what led to Adaka Boro's movement to leave Nigeria entirely ?

Can you explain why Zik forced Chief Eyo Ita to resign as Speaker of the eastern Parliament and from there have his Igbo majority declare him speaker ?


The Igbos wanted full control of eastern Parliament so as to prevent a motion by the minorities for a new separate province.

Now contrast with how the Yorubas respected themselves and allowed Mid West region to be created out of the western region.


You Igbos can continue lying to yourselves .

Front0lane:
Enugu no de collect federal allocation now. Na Biafra allocation e de collect. Abi Awo did not pay Enugu the allocation due to it all tru the entirety of the foolish war you Igbos plunged Nigeria into. Did you n your father not end up paying same Awo with hate scorn n even foolishness ?!




The emboldened make I de look you fool your father's in their grave. We are talking about Igbos escaping Igboland land in drove to places like Osun Zamfara yet one igbo clown is hear boasting about his tribe's foolishness.

How could we glorify Awo, the mastermind behind the 20 pounds policy, feel all you want, say all you want but just know that, within your heart you may know the truth, some of your people does

GBTYO:


The igbo will never support fiscal autonomy.


That is the reason why they carried out the Jan 15 coup .

With COR region about to be created just as mid western was carved out from western Nigeria, the Igbos out of greed to control the newly discovered oil wells staged a coup and ushered in their decree 34 .


This is the truth.

What nonsensical fiscal autonomy are you about? Ndigbo presently campaigned to secede from entire shithole called Nigeria and you are on this forum talking audio fiscal autonomy. I am not for Biafra but Republic of Igbo land. I do not have any intention to have bunch of fools as compatriots. The last thing I hope for my people is to have a repeat of Nigeria. Never!!!!! However every Igbo son and daughter knows the delimited boundary of Igbo land. It is absolutely non-negotiable.

GBTYO:


Shatap

The military governors did not have or excersice powers up to their civilian counterparts

The real power was now firmly under Ironsi as Supreme Military Council chairman.

This was a supreme military dictatorshio under Igbos.

Ironsi defended his decree by stating it was the only way to keep Nigeria one and united.


Can you explain what led to Adaka Boro's movement to leave Nigeria entirely ?

Can you explain why Zik forced Chief Eyo Ita to resign as Speaker of the eastern Parliament and from there have his Igbo majority declare him speaker ?


The Igbos wanted full control of eastern Parliament so as to prevent a motion by the minorities for a new separate province.

Now contrast with how the Yorubas respected themselves and allowed Mid West region to be created out of the western region.


You Igbos can continue lying to yourselves .

Bro please get your facts straight so that we can have intelligible discussion. Chief Eyo Ita was never a speaker of eastern house of assembly.

Dedetwo:


What nonsensical fiscal autonomy are you about? Ndigbo presently campaigned to secede from entire shithole called Nigeria and you are on this forum talking audio fiscal autonomy. I am not for Biafra but Republic of Igbo land. I have intention to have bunch fools as compatriot. The last thing I hope for my people is to have a repeat of Nigeria. Never!!!!! However every Igbo son and daughter knows the delimited boundary of Igbo land. It is absolutely non-negotiable.

My friend , you dragged the Niger Delta with you in an annexation bid when you lost the center to fulanis .


Why didn't you carry your Igbo parts alone but dragged ND into your madness?


I tell you now that if you had not truncated the regional govt and abolished the autonomous nature of regions, your eastern region which would have shrunk to your five Igbo states would have been the poorest region in Nigeria.

This is why when I tell any of you Igbos to declare your biafra in your 5 contigious states, you begin to insult us in the Niger Delta as a non tribe or inconsequential nation.

Why drag is then into your Judaic Utopia?

Dedetwo:


Bro please get your facts straight so that we can have intelligible discussion. Chief Eyo Ita was never a speaker of eastern house of assembly.

Was he not forced to resign his position because of his support for the creation of Calabar Ogoja- Rivers region?


Keep lying to yourself

GBTYO:


My friend , you dragged the Niger Delta with you in an annexation bid when you lost the center to fulanis .


Why didn't you carry your Igbo parts alone but dragged ND into your madness?


I tell you now that if you had not truncated the regional govt and abolished the autonomous nature of regions, your eastern region which would have shrunk to your five Igbo states would have been the poorest region in Nigeria.

This is why when I tell any of you Igbos to declare your biafra in your [b] 5 contigious states, [/b]you begin to insult us in the Niger Delta as a non tribe or inconsequential nation.

Why drag is then into your Judaic Utopia?

Ndigbo have never lose anything to Fulani not even an inch of sand. The above post showed Nigeria has internal academic problem.