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5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by thatsleepboy1: 12:41pm On Dec 01, 2020
5 prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books.

Christianity and Islam are the two most populated religion in the world. Hardly will you go to a country and you won't find someone that is either a Muslim or a Christian. The two religion have their holy books. The Christians have the Bible, and the Muslims have the Quran. The two religion though they have their different beliefs, they also have some similarities. Some of the similarities they have is in prophets that exist in the two holy books. Below are 5 prophets that exist in the Bible and in the Quran.

1. Moses or Mūsā

Moses or Musa is a prophet that led the Israelites out of Egypt. In the English bible he is called Moses. In the Quran he is called Mūsā.

2. Abraham, Ibrahim

The two religion along with the Jewish religion are called the Abrahamic religion. Abraham who is called the father of all nation existed in the two holy books. In the English bible he is called Abraham, and in the Quran he is called Ibrahim.

3. Elijah, Ilyas

Elijah or Ilyas, who is one of the string prophesy of God also exist in the two Holy book as Elijah in the Bible and as Ilyas in the Quran.

4. Noah, Nūḥ

Noah, or Nūh is the man God revealed that the world will come to an end, he should build a big ship. He is called Noah in the Bible and Nūḥ in the Quran.

5. Jonah, Dhul-Nūn

He is the prophet that a fish swallowed. He is Dhul-Nūn in Quran and Jonah in the Bible.

According to the Abrahamic faiths, prophets are human beings chosen by God as bearers of revelation to other human beings.

Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by Kosoco(m): 1:03pm On Dec 01, 2020
So why can’t both faith cohabit.
Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by enilove(m): 1:06pm On Dec 01, 2020
Islam is a fake religion.

The original always comes before the fake. They got to know about the names of the prophets from the Bible because they had copies of the bible around from which they read :

Hadith

حَدَّثَنَا إِسْمَاعِيلُ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، حَدَّثَنِي مَالِكٌ، عَنْ نَافِعٍ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عُمَرَ ـ رضى الله عنهما ـ أَنَّهُ قَالَ إِنَّ الْيَهُودَ جَاءُوا إِلَى رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَذَكَرُوا لَهُ أَنَّ رَجُلاً مِنْهُمْ وَامْرَأَةً زَنَيَا فَقَالَ لَهُمْ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏

‏ مَا تَجِدُونَ فِي التَّوْرَاةِ فِي شَأْنِ الرَّجْمِ ‏"

‏‏‏ فَقَالُوا نَفْضَحُهُمْ وَيُجْلَدُونَ‏‏ قَالَ عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ سَلاَمٍ كَذَبْتُمْ إِنَّ فِيهَا الرَّجْمَ‏‏ فَأَتَوْا بِالتَّوْرَاةِ فَنَشَرُوهَا، فَوَضَعَ أَحَدُهُمْ يَدَهُ عَلَى آيَةِ الرَّجْمِ فَقَرَأَ مَا قَبْلَهَا وَمَا بَعْدَهَا‏‏ فَقَالَ لَهُ عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ سَلاَمٍ ارْفَعْ يَدَكَ‏‏ فَرَفَعَ يَدَهُ فَإِذَا فِيهَا آيَةُ الرَّجْمِ‏‏ قَالُوا صَدَقَ يَا مُحَمَّدُ فِيهَا آيَةُ الرَّجْمِ‏‏ فَأَمَرَ بِهِمَا رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَرُجِمَا، فَرَأَيْتُ الرَّجُلَ يَحْنِي عَلَى الْمَرْأَةِ يَقِيهَا الْحِجَارَةَ‏‏

Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar:

The jews came to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and mentioned to him that a man and a lady among them had committed illegal sexual intercourse. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said to them, "What do you find in the Torah regarding the Rajam?" They replied, "We only disgrace and flog them with stripes." `Abdullah bin Salam said to them, 'You have told a lie the penalty of Rajam is in the Torah.' They brought the Torah and opened it. One of them put his hand over the verse of the Rajam and read what was before and after it. `Abdullah bin Salam said to him, "Lift up your hand." Where he lifted it there appeared the verse of the Rajam. So they said, "O Muhammad! He has said the truth, the verse of the Rajam is in it (Torah)." Then Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) ordered that the two persons (guilty of illegal sexual intercourse) be stoned to death, and so they were stoned, and I saw the man bending over the woman so as to protect her from the stones.


Sahih al-Bukhari 6841
In-book : Book 86, Hadith 65
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 8, Book 82, Hadith 825  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari
Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by Standing5(m): 3:04pm On Dec 01, 2020
It is clear which is genuine. Let's just say copy and paste from islam gone wrong

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Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by AntiChristian: 3:23pm On Dec 01, 2020
enilove:
Islam is a fake religion.

The original always comes before the fake. They got to know about the names of the prophets from the Bible because they had copies of the bible around from which they read :

Hadith

حَدَّثَنَا إِسْمَاعِيلُ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، حَدَّثَنِي مَالِكٌ، عَنْ نَافِعٍ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عُمَرَ ـ رضى الله عنهما ـ أَنَّهُ قَالَ إِنَّ الْيَهُودَ جَاءُوا إِلَى رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَذَكَرُوا لَهُ أَنَّ رَجُلاً مِنْهُمْ وَامْرَأَةً زَنَيَا فَقَالَ لَهُمْ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏

‏ مَا تَجِدُونَ فِي التَّوْرَاةِ فِي شَأْنِ الرَّجْمِ ‏"

‏‏‏ فَقَالُوا نَفْضَحُهُمْ وَيُجْلَدُونَ‏‏ قَالَ عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ سَلاَمٍ كَذَبْتُمْ إِنَّ فِيهَا الرَّجْمَ‏‏ فَأَتَوْا بِالتَّوْرَاةِ فَنَشَرُوهَا، فَوَضَعَ أَحَدُهُمْ يَدَهُ عَلَى آيَةِ الرَّجْمِ فَقَرَأَ مَا قَبْلَهَا وَمَا بَعْدَهَا‏‏ فَقَالَ لَهُ عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ سَلاَمٍ ارْفَعْ يَدَكَ‏‏ فَرَفَعَ يَدَهُ فَإِذَا فِيهَا آيَةُ الرَّجْمِ‏‏ قَالُوا صَدَقَ يَا مُحَمَّدُ فِيهَا آيَةُ الرَّجْمِ‏‏ فَأَمَرَ بِهِمَا رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَرُجِمَا، فَرَأَيْتُ الرَّجُلَ يَحْنِي عَلَى الْمَرْأَةِ يَقِيهَا الْحِجَارَةَ‏‏

Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar:

The jews came to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and mentioned to him that a man and a lady among them had committed illegal sexual intercourse. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said to them, "What do you find in the Torah regarding the Rajam?" They replied, "We only disgrace and flog them with stripes." `Abdullah bin Salam said to them, 'You have told a lie the penalty of Rajam is in the Torah.' They brought the Torah and opened it. One of them put his hand over the verse of the Rajam and read what was before and after it. `Abdullah bin Salam said to him, "Lift up your hand." Where he lifted it there appeared the verse of the Rajam. So they said, "O Muhammad! He has said the truth, the verse of the Rajam is in it (Torah)." Then Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) ordered that the two persons (guilty of illegal sexual intercourse) be stoned to death, and so they were stoned, and I saw the man bending over the woman so as to protect her from the stones.


Sahih al-Bukhari 6841
In-book : Book 86, Hadith 65
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 8, Book 82, Hadith 825  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

Why show us your ignorance and your lying skills? It's been a while. Islam is more original than other Abrahamic faiths.

1. Abraham never worshiped three god in one! Same as Moses and other Prophets mentioned by the OP. None of them knew Jesus as son of God as today's Christians claim.

2. Muslims believe in the Torah revealed to Musa from the Almighty. The Torah is not the Genesis, Number, Exodus, Leviticus, etc being peddled around today of which the number of Books is even different from Catholic duoay to Protestansts to others.

3. Hebrew (the language of Most Prophets), Aramaic (the language of Jesus) and Arabic are examples of semitic language that can be traced to Shem one of the descendants of Noah! Hence the names of the Prophets looks similar since they have similar roots.

4. Jesus never brought any new religion! The Qur'an states that he was a Muslim and he was born helpless as any other kid. He sucked breast milk and was protected just like other kids.
He never mentioned Christianity till he left this world. The words "Christianity" and "Christian" were formed by mere men and where not approved by God.

5. Similarly, the Injeel given to Jesus from the Almighty is not the New Testament of today purportedly written by Mathew, Mark, Luke, etc.

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Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by Samunique(m): 5:39pm On Dec 01, 2020
AntiChristian:


Why show us your ignorance and your lying skills? It's been a while. Islam is more original than other Abrahamic faiths.

1. Abraham never worshiped three god in one! Same as Moses and other Prophets mentioned by the OP. None of them knew Jesus as son of God as today's Christians claim.

2. Muslims believe in the Torah revealed to Musa from the Almighty. The Torah is not the Genesis, Number, Exodus, Leviticus, etc being peddled around today of which the number of Books is even different from Catholic duoay to Protestansts to others.

3. Hebrew (the language of Most Prophets), Aramaic (the language of Jesus) and Arabic are examples of semitic language that can be traced to Shem one of the descendants of Noah! Hence the names of the Prophets looks similar since they have similar roots.

4. Jesus never brought any new religion! The Qur'an states that he was a Muslim and he was born helpless as any other kid. He sucked breast milk and was protected just like other kids.
He never mentioned Christianity till he left this world. The words "Christianity" and "Christian" were formed by mere men and where not approved by God.

5. Similarly, the Injeel given to Jesus from the Almighty is not the New Testament of today purportedly written by Mathew, Mark, Luke, etc.

So where is the lnjeel ?
Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by ANTIlSLAM(m): 5:51pm On Dec 01, 2020
AntiChristian:


Why show us your ignorance and your lying skills? It's been a while. Islam is more original than other Abrahamic faiths.

1. Abraham never worshiped three god in one! Same as Moses and other Prophets mentioned by the OP. None of them knew Jesus as son of God as today's Christians claim.

But Abraham carried kettle, banged his head on the floor while observing four or five times daily asolat right? Or Abraham carried Quran dey evangelize the religion of allah, Islam isn't it?

AntiChristian:



2. Muslims believe in the Torah revealed to Musa from the Almighty. The Torah is not the Genesis, Number, Exodus, Leviticus, etc being peddled around today of which the number of Books is even different from Catholic duoay to Protestansts to others.

I thought you said Moses was a Muslim, so Almighty Revealed Torah to Musa but never revealed Quran to him .. May God heal your suffering


AntiChristian:




3. Hebrew (the language of Most Prophets), Aramaic (the language of Jesus) and Arabic are examples of semitic language that can be traced to Shem one of the descendants of Noah! Hence the names of the Prophets looks similar since they have similar roots.


Hence all the Prophets were ANOINTED, who anoints Muhammad as your prophet?

AntiChristian:



4. Jesus never brought any new religion! The Qur'an states that he was a Muslim and he was born helpless as any other kid. He sucked breast milk and was protected just like other kids.
He never mentioned Christianity till he left this world. The words "Christianity" and "Christian" were formed by mere men and where not approved by God.

You said NEW religion, are you saying Islam was the first religion on earth? See how you've been brainwashed again.. Jesus Christ is NOT A Christian I hope you know and understand the meaning of Christian?

AntiChristian:



5. Similarly, the Injeel given to Jesus from the Almighty is not the New Testament of today purportedly written by Mathew, Mark, Luke, etc.

Are you a member of CONFUSIONIST school of thought? But you Muslims believe that the promised of Holy Spirit Jesus Christ made was Muhammad as read in the Bible, why are you denying the same Bible again?

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Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by AntiChristian: 7:25pm On Dec 01, 2020
Samunique:


So where is the lnjeel ?

Lost!

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Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by Samunique(m): 8:04pm On Dec 01, 2020
AntiChristian:


Lost!
How, when and where ?

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Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by enilove(m): 8:57pm On Dec 01, 2020
AntiChristian:


Why show us your ignorance and your lying skills? It's been a while. Islam is more original than other Abrahamic faiths.

1. Abraham never worshiped three god in one! Same as Moses and other Prophets mentioned by the OP. None of them knew Jesus as son of God as today's Christians claim.

2. Muslims believe in the Torah revealed to Musa from the Almighty. The Torah is not the Genesis, Number, Exodus, Leviticus, etc being peddled around today of which the number of Books is even different from Catholic duoay to Protestansts to others.

3. Hebrew (the language of Most Prophets), Aramaic (the language of Jesus) and Arabic are examples of semitic language that can be traced to Shem one of the descendants of Noah! Hence the names of the Prophets looks similar since they have similar roots.

4. Jesus never brought any new religion! The Qur'an states that he was a Muslim and he was born helpless as any other kid. He sucked breast milk and was protected just like other kids.
He never mentioned Christianity till he left this world. The words "Christianity" and "Christian" were formed by mere men and where not approved by God.

5. Similarly, the Injeel given to Jesus from the Almighty is not the New Testament of today purportedly written by Mathew, Mark, Luke, etc.

What can be more ignorant than this your post?

You claimed I lied , but you can't point at the very lie. Was it the the Sahih Bukhari that I quoted that is untrue or what .

Maybe you think Christianity is like Islam that is a lie from the on set , that had to born the first set of Quran because of discrepancies , in order to hide the falsehood in the Quran.

I don't argue without showing proof . It easy to badmouth something but any wise person would ask for evidence.

Where are the evidence that the New testament of nowadays is different from the ones written by Matthew mark etc ?

It is a known fact that the Quran was burnt and there are about 30 different Qur'an's now in circulation world wide


Narrated Anas bin Malik:

Hudhaifa bin Al-Yaman came to `Uthman at the time when the people of Sham and the people of Iraq were Waging war to conquer Arminya and Adharbijan. Hudhaifa was afraid of their (the people of Sham and Iraq) differences in the recitation of the Qur'an, so he said to `Uthman, "O chief of the Believers! Save this nation before they differ about the Book (Qur'an) as Jews and the Christians did before." So `Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, "Send us the manuscripts of the Qur'an so that we may compile the Qur'anic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you." Hafsa sent it to `Uthman. `Uthman then ordered Zaid bin Thabit, `Abdullah bin AzZubair, Sa`id bin Al-As and `AbdurRahman bin Harith bin Hisham to rewrite the manuscripts in perfect copies. `Uthman said to the three Quraishi men, "In case you disagree with Zaid bin Thabit on any point in the Qur'an, then write it in the dialect of Quraish, the Qur'an was revealed in their tongue." They did so, and when they had written many copies, `Uthman returned the original manuscripts to Hafsa. `Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur'anic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, BE BURNT .

Sahih al-Bukhari 4987
In-book : Book 66, Hadith 9
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 6, Book 61, Hadith 510  (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari

IS IT NOT FRAUDULENT TO CALL JESUS , ABRAHAM , MOSES , PHARAOH MUSLIMS ?

Only confused person would believe that satanic lie.

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Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by AntiChristian: 5:35am On Dec 02, 2020
Samunique:
How, when and where ?

How will I know? Jesus is no more available. We would have asked him where the scripture given to him was. But we don't need his scripture just as we don't need the Torah anymore. They have served their time and the people they were meant to serve.

Torah was give to Moses for the salvation and guidance of his people!

Injeel was given to Jesus for the salvation and guidance of the children of Israel!

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Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by Samunique(m): 8:12am On Dec 02, 2020
AntiChristian:


How will I know? Jesus is no more available. We would have asked him where the scripture given to him was. But we don't need his scripture just as we don't need the Torah anymore. They have served their time and the people they were meant to serve.

Torah was give to Moses for the salvation and guidance of his people!

Injeel was given to Jesus for the salvation and guidance of the children of Israel!
@The Bolds

I think most Muslims will go to hell fire just bcs of this lie they ached about Jesus and could not defend at the same time.

Imagine yourself standing before a judge and making a claim which he asked you to defend and all you could say was how will I know .

You said the Injeel was lost, I asked how, when and where, all you could say was, "how would I know".

Then why are you making a claim you cannot substantiate ?
The hypocrisy and lies you display here just confirm what none Muslims have been saying about Muslims that, you guys can defend Islam with anything, even if it takes, to lie, steal, kill and destroy, which have been the modus operandi of Muslims from the onset. Do you want to know the spirit that operates this way? IT'S THE DEVIL !!!

Secondly, you said Torah and Injeel are no more needed .

Pls what do you have to say about the hadith posted by @enilove ?

So your prophet asked the Jews to be judged by an irrelevant book ?

So your god asked your prophet to clear his doubt from an irrelevant book

Qur'an 10:94
Yusuf Ali: If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt.

You Muslims are something else !!!
So God would send someone like Jesus Christ who was born in a unique way with a book and several signs and wonders, and the same God will not be able to keep the book, even if it's only for reference ?

The same God was able to preserve the Qur'an, but became powerless to protect Torah from corruption and Injeel from being lost ?
Even the poorest of all the book writers of this world will not be that silly that he will not be able to keep his works which took him several years to put together just bcs he's having a new and supposedly final book !

Dear, you have not made any sense not until you show us how, when and where the Injeel was lost with evidence. Until then , keep wallowing in your delusion undecided

Perhaps you could show us some quranic verses that state clearly that the gospel was lost ?

Just want to make it easier for you . undecided

Chaiii Muslims !!! grin

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Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by AntiChristian: 2:02pm On Dec 02, 2020
Samunique:
@The Bolds

I think most Muslims will go to hell fire just bcs of this lie they ached about Jesus and could not defend at the same time.

Imagine yourself standing before a judge and making a claim which he asked you to defend and all you could say was how will I know .

You said the Injeel was lost, I asked how, when and where, all you could say was, "how would I know".

Then why are you making a claim you cannot substantiate ?
The hypocrisy and lies you display here just confirm what none Muslims have been saying about Muslims that, you guys can defend Islam with anything, even if it takes, to lie, steal, kill and destroy, which have been the modus operandi of Muslims from the onset. Do you want to know the spirit that operates this way? IT'S THE DEVIL !!!

Oh! No need saying most Muslims will be in hell cos we believe in the son of Mary as well as other Prophets.
To your claim of the Injeel, it was meant for the Children of Israel and this never extend to the entire world Just as the Torah was for the people of Moses!

Injeel, Torah, Zabur, and other revealed Books were revealed to certain Prophets at certain times for specific periods. If the Torah was still useful then why do we need the Zaboor of David? Or why do we need the Injeel?

Now we say Injeel was revealed to Jesus son of Mary! It is not a biography of Jesus or Jesus's life written by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John nor the Books written by Saul turn Paul! This is not our Injeel!

And I still can't see where I lied here! You have a premeditated thinking of Muslims already!

Samunique:
Secondly, you said Torah and Injeel are no more needed .

Pls what do you have to say about the hadith posted by @enilove ?

So your prophet asked the Jews to be judged by an irrelevant book ?

enilove didn't touch any of my four points at all. He just defected from what I typed to another thing else. So I don't think I should reply him.
To your reference to his hadith, the Qur'an came to confirm previous scriptures so the Prophet only showed them what he was preaching was not entirely something new.

Samunique:

So your god asked your prophet to clear his doubt from an irrelevant book

Qur'an 10:94
Yusuf Ali: If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt.
What is the context and setting of this verse? What does the associated verses before and after it say?
Sometimes you guys pick a verse and you just interpret it like Boko Haram.

Samunique:

You Muslims are something else !!!
So God would send someone like Jesus Christ who was born in a unique way with a book and several signs and wonders, and the same God will not be able to keep the book, even if it's only for reference ?
The same God was able to preserve the Qur'an, but became powerless to protect Torah from corruption and Injeel from being lost ?
Even the poorest of all the book writers of this world will not be that silly that he will not be able to keep his works which took him several years to put together just bcs he's having a new and supposedly final book !
Dear, you have not made any sense not until you show us how, when and where the Injeel was lost with evidence. Until then , keep wallowing in your delusion undecided
Perhaps you could show us some quranic verses that state clearly that the gospel was lost ?
Just want to make it easier for you . undecided
Chaiii Muslims !!! grin

I can say you Christians are the liars here. You just cherry pick verse and give it your own meaning and you keep accusing Muslims here with it.

So just because Jesus had no father, he is different. Adam has no parents just as Eve has no father. So it is not only Jesus that was born specially!
I will like to wallow in my delusion as you said and you too keep wallowing in the your false believe that the Torah is OT and Injeel is NT!

Below are relevant verses you may need from the Qur'an.
Allah has guaranteed the preservation of the Qura'nic text, as He, the Most Exalted, Says (what means): "Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian." [Qur'an 15:9]

Allah also Says (what means): "And the word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can alter His words, and He is the All-Hearing, the All-Knowing." [Qur'an 6: 115]

As for the previous Scriptures, they were for a limited duration of time. Allah gave human beings the responsibility of preserving them, and they lost them through corruption, alteration, and concealment. Allah Says (what means):

"Indeed, We sent down the Torah, in which was guidance and light. The prophets who submitted [to Allah] judged by it for the Jews, as did the rabbis and scholars by that with which they were entrusted of the Scripture of Allah, and they were witnesses thereto." [Qur'an 5:44]

In the Qur'an, Allah Almighty informs us that the Torah was changed; He Says (what means):
"So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn." [Qur'an 2:79]

The Law that came with Prophet 'Eesa (Jesus) may Allah exalt his mention abrogated part of the Law that came with Moosa (Moses) may Allah exalt his mention. Relating the words of Prophet 'Eesa may Allah exalt his mention to the Children of Israel, Almighty Allah Says (what means): "And I have come confirming that which was before me of the Torah and to make lawful to you part of what was forbidden to you…" [Qur'an 3:50]

The Islamic Law is lasting, remaining suitable for every place and time, and embracing the goodness of the previous manifestations of the Law. Allah Says (what means): “And We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it." [Qur'an 5:48]

When we talk about Injeel, no be Gospel according St. Matthew, Mark, Luke, John or Paul we dey talk!
And Torah no be Genesis, Exodus, Numbers, Deuteronomy...…

The Books are lost though the ages and human corruption!
Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by enilove(m): 3:20pm On Dec 02, 2020
AntiChristian:


Oh! No need saying most Muslims will be in hell cos we believe in the son of Mary as well as other Prophets.
To your claim of the Injeel, it was meant for the Children of Israel and this never extend to the entire world Just as the Torah was for the people of Moses!

Injeel, Torah, Zabur, and other revealed Books were revealed to certain Prophets at certain times for specific periods. If the Torah was still useful then why do we need the Zaboor of David? Or why do we need the Injeel?

Now we say Injeel was revealed to Jesus son of Mary! It is not a biography of Jesus or Jesus's life written by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John nor the Books written by Saul turn Paul! This is not our Injeel!

And I still can't see where I lied here! You have a premeditated thinking of Muslims already!



enilove didn't touch any of my four points at all. He just defected from what I typed to another thing else. So I don't think I should reply him.
To your reference to his hadith, the Qur'an came to confirm previous scriptures so the Prophet only showed them what he was preaching was not entirely something new.


What is the context and setting of this verse? What does the associated verses before and after it say?
Sometimes you guys pick a verse and you just interpret it like Boko Haram.



I can say you Christians are the liars here. You just cherry pick verse and give it your own meaning and you keep accusing Muslims here with it.

So just because Jesus had no father, he is different. Adam has no parents just as Eve has no father. So it is not only Jesus that was born specially!
I will like to wallow in my delusion as you said and you too keep wallowing in the your false believe that the Torah is OT and Injeel is NT!

Below are relevant verses you may need from the Qur'an.
Allah has guaranteed the preservation of the Qura'nic text, as He, the Most Exalted, Says (what means): "Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian." [Qur'an 15:9]

Allah also Says (what means): "And the word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can alter His words, and He is the All-Hearing, the All-Knowing." [Qur'an 6: 115]

As for the previous Scriptures, they were for a limited duration of time. Allah gave human beings the responsibility of preserving them, and they lost them through corruption, alteration, and concealment. Allah Says (what means):

"Indeed, We sent down the Torah, in which was guidance and light. The prophets who submitted [to Allah] judged by it for the Jews, as did the rabbis and scholars by that with which they were entrusted of the Scripture of Allah, and they were witnesses thereto." [Qur'an 5:44]

In the Qur'an, Allah Almighty informs us that the Torah was changed; He Says (what means):
"So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn." [Qur'an 2:79]

The Law that came with Prophet 'Eesa (Jesus) may Allah exalt his mention abrogated part of the Law that came with Moosa (Moses) may Allah exalt his mention. Relating the words of Prophet 'Eesa may Allah exalt his mention to the Children of Israel, Almighty Allah Says (what means): "And I have come confirming that which was before me of the Torah and to make lawful to you part of what was forbidden to you…" [Qur'an 3:50]

The Islamic Law is lasting, remaining suitable for every place and time, and embracing the goodness of the previous manifestations of the Law. Allah Says (what means): “And We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it." [Qur'an 5:48]

When we talk about Injeel, no be Gospel according St. Matthew, Mark, Luke, John or Paul we dey talk!
And Torah no be Genesis, Exodus, Numbers, Deuteronomy...…

The Books are lost though the ages and human corruption!

Let us assume you are right.

Why did Allah wait for about 2600 years after the existence of the Torah b4 sending Muhammad with the Quran ?

Or let's say ,
When Allah was about to send Moses with the Torah , did he not know that it would be a failed venture because the book will be corrupted ?
Why couldn't he just send Muhammad with the Quran and preserve it instead ?

What was the reason why Muhammad was sent?

We know why Jesus was sent. Not because the Bible was corrupt , but to fulfill the prophesies given by God in order to bring salvation to mankind .

Tell us the assignment of Muhammad which other prophets b4 him could not carry out .

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Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by hashtagged(m): 3:48pm On Dec 02, 2020
AntiChristian:


Why show us your ignorance and your lying skills? It's been a while. Islam is more original than other Abrahamic faiths.

1. Abraham never worshiped three god in one! Same as Moses and other Prophets mentioned by the OP. None of them knew Jesus as son of God as today's Christians claim.

2. Muslims believe in the Torah revealed to Musa from the Almighty. The Torah is not the Genesis, Number, Exodus, Leviticus, etc being peddled around today of which the number of Books is even different from Catholic duoay to Protestansts to others.

3. Hebrew (the language of Most Prophets), Aramaic (the language of Jesus) and Arabic are examples of semitic language that can be traced to Shem one of the descendants of Noah! Hence the names of the Prophets looks similar since they have similar roots.

4. Jesus never brought any new religion! The Qur'an states that he was a Muslim and he was born helpless as any other kid. He sucked breast milk and was protected just like other kids.
He never mentioned Christianity till he left this world. The words "Christianity" and "Christian" were formed by mere men and where not approved by God.

5. Similarly, the Injeel given to Jesus from the Almighty is not the New Testament of today purportedly written by Mathew, Mark, Luke, etc.

1),2),3) Abraham,Moses and Noah are present is many religions with different names even in Hindu and parts of budha.

1) yes Abraham did not know he was the son of God cause he was never there in their time.
Did Abraham know about Mohammed, did he pray by bowing down, did he do Salah, why didn't he even know about the koran,

4)Ok what is Christianity, it means Christ like, yes he never started a religion but people who follow after his teachings are Christian meaning they are Christ like.

5) Matthew, mark , Luke and John are the stories of the life of Christ or do you have his story with you to make me believe they are fake? You condemn chapters of a book you have never read, if you had read them you would understand he was really from God.

Lastly what makes you think your version of the Bible as detailed from the Quran is right, you never lived in those ages. And the Bible existed long before the Quran so?
It's just seems like the Quran copied what they know from the Bible.

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Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by efficiencie(m): 5:04pm On Dec 02, 2020
AntiChristian:


Oh! No need saying most Muslims will be in hell cos we believe in the son of Mary as well as other Prophets.
To your claim of the Injeel, it was meant for the Children of Israel and this never extend to the entire world Just as the Torah was for the people of Moses!

Injeel, Torah, Zabur, and other revealed Books were revealed to certain Prophets at certain times for specific periods. If the Torah was still useful then why do we need the Zaboor of David? Or why do we need the Injeel?

Now we say Injeel was revealed to Jesus son of Mary! It is not a biography of Jesus or Jesus's life written by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John nor the Books written by Saul turn Paul! This is not our Injeel!

And I still can't see where I lied here! You have a premeditated thinking of Muslims already!



enilove didn't touch any of my four points at all. He just defected from what I typed to another thing else. So I don't think I should reply him.
To your reference to his hadith, the Qur'an came to confirm previous scriptures so the Prophet only showed them what he was preaching was not entirely something new.


What is the context and setting of this verse? What does the associated verses before and after it say?
Sometimes you guys pick a verse and you just interpret it like Boko Haram.



I can say you Christians are the liars here. You just cherry pick verse and give it your own meaning and you keep accusing Muslims here with it.

So just because Jesus had no father, he is different. Adam has no parents just as Eve has no father. So it is not only Jesus that was born specially!
I will like to wallow in my delusion as you said and you too keep wallowing in the your false believe that the Torah is OT and Injeel is NT!

Below are relevant verses you may need from the Qur'an.
Allah has guaranteed the preservation of the Qura'nic text, as He, the Most Exalted, Says (what means): "Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian." [Qur'an 15:9]

Allah also Says (what means): "And the word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can alter His words, and He is the All-Hearing, the All-Knowing." [Qur'an 6: 115]

As for the previous Scriptures, they were for a limited duration of time. Allah gave human beings the responsibility of preserving them, and they lost them through corruption, alteration, and concealment. Allah Says (what means):

"Indeed, We sent down the Torah, in which was guidance and light. The prophets who submitted [to Allah] judged by it for the Jews, as did the rabbis and scholars by that with which they were entrusted of the Scripture of Allah, and they were witnesses thereto." [Qur'an 5:44]

In the Qur'an, Allah Almighty informs us that the Torah was changed; He Says (what means):
"So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn." [Qur'an 2:79]

The Law that came with Prophet 'Eesa (Jesus) may Allah exalt his mention abrogated part of the Law that came with Moosa (Moses) may Allah exalt his mention. Relating the words of Prophet 'Eesa may Allah exalt his mention to the Children of Israel, Almighty Allah Says (what means): "And I have come confirming that which was before me of the Torah and to make lawful to you part of what was forbidden to you…" [Qur'an 3:50]

The Islamic Law is lasting, remaining suitable for every place and time, and embracing the goodness of the previous manifestations of the Law. Allah Says (what means): “And We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it." [Qur'an 5:48]

When we talk about Injeel, no be Gospel according St. Matthew, Mark, Luke, John or Paul we dey talk!
And Torah no be Genesis, Exodus, Numbers, Deuteronomy...…

The Books are lost though the ages and human corruption!

Same as the Quran. "The standard narrative of the Quran has holes in it" Yasir Qhadi.

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Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by Samunique(m): 6:51pm On Dec 02, 2020
@AntiChristian.

Pls what is Injeel ?

I need a straight answer .

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Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by AntiChristian: 10:03am On Dec 03, 2020
Samunique:
@AntiChristian.

Pls what is Injeel ?

I need a straight answer

The Scripture revealed to the son of Maryam by Allah!
Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by AntiChristian: 10:08am On Dec 03, 2020
efficiencie:


Same as the Quran. "The standard narrative of the Quran has holes in it" Yasir Qhadi.

Who is Yasir Qhadi?

"If the Rapture doesn’t happen in 3 years, it might be 6 years. If it doesn’t happen by then, it cannot exceed 10 years…says Pastor Chris Oyakhilome.

I can quote indaboski Pahose and others too!
Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by ANTIlSLAM(m): 10:18am On Dec 03, 2020
AntiChristian:



O boy, are you now scared or afraid of me? grin
Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by AntiChristian: 10:52am On Dec 03, 2020
ANTIlSLAM:


O boy, are you now scared or afraid of me? grin


You posts reeks of stupidity and it lacks substance! So i no dey reply am till i see one wey get atom of sense.
Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by AntiChristian: 11:10am On Dec 03, 2020
hashtagged:


1),2),3) Abraham,Moses and Noah are present is many religions with different names even in Hindu and parts of budha.

If the name is different then how is it Abraham? And how can Abraham be associated with paganism?

1) yes Abraham did not know he was the son of God cause he was never there in their time.
Did Abraham know about Mohammed, did he pray by bowing down, did he do Salah, why didn't he even know about the koran,

Abraham the father of faith did not know he was the son of God and you think he was guided by God? Who wrote those portion of the Bible where Abraham didn't recognize Jesus? Abraham prayed by bowing down in the Bible. He also had his own scripture revealed to him. Qur'an was revealed to Muhammad. Injeel to Jesus, Torah to Moses.

What are these men of God doing?

1. Jesus: Going a little farther, he (Jesus) fell with his face to the ground and prayed Matthew 26:39

2. Abram: "And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying...," - Old Testament (Genesis 17:3)

3. Abraham:"Then Abraham fell upon his face, and laughed, and said in his heart, Shall a child be born unto him that is an hundred years old? and shall Sarah, that is ninety years old, bear?" - Old Testament (Genesis 17:17)

4. Moses: "And Moses made haste, and bowed his head toward the earth, and worshiped." - Old Testament (Exodus 34:cool

5. Moses & Aaron:“And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and they fell upon their faces: and the glory of the LORD appeared unto them.” - Old Testament (Numbers 20:6)

6. Moses & Aaron:"And the LORD spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying, Separate yourselves from among this congregation, that I may consume them in a moment. And they fell upon their faces, and said, O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin, and wilt thou be wroth with all the congregation?" - Old Testament (Numbers 16:20-22)

7. Ezra and his People: And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the LORD with [their] faces to the ground. - Old Testament (Nehemiah 8:6)

8. Joshua: "And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my Lord unto his servant?" - Old Testament (Tanakh) (Joshua 5:14)

9. A Prophet: "And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou destroy all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem?" - Old Testament (Ezekiel 9:cool

10 Jehoshaphat: "And Jehoshaphat bowed his head with his face to the ground: and all Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem fell before the LORD, worshipping the LORD." - Old Testament (2 Chronicles 20:18)

11. A Prophet:"And it came to pass, when I prophesied, that Pelatiah the son of Benaiah died. Then fell I down upon my face, and cried with a loud voice, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou make a full end of the remnant of Israel?" - Old Testament (Ezekiel 11:13)


4)Ok what is Christianity, it means Christ like, yes he never started a religion but people who follow after his teachings are Christian meaning they are Christ like.
Good Why start a religion when Jesus never started one? Na OYO you dey!


5) Matthew, mark , Luke and John are the stories of the life of Christ or do you have his story with you to make me believe they are fake? You condemn chapters of a book you have never read, if you had read them you would understand he was really from God.

Please let's be truthful. I don't want to call you a liar for any mistake you commit. Christians agree that the Bible is not from God!
Even Luke says in Luke 1:1-4 New International Version

1 Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, 2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. 3 With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4 so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.

Lastly what makes you think your version of the Bible as detailed from the Quran is right, you never lived in those ages. And the Bible existed long before the Quran so?
It's just seems like the Quran copied what they know from the Bible.

The whole Qur'an is the word of Allah! The Bible contains the word of God, Men of God, unknown men, words of historians, eyewitnesses, fools, etc.

How can the Qur'an have copied the Bible when the Bible as it is today never existed when the Qur'an was compiled!
Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by ANTIlSLAM(m): 11:20am On Dec 03, 2020
AntiChristian:


The whole Qur'an is the word of Allah! The Bible contains the word of God, Men of God, unknown men, words of historians, eyewitnesses, fools, etc.

How can the Qur'an have copied the Bible when the Bible as it is today never existed when the Qur'an was compiled!


Including these verses right??


Quran 8:12

"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve So strike above the necks and strike off every fingertip of theirs”

So allah is a TERRORIST ehm


Quran 8:39

"And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion is all for Allah"

Your allah is a Muslim or lover of Islam bah?
Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by ANTIlSLAM(m): 11:22am On Dec 03, 2020
AntiChristian:



You posts reeks of stupidity and it lacks substance! So i no dey reply am till i see one wey get atom of sense.

Buhahahaha so to tell me who anoints Muhammad as your prophet in Islam you called stupidity? grin

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Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by AntiChristian: 11:26am On Dec 03, 2020
enilove:


Let us assume you are right.

Why did Allah wait for about 2600 years after the existence of the Torah b4 sending Muhammad with the Quran ?

Or let's say ,
When Allah was about to send Moses with the Torah , did he not know that it would be a failed venture because the book will be corrupted ?
Why couldn't he just send Muhammad with the Quran and preserve it instead ?

What was the reason why Muhammad was sent?

We know why Jesus was sent. Not because the Bible was corrupt , but to fulfill the prophesies given by God in order to bring salvation to mankind .

Tell us the assignment of Muhammad which other prophets b4 him could not carry out .



Alhamdulillah, As you know Allah sends Prophets in succession to guide Mankind. Some He reveals scriptures to and others may used the last scripture available to them. Their scope is usually given.

All nations got one or more Prophet(s).

Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Verily! We have sent you with the truth, a bearer of glad tidings, and a warner. And there never was a nation but a warner had passed among them.”
[Faatir 3524]

“And verily, We have sent among every Ummah (community, nation) a Messenger (proclaiming): Worship Allah (Alone), and avoid (or keep away from) Taghoot (all false deities, etc. i.e. do not worship Taghoot besides Allah)”
[an-Nahl 16:36].


Hence it is part of the justice of Allah that He has decreed that He will not punish anyone whom the call of the Prophets and Messengers did not reach, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And We never punish until We have sent a Messenger (to give warning)”

[al-Isra’ 17:15]

“This is because your Lord would not destroy the (populations of) towns for their wrongdoing (i.e. associating others in worship along with Allah) while their people were unaware (so the Messengers were sent)”

[al-An ‘am 6:131].

But Allah has not told us the stories of all the Messengers; rather He has only told us the stories of some of them. He has not told us the stories of most of them, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And Messengers We have mentioned to you before, and Messengers We have not mentioned to you”
[an-Nisa’ 4:164].

Moses was given a scripture which was directed to his people and the establishment of Pharaoh!

After that came David's Zabur for his people around Jerusalem.

After that came Jesus' Injeel for the Children of Israel.

And the final scripture in Qur'an for the entire mankind and Jinn.

So these are the plan of Allah in His infinite wisdom that all nations gets a Prophet. And there's no punishment without prior warning!


If one Prophet had been enough God would have only sent Noah and then no one else! But He kept sending them Abraham, Elijah, Elisha, Ezekiel, Moses, Aaron, Job, Ishmael, Lot, Enoch Jacob, Isaac, David, Solomon, Jonah, Zacharias, ……John, Jesus and Muhammad.

This is like a baton race and Muhammad is the last messenger of Allah just as the Qur'an is the final word of Allah!
Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by RightChannel: 11:39am On Dec 03, 2020
AntiChristian:


After that came David's Zabur for his people around Jerusalem.

After that came Jesus' Injeel for the Children of Israel.

And the final scripture in Qur'an for the entire mankind and Jinn.




Is Jerusalem not part of Israel or you need Google map? So God sent two diff books to two diff nations is that what you're saying?
Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by AntiChristian: 11:40am On Dec 03, 2020
ANTIlSLAM:


Buhahahaha so to tell me who anoints Muhammad as your prophet in Islam you called stupidity? grin

This is why I don't want to reply you.

Mention the verse(s) that states that a Prophet must be anointed to be a Prophet?

Then state how Abraham, Moses and Noah were anointed in the Bible?

Just keep laughing and let me reply people who get sense.
Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by AntiChristian: 11:43am On Dec 03, 2020
RightChannel:


Is Jerusalem not part of Israel or you need Google map? So God sent two diff books to two diff nations is that what you're saying?

Yes, God sent them to where He wills!

And think about it, how do you think the Torah was preserved thousands of years ago when they had to copy and copy it with ink and pen for months to make a copy!
Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by RightChannel: 11:45am On Dec 03, 2020
AntiChristian:


Yes, God sent them to where He wills!

And think about it, how do you think the Torah was preserved thousands of years ago when they had to copy and copy it with ink and pen for months to make a copy!

Is Jerusalem not part of Israel? Let's start from there
Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by RightChannel: 12:06pm On Dec 03, 2020
AntiChristian:


This is why I don't want to reply you.

Mention the verse(s) that states that a Prophet must be anointed to be a Prophet?

Then state how Abraham, Moses and Noah were anointed in the Bible?

Just keep laughing and let me reply people who get sense.

If Muhammad was truly A Prophet he should has A prophesy recorded about him, but comparing Muhammad with the likes of Abraham, Noah, Moses Even Jesus Christ doesn't worth it. None of the names mentioned above ever fought for religious activities but why is Muhammad's own case differ from others if truly he was a prophet?
Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by ANTIlSLAM(m): 12:22pm On Dec 03, 2020
AntiChristian:


This is why I don't want to reply you.

Mention the verse(s) that states that a Prophet must be anointed to be a Prophet?

Then state how Abraham, Moses and Noah were anointed in the Bible?

Just keep laughing and let me reply people who get sense.

Is like asking me to give a verse that a Prophet must have a Prophecy before been recognised as a Prophet.. God recognised Abraham, Moses, Noah, Isaiah, etc as his own servants and through them God performed Signs, miracles and wonders but your own assumed prophet Muhammad has NO single prophecy and miracle as Rightchannel said, why forcing him among the recognised Jewish prophests?

Arab nations has no record of Prophet(s), why is Muhammad a prophet without a purpose mission on earth?
Re: 5 Prophets Muslims And Christians Share Together In Their Holy Books. by hashtagged(m): 1:23pm On Dec 03, 2020
AntiChristian:


If the name is different then how is it Abraham? And how can Abraham be associated with paganism?



Abraham the father of faith did not know he was the son of God and you think he was guided by God? Who wrote those portion of the Bible where Abraham didn't recognize Jesus? Abraham prayed by bowing down in the Bible. He also had his own scripture revealed to him. Qur'an was revealed to Muhammad. Injeel to Jesus, Torah to Moses.

What are these men of God doing?

1. Jesus: Going a little farther, he (Jesus) fell with his face to the ground and prayed Matthew 26:39

2. Abram: "And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying...," - Old Testament (Genesis 17:3)

3. Abraham:"Then Abraham fell upon his face, and laughed, and said in his heart, Shall a child be born unto him that is an hundred years old? and shall Sarah, that is ninety years old, bear?" - Old Testament (Genesis 17:17)

4. Moses: "And Moses made haste, and bowed his head toward the earth, and worshiped." - Old Testament (Exodus 34:cool

5. Moses & Aaron:“And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and they fell upon their faces: and the glory of the LORD appeared unto them.” - Old Testament (Numbers 20:6)

6. Moses & Aaron:"And the LORD spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying, Separate yourselves from among this congregation, that I may consume them in a moment. And they fell upon their faces, and said, O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin, and wilt thou be wroth with all the congregation?" - Old Testament (Numbers 16:20-22)

7. Ezra and his People: And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the LORD with [their] faces to the ground. - Old Testament (Nehemiah 8:6)

8. Joshua: "And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my Lord unto his servant?" - Old Testament (Tanakh) (Joshua 5:14)

9. A Prophet: "And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou destroy all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem?" - Old Testament (Ezekiel 9:cool

10 Jehoshaphat: "And Jehoshaphat bowed his head with his face to the ground: and all Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem fell before the LORD, worshipping the LORD." - Old Testament (2 Chronicles 20:18)

11. A Prophet:"And it came to pass, when I prophesied, that Pelatiah the son of Benaiah died. Then fell I down upon my face, and cried with a loud voice, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou make a full end of the remnant of Israel?" - Old Testament (Ezekiel 11:13)

Good Why start a religion when Jesus never started one? Na OYO you dey!



Please let's be truthful. I don't want to call you a liar for any mistake you commit. Christians agree that the Bible is not from God!
Even Luke says in Luke 1:1-4 New International Version

1 Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, 2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. 3 With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4 so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.



The whole Qur'an is the word of Allah! The Bible contains the word of God, Men of God, unknown men, words of historians, eyewitnesses, fools, etc.

How can the Qur'an have copied the Bible when the Bible as it is today never existed when the Qur'an was compiled!

Paganism as in? if Abraham exists in multiple religions it means that it's proof he walked the earth, even if that religion is paganism it's proof.

Bowing out heads down to pray is done to show devotion search that online or do you now your heads everyday not knowing why?, it doesn't necessarily have to be done all the time like you guys do, ok the Prophets y you mentioned did they now their heads down every single time they prayed?

Bro read the Luke verse you just quoted again, I am not sure you read it well, the Bible is a compilation of scrolls detailing the lives of men of God. And what Luke said is proof that his book is legit if you had read it

And lastly you said the Bible was compiled by fools, that's not nice bro(if I said the koran was written by fools how would you feel). You can't judge a book you haven't read and if you read it you would know that if you call the Bible a book made by fools then what you call the Quran would be worse than that. Just try and read the new testament just once and see if fools made that book, or do you think when you read it you won't be the same again?.
And you said the Quran is the true book of God what makes you think that? we're you there when it was written, didn't you see a lot of flaws in the book too? Or are you just a bigot who obeys a book just cause you were born to read it.
The fact is out of all the religions what makes you sure that yours is the right one?
Or did Allah who clams to love peace like the slaughter of innocent Christian's? Or the killing or a woman's husband and forcing her to marry the killer, or the unfair treatment of women, weren't all men supposed to be equal, if your God is like this then he isn't a God of love or peace, he is an unfair God, who didn't even think of correcting his teachings.

And why start a religion when Jesus never started one, this proves you are just a bigot did you read the explanation of how Christianity came about. For your info Christianity means Christ like and Christian's are people who follow Jesus teachings, the if you are calling Christianity fake you are calling Jesus(Isa) a false prophet.

Have you read about Jesus before? If you haven't read about him and you would understand why Christian's decided to follow Jesus instead of Mohammed. Jesus didn't force anyone or kill anyone for people to accept him, (he did not sanction the unjust killing of people who did believe him) they did cause of how beautiful his teachings were if you did read them you would know it's beautiful, so stop judging a man who all you know about him are sentence where he was mentioned in the koran.

I know you see Christian's as f00ls who should be wiped out, but, try and understand them and you would have a better insight to them. I myself see Muslims a a group of people with a beautiful culture and a very good devotion to what they believe that's why I also try to understand them, and share my views with them.

Pls make sure you read what I have said thoroughly

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