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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by mostob(m): 9:51am On Dec 07, 2020
Karlovich:
I will pick Onuachu who has been getting more game time and scoring for his clubside over Iheanacho who has less minutes this season and goals, it's not like Iheanacho has been excellent since for the eagles in the last few games for us. The era you mentioned in the 90s we had strikers that can deliver then unlike now, even in the mid 2000s we had Patrick Ogunsoto and Tosin Dosunmu scoring for fun in Belgium but couldn't break into the national team.
Bro..national team doesn't work like that bro. There is a reason why Giroud do get call up ahead of other France strikers. In national team, you pick what is best for the team not who is banging goals for his club side. Despite Paul's goals for his club, Nacho will still boss him in the national team. E get why.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Karlovich: 10:18am On Dec 07, 2020
mostob:
Bro..national team doesn't work like that bro. There is a reason why Giroud do get call up ahead of other France strikers. In national team, you pick what is best for the team not who is banging goals for his club side. Despite Paul's goals for his club, Nacho will still boss him in the national team. E get why.
Giroud gets call up and he delivers, it is in contrast to Iheanacho's own in the SE, in other words Deschamps can count on Giroud to deliver for him, the same can't be said about Iheanacho and even Onuachu. Rohr needs serious scouting work as manager for centre forwards, Onuachu was even drafted into the team for Sierra Leone game after Simon picked up an injury, him listing the likes of Musa, Ejuke, Iwobi, Simon and Chukwueze in his call ups as forwards suggests he likes to deceive himself. We don't have the luxury of decent CFs at the moment like so many countries and so for that reason Onuachu deserves to be called up to the team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Karlovich: 10:19am On Dec 07, 2020
Kog45:
I got your point and you analysis was damn good but Rohr is just the issue.

This talented team is going to waste under Rohr and it would be very painful.
thank you, if his performances don't improve, then he needs to be fired.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by godspeed: 10:23am On Dec 07, 2020
grin

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:28am On Dec 07, 2020
Kog45:
A good gaffer will picked Onuachu but highly intelligent gaffer who know much about Nigeria national team will never pick Onuachu over Kelechi Iheanacho(reason why Rohr is failing)......with Rohr player like Siasia will not make US 94 squad,Owubokiri or Obiku would have been is preferred choice based on their club form.

Rohr just need to know his players and give us results.

Onuachu has been awful in eagles colour and the last time we reckoned with Belgium based players was in the late 80s and 90s.

I will rather pick 10 goals EPL scorer,12 bundesliga goals scorer,15 French league goalsscorer over 20 goals Belgium league scorer.

I don't rate the Belgium league though my opinion.
For sure I will also rather pick 10 epl 12 bundesliga 15 French league over a 20 goal Belgium scorer ,I will even pick a 7 Laliga goal scorer

But please where are the goal scorer in these league you mentioned ? We no even get 5 goal scorer from these leagues self

You don’t neee to rate Belgium league as the league you even mentioned are ahead of them

The only player I will gladly pick ahead of onachu is victor osimhen
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by zayyadidris(m): 10:39am On Dec 07, 2020
Subzero047:
Kane God bless you!!!
please can you help me with the link for the FPL.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 11:38am On Dec 07, 2020
godspeed:
grin
pidgin to the world grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Kog45(m): 1:10pm On Dec 07, 2020
andrewbaba44:
For sure I will also rather pick 10 epl 12 bundesliga 15 French league over a 20 goal Belgium scorer ,I will even pick a 7 Laliga goal scorer

But please where are the goal scorer in these league you mentioned ? We no even get 5 goal scorer from these leagues self

You don’t neee to rate Belgium league as the league you even mentioned are ahead of them

The only player I will gladly pick ahead of onachu is victor osimhen
Picking Onuachu after Osimehn is not the issue but do we keep on inviting misfiring Onuachu based on his club performances.

He has been given the opportunities and still yet failed to grab any,hope you remember that Onuachu was ahead of Osimehn at last afcon,have not seen any striker who enjoys this privileged...Nwakaeme a match,no call up again,Kayode few minutes,no call up again.

In my previous posts,i brought some critical analysis on how Westerhoff sample his players,club performance doesn't do it alone but player performance in GWG

My point is simple,Onuachu am seeing is not better that Iheanacho in GWG if Osimehn is not available
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by elyte89: 1:46pm On Dec 07, 2020
Kog45:
Picking Onuachu after Osimehn is not the issue but do we keep on inviting misfiring Onuachu based on his club performances.

He has been given the opportunities and still yet failed to grab any,hope you remember that Onuachu was ahead of Osimehn at last afcon,have not seen any striker who enjoys this privileged...Nwakaeme a match,no call up again,Kayode few minutes,no call up again.

In my previous posts,i brought some critical analysis on how Westerhoff sample his players,club performance doesn't do it alone but player performance in GWG

My point is simple,Onuachu am seeing is not better that Iheanacho in GWG if Osimehn is not available
D question is..looking @ nachos record in gwg colors in d last three years shows he's not ready to take dt second choice striker..If we can't b patient with onauchu to click ,den I would rada give a chance to any oda striker we av,d likes of maja,ajayi,nwakaeme,kayode etc to test deir mettle Dan give it to nacho with 4goals in d last 3years with eagles smiley
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by chrisooblog: 1:55pm On Dec 07, 2020
oga Kog the point i think Andrew is trying to make is that even the supposed backups that should be better than Onuachu are not posting numbers that could attract invitation to the SE. whether it's Okereke o! Awoniyi o! Moffi o! Maja o! you name them.

Even Kelechi that was recalled leaned heavily on his past exploits in the SE and not so much his current club performances.

Why i would encourage not to quickly give up on Paul is the example of Ighalo. remember Odion's performances in the GWG in his first 3 years were next to nothing but see how he turned out. Onuachu still has time to convince let's not totally dismiss him yet.

Kog45:
Picking Onuachu after Osimehn is not the issue but do we keep on inviting misfiring Onuachu based on his club performances.

He has been given the opportunities and still yet failed to grab any,hope you remember that Onuachu was ahead of Osimehn at last afcon,have not seen any striker who enjoys this privileged...Nwakaeme a match,no call up again,Kayode few minutes,no call up again.

In my previous posts,i brought some critical analysis on how Westerhoff sample his players,club performance doesn't do it alone but player performance in GWG

My point is simple,Onuachu am seeing is not better that Iheanacho in GWG if Osimehn is not available
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Eawwal(m): 2:39pm On Dec 07, 2020
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 3:14pm On Dec 07, 2020
zayyadidris:
please can you help me with the link for the FPL.
I don't know the link
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 3:18pm On Dec 07, 2020
Samatta tore the Belgian league apart but couldn't measure up in the EPL

Onuachu maybe scoring in Belgium but his performance against decent opposition is telling
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 3:21pm On Dec 07, 2020
People are blaming Rohr but I don't know if Rohr was the one that told Onuachu not to jump for aerial balls and to lose every ball with his bad first touch
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 3:34pm On Dec 07, 2020
mostob:
Bro..national team doesn't work like that bro. There is a reason why Giroud do get call up ahead of other France strikers. In national team, you pick what is best for the team not who is banging goals for his club side. Despite Paul's goals for his club, Nacho will still boss him in the national team. E get why.
Giroud gets called up because he links up better with Griezmann and Mbappe who are the star players of their attack. The other options(Laca, Martial, Yedder, etc) can't do the same.
Nacho as a focal point just doesn't work.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 4:02pm On Dec 07, 2020
Kog45:
Picking Onuachu after Osimehn is not the issue but do we keep on inviting misfiring Onuachu based on his club performances.

He has been given the opportunities and still yet failed to grab any,hope you remember that Onuachu was ahead of Osimehn at last afcon,have not seen any striker who enjoys this privileged...Nwakaeme a match,no call up again,Kayode few minutes,no call up again.

In my previous posts,i brought some critical analysis on how Westerhoff sample his players,club performance doesn't do it alone but player performance in GWG

My point is simple,Onuachu am seeing is not better that Iheanacho in GWG if Osimehn is not available
What opportunities

He has been misfiring just as the whole super eagles national team

Not that super eagles are playing superb while onauchu was misfiring

If you look at the super eagles team right now I don’t think you can call more than 4 players that are doing well for the team
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 4:24pm On Dec 07, 2020
andrewbaba44:
What opportunities

He has been misfiring just as the whole super eagles national team

Not that super eagles are playing superb while onauchu was misfiring

If you look at the super eagles team right now I don’t think you can call more than 4 players that are doing well for the team
Name one person Onuachu has performed better than since he has been called to the National team?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 4:32pm On Dec 07, 2020
chrisooblog:
oga Kog the point i think Andrew is trying to make is that even the supposed backups that should be better than Onuachu are not posting numbers that could attract invitation to the SE. whether it's Okereke o! Awoniyi o! Moffi o! Maja o! you name them.

Even Kelechi that was recalled leaned heavily on his past exploits in the SE and not so much his current club performances.

Why i would encourage not to quickly give up on Paul is the example of Ighalo. remember Odion's performances in the GWG in his first 3 years were next to nothing but see how he turned out. Onuachu still has time to convince let's not totally dismiss him yet.
Thank you for this jare
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 4:34pm On Dec 07, 2020
Subzero047:
Name one person Onuachu has performed better than since he has been called to the National team?
Check his caps and minutes compared to others player

Onauchu is not even a regular

Name 5 super eagles players with good form in the national team recently

Should we start from the midfield to some of the wingers ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 5:19pm On Dec 07, 2020
andrewbaba44:
Check his caps and minutes compared to others player

Onauchu is not even a regular

Name 5 super eagles players with good form in the national team recently

Should we start from the midfield to some of the wingers ?
Mtweew you didn't answer my question?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by hatakekakashi: 5:47pm On Dec 07, 2020
godspeed:
grin
Hope say na king power they play the match, make he no go break another club corner flag
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 8:02pm On Dec 07, 2020
Osimhen could return from 20th December
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 8:05pm On Dec 07, 2020
andrewbaba44:
What opportunities

He has been misfiring just as the whole super eagles national team

Not that super eagles are playing superb while onauchu was misfiring

If you look at the super eagles team right now I don’t think you can call more than 4 players that are doing well for the team
What dirty misfiring? Since his debut against Egypt, calculate how many goals we have scored and the number he has been involved in.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 8:30pm On Dec 07, 2020
Subzero047:
Osimhen could return from 20th December
It was that serious? Damn. He'll bounce back anyways
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Israel98(m): 8:31pm On Dec 07, 2020
Onuachu go dey score like lewandoski for im club, but for naija him go dey play like say im no get bone. IT OK................
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by chuks404: 8:46pm On Dec 07, 2020
kendrick93:
I made a simple comment and next thing i have butthurt fanboys attacking me in my mentions.
Truth is this thread doesn't like anyone speaking the truth,
anyone who does so is an hater/enemy...
Let me say it again, not everyone is a Zombie.
I will keep on posting my observations here,anyone who feels offended,
that's your own cup of tea.
Cheers...
true. You have right to to that. Let's just back it up with statistics and all that. We are all here for the good of Nigeria football beside this is super eagles trend. so you should expect bashing. When you back your statement with statistics it makes more sense and allow people to see another angle . Peace bro
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:01pm On Dec 07, 2020
Odunayaw:
What dirty misfiring? Since his debut against Egypt, calculate how many goals we have scored and the number he has been involved in.
How many goal has your others players scored

Tell me he has been playing 90 minutes

He is not the first choice striker

Apart from victor your strikers are below par

I won’t take people who wrote nwakaeme off with few minutes serious but they will always give excuse for their favorites who have not even been good
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 9:05pm On Dec 07, 2020
andrewbaba44:
How many goal has your others players scored

Tell me he has been playing 90 minutes

He is not the first choice striker

Apart from victor your strikers are below par

I won’t take people who wrote nwakaeme off with few minutes serious but they will always give excuse for their favorites who have not even been good
Has he consistently been given chances? Yes or no.

All these epistle don tire me.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by mostob(m): 9:44pm On Dec 07, 2020
edi287:
Giroud gets called up because he links up better with Griezmann and Mbappe who are the star players of their attack. The other options(Laca, Martial, Yedder, etc) can't do the same.
Nacho as a focal point just doesn't work.
The bolded is my point. Yedder, Martial and Laca were at a certain time better than Giroud but never get called up simply because they can't fit in. I hope those justifying Paul's inclusion due to his club form will be able to understand this.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Edopesin: 10:16pm On Dec 07, 2020
Groups- UEFA World Cup qualifiers

Belgium, France and England should have a stroll in this one

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EopxD3oXUAIPSpn.jpg
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:18pm On Dec 07, 2020
Odunayaw:
Has he consistently been given chances? Yes or no.

All these epistle don tire me.
He hasn’t

8 cap and 1 goal

I am sure you didn’t check the minute

Anytime you see onauchu in the field you expect him to score

You ignore your poor wingers because they are your favorites

There have been worst than onauchu the scape goat

Onauchu has played 288 minutes since his debut which is not more than 3 games in total But you expect him to Always score

A certain fan favorite nacho didn’t score for a full year with more minutes than onauchu and managed 1 goal in about years but it’s normal because of past Glory

I don’t like double standard

I will leave Ighalo history for another day
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:24pm On Dec 07, 2020
mostob:
The bolded is my point. Yedder, Martial and Laca were at a certain time better than Giroud but never get called up simply because they can't fit in. I hope those justifying Paul's inclusion due to his club form will be able to understand this.
Laca and martial and not even constitent

Yedder wasn’t given the chance

Giroud has done so well for France ,thanks to Benzema issues

French best defender is yet to have a cap too bad
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