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Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by Raydos: 1:36pm On Dec 11, 2020
Tokyo

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Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by sinkhole: 1:40pm On Dec 11, 2020
AbijaJ:
For Lagos to become like Tokyo, a lot of slums, shanties and substandard housing would have to be demolished. And any government that tries to do that would be considered 'anti-poor'. And such government would likely lose reelection, in a democratic setting because the backlash would be fierce. Only under an autocratic administration can such be achieved.
But what of Abuja that was built fresh?
The day I passed through Abuja during raining season, I was just SMH embarassed

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Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by Raydos: 1:47pm On Dec 11, 2020
sinkhole:
But what of Abuja that was built fresh?
The day I passed through Abuja during raining season, I was just SMH embarassed

Abuja is well planned when you view it aerially, But it doesn't have a drainage system, And the buildings are supposed to be beside the road, which will make the street more beautiful, But unfortunately, They have been Disfigured with indiscriminate Fencing

And any city that has no drainage system can't be regarded as a city, So Abuja is a village

Some villages abroad has a drainage system sef!!

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Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by AbijaJ: 1:54pm On Dec 11, 2020
sinkhole:
But what of Abuja that was built fresh?
The day I passed through Abuja during raining season, I was just SMH embarassed

Abuja held a lot of promise but the last time I visited there last month I was alarmed at the amount of shanties now dotting its landscape. Whole communities of shanties all over the place. IDP camps sef full everywhere. Abuja is retrogressing developmentally as far as I am concerned.

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Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by sinkhole: 1:55pm On Dec 11, 2020
Raydos:


Abuja is well planned when you view it aerially, But it doesn't have a drainage system, And most of the buildings are supposed to be beside the road, which will make the street more beautiful, But unfortunately, They have been Disfigured with indiscriminate Fencing

And any city that has no drainage system can't be regarded as a city, So Abuja is a village

Some villages abroad has a drainage system sef!!
grin grin Well planned without a drainage system grin
I can not understand the meaning of "well planned" again cheesy
I think you should say "Abuja looks beautiful from above, but it was not well planned as it lacks proper drainage system"

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Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by sinkhole: 1:59pm On Dec 11, 2020
AbijaJ:


Abuja held a lot of promise but the last time I visited there last month I was alarmed at the amount of shanties now dotting its landscape. Whole communities of shanties all over the place. IDP camps sef full everywhere. Abuja is retrogressing developmentally as far as I am concerned.
Lagos was also beautiful in the early days but gradually it degenerates, just the same way Abuja will go angry

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Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by AbijaJ: 2:11pm On Dec 11, 2020
sinkhole:
Lagos was also beautiful in the early days but gradually it degenerates, just the same way Abuja will go angry

Everyone knows that Lagos always had indigenous settlements (some of which later turned into slums) and which affected its urban planning efforts. E.g, isale Eko/Marina Central Business District (CBD) was built in the middle of Old settlements that had been in existence for hundreds of years, which affected its expansion. But the state government cleverly built other CBDs at Victoria Island and Ikoyi (and recently Lekki axis and Eko Atlantic city). But shanties also kept popping up here and there due to influx of low income earners/migrants who can't afford decent housing.

But Abuja was for the most part virgin land that was acquired by the FG, and deliberately planned from scratch. However, its original plan is no longer being followed as communities of shanties are taking over its landscape. I guess part of the reason is because even the government no longer has enough money to follow through its developmental ambitions for the FCT. Plus, the influx of Nigerians from low income cadre, who can't afford decent housing and are setting up shanties.
Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by sinkhole: 2:17pm On Dec 11, 2020
AbijaJ:


Everyone knows that Lagos always had indigenous settlements (some of which later turned into slums) and which affected its urban planning efforts. E.g, isale Eko/Marina Central Business District (CBD) was built in the middle of Old settlements that had been in existence for hundreds of years, which affected its expansion. But the state government cleverly built other CBDs at Victoria Island and Ikoyi (and recently Lekki axis and Eko Atlantic city). But shanties also kept popping up here and there due to influx of low income earners/migrants who can't afford decent housing.

But Abuja was for the most part virgin land that was acquired by the FG, and deliberately planned from scratch. However, its original plan is no longer being followed as communities of shanties are taking over its landscape. I guess part of the reason is because even the government no longer has enough money to follow through its developmental ambitions for the FCT.
Well, in the near future, Abuja will be worse than Lagos when people from Mali, Niger, Chad and other northern neighbouring countries flow-in enmass sad They will be accommodated in shanty towns and nobody will dare pursue them as they are brothers to our northern brothers smiley

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Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by AbijaJ: 2:25pm On Dec 11, 2020
sinkhole:
Well, in the near future, Abuja will be worse than Lagos when people from Mali, Niger, Chad and other northern neighbouring countries flow-in enmass sad They will be accommodated in shanty towns and nobody will dare pursue them as they are brothers to our northern brothers smiley

I hope it doesn't get to that, but that may be bound to happen if the North remains restive and if poverty doesn't abate because it would mean the majority of those moving there would poorer Nigerians who will end up creating more shanties. It is already happening, with several IDP camps popping up all over there. Most of the idp's camps in Abuja are populated by Northerns escaping boko haram, bandits, and other fallout of insecurity in the North.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/features/2018/3/26/thousands-displaced-by-boko-haram-languish-in-abuja-idp-camps

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Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by sinkhole: 2:38pm On Dec 11, 2020
AbijaJ:


I hope it doesn't get to that, but that may be bound to happen if the North remains restive and if poverty doesn't abate because it would mean the majority of those moving there would poorer Nigerians who will end up creating more shanties. It is already happening, with several IDP camps popping up all over there. Most of the idp's camps in Abuja are populated by Northerns escaping boko haram, bandits, and other fallout of insecurity in the North.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/features/2018/3/26/thousands-displaced-by-boko-haram-languish-in-abuja-idp-camps
OP actually asked a question and I think part of the answer is what we can call "feedback mechanism effect"
People go to Lagos to make money but when they eventually make the money in Lagos, they carry the money to Dubai, London, Maltese, etc to invest and spend, thereby leaving Lagos with no money to spend on infrastructure!
The same is true of all our cities including Abuja. If I may ask, how many times have you heard that the leaders of Japan left Japan to get medical help in America? Nothing like that will happen to leaders of other developed countries.
How many times have you heard that the children of these leaders went out of the country for schooling and never returned home again?
All the money that would have been wasted in medical tourism is being used to develop their hospitals and when they send their children out to school, it will be on purpose!
The truth is that Africa and Nigeria will keep becoming poorer everyday due to the actions of her own people while the developed countries will keep becoming richer with more beautiful infrastructures.
What is happening to Nigeria is called "Negative feedback"

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Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by Raydos: 3:40pm On Dec 11, 2020
sinkhole:
Well, in the near future, Abuja will be worse than Lagos when people from Mali, Niger, Chad and other northern neighbouring countries flow-in enmass sad They will be accommodated in shanty towns and nobody will dare pursue them as they are brothers to our northern brothers smiley


Right from the beginning, Abuja has never been beautiful to me, A city which has no city centre, And everywhere looks like a ghost town at night!

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Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by tsdarkside(m): 3:43pm On Dec 11, 2020
Raydos:


A typical black person can't think his way out of problems, And that factor is affecting all Black nations!!

No wonder we don't have any black successful country!!

none....kenyans or south africans can tout their horns as they like,they are still the same like other blacks....
Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by tsdarkside(m): 3:45pm On Dec 11, 2020
sinkhole:
OP actually asked a question and I think part of the answer is what we can call "feedback mechanism effect"
People go to Lagos to make money but when they eventually make the money in Lagos, they carry the money to Dubai, London, Maltese, etc to invest and spend, thereby leaving Lagos with no money to spend on infrastructure!
The same is true of all our cities including Abuja. If I may ask, how many times have you heard that the leaders of Japan left Japan to get medical help in America? Nothing like that will happen to leaders of other developed countries.
How many times have you heard that the children of these leaders went out of the country for schooling and never returned home again?
All the money that would have been wasted in medical tourism is being used to develop their hospitals and when they send their children out to school, it will be on purpose!
The truth is that Africa and Nigeria will keep becoming poorer everyday due to the actions of her own people while the developed countries will keep becoming richer with more beautiful infrastructures.
What is happening to Nigeria is called "Negative feedback"

you dont need to think that far....take that thing that black women put on their heads for example....

those things are very expensive....

and when a black person would produce it for them,they will not buy it....they rather buy foreighn....

soo,i just laugh when they complain how others are doing better than them....

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Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by Raydos: 3:47pm On Dec 11, 2020
tsdarkside:


none....kenyans or south africans can tout their horns as they like,they are still the same like other blacks....

I swear!!
Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by kendrick93(m): 4:01pm On Dec 11, 2020
tsdarkside:


none....kenyans or south africans can tout their horns as they like,they are still the same like other blacks....
Maybe but Johannesburg is one of the most beautiful cities in the world..
Along with Capetown.
No Nigerian city can even be compared

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Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by sinkhole: 4:10pm On Dec 11, 2020
tsdarkside:


you dont need to think that far....take that thing that black women put on their heads for example....

those things are very expensive....

and when a black person would produce it for them,they will not buy it....they rather buy foreighn....

soo,i just laugh when they complain how others are doing better than them....
mmmh, my brother.
I believe the musician Davido made some of his money in Lagos but he recently went to Dubai to buy shirts at about #400,000 per shirt, he bought like seven, while there he met the family of governor Bello of Kogi on spending spree! All these are money away from Nigeria and we are here saying that Lagos should be like Dubai, Tokyo, etc, how?

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Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by Savie(m): 4:22pm On Dec 11, 2020
Niger Delta will look more than Tokyo and Hong kong If the Nigeria government practice true federalism, devolution of powers to state government and make states to control their resources.!

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Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by tsdarkside(m): 5:02pm On Dec 11, 2020
sinkhole:
mmmh, my brother.
I believe the musician Davido made some of his money in Lagos but he recently went to Dubai to buy shirts at about #400,000 per shirt, he bought like seven, while there he met the family of governor Bello of Kogi on spending spree! All these are money away from Nigeria and we are here saying that Lagos should be like Dubai, Tokyo, etc, how?

na dem sabi....

what piss me off most is,they dont invest in themselfs but they will cry your ears full how its soo bad to be black,cursed....blablablabla....
Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by tsdarkside(m): 5:04pm On Dec 11, 2020
Savie:
Niger Delta will look more than Tokyo and Hong kong If the Nigeria government practice true federalism, devolution of powers to state government and make states to control their resources.!

it will not change anything when you have people that think like dino malaye....

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Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by popizaino(m): 5:45pm On Dec 11, 2020
Not adhering to plan
Culture
Government policies

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Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by Raydos: 6:31pm On Dec 11, 2020
popizaino:
Not adhering to plan
Culture
Government policies

Same factor is affecting all Black Nations

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Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by popizaino(m): 6:41pm On Dec 11, 2020
Raydos:


Same factor is affecting all Black Nations


Yes something wrong is wrong with black man
Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by AregbeFufu: 7:20pm On Dec 11, 2020
AdekunleScience:
Simple answer: Bulk of the revenues generated in Tokyo, NY, London etc stays in those cities. In the case of Lagos revenues generated from her critical infrastructure are taken to Abuja, where it is later shared to all states in the country, according to landmass, population and other ridiculous criteria.
And the money that was used in constructing those critical infrastructures,where did they come from?

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Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by Ayo2004: 7:32pm On Dec 11, 2020
When someone earning 35k in a month(not even up to 100$) marry,give birth to like 7 children and is still planning on birthing more and carrying side chicks...how do u expect Lagos to develop?if u go to places like Ikotun market and see the population congestion,the rate at which people pollute everywhere,unkempt children all over,u will understand that the Nigerian government is useless but Nigerians are adding more problems more themselves

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Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by Raydos: 7:45pm On Dec 11, 2020
Ayo2004:
When someone earning 35k in a month(not even up to 100$) marry,give birth to like 7 children and is still planning on birthing more and carrying side chicks...how do u expect Lagos to develop?if u go to places like Ikotun market and see the population congestion,the rate at which people pollute everywhere,unkempt children all over,u will understand that the Nigerian government is useless but Nigerians are adding more problems more themselves


Abeg that's not an excuse, Did you even read the post at all??

Tokyo alone has over 38million residents, that's two times higher than Lagos population, And yet it's not polluted, And one of the best cities in the world!!

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Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by Goahead(m): 8:04pm On Dec 11, 2020
Raydos:



Abeg that's not an excuse, Did you even read the post at all??

Tokyo alone has over 38million residents, that's two times higher than Lagos population, And yet it's not polluted, And one of the best cities in the world!!
Don't mind him. These gutters in Japan are so clean that even fishes that detest the slightest filth are living in them.

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Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by Guestlander: 8:05pm On Dec 11, 2020
Raydos:
This is tokyo in 1930 ooo


This was either Hiroshima or Nagasaki in 1945
Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by Raydos: 8:12pm On Dec 11, 2020
Goahead:
Don't mind him. These are gutters in Japan.


Chai see better gutter, If nah Lagos those fish gon don die as a result of Toxic smell and Dirt

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Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by AdekunleScience: 8:51pm On Dec 11, 2020
AregbeFufu:

And the money that was used in constructing those critical infrastructures,where did they come from?
From taxes paid by Yorubas to colonial and regional regional governments.
Examples:
1. Apapa port was established in 1913
2. Lagos International Airport, which was later reanamed to MMA was established in 1947
3. The industrial estates of APAPA, Ikeja, Ilupeju, Ogba etc. All built during regional government.
Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by AustineJohn908(m): 9:17pm On Dec 11, 2020
I know Uyo is not there yet but I'm hopeful Akwa ibom next Governor will concentrate on Infrastructures and beautifying Akwa ibom state in General.
I just pray we don't turn to Lagos that is unplanned and to populated or Abuja that is almost being over run with no Drinage system. Thankfully Akpabio Constructed a Drinage system in Uyo(Thank you Godswill)

All Akwa ibom need now is more investments into the state, big investments and Roads should be Constructed with sidewalks and cover drains.
I want to Thank all the Governors that have governed Akwa ibom state from Attah down to Udom now, I know you guys aren't perfect and you have stoled enough to last your generationa but nevertheless you guys kept alot of Ground to.

I want to Thank Udom for Ibomair, I know some Ibomites might think it a waste but I stay in Abuja and I can tell you I see Ibomair planes at least 3 times daily on the move(On an average)
With Ibomair many will love to invest in Akwa ibom seeing how successful it has become.

Akwa ibom is on the rise
Akwa ibom DAKKADA
AKWA IBOM AYAYA
ABASI ADIONG AKPABIO
ABASI ADIONG ATTAH
ABASI ADIONG UDOM

GOD bless Akwa ibom
GOD Bless Nigeria
Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by obonujoker(m): 9:30pm On Dec 11, 2020
Simplyleo:
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But Nnewi can be like Dubai.

Be reasonable guy... Face your benue, and think of how you can make it better ....
Re: Why Can't Lagos Be Like Tokyo? by MyGeneration(m): 9:38pm On Dec 11, 2020
Enudapan:
Nah eh! No qualms
This is so sophisticated
In as much as you are trying to compare Lagos to Tokyo
U should also be reminded that Tokyo is almost 2 times Lagos landmass (so the traffic wouldn't be much)
Also Tokyo has lot of amazing infrastructure which no other African city can boost of
Say what u know, tokyo is not 2 times lagos landmass. Only thing is just as lagos developed and expanded into ogun same happened to tokyo

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