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Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by Acehart: 4:40pm On Dec 13, 2020 |
TheWalkingMind: Let my friend answer. Thanks for your concern. 1 Like |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:50pm On Dec 13, 2020 |
TheWalkingMind: Yes! If not you would be suggesting that there are 2 "The Lord"! One in what you call Old Testament and Another in what you call the New Testament! 1 Like |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by Coinbased: 5:03pm On Dec 13, 2020 |
Jesus is lord 1 Like |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by slowice(m): 5:13pm On Dec 13, 2020 |
Christ said in the preceding verse that the sabbath was made for man.... Meaning that man ve control or authority over the sabbath but man ve no understanding of this . He is the son of man hence lord of the sabbath |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by Bodydiialect57: 5:21pm On Dec 13, 2020 |
Thank you for chasing away his ignorance. God bless you! Agbegbaorogboye: 1 Like |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by TheWalkingMind: 6:35pm On Dec 13, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker:Young man, Jesus wasn't the one that spoke to Moses. |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by massalati(m): 7:14pm On Dec 13, 2020 |
UsmanBabaIdris: Thank you so much, but i don't understand were you said i look for God in other religion. How is that even posible? |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by MuttleyLaff: 8:48pm On Dec 13, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: TheWalkingMind:If not Jesus, in a different capacity, then who was that spoke to Moses? |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:31pm On Dec 13, 2020 |
TheWalkingMind: Repeating your statement will not make it heavy, but I understand you are not able to bear the import and impact of that information, it's too much for your soul! 1 Like |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by TheWalkingMind: 9:54pm On Dec 13, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff:YHWH spoke to Moses. If that's your Jesus, even Jesus will call you a blasphemer |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by TheWalkingMind: 9:55pm On Dec 13, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker:Shining your teeth won't hide your ignorance |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by UsmanBabaIdris: 10:20pm On Dec 13, 2020 |
massalati:Go and study about Islam, for example, and see what it believe about God. I bet you, you will never be disappointed! |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by UsmanBabaIdris: 10:21pm On Dec 13, 2020 |
Acehart:Ask the demons themselves! 1 Like |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by UsmanBabaIdris: 10:23pm On Dec 13, 2020 |
Agbegbaorogboye:That is the right way! |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by UsmanBabaIdris: 10:24pm On Dec 13, 2020 |
Agbegbaorogboye:Thieves don't steal in the presence of owners! |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by UsmanBabaIdris: 10:32pm On Dec 13, 2020 |
Agbegbaorogboye:Even you know that God cannot have a son, because God does not copulate with anybody. Go and learn Biology very well and stop being a fool. Such stupid beliefs is what killed Christianity and made Scientists to remove God from their works. If you are Son of God, then tell us the relationship between God and your Mother! |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by UsmanBabaIdris: 10:40pm On Dec 13, 2020 |
Agbegbaorogboye:No wonder Christianity has thousands of denominations, with different beliefs, different versions of bible, different churches, and a christian cannot just see a church and enter to worship! Jesus said "..a house divide against itself cannot stand" So continues splitting! |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by UsmanBabaIdris: 10:42pm On Dec 13, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker:So how much have you followed this noble commandment? |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by UsmanBabaIdris: 10:46pm On Dec 13, 2020 |
Tcwork:The laws have changed but the bible is still there! The bible should provide justification for issues it raised, and not saddle ancient customs for evidence. |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:52pm On Dec 13, 2020 |
UsmanBabaIdris: You would not know! |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:57pm On Dec 13, 2020 |
TheWalkingMind: Knowledge makes a man grin leaving the fool cursing his back. |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:08pm On Dec 13, 2020 |
UsmanBabaIdris: The Laws have not changed for they are unchangable and everything there is Justified and some Evidence can still be seen tomorrow! It is rather men who changed by doing more and more wicked things, yet hoping God will not punish them! |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by massalati(m): 1:26am On Dec 14, 2020 |
UsmanBabaIdris: Islam and christianity what is the difference, i rather stick to christianity. islam is a violence religion or better still i will make my self a god and worship my self instead of islam god. 1 Like |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by MuttleyLaff: 2:23am On Dec 14, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: TheWalkingMind: MuttleyLaff: TheWalkingMind:What is the The Tetragrammaton or Tetragram saying? What are those innocent four Hebrew consonants YHWH asserting, insisting, declaring and/or making known? TheWalkingMind:"3Then Judas, after receiving a band and officers from the chief priests and Pharisees, came there with torches and lamps and weapons. 4Jesus, therefore, knowing all the things that were coming upon Him, went forward and said to them, "Who are you seeking?" 5They answered Him, "Jesus the Nazarean." Jesus said to them, "I AM" And Judas, who was betraying Him, was also standing with them. 6But when He said to them, "I AM'', they went backward and fell to the ground. 7Then He asked them again, "Who are you seeking?" And they said, "Jesus the Nazarean." 8Jesus answered, "I told you that, I AM. Therefore, if you are seeking Me, allow these to go their way" - John 18:3-8 Except for one is a Pharisee, aka Far-i-see, aka Far-to-see, why would anyone think that Yahshua Ha Mashiah aka Jesus Christ because someone acknowledged Him to be I AM, He will want to call such person, a blasphemer, hmm? |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by MuttleyLaff: 3:08am On Dec 14, 2020 |
Preciousgirl: UsmanBabaIdris: Agbegbaorogboye: Bodydiialect57: Tcwork: UsmanBabaIdris: Agbegbaorogboye: UsmanBabaIdris:"When you enter your neighbor's grainfield, you may pluck the heads of grain with your hand, but you must not put a sickle to your neighbor's grain." - Deuteronomy 23:25 "When you reap the harvest of your land, do not reap all the way to the edges of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest. Leave them for the poor and the foreign resident. I am the LORD your God.'"" - Leviticus 23:22 "8Boaz went over and said to Ruth, “Listen, my daughter. Stay right here with us when you gather grain; don’t go to any other fields. Stay right behind the young women working in my field. 9See which part of the field they are harvesting, and then follow them. I have warned the young men not to treat you roughly. And when you are thirsty, help yourself to the water they have drawn from the well.” 10Ruth fell at his feet and thanked him warmly. “What have I done to deserve such kindness?” she asked. “I am only a foreigner.” 15When Ruth went back to work again, Boaz ordered his young men, “Let her gather grain right among the sheaves without stopping her. 16And pull out some heads of barley from the bundles and drop them on purpose for her. Let her pick them up, and don’t give her a hard time!”" - Ruth 2:8-10, 15-16 "At about that time Jesus was walking through some grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry, so they began breaking off some heads of grain and eating them. - Matthew 12:1 Deuteronomy 23:25, Leviticus 23:22, Ruth 2:8-10, 15-16 and Matthew 12:1 above fyi @UsmanBabaIdris 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:50am On Dec 14, 2020 |
uthlaw:The man Peter was one of the chosen amongst the closest confidants of Jesus as an Apostle {Matthew 10:2-4} after Jesus' ascension to heaven God's holy spirit came to anoint over 120 disciples of Jesus as born again Christians {Act 2:1-3} Peter became the spokesman of these group just as Jesus asked him to do after his departure {Act 2:14, 3:6, 12 compared to John 21:15-17} So when talking about the foundation of the Christian faith today let everyone know that Peter's name has been written in heaven! Revelation 21:14 It was this same Apostle Peter who confirmed that Jesus was the prophet Moses talked about! Act 3:22-23 compared to Deuteronomy 18:15-18 Jesus was also telling the people,he is the one that will lead to God,whereas someone explain earlier that Jesus was talking about himself that he is the God.The bolded is a misconception, Jesus never said he is the God of Moses. Of course when Moses said "God will raise up from amongst the Israelites a prophet" like himself he was referring to his role in the deliverance of Israelites from Egyptian bondage, Jesus is the prophet who will free God's people from spiritual bondage. Satan is the God of this wicked system of things {2Corinthians 4:4 compared to 1John 5:19} that's been enslaving God's people both physically and spiritually, whoever will rescue God's people from this wicked spirit must also become a God in order to carry out such difficult task. That's why both Jesus and Moses became to be known as Gods! John 1:1 compared to Exodus 7:1 But there is someone far far greater than both Jesus and Moses {John 14:28} that's the person of JEHOVAH who sent both and empowered them to become Gods in order to defeat Satan and deliver God's people. Apostle Paul clearly explained that whatever position Jesus is holding presently will soon become history because Jesus must hand over everything back to the person who gave him the authority he has! 1Corinthians 15:26-28 compare to Matthew 28:18 All what these people are arguing about now was fabricated by a Roman Emperor in the 3rd century named "Constantinople" he wanted his empire to be strong so he merged the pagan Roman religion with the Apostates of Christianity back then. They instituted the TRINITY and ever since then nobody could define TRINITY up till now because it wasn't established under the inspiration of God's holy spirit. It's just a delusion! Thanks and may you have PEACE! 1 Like |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:11am On Dec 14, 2020 |
I was a Muslim, Islam is just like traditional religions practiced in different parts of the earth, if we are to preach and teach without the use of force or weapons Islam wouldn't have survived the 6th century after the death of Muhammad. Though i thought Christianity is just going to the church, singing, clapping, dancing and praying in Jesus name but when i studied true Christianity from the real Christians "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" i discovered that Jesus truthfully qualifies to be what the Bible called him "Wonderful Counselor and Prince of Peace" Isaiah 9:6 Just imagine a world without weapons and racism! No religion came a bit close to Jehovah's Witnesses in eradicating racism, politics and weapons in their midst! Micah 4:1-3 Forget about Islam, even Islamic nations still carry weapons to kill their fellow Muslim brothers due to racism and politics. That supposed to be a minor issue for Allah to resolve in the midst of those who usually bow down to it shoulder to shoulder before the black stone in Mecca. For Allah to have failed to make peace reign even in the midst of it's own adherents is clear indication that Allah is no God but a fabrication of a 6th century Arabian called Muhammad! UsmanBabaIdris: 1 Like |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by Tcwork: 6:46am On Dec 14, 2020 |
UsmanBabaIdris:Its clear you do not understand the purpose of the bible. The bible was not written to teach a history lesson or a lesson in culture and tradition. The bible was not written as a legal documents or to debate our points. The bible was written to lead men back to God through Jesus Christ. I actually understand your outrage at the fact that someone could just pluck corn from another man's farm. You are a moden guy. In 2020 it would be called stealing. But in the time of Christ it was no big deal. That was why, when the people saw Christ, they did not accuse him of stealing but of breaking the sabbath. There are so many things we can argue about in the bible but I guess the is to small to be one of such. Just understand that cultures are different. And you can do some research on Jewish customs to clear your doubts. After the research you would be thanking me. So when we start argument's over the irrelevant, we forget the weightier things. You are looking for a verse to expressly say that people are allower to pluck corn from others farms. If you have been following this thread someone already did that. But that isn't the point. The lesson here is about the sabbath |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by Tcwork: 7:00am On Dec 14, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse: |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by Tcwork: 7:47am On Dec 14, 2020 |
UsmanBabaIdris:As a Muslim, you should understand the change in tradition over time. For example Muhammad married 6 years old Aisha. In today's world, this would be seen as rape but in the 7th century it was in line with most cultures. The point is, what we call stealing today, was seen as okay 2000 years ago |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by TheWalkingMind: 8:53am On Dec 14, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff:lol...read what you cited again. And tell anyone you make sense. |
Re: Lord Of The Sabbath-what Did Jesus Mean Here? by UsmanBabaIdris: 9:25am On Dec 14, 2020 |
massalati:There is a big difference between Islam and Christianity, just as there are similarities. I can enlightened you if you wished. But you can help yourself by going through its literature. Take a look through a translated Quran and ponder. As for the violence aspect, that is what the media has made people to believe. Every religion has its fair share of violence. Christianity is even worse in that regards. Go and read christian history. Remember that the first and second world wars are the worst violence in human history till date, and they were fully perpetrated by christian nations. Remember the atrocities of the transatlantic slave trade, and the brutal extermination of over six million Jews by bible-reading German soldiers during Holocaust. Yet the media has pushed these to background and made people believed a handful of Muslim insurgents are the problem of humanity. I don't believed in judging any religion by the activities of few followers. The true teaching of every religion lies in its scripture. Overcoming this barrier is the true freedom. Therefore I will advice to go and learn about Islam, if you will. Doing that will not only help you to understand the religion, but even had a better understanding of what you are being told or heard about it. Peace be upon those who are guided! |
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