fashola-battles-to-justify-lasu-fee-hike


Okay. Not exactly what he said. But that is exactly what he implied. How much is the minimum wage of Lagos state civil servants? He seems to be out of touch and his statements are highly irresponsible!

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/12/fashola-battles-to-justify-lasu-fee-hike/

[b]Governor Babatunde Fashola battled hard weekend, to justify the astronomical hike in tuition fees recently introduced in Lagos State University, LASU, by the state government.[/b]Recall that the state government had increased tuition fees paid in the university from N25,000 to N250,000 per session.

Fashola, who spoke at Government College, Ughelli’s, annual luncheon party in Lagos, said Nigerians were unconsciously making the country one where there would be separate schools for the rich and poor.

According to him, critics of the increment are indirectly calling for a Nigerian society which will be divided into poor university for the poor and rich university for rich people.


He said: “Countries that do not prioritise education are always at the mercy of those who place a high premium on education.

“Where in the world have we seen tuition fee of university of N25,000? You cannot find this anywhere. Even the nations that are developed and wealthy do not give education for N25,000.

“LASU started very well and over the years, the population grew and beyond the available facilities and the school began to deteriorate. We are determined to rescue LASU and we will not make it a school for the poor.

“We are unconsciously making Nigeria a society where there will be a school for the rich and one for the poor.
“Several people in this country pay so much for education abroad while the schools here continue to deteriorate. It is only in the university that the children of the rich and children of the poor can sit in the same classroom.”

Fashola gaffed seriously.

This guy is mean.

seriuously though not everyone can or should go to university.

Many of you seem to have misread his statement.

His point is that without the fee increment, LASU will only be a university for the poor.

I.e., no middle class or wealthy will attend LASU.

He also explains why this is the happening. . . the facilities are crumbling, and thus the university is unattractive to anyone with means.

(Actually there is a slight hole in his argument. . . the money for upgrades doesn't necessarily have to come from tuition increases. But if not tuition increases, one wonders where the money should come from.)

Abeg jor LASU is in Lagos for goodness sake, that school should be upgraded simple, people make money in lagos hence should be able to pay the money if they really interested in education,

@ekt
State universies are known all over the world as a school for mostly lower class families.  If you take that away where will they go. Private universities are already there for the rich. This is a case of stealing from the poor to give to the rich.

asha 80:

seriuously though not everyone can or should go to university.

I think you do have a point. Not everyone can or should go to universities based on intellectual aptitude. However, I doubt the policy that people with the right mental aptitude should be denied tertiary education based on the financial means of their parents. Education remains the main tool of social mobility in Nigeria and it will be criminal (in my opinion) to deny anyone who has the right aptitude and is willing access to that education. I wonder how much Fasola paid at Uniben! Many of the politicians who benefited from free/subsidised aducation of past government are the ones now kicking away the ladders from younger generations.

ekt_bear:

Many of you seem to have misread his statement.

His point is that without the fee increment, LASU will only be a university for the poor.

I.e., no middle class or wealthy will attend LASU.

He also explains why this is the happening. . . the facilities are crumbling, and thus the university is unattractive to anyone with means.

(Actually there is a slight hole in his argument. . . the money for upgrades doesn't necessarily have to come from tuition increases. But if not tuition increases, one wonders where the money should come from.)

That is exactly the problem. You can't make Lasu an exclusive preserve of the rich. If you have to increase the fees, perhaps you make government funded loans available to the poorer students?

Also, in case it isn't clear. . . raiding the pockets of the wealthy is how many of these universities in at least the US pay for things.

I'm sure if you've browsed before and looked at the tuition of such schools, you see a ridiculous pricetag.

Rich dumb kids pay the full price. Think of the dumb kids of some rich doctor or lawyer. . . his kids don't quite have the brainpower to enter a good school and get a scholarship, but since the guy has money he'll just sent them to the best place the dumb kid gets into and won't mind paying $50k/year in tuition.

However, at that same university dumb kid A gets into, you have smarter poor kid B. Whose entire family earns less than $50k/year. Kid B will get a scholarship and probably end up only paying $20k/year or so.

So in a nutshell, the money raised from the rich is what universities use to provide for smart kids and the poor.

Basically if you drive away all the rich/middle class from your university, your university won't have any money.

It is much better for LASU to raise tuition to N1 million per year, and then out of these funds spend money upgrading their facilities and providing scholarships for smart kids and very, very poor kids than to keep tuition at N25K and just watch as everything slowly runs down.

Finally, LASU probably did not inflation-index their tuition, right? So it is quite likely that after inflation/depreciation, the N25K which students pay now is less than was paid in the 80s, or whenever the university was founded. Obviously, this  situation must be corrected.

tarano:

Abeg jor LASU is in Lagos for goodness sake, that school should be upgraded simple, people make money in lagos hence should be able to pay the money if they really interested in education,

How much is the minimum wage of Lagos state civil servants? Can the staff on minimum wage afford to send their children to school if they have to pay this rate?

ekt_bear:

Also, in case it isn't clear. . . raiding the pockets of the wealthy is how many of these universities in at least the US pay for things.

I'm sure if you've browsed before and looked at the tuition of such schools, you see a ridiculous pricetag.

Rich dumb kids pay the full price. Think of the dumb kids of some rich doctor or lawyer. . . his kids don't quite have the brainpower to enter a good school and get a scholarship, but since the guy has money he'll just sent them to the best place the dumb kid gets into and won't mind paying $50k/year in tuition.

However, at that same university dumb kid A gets into, you have smarter poor kid B. Whose entire family earns less than $50k/year. Kid B will get a scholarship and probably end up only paying $20k/year or so.

So in a nutshell, the money raised from the rich is what universities use to provide for smart kids and the poor.

Basically if you drive away all the rich/middle class from your university, your university won't have any money.

It is much better for LASU to raise tuition to N1 million per year, and then out of these funds spend money upgrading their facilities and providing scholarships for smart kids and very, very poor kids than to keep tuition at N25K and just watch as everything slowly runs down.

Finally, LASU probably did not inflation-index their tuition, right? So it is quite likely that after inflation/depreciation, the N25K which students pay now is less than was paid in the 80s, or whenever the university was founded. Obviously, this situation must be corrected.

I'm sure they do not pay 25K in the 80s. In fact the opposite was the case. Free everyting including meals and a ready job when you finish irrespective of who your father was!

pluto04:

I'm sure they do not pay 25K in the 80s. In fact the opposite was the case. Free everyting including meals and a ready job when you finish irrespective of who your father was!

not realistic these era.

pluto04:

I'm sure they do not pay 25K in the 80s. In fact the opposite was the case. Free everyting including meals and a ready job when you finish irrespective of who your father was!

Education is an expensive and valuable thing.

Let's assume temporarily for the sake of discussion that what you say is true.

Do you think it likely that Lagos will continue to be able to continue to dash out this expensive and valuable thing indefinitely?

Something even the US, a country 30 times richer per capita than Lagos cannot provide?

Nice one Governor Fashola!!! May God continue to give you wisdom!

See how the usual jokers twisted what the man said upside down.

Predictable people,

Everyone in Nigeria wants to go to University to be employed. Who will be the employer of over 10 million graduates every year (if not more)?? Fashola is right! This is a leader that thinks and does not conform, the type of leader we need in Nigeria.

jason123:

Everyone in Nigeria wants to go to University to be employed. Who will be the employer of over 10 million graduates every year (if not more)?? Fashola is right! This is a leader that thinks and does not conform, the type of leader we need in Nigeria.

change the educational system if you want a change in that mindset.

Every pepper seller and omo Igboro wants a degree. The Nigerian education system has been bastardized! In Nigeria, a first class graduate in Engineering cannot convert 100 cm to meters. This is a FIRST CLASS STUDENT!

We see most of them here in the UK, they do their masters 3 to 4 times before they actually pass! Shame!

LOL

Fashola - the man who is always right in the eye of some people.

jason123:

Every pepper seller and omo Igboro wants a degree. The Nigerian education system has been bastardized! In Nigeria, a first class graduate in Engineering cannot convert 100 cm to meters. This is a FIRST CLASS STUDENT!

We see most of them here in the UK, they do their masters 3 to 4 times before they actually pass! Shame!

Must you just talk for talking's sake? Bring the person here or find a way to prove the above statement or retract it fast.

Eko Ile:

See how the usual jokers twisted what the man said upside down.

Predictable people,

30+ years of amala politics and awoof mentality has unfortunately ruined the minds of several generations of Nigerians.

They seem to want the very best in life. . .but for free

And we wonder why corruption is so rampant in Nigeria, why nothing works properly.

The struggle continues. . .

jason123:

Every pepper seller and omo Igboro wants a degree. The Nigerian education system has been bastardized! In Nigeria, a first class graduate in Engineering cannot convert 100 cm to meters. This is a FIRST CLASS STUDENT!

We see most of them here in the UK, they do their masters 3 to 4 times before they actually pass! Shame!

 

seriuosly though this is a deficiency in the secondary school those guys went to.

ekt_bear link=topic=819351.msg9709833#msg9709833 date=1323208939[b:
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30+ years of amala politics and awoof mentality has unfortunately ruined the minds of several generations of Nigerians.[/b]

They seem to want the very best in life. . .but for free

And we wonder why corruption is so rampant in Nigeria, why nothing works properly.

The struggle continues. . .

. una no go kill me oo

werepeLeri:

LOL

Fashola - the man who is always right in the eye of some people.

Ogbeni, how was he wrong?? Prove you your case and I'll prove mine. I am not known to defend Fashola like a slave.
If we are all engineers, who will do the welding and bricklaying??

What we need is COMPULSORY FREE PRIMARY AND SECONDARY EDUCATION. That will make everyone literates. University is too far!


Again, well done Fashola!

werepeLeri:

Must you just talk for talking's sake? Bring the person here or find a way to prove the above statement or retract it fast.

Keep quiet jor! Go to the career section, you'll see some crazy stories. Also, my uncle works in the oil industry in Nigeria, he tells us these stories.

na wa o. people don't know that there was a time university education was completely free in Nigeria.
these thieves would never allow poor people survive  

asha 80:


 

seriuosly though this is a deficiency in the secondary school those guys went to.

Man, the university system needs some MAJOR restructuring!

jason123:

Ogbeni, how was he wrong?? Prove you your case and I'll prove mine. I am not known to defend Fashola like a slave.
If we are all engineers, who will do the welding and bricklaying??

What we need is COMPULSORY FREE PRIMARY AND SECONDARY EDUCATION. [/b]That will make everyone literates. University is too far!


[b]Again, well done Fashola!

gbam. something i have always told guys here.a sound primary and secondary school education is enough to make one literate.university education is simply SPECIALIZATION IN AN AREA,

i listened to a program on radio continental a few days ago when citizen jones was hosting some university students.o boy come see knockouts and bangers flying in from diffferent angles    .

someone who could not stomach it had to call the program to ask if those guys were actually undergraduates?

Several people in this country pay so much for education abroad while the schools here continue to deteriorate

true talk.

jason123:

Man, the university system needs some MAJOR restructuring!

we have to start from primary school in my own opinion.if you miss out on a good primary and secondary education(especially secondary) you go hear am.

later una go begin dey cry about the falling standard of our education.

University education is never, and should never be free or as ridiculously cheap as it used to be. thats why nobody respects our degrees.

asha 80:

gbam. something i have always told guys here.a sound primary and secondary school education is enough to make one literate.university education is simply SPECIALIZATION IN AN AREA,

i listened to a program on radio continental a few days ago when [b]citizen jones was hosting some university students.o boy come see knockouts and bangers flying in from diffferent angles[/b]    .

someone who could not stomach it had to call the program to ask if those guys were actually undergraduates?

 

That's why Nigerian multinationals keep employing foreign graduates to home trained. Its a shame! Everyone goes to university, not because they want to learn but because they want a "degree". Yet, a "chemist" will find difficulty doing simply titration. An Engineer cannot do simply maths. A doctor does not know where the liver is located(check the career section you'll be amazed).