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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 11:21am On Dec 16, 2020
igbizen:
At last there is peace.
grin
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by talktrue1(m):
Sukuk Bond 3 first maturity is today. Has anyone received proceed
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Myhelper1: 2:21pm On Dec 16, 2020
talktrue1:
Sukuk Bond 3 first maturity is today. Has anyone received proceed
No
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by oludy: 3:24pm On Dec 16, 2020
talktrue1:
Sukuk Bond 3 first maturity is today. Has anyone received proceed
We dey wait oo.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ukay2: 3:28pm On Dec 16, 2020
oludy:
We dey wait oo.
If its today, you should get it before 10pm today....you may not get alert message

So just check your account balance, the coupon credit may enter Nicodemously grin grin
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by RayRay06677(m): 4:31pm On Dec 16, 2020
Myhelper1:
No
sukuk is ponzi
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 4:58pm On Dec 16, 2020
MMF is still more popular among retail investors based on the fact sheet of FBN Asset Management.


N221 billion under management for money market fund, compared to N19 billion for the fixed income fund

Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Myhelper1: 4:59pm On Dec 16, 2020
RayRay06677:
sukuk is ponzi
It can't be, it is not MBA. grin
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 5:02pm On Dec 16, 2020
Myhelper1:
It can't be, it is not MBA. grin
You people just like wahala, he only shared his opinion based on his knowledge and understanding. So let him be.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 5:04pm On Dec 16, 2020
Myhelper1:
It can't be, it is not MBA. grin
He will share the fact sheet of MBA with us, so that we can analysis and discussion the fund performance
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Myhelper1: 5:05pm On Dec 16, 2020
emmanuelewumi:
You people just like wahala, he only shared his opinion based on his knowledge and understanding. So let him be.
His knowledge and understanding that did not tell him MBA was ponzi.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Mills55: 5:10pm On Dec 16, 2020
emmanuelewumi:
He will share the fact sheet of MBA with us, so that we can analysis and discussion the fund performance
Please Pa Emma. What's your advice about VGIF? I need to know how reliable it is please, because I need to make a decision based on their 7.5% roi. My priority is my capital please.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by RayRay06677(m): 5:16pm On Dec 16, 2020
Myhelper1:
It can't be, it is not MBA. grin
My brother, according to nairaland, any investment that fails to pay on due date is a ponzi scheme
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by OgogoroFreak(m):
RayRay06677:
My brother, according to nairaland, any investment that fails to pay on due date is a ponzi scheme
No wahala. Whenever you see 20% - 105% per month ROI make you invest your life savings and let us know so we can learn.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Myhelper1: 5:24pm On Dec 16, 2020
RayRay06677:
My brother, according to nairaland, any investment that fails to pay on due date is a ponzi scheme
The day is not over yet.

Sukuk bonds 1, 2 and 3 are issued by FGN.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 5:26pm On Dec 16, 2020
Myhelper1:
His knowledge and understanding that did not tell him MBA was ponzi.
We are all differently and wonderfully made by God, our knowledge, understanding and experience differ.

Whatever happens to his Investment in that Scheme will become an experience and an additional knowledge for him.

My wife's 900k is still will NOSPETCO for the past 13 years, I have also lost money in some real estate and stock market Investments, but all these made me wiser, more knowledgeable and a better person
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 5:26pm On Dec 16, 2020
emmanuelewumi:
MMF is still more popular among retail investors based on the fact sheet of FBN Asset Management.


N221 billion under management for money market fund, compared to N19 billion for the fixed income fund
Could it be the shorter holding period that makes MMF more attractive for retail guys?

But sir, these YTD and 2019 returns for the FI fund are crazy o shocked. This is the highest in the market by far. How are they able to do it? Isn’t it the same FGN bonds that other FI funds that are yielding 5 to 8% are invested in?

By the time you take away the expense ratio of around 1.5% for MMF, won’t the investors be better off just investing directly in Tbills? grin
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 5:27pm On Dec 16, 2020
Myhelper1:
The day is not over yet.

Sukuk bonds 1, 2 and 3 are issued by FGN.
You should receive your alert by midnight
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 5:32pm On Dec 16, 2020
Lazyyouth4u:
Could it be the shorter holding period for MMF?

But sir, these YTD and 2019 returns are crazy o shocked. This is the highest in the market by far. How are they able to do it? Isn’t it the same FGN that other FI funds that are yielding 5 to 8% are invested in?

By the time you take away the expense ratio for MMF, won’t the investors be better off just investing in Tbills? grin
Money Market fund is currently better than Treasury Bills, the fund managers Invest in money market instruments like Treasury Bills, Commercial Papers, Fixed deposits and call deposits. If you have up to N100 million and above you can still negotiate 6% and above for your fixed deposit and call deposits, average yield for Commercial papers is still more than 4%
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody:
emmanuelewumi:
Money Market fund is currently better than Treasury Bills, the fund managers Invest in money market instruments like Treasury Bills, Commercial Papers, Fixed deposits and call deposits. If you have up to N100 million and above you can still negotiate 6% and above for your fixed deposit and call deposits, average yield for Commercial papers is still more than 4%
Okay. But those returns are gross returns. Take away like 1.5% for expenses, and the MMF returns will start looking like what you will get if you just kukuma did CP or T bills directly grin

But I was talking about the Fixed Income fund. It looks very interesting. How are they able to make such returns?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by RayRay06677(m): 5:49pm On Dec 16, 2020
OgogoroFreak:
No wahala. Whenever you 20% - 105% per month ROI make you invest your life savings and let us know so we can learn.
LIFE IS FUN, Lets keep it at that, nothing is worth dying for. No regrets but as a matter of fact its learning. Always keep it on the low
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 5:53pm On Dec 16, 2020
Lazyyouth4u:
Most people don’t have 100m. I’m talking about hungry lazy youths. Those returns are gross returns. Take away like 1.5% for expenses, and the returns will start looking like what you will get if you just kukuma did CP or T bills directly grin

But I was talking about the Fixed Income fund. It looks very interesting. How are they able to make such returns?
Fund managers have tens and hundreds of billions of Naira, so they can get such rates. I gave reasons why they are currently better than Treasury Bills
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 5:55pm On Dec 16, 2020
Lazyyouth4u:
Most people don’t have 100m. I’m talking about hungry lazy youths. Those returns are gross returns. Take away like 1.5% for expenses, and the returns will start looking like what you will get if you just kukuma did CP or T bills directly grin

But I was talking about the Fixed Income fund. It looks very interesting. How are they able to make such returns?
Fixed income funds are invested in FG bonds, State bonds and corporate bonds
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 5:59pm On Dec 16, 2020
emmanuelewumi:
Fixed income funds are invested in FG bonds, State bonds and corporate bonds
Most of these bonds are currently selling at a premium of 50% or there about, Dr Ukay correct me if I am wrong you are the in-house bond Investment expert
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 6:00pm On Dec 16, 2020
emmanuelewumi:
Fixed income funds are invested in FG bonds, State bonds and corporate bonds
But other FI funds are also invested in the same FGN bonds and their returns are currently around 6 to 8%. The yields I’m seeing there for FI fund are over 20%. Anyway, I was just wondering aloud.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DeSepiero(m): 6:06pm On Dec 16, 2020
Good evening people.
Following the FEC resolution to open land borders, what are the likely implications on the forex, food inflation and the economy in the coming weeks?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 6:07pm On Dec 16, 2020
Lazyyouth4u:
But other FI funds are also invested in the same FGN bonds and their returns are currently around 6 to 8%. The yields I’m seeing there for FI fund are over 20%. Anyway, I was just wondering aloud.
Smart investors are cashing out, some bonds bought at N100 are now selling for N150. Very possible the fund managers sold some and invested in fixed deposit.

The balanced fund is also not doing badly, they invest in equities, money market and fixed income
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 6:10pm On Dec 16, 2020
A bond of N100 that was supposed to pay you a coupon of N15, if it now sells at N150 in the secondary market and still pay N15. The investment is still better than Treasury Bills
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by TransAtlanticEx(m): 6:11pm On Dec 16, 2020
DeSepiero:
Good evening people.
Following the FEC resolution to open land borders, what are the likely implications on the forex, food inflation and the economy in the coming weeks?
Nothing.
Wetin cause inflation na fx scarcity,and I no see how border reopening will help fx flow in Nigeria.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by IyawoToBe(f): 6:15pm On Dec 16, 2020
emmanuelewumi:
You should receive your alert by midnight
Alert in grin I just did a happy dance
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 6:15pm On Dec 16, 2020
Secondary market prices for some bonds sent to me by Afrinvest.

Obaseki the governor of Edo State is the founder of Afrinvest


Some of the bonds have even gained 100%

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