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Re: Why Do You Still Believe In God, by Dtruthspeaker: 11:18am On Dec 21, 2020
Hakeem12:
it's impossible for a creator who doesn't want you to ask questions to give you the ability to do so. It's impossible for a creator who doesn't want you to be logical to give you a brain capable of logic. Your assertion is baseless.

grin I could not have found a better rebuttal, Sweet Kay, Oooh! grin grin

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Re: Why Do You Still Believe In God, by Dtruthspeaker: 11:36am On Dec 21, 2020
Hakeem12:

So you believe Adam and Eve populated the whole planet? That all the races of the earth came from them?

Your confusion is openly exhibited for the proof of Adam and Eve populating the world is seen in seen even in plants and animals Exactly As it is Written.

Plant a pawpaw seed and you would have a pawpaw plantation; put male and female chickens and you would have a poultry.

Hakeem12:

And that despite all that, god decided to stick to a specific race and call them his people? The rest of us were created by Satan?

You do the same too, Lecturers talks Directly to Class Rep, the information transmitted to one reaches all, same as Boo hari tells Lie Moo, the information reaches all Nigerians.

It is simply the Power of One
Re: Why Do You Still Believe In God, by Hakeem12(m): 11:50am On Dec 21, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


Your confusion is openly exhibited for the proof of Adam and Eve populating the world is seen in seen even in plants and animals Exactly As it is Written.

Plant a pawpaw seed and you would have a pawpaw plantation; put male and female chickens and you would have a poultry.



You do the same too, Lecturers talks Directly to Class Rep, the information transmitted to one reaches all, same as Boo hari tells Lie Moo, the information reaches all Nigerians.

It is simply the Power of One


So you actually believe the first human was made from sand and the female from his rib cage. Their is scientific evidence that the first humans were black, do you admit Adam and eve were black?

The lecturer - class rep analogy makes no sense in this context, we are not discussing leadership or academics, we are discussing salvation, life here and in the hereafter. One parents for example can't just say one of our siblings is their favorite, and the rest of us must emulate their life choices. Based on what? The first case of ethic discrimination began in the bible, so glaring a ten year old wouldn't miss it.

No race is superior to the other, and no one is selected to pass on any message, my skin being black doesn't make me inferior. If there's any truth to this, let your god declare this himself. Who appointed anyone his spokesperson?

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Re: Why Do You Still Believe In God, by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:59am On Dec 21, 2020
This are the promises found WRITTEN in an ancient book known as the "Bible"

During a time when racism and politics causes intense hatred affecting all the inhabitants of the earth, a group of people will emerge and form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers, they will detest weapons, they will settle all racial differences and they will all worship one God shoulder to shoulder just like one family! {Isaiah 2:1-4} There will not be found any misunderstanding amongst them it will be as if they are speaking the same language! Zephaniah 3:9

In my own generation a global family of peace loving worshipers truly emerged out of all the nations of the earth and they've separated themselves as if they all belong to one God and LOVE, JOY and PEACE is reigning in their midst!

Well i will stop believing in God when JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION disappear from this planet, as long as this unimaginable group exists there is no doubt, the one who made such promise certainly exists even if i can't see him i can see his works "Jehovah's Witnesses" smiley
Re: Why Do You Still Believe In God, by Dtruthspeaker: 12:18pm On Dec 21, 2020
Hakeem12:

So you actually believe the first human was made from sand and the female from his rib cage. Their is scientific evidence that the first humans were black, do you admit Adam and eve were black?

The first Truth and the Highest Truth is that you and I and Everyone else Can Not Know and Can never Know how we were manufactured.

It is an impossibility because NONE of us made ourselves just like the phone in your hand can not know it's manufacturing processes.

It is Only the Creator that can validly give us that information eg Steve Jobs and co would say "I used so so chips, plastics and wires to make you iPhone", chips and plastics do not make sense to the iPhone only the wires which it can see inside.

So also the use of "Dust" can not make any sense to you.

Funny enough it is even Proven that we come from dust in that when you die, THE BODY, BONES AND ALL INDEED TURN TO DUST.

So we may never have seen the beginning but surely we have seen that the end Proves the beginning.

Hakeem12:

The lecturer - class rep analogy makes no sense in this context, we are not discussing leadership or academics, we are discussing salvation, life here and in the hereafter. One parents for example can't just say one of our siblings is their favorite, and the rest of us must emulate their life choices. Based on what? The first case of ethic discrimination began in the bible, so glaring a ten year old wouldn't miss it.

No! This is Not True and you are have been misinformed.

It is rather a case where A Father chose the Best and Worst of us, and made him an Example for both the Best and Worst things for the other children to decide which Action they would prefer, whether the best or the worsts.

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Re: Why Do You Still Believe In God, by atheistandproud(m): 12:31pm On Dec 21, 2020
I have seen some dumb arguments in favor of creationism or the god concept but to argue and infer/compare intelligent people to inanimate objects such as cars and keys beats my imagination.

I'm enjoying the show.

Encore.

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Re: Why Do You Still Believe In God, by Dtruthspeaker: 12:37pm On Dec 21, 2020
atheistandproud:
I have seen some dumb arguments in favor of creationism or the god concept but to argue and infer/compare intelligent people to inanimate objects such as cars and keys beats my imagination.

I'm enjoying the show.

Encore.

As long as you did not create yourself, you really have no say when Some one Who is Not like you, Claims to have made you.

That is what it means to have never created yourself like the phone and cars never created themselves, THEY ARE NOT EVEN IN POSITION TO CONTEST OWNERSHIP!
Re: Why Do You Still Believe In God, by Nobody: 12:41pm On Dec 21, 2020
I don't believe in God.

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Re: Why Do You Still Believe In God, by Dtruthspeaker: 12:46pm On Dec 21, 2020
Heartlessbanker:
I don't believe in God.

That's fine! That is the exercise of the Permission/Rights giving you!

Thus, You have done what you please, therefore, every One who has A Right to Do what they please can come and do what they please! grin

It's Pleasure Time! grin

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Re: Why Do You Still Believe In God, by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:06pm On Dec 21, 2020
Because you've not thought of the reason to do so, makes that your PERSONAL opinion! smiley

Heartlessbanker:

I don't believe in God.
Re: Why Do You Still Believe In God, by Nobody: 1:28pm On Dec 21, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


It's your kind who asked Stupid Questions and compelling us to answer it.

Now we have answered it and now you are complaining again claiming it was "a stupid question", was it not a stupid question even before you demanded us to answer?

Abeg, chill!
Pure nonsense!!!
Atheists don't ask who created bla bla bla!!!!
You're wrong!!!!
Re: Why Do You Still Believe In God, by shadeyinka(m): 1:36pm On Dec 21, 2020
Hakeem12:
Do you have any memory of a previous existence prior to this? Do you remember your time in heaven? Our lives begin here on earth the day we were born and end the day we die
I remember that a foetus said the same thing too.
He said: our lives begin here in the womb and end here in the womb.

He won all his arguments because not one foetus has been able to come back into the womb to report the existence of a non-theathered air breathing existence where sunshine greets the flowers and the space is like infinite!

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Re: Why Do You Still Believe In God, by Nobody: 1:37pm On Dec 21, 2020
Hakeem12:
it's impossible for a creator who doesn't want you to ask questions to give you the ability to do so. It's impossible for a creator who doesn't want you to be logical to give you a brain capable of logic. Your assertion is baseless.
Pure nonsense!!!
It's impossible for someone to do what he or she can't do!!!!
Why are you talking about "giving brains"" when nobody can do it?
The answer is that you want to make yourself sound intelligent.
But your brain has failed towards that.
Re: Why Do You Still Believe In God, by Hakeem12(m): 2:11pm On Dec 21, 2020
HellVictorinho:

Pure nonsense!!!
It's impossible for someone to do what he or she can't do!!!!
Why are you talking about "giving brains"" when nobody can do it?
The answer is that you want to make yourself sound intelligent.
But your brain has failed towards that.
I expected this, you lots resort to insults when you have nothing else to say, have a nice day.
Re: Why Do You Still Believe In God, by Nobody: 2:13pm On Dec 21, 2020
Hakeem12:
I expected this, you lots resort to insults when you have nothing else to say, have a nice day.
What were you expecting me to say?
Re: Why Do You Still Believe In God, by Nobody: 2:14pm On Dec 21, 2020
Hakeem12:
I expected this, you lots resort to insults when you have nothing else to say, have a nice day.
Why are you talking about "giving brains' ?
Re: Why Do You Still Believe In God, by Nobody: 2:30pm On Dec 21, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


That's fine! That is the exercise of the Permission/Rights giving you!

Thus, You have done what you please, therefore, every One who has A Right to Do what they please can come and do what they please! grin

It's Pleasure Time! grin
I dont' know who you are, and i probably don't give a damn about who you are. But please, never in your life quote this moniker till the time you leave this earth.

good day sir!
Re: Why Do You Still Believe In God, by Dtruthspeaker: 3:34pm On Dec 21, 2020
HellVictorinho:

Pure nonsense!!!
Atheists don't ask who created bla bla bla!!!!
You're wrong!!!!

Ahan, their posts are scattered about Nairaland!
Re: Why Do You Still Believe In God, by TruthSeeker1: 4:13pm On Dec 21, 2020
I do not believe in a personal God that dwells in heaven or a "spiritual realm" as many religions do. However, the undeniable fact that things exist, both animate and inanimate, in a seemingly orderly and perhaps coordinated system makes me believe that there is some sort of intelligent force behind existence. It is this creative, intelligent force that I consider to be GOD.

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Re: Why Do You Still Believe In God, by Lifepodcastng: 4:15pm On Dec 21, 2020
I like that you’re informed. It’s not a lie that the verses of the Bible were debated and some of the actual verses were removed and some words changed to suit the political or psychomental manipulative need of the ruling class. I know this and I’m aware of certain places of the Bible where there might have been some change. Now here’s my question: if God is aware of these changes, do you think he might find a way to still pass the information in the Bible still? Have you wondered why there are four Gospels in the Bible lastly does these changes invalidate the life of Jesus or his purpose. Sometimes I think we shouldn’t be wise in our own eyes, let’s humble ourselves and maybe we might see. Do you also know that if God is aware of these changes then all that changes becomes invalidated? Lastly, have you really read the Bible to understand its words?


Hakeem12:
So you believe Adam and Eve populated the whole planet? That all the races of the earth came from them? And that despite all that, god decided to stick to a specific race and call them his people? The rest of us were created by Satan? Bruv, one doesn't need to go deep into religion to now it is a badly written script, a comic farce. My dad is a Muslim, an Islamic scholar, and my mum a christian, a Catholic. I've had a taste of both worlds, went to a Catholic boarding school and also Islamic school.

Do you even know the verses in the bible were voted to be put there? That all the stories in the bible were modelled after ancient religions before it. Your pastors know this. The rich ones are in business, the poor ones still believe their delusions. See, there's a lot to say and so little time. But the first path to sanity is asking questions.

Mr gadodoko, throughout history, there are two forces that have always been at war with each other. Those who command, those who repress, who don't want us to conscious enquiring beings,....and those who want us to be stronger, wiser, to explore. The most dangerous people in the world Mr gadodoko are not witches, nor wizards nor scientists, they are religious people when their gods are threatened.
Re: Why Do You Still Believe In God, by Lifepodcastng: 4:17pm On Dec 21, 2020
Oh really? Do you think evolution had the answers to life


HellVictorinho:

Religion provides answers to stupid questions such as who created this or that?
Creationism is pure nonsense.
Re: Why Do You Still Believe In God, by kkins25(m): 5:00pm On Dec 21, 2020
Hakeem12:
The most dangerous people in the world Mr gadodoko are not witches, nor wizards nor scientists, they are religious people when their gods are threatened.
i hope someone on my friend list would see this......the person knows the persons self.
Re: Why Do You Still Believe In God, by kkins25(m): 5:06pm On Dec 21, 2020
Lifepodcastng:
I like that you’re informed. It’s not a lie that the verses of the Bible were debated and some of the actual verses were removed and some words changed to suit the political or psychomental manipulative need of the ruling class. I know this and I’m aware of certain places of the Bible where there might have been some change. Now here’s my question: if God is aware of these changes, do you think he might find a way to still pass the information in the Bible still? Have you wondered why there are four Gospels in the Bible lastly does these changes invalidate the life of Jesus or his purpose. Sometimes I think we shouldn’t be wise in our own eyes, let’s humble ourselves and maybe we might see. Do you also know that if God is aware of these changes then all that changes becomes invalidated? Lastly, have you really[b] read the Bible to understand its words?[/b]
The brain is a very tricky organ, when faced with a problem- rather than burn calories which are expensive, it rather finds another delusion and perfectly incorporate it into the previous belief system to escape the dilemma or the strains of the thinking phenomena. I hope someday, the majority(where you belong) would find the strength to command their brains to accept change and bear the terrific work of thinking.

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Re: Why Do You Still Believe In God, by Hakeem12(m): 5:08pm On Dec 21, 2020
Lifepodcastng:
I like that you’re informed. It’s not a lie that the verses of the Bible were debated and some of the actual verses were removed and some words changed to suit the political or psychomental manipulative need of the ruling class. I know this and I’m aware of certain places of the Bible where there might have been some change. Now here’s my question: if God is aware of these changes, do you think he might find a way to still pass the information in the Bible still? Have you wondered why there are four Gospels in the Bible lastly does these changes invalidate the life of Jesus or his purpose. Sometimes I think we shouldn’t be wise in our own eyes, let’s humble ourselves and maybe we might see. Do you also know that if God is aware of these changes then all that changes becomes invalidated? Lastly, have you really read the Bible to understand its words?


Jesus Christ was a historical figure of staggering influence, perhaps the most enigmatic and inspirational leader the world has ever seen. As the prophesied Messiah, Jesus toppled kings, inspired millions, and founded new philosophies. As a descendant of the lines of King Solomon and King David, Jesus possessed a rightful claim to the throne of the King of the Jews. Understandably, His life was recorded by thousands of followers across the land.

More than eighty gospels were considered for the New Testament, and yet only a relative few were chosen for inclusion—Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John among them.

The fundamental irony of Christianity. The Bible, as we know it today, was collated by the pagan Roman emperor Constantine the Great

He was a lifelong pagan who was baptized on his deathbed, too weak to protest. In Constantine's day, Rome's official religion was sun worship—the cult of Sol Invictus, or the Invincible Sun—and Constantine was its head priest. Unfortunately for him, a growing religious turmoil was gripping Rome.

Three centuries after the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, Christ's followers had multiplied exponentially. Christians and pagans began warring, and the conflict grew to such proportions that it threatened to rend Rome in two. Constantine decided something had to be done. In 325 A.D., he decided to unify Rome under a single religion. Christianity.

Constantine was a very good businessman. He could see that Christianity was on the rise, and he simply backed the winning horse. Historians still marvel at the brilliance with which Constantine converted the sun-worshipping pagans to Christianity. By fusing pagan symbols, dates, and rituals into the growing Christian tradition, he created a kind of hybrid religion that was acceptable to both parties.

Transmogrification; The vestiges of pagan religion in Christian symbology are undeniable. Egyptian sun disks became the halos of Catholic saints. Pictograms of Isis nursing her miraculously conceived son Horus became the blueprint for our modern images of the Virgin Mary nursing Baby Jesus. And virtually all the elements of the Catholic ritual—the miter, the altar, the doxology, and communion, the act of "God-eating"—were taken directly from earlier pagan mystery religions.

Christianity honored the Jewish Sabbath of Saturday, but Constantine shifted it to coincide with the pagan's veneration day of the sun. To this day, most churchgoers attend services on Sunday morning with no idea that they are there on account of the pagan sun god's weekly tribute—Sunday.

My good sir, this is where the council of niccea comes in. At this gathering, many aspects of Christianity were debated and voted upon—the date of Easter, the role of the bishops, the administration of sacraments.

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Re: Why Do You Still Believe In God, by Gadodoko: 5:18pm On Dec 21, 2020
HE WAS TALKING ABOUT GOD BUT NOW TALK OF A DIFFERENT ENTITY FROM GOD. EVERY ONE HAS HIS PREROGATIVE. IF U SEE ANY LIMITATION IN UR EXISTANCE, THAT IS ENOUGH TO TELL U A SUPREME BEEN EXIST WITH NO LIMITATION.
kkins25:
i hope someone on my friend list would see this......the person knows the persons self.
Re: Why Do You Still Believe In God, by truespeak: 5:28pm On Dec 21, 2020
Heartlessbanker:
I dont' know who you are, and i probably don't give a damn about who you are. But please, never in your life quote this moniker till the time you leave this earth.

good day sir!

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@ Dtruthspeaker, you touched, no, you broke a nerve!
Re: Why Do You Still Believe In God, by Dtruthspeaker: 5:48pm On Dec 21, 2020
truespeak:


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@ Dtruthspeaker, you touched, no, you broke a nerve!

Omo see para, see banger and knockouts! She thought we would be coming to beg her as some Wrongfully did in the past to make her feel important, she obviously did not Imagine that her absence will not be noticed and that no one would beg and cajole her to stay in which she can then do all her shakara.

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