MaxInDHouse:
The sheep is a domestic animal that's always scared of loneliness, it always move with it's kind, it's solely dependent on a guide (shepherd) or a trained sheep, the sheep is selective while choosing playmates.
A lost sheep of the house of Israel means someone having such attitude towards worship, they're humble and willing to accept guidance when it comes to how they can worship God acceptably. So whenever they come in contact with any religionist they want to know if such a person is walking on a better path than them. If they find out that you know better than they do they will be ready to switch over to, they just want to be in the midst of fellow believers, without such gathering the sheep will feel lost!

Tcwork:

If you find someone who knows better than you, are you willing to leave your religion?

MaxInDHouse:
I left Islam for Jehovah's Witnesses Sir!

Tcwork:

Many people leave one religion for another or one church for another. Can you leave JW if you see something better or if you find someone who knows better than you?

Tcwork:

MaxInDHouse:


When i grasp the illustration of a lost sheep, i began searching for a better performing group than JWs. My intention was to find any religion with the same standard but where members won't be asked to go out with bags and preach.
Well i later discovered there's no religious group in the entire universe that's performing better than JWs.
I'm ready to prove this anytime, anywhere and before anybody!
You asked me a question "if you find something BETTER will you leave your (present) religion?"
Well that's exactly what i've been asking all religionists, perhaps i will find something better but instead they're just saying "leave JWs" for which one nah?
NO further response!

Tcwork:

First even if you are 1000 years you still don't know everything so you are still too young to conclude that you know everything that is to be know about religion.
And right now you are just like everyone who thinks his religion is the best and not ready for anything new unlike your definition of the sheep
Matthew 5.6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
I guess you have a different interpretation to this.
Or maybe you are filled and can't take more. There are truths out there that you don't know. No man can hold all truth about God. We learn everyday.

MaxInDHouse:
Well it's obvious you don't know what you're saying, but i'll help you out!

For a teacher to say "All power in heaven and on earth has been given to me, now go out there and make all people my disciples" Matthew 28:18-19
It simply means if you're truly a disciple of that teacher there is nobody as in NOBODY on this planet who can TEACH you anything better! Isaiah 54:17
So my friend if they can't find any group of people performing better than JWs, it simply means JWs are the real followers of Christ who will be the light of the world and city situated on the mountain top! Matthew 5:13-16

May you have PEACE!
Every fanatic feels the same about his religion. Humans are the same. Religion doesn't change us.
You have spoken like a true fanatic would speak for any religion. 'Everyone is bad except me.'

Tcwork:

You are very correct. You just opened my eyes

Barristter07:
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Barristter07:


Hello boss, I followed your discussion and I must commend your beautiful heart . Mind you, I will advise that you take a careful look at the statement below, it might correspond to your view . Note that some members might take things too far ON THEIR OWN, but Jehovah's witnesses still remember the below


" 5, 6. (a) As regards persons who have been disfellowshiped, what wrong attitude do Christian elders and congregation members need to avoid? (b) Illustrate this.

5 Congregational elders, as well as individual members of a congregation, therefore, ought to guard against developing an attitude approaching that which some Jewish rabbinical writers fomented toward Gentiles in viewing them as virtual enemies . It is right to hate the wrong committed by the disfellowshiped one, but it is not right to hate the person nor is it right to treat such ones in an inhumane way. "

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1974565

MaxInDHouse:
@Tcwork

Nevermind, just know that the man from Nazareth did the same thing!

Tcwork:

Now you lost sheep definition doesn't hold any water, does it. I see you are a smart guy, you should review it.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus' comments only appeals to those who want to know the one and only form of worship approved by God.
Majority turned against him while spiritually hungry few who feels the need clinged unto him!
There are many like me out there anticipating pure worship so my friend please yourself!

Tcwork:

I see, you are right, others are wrong mentality. The same line of thought of people like Adolf Hitler and every other despot

Janosky:


John 14:6
Jesus says to him, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father, if not by Me. "

Bros, Jesus Christ is always right, others are wrong.
Is Jesus Christ a despot ?

Tcwork:

And somehow you are now Jesus?

MaxInDHouse:
That's the only way to recognize true followers of Christ, and they will never hurt a fly no matter what you say to them. Their motto is "we know it all" just like our Master, Lord and King!

For your information that's why all the religionists in the first century hated Jesus to the point of killing him and Jesus said the same hatred will be extended to his true followers because they'll always speak like their master whenever it's a matter of sacred service. They may be novice regarding any other thing but no matter where you find them as students of the most wonderful counselor ever, they knew it all when it comes to sacred secrets!

Tcwork:

And somehow you are now Jesus?

Tcwork:

Funny thing, you are not the only sect that make such claims. It's almost becoming a comedy

Tcwork:

Thanks
.checking it out

Tcwork:

First even if you are 1000 years you still don't know everything so you are still too young to conclude that you know everything that is to be know about religion.
And right now you are just like everyone who thinks his religion is the best and not ready for anything new unlike your definition of the sheep
Matthew 5.6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
I guess you have a different interpretation to this.
Or maybe you are filled and can't take more. There are truths out there that you don't know. No man can hold all truth about God. We learn everyday.

Tcwork:

Funny thing, you are not the only sect that make such claims. It's almost becoming a comedy

achorladey:



I am wondering how the post above will sink in considering he BELIEVES God is using the GB of JWs to disseminate truth now. In fact he believes you have to identify yourself with these GB to have any hope of salvation

DappaD:



Love for Jehovah our God comes first before love for a relative or an associate. Matthew 22:37-39, Colossians 3:23
When it comes to the examples you highlighted, routinal activities may continue depending on the circumstances but close association/friendship ties will be terminated. 2John 9-11

achorladey:


Continuation of paragraphs 5 and 6 from the link you got. The article states............

As noted earlier, some rabbinical writings held that, even if in peril of death, no assistance should be extended to Gentiles..................

Now look at how the above still applies in their midst today..........e.g a phone call was made from the son of a JWs who was disfellowshipped or had disassociated(aka gentiles)and was in peril of Death. What do you think the father, mother or siblings will do based on the instruction given in their same magazine below?

"Despite our pain of heart, we must avoid normal contact with a disfellowshipped family member by telephone, text messages, letters, e-mails, or social media." ........Watchtower 2017 Oct p.16

I await your response

Hope you notice the HEADING of the article you were asked to READ. It states........

Maintaining a Balanced Viewpoint Toward Disfellowshiped Ones. In reality there has been an IMBALANCED VIEWPOINT TOWARDS DISFELLOWSHIPPED ONES.

Where does such imbalance came from? From the same mouth that is trying to BALANCE it in that article. The funny aspect of it all is that the writer of this particular article suffered from the same imbalanced view of disfellowshipped ones in the long run.

Now the examples contained in paragraph 5 and 6 below one EXTREME one not too EXTREME. Look at what I bolded lastly in paragraph 6. Is that not an INDICTMENT that they were indeed being taught that way initially the reason for a need to balance it up? You need to look at my opening words in this post and see that the STATUS QUO is still the same.

...............
Suppose, then, a member of a Christian congregation boating on a lake were to see another boat containing a disfellowshiped person capsize, throwing the disfellowshiped one into the water where he struggled to stay afloat. Could the Christian ignore that one’s peril, row away and feel free from guilt before God​—inasmuch as the one in danger of drowning was disfellowshiped, viewed as “a man of the nations”? Certainly not. That would be cruel and inhumane. We cannot imagine Christ Jesus doing so; nor would any other Jew of the first century who had a balanced viewpoint have reacted that way toward a Gentile or a tax collector in such a plight.

6 But consider a less extreme situation. What if a woman who had been disfellowshiped were to attend a congregational meeting and upon leaving the hall found that her car, parked nearby, had developed a flat tire? Should the male members of the congregation, seeing her plight, refuse to aid her, perhaps leaving it up to some worldly person to come along and do so? This too would be needlessly unkind and inhumane. Yet situations just like this have developed, perhaps in all good conscience, yet due to a lack of balance in viewpoint................

MaxInDHouse:
Good! the actions speaks louder than words.
Anyone can make any claim it's proof that will justify such claim. I thought you asked if there is anyone else who can convince me that his/her religion performs better ko!
Hen present one nah!

Tcwork:

What do you understand by action speaks louder than words.
In the Saviors words,
John 13:35
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
But you have spent the best of 2 days brilliantly explaining and defending the fleeting love in your organization. A love that does not outlast membership.
Read the word of the Lord to sinful Israel
Isaiah 49.15
Can a woman forget her sucking child, that she should not have compassion on the son of her womb? yea, they may forget, yet will I not forget thee.
Note.. Israel had committed all kinds of abomination, and had forsaken the Lord yet his promise is, even if a mother can forget her suckling Child, I can never forget you.

Like you said you guys have a different God so I don't think this would mean much to you

Tcwork:

These people should read the parable of the Good Samaritan. How do they come about these things

Tcwork:

These people should read the parable of the Good Samaritan. How do they come about these things

MaxInDHouse:
The Samaritan love his Jewish neighbour as himself just as JWs love you!

Your religious leaders have robbed you collecting all forms of levy from you, most of you have been bruised so we leave the comfort of our homes to come and visit you uninvited in both rain and sunshine. We strive to tell you what we know even if you're hostile towards us because we love to hint you about what is coming to happen.
All these you're seeing yet you want us to agree that you are worshipping our God with all those nonsense and ingredients going on in your religions
If so then why are we worried exhausting ourselves just to reach out to you!

Well the Samaritan did all within his capability for his neighbour!