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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 6:52pm On Jan 03, 2021
AbdulSleeky:
I hope Allah gives you some sense
You don't understand anything. It is about Islam. Their Sharia is "political Sharia". But regardless of what it is, it is govt vs Bala. How is this difficult for you to understand?.

I told you that this kind of treatment of suspect is universal. I have given your examples but you still failed to understand. Govt usually ignore court order if they are interested in dealing with a suspect but they have not tangible case against the person. Why do you think they have civil right movements in America?. It is better law enforcement usually violate constitutional rights of citizens and ignore court order. Why is this difficult for you to understand?. It doesn't mean govt is right. They just want to exercise their power over you. It is a common practice in many countries. Very common in the West
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AbdulSleeky: 7:37pm On Jan 03, 2021
Empiree:
You don't understand anything. It is about Islam. Their Sharia is "political Sharia". But regardless of what it is, it is govt vs Bala. How is this difficult for you to understand?.

I told you that this kind of treatment of suspect is universal. I have given your examples but you still failed to understand. Govt usually ignore court order if they are interested in dealing with a suspect but they have not tangible case against the person. Why do you think they have civil right movements in America?. It is better law enforcement usually violate constitutional rights of citizens and ignore court order. Why is this difficult for you to understand?. It doesn't mean govt is right. They just want to exercise their power over you. It is a common practice in many countries. Very common in the West
Bala was arrested under sharia law. There is no secular law that legislates on blasphemy.

Let us be honest. I dont want to be having heated arguments with you.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 7:59pm On Jan 03, 2021
AbdulSleeky:
Bala was arrested under sharia law. There is no secular law that legislates on blasphemy.

Let us be honest. I dont want to be having heated arguments with you.
then there is no argument here. You can not simply concluded that Sharia Law is invalid. It is a recognized system of govt that runs parallel to the Nigerian constitution. For the fact Nigerian constitution recognized it then you are wasting your time.

So if you are truly interested in his case you need to contact relevant authority in charge of his case. You can not be raising this issue on NL and criticizing Islam because of Bala. So it is the govt that arrested him under Sharia Penal Code. So this is Bala vs Nigerian govt. One of ways to help him is to visit him, give him assurances, work with his attorney, don't be arrogant. And plead to the Sharia court.

You can not achieve anything on this platform by constantly castigating Islam and Muslims here. I have told you this before. Stop wailing on NL.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 12:03am On Jan 04, 2021
*Stabbed Igbo revert to Islam narrates ordeal* #Igbomuslimslivesmatter

InnaliLlahi wa Inna ilayhi.

The oppression and intimidation of Igbo Muslims continue to be on the rise. We have continued to document these *evils* against people who are Igbos by tribe and Nigerians by Nationality but their crime is that they believe that God is one.

While atrocities continue to be underreported, the last from Premium Times' one-sided investigation of the River State massacre and Ohanaeze Ndigbo's denial of how IPOB Used #EndSARS To Attack Igbo Muslims, we continue to demand for their rights.

Surah Al-Burooj, Verse 8:
وَمَا نَقَمُوا مِنْهُمْ إِلَّا أَن يُؤْمِنُوا بِاللَّهِ الْعَزِيزِ الْحَمِيدِ

And they ill-treated them for no other reason than that they believed in Allah, Exalted in Power, Worthy of all Praise!-


Kindly watch this stabbed brother who narrated his ordeal. _*Anyone who has links to him should send a mail to officialknowislam24@gmail.com or Whatsapp: +234 701 577 9491*_


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG7VWWlKW2w

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 12:31am On Jan 04, 2021
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AbdulSleeky: 9:18am On Jan 04, 2021
Empiree:
then there is no argument here. You can not simply concluded that Sharia Law is invalid. It is a recognized system of govt that runs parallel to the Nigerian constitution. For the fact Nigerian constitution recognized it then you are wasting your time.

So if you are truly interested in his case you need to contact relevant authority in charge of his case. You can not be raising this issue on NL and criticizing Islam because of Bala. So it is the govt that arrested him under Sharia Penal Code. So this is Bala vs Nigerian govt. One of ways to help him is to visit him, give him assurances, work with his attorney, don't be arrogant. And plead to the Sharia court.

You can not achieve anything on this platform by constantly castigating Islam and Muslims here. I have told you this before. Stop wailing on NL.
Sharia law is invalid. The constitution is clearly secular and states that there is freedom of religion. No other country runs two separate laws.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 2:15pm On Jan 04, 2021
AbdulSleeky:
Sharia law is invalid. The constitution is clearly secular and states that there is freedom of religion. No other country runs two separate laws.
the alleged crime he committed had nothing to do with freedom of religion. He can be atheist or whatever he wants to be. I leaned that he was once a Muslim and now atheist. So he had freedom of religion. What is not allowed is to abuse, blaspheme religious figure. To my understanding, that's what he was accused of. I'm i right?

As for whether Shari'a Law is valid or not I have told you what you need to do. Take your complaints to Federal govt of Nigeria not nairaland.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AbdulSleeky: 3:25pm On Jan 04, 2021
Empiree:
the alleged crime he committed had nothing to do with freedom of religion. He can be atheist or whatever he wants to be. I leaned that he was once a Muslim and now atheist. So he had freedom of religion. What is not allowed is to abuse, blaspheme religious figure. To my understanding, that's what he was accused of. I'm i right?

As for whether Shari'a Law is valid or not I have told you what you need to do. Take your complaints to Federal govt of Nigeria not nairaland.
He was thrown in an asylum for being an apostate, at first.

No problem.

I hope you can see that the southern Nigerians are getting fed up with the north. Civil war is becoming inevitable.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 3:56pm On Jan 04, 2021
AbdulSleeky:
He was thrown in an asylum for being an apostate, at first.

No problem.

I hope you can see that the southern Nigerians are getting fed up with the north. Civil war is becoming inevitable.
No freaking civil war is coming. And why are you coming up with "he was thrown in asylum" and why would South fed up with that?.

Was it not South and East a guy was severely beaten for converting to Islam and another one had his family taken away from him by pastors because he accepted Islam?. Was it not the same south a Muslim member of christian family had her remains seized and not release to Muslims community for proper burial according to deceased belief because of their bigotry without judicial process?.


Which is more coordinated, North or south and east?. At least North is doing theirs legally but a grown man had his family taken away from him without court order. Another guy was beaten up in extra judicial maltreatment because of his religion.


You see now that North is better and well coordinated?. The so called "educated south and east" are professional Almajiri.

So, oga, what's the is the difference between North, South, East?. Who is much better in this scenario?.

Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AbdulSleeky: 4:03pm On Jan 04, 2021
Empiree:
No freaking civil war is coming. And why are you coming up with "he was thrown in asylum" and why would South fed up with that?.

Was it not South and East a guy was severely beaten for converting to Islam and another one had his family taken away from him by pastors because he accepted Islam?. Was it not the same south a Muslim member of christian family had her remains seized and not release to Muslims community for proper burial according to deceased beliefs because of their bigotry without judicial process?.


Which is more coordinated, North or south and east?. At least North is doing theirs legally but a grown man had good family taken away from him without court order. Another guy was beaten up in extra judicial treatment because of his religion.


You see now that North is better and well coordinated?. The so called "educated south and east" are professional Almajiri.

So, oga, what's the is the difference between North, South, East?. Who is much better in this scenario?.
You can talk all the nonsense you want.

The fact remains that the Igbos in the East, the Deltans in the South and the Yorubas in the West all agree that Northerners typically behave as if they own Nigeria and that non-muslims are below them.

Even Yoruba muslims do not like the way that they are treated by Northern muslims.

You are a muslim, do Yoruba muslims and Northern muslims go to the same mosque in Lagos? no

The North is less educated, poorer and far more corrupt than the south. There is enough evidence for that.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 4:28pm On Jan 04, 2021
AbdulSleeky:
You can talk all the nonsense you want.

The fact remains that the Igbos in the East, the Deltans in the South and the Yorubas in the West all agree that Northerners typically behave as if they own Nigeria and that non-muslims are below them.
grin cheesy why are you shifting goalpost?. When Southwest was funded by foreign countries between 1990 to 2000 to end Islam in Nigeria where were you then?. Didnt they feel they were better than Muslims and the North?. This was the reason North adopted Shari'a Law to slow down Christianity in the North. Can't you see the map speaks volumes?. Shey eru o ba e seeing a giant green map telling you they own Nigeria? grin cheesy. You no dey fear the giant green? grin . Giant green is NORTHERN NIGERIA grin cheesy





Even Yoruba muslims do not like the way that they are treated by Northern muslims
leave us alone. We will manage them. They are our brothers. Israel maltreats Black Christians and Black Jews in Israel but still proud they are the same in faith. grin



You are a muslim, do Yoruba muslims and Northern muslims go to the same mosque in Lagos? no
Yes oooo. Then even plenty in New York and they pray with people of all colors and races.



The North is less educated, poorer and far more corrupt than the south. There is enough evidence for that.
and so?. It is a work in progress. And it depends on how you define "education". Being educated does not mean ability to be able to speak English. I have given you examples up there with the so called "educated south" beat up someone in the name of religion. What is more illiterate than that?.

Or another case of a christian guy from South killed a Muslim because of Christmas fireworks on Xmas day. In the media they refused to mention "christian man killed Muslim worshipper...."

Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 1:33am On Jan 07, 2021

Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AbdulSleeky: 4:07am On Jan 07, 2021
Empiree:
Never Gets Old

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Arabs could even say the same thing about black muslims.

The prophet had black slaves.

Arabs spread islam in Africa through slavery and conquest.

Arabs took west African slaves centuries before European whites took slaves.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 4:23am On Jan 07, 2021
AbdulSleeky:
Arabs could even say the same thing about black muslims.

The prophet had black slaves.

Arabs spread islam in Africa through slavery and conquest.

Arabs took west African slaves centuries before European whites took slaves.
you are neither Muslim nor christian. So your case is dismissed undecided
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AbdulSleeky: 4:36am On Jan 07, 2021
Empiree:
you are neither Muslim nor christian. So your case is dismissed undecided
The truth is really bitter. Lol
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 4:42am On Jan 07, 2021
AbdulSleeky:
The truth is really bitter. Lol
you are not in position to determine what is truth and what is not
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AbdulSleeky: 12:16pm On Jan 07, 2021
Empiree:
you are not in position to determine what is truth and what is not
Says the man who believes in fairytales such as

1. Mohammed flew on a winged horse into heaven

2. That northern Nigeria is better than the south, despite the north being poorer, less educated and filled with beggars.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 12:29pm On Jan 07, 2021
AbdulSleeky:
Says the man who believes in fairytales such as

2. That northern Nigeria is better than the south, despite the north being poorer, less educated and filled with beggars.
Your are still masturbating on North. Anyways go and hug transformer. There is no difference between North South East and West.

Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AbdulSleeky: 9:46pm On Jan 07, 2021
Empiree:
Your are still masturbating on North. Anyways go and hug transformer. There is no difference between North South East and West.
Really?

How many of our internationally respected intellectuals are from the North?

Where is our Wole Soyinka or Chimamanda Adichie or Okonjo-Iweala from.the north?


Majority of our northern influences are people.who directly or indirectly stole money from the govt.

So much for sharia and stealing
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree:
AbdulSleeky:
Really?

How many of our internationally respected intellectuals are from the North?

Where is our Wole Soyinka or Chimamanda Adichie or Okonjo-Iweala from.the north?


Majority of our northern influences are people.who directly or indirectly stole money from the govt.

So much for sharia and stealing
Every region has its uniqueness. I am not against Prof Soyinka, Adichie, Iweala and so forth. But how exactly did they improve Nigeria in 21st century with thier achievements?. Their achievements are only for themselves. What are their contributions to their local communities?. Name their achievements and contributions in their communities.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AbdulSleeky: 5:40am On Jan 08, 2021
Empiree:
Every region has it uniqueness. I am not against Prof Soyinka, Adichie, Iweala and so forth. But how exactly did they improve Nigeria in 21st century with thier achievements?. Their achievements are only for themselves. What are their contributions to their local communities?. Name their achievements and contributions in their communities.
Whataboutism and shifting the goal posts.

Where are our northern intellectuals?

It is almost like sharia and Islamic schools do not help creativity or broadening of the mind.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 5:46am On Jan 08, 2021
AbdulSleeky:
Whataboutism and shifting the goal posts.

Where are our northern intellectuals?

It is almost like sharia and Islamic schools do not help creativity or broadening of the mind.
Simple. With so many intellectuals in other parts of the country minus North, tell us exactly how they improved the country?. Bad roads, no stable electivity, robbery, bandits, ritualist and so on. So how exactly they are different from the North despite so many intellectuals there?. Norther Nigeria has standard roads and stable electricity by 80% than Southwest
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AbdulSleeky: 5:50am On Jan 08, 2021
Empiree:
Simple. With so many intellectuals in other parts of the country minus North, tell us exactly how they improved the country?. Bad roads, no stable electivity, robbery, bandits, ritualist and so on. So how exactly they are different from the North despite so many intellectuals there?. Norther Nigeria has standard roads and stable electricity by 80% than Southwest
Lol.

Roads?

Calculate the total Area of the land mass of the north, and then calculate the length of roads there.

You will see that the south has more roads per land mass.


Where are your major ports? Major headquarters? Major businesses? In the South.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 6:15am On Jan 08, 2021
AbdulSleeky:
Lol.

Roads?

Calculate the total Area of the land mass of the north, and then calculate the length of roads there.

You will see that the south has more roads per land mass.


Where are your major ports? Major headquarters? Major businesses? In the South.

Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AbdulSleeky: 10:37am On Jan 08, 2021
Empiree:
I'm tired
Dont worry, you will soon be tired of Islam
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 3:19pm On Jan 08, 2021
AbdulSleeky:
Dont worry, you will soon be tired of Islam
أبدا
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AbdulSleeky: 4:20pm On Jan 08, 2021
Empiree:
أبدا
lol....


Islam go soon tire you.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 2:16am On Jan 10, 2021
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 1:20pm On Jan 10, 2021
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AbdulSleeky: 11:08am On Jan 13, 2021
Empiree, do you watch Mohammed Hijab
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 1:18pm On Jan 13, 2021
AbdulSleeky:
Empi.ree, do you watch Mohammed Hijab
sometimes. What happened?
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AbdulSleeky: 3:34pm On Jan 13, 2021
Empiree:
sometimes. What happened?
The guy needs to be destroyed. Someone like me needs to debate him.
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