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Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by Nobody: 4:48pm On Jan 11, 2021
Hongkog:
Pure truth.
The democrats used Twitter and Facebook to Influence the elections, they're going to pay for it .

If the President's account can be banned then we're not safe. Anytime we say something that Jack or Mark Zurg ain't okay with they can sensor us without a second thought.

For those who don't believe that the ILLUMINATI exist what happened in the US should make you understand that they control all the Big companies and are everywhere. All the popular social media can't barn 1 person for some false accusation except for the fact that everything is engineered by the illuminati, truth be told trump didn't encourage any violence. Anyways God will not let his servant see disgrace. CALAMITY WILL SURELY OVERTAKE THE WICKED AND THOSE WHO HATE THE RIGHTEOUS WILL BE PUNISHED.
you really believe that trump would even be a president in the first place without Illuminati control?

There is a reason why America has just two major parties Democrats and Republican that dictates who should join primaries and emerge
Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by cicero(m): 4:50pm On Jan 11, 2021
Finally someone that has sense. They have come for Trump because of their hidden agenda and fear of him, soon governments will ride on this and come for all these educated illiterates and bitter souls who see nothing wrong in what Twitter et al are doing

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Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by chris51(f): 4:50pm On Jan 11, 2021
Lovelies1:
Banning wouldn't promote your platform but Flagging could have being considered.

Meanwhile he his still the POTUS till transfer.


POTUS for 9 more days.
What a way for Donald Trump to end his one and only tenure.

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Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by chris51(f): 4:51pm On Jan 11, 2021
chris51:



POTUS for 9 more days.
What a way for Donald Trump to end his one and only tenure.
Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by Ifybwoy7: 4:51pm On Jan 11, 2021
foleskay:

Has he racially abused any of your family or even you before?? If yes show us proof, but if no, shame on you. Ignoramus
oga e called Nigeria shit hole thats enough. even though i dont like the Nigeria.
that shouldn't come from potus.

trump na madman period

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Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by luvmijeje(f): 4:51pm On Jan 11, 2021
12inchess:


The same twitter that didn't block EndSARS? They were even facilitating bitcoin donations for them. Talk about double standards. So the Jack (owner of twitter) doesn't care if the protests spiral out of control and Nigeria burns to the grounds? These just highlights the fact that there is no freedom of speech anywhere even in America. All we have is powerful people pushing certain agendas and if it doesn't fit the bill, you can be blocked or censored.

Till now some people still errorrneously believe that Lord Lugard amalgamated Nigeria for our interest and Mungo Park discovered river Niger. Some bunch of crap that our fathers read in those British textbooks then.

Do you know that the wars between the British empire to take over Lagos, happened multiple times and over few years? That the Lagos side also had guns and canons and not axes, sticks and stones? That means we were also civilized by then. If we were so happy to have the white people amongst us, then why did we fight them at first. You wouldn't read that in any of our history textbooks would you?

PS: I don't like Trump and I supported EndSARS and end of oppression in Nigeria and I still do.. I only found out about the Lagos wars few months ago and I was utterly surprised!
I would suggest that if you're an African or black person living in these white man's world and you read about history, you really need to dig for yourself to find the truth. As they say, history is written by the victors for their own benefit.

Thanks for that bit of history.

Trump exposed the hypocrisy of the West. During the Endsars protest, you have to see the ways the Western leaders were poking their nose into our affairs. What they couldn't accept they were advising us to do it. I saw Hillary, Biden and others urging our youths to their destruction.

Nigeria is not perfect but we will get there.

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Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by tomju(m): 4:54pm On Jan 11, 2021
Hongkog:
Pure truth.
The democrats used Twitter and Facebook to Influence the elections, they're going to pay for it .

If the President's account can be banned then we're not safe. Anytime we say something that Jack or Mark Zurg ain't okay with they can sensor us without a second thought.

For those who don't believe that the ILLUMINATI exist what happened in the US should make you understand that they control all the Big companies and are everywhere. All the popular social media can't barn 1 person for some false accusation except for the fact that everything is engineered by the illuminati, truth be told trump didn't encourage any violence. Anyways God will not let his servant see disgrace. CALAMITY WILL SURELY OVERTAKE THE WICKED AND THOSE WHO HATE THE RIGHTEOUS WILL BE PUNISHED.
Truth be told Trump encouraged violence. His video was pure incitement. Sending those radical right wing racists groups like Proud Boys et al to the capitol was for what? A Tea Party? If you like or admire Trump and his leadership style, that's fine it's your life and right to do so. However, you must also be responsible enough to admit it when he crosses the line. 6 persons are dead,! 6 American citizens as as result of Trump insurrection! Who will be held accountable? Me? "Let us March to the capital and fight, fight fight,. ...get our country back" . They did just that. So you don't blame him? For real? I'm stunned.

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Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by Nobody: 4:54pm On Jan 11, 2021
Ricky97:
Trump is a racist and he deserves all been thrown at him


So says a man that is typing from his one room apartment in a compound situated in a slum in Ajegunle.

lolzz
Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by Witchersunited: 4:56pm On Jan 11, 2021
Twitter is a private company with rules.

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Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by nextstep(m): 4:58pm On Jan 11, 2021
There is no fundamental right to freedom of speech on a private platform. Just as there's no fundamental right to service at a restaurant if they find you abusive.

Private entities can decide what is appropriate on their platforms, and every user agrees to the terms and conditions before they are allowed to access the platform. If and when the guidelines are violated, your account can be terminated.

I think people are conflating the guaranteed rights to free speech - as in the government will place no restrictions on it - with the decision to be an idiot.

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Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by GboyegaD(m): 4:58pm On Jan 11, 2021
Bluntemperor:


Have you not heard about 'Public Interest' which supercede pirocial and poisonous speech! For a President who is leading a Coup against the very people he earlier pledged to protect- just because he lost election,is terrible! Trump has lost it,even Merkel knows this a long time ago.

The suspension of his account is okay however, closing his account totally is a no-no. While it is understandable to say they don't want their platform used for such, the signal here shouldn't be overlooked.
Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by Olakunleyakub(m): 4:58pm On Jan 11, 2021
You are absolutely correct.... Twitter is political now even dough Trump madness and problem is too much.


I think Twitter need to create a committee for doing such and highlight how to over turn the ban.



Twitter should just take it easy ooo
Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by DelilahMakinde(f): 5:01pm On Jan 11, 2021
GboyegaD:
True. Twitter acted so wrongly.


They opened their own yansh...
Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by Depressed101: 5:03pm On Jan 11, 2021
fergie001:


SOURCE


Others who have questioned the decision by big tech giants, Twitter and Facebook to suspend President Trump's accounts are President Andrés Manuel López Obrador of Mexico, renowned neurosurgeon Ben Carson and virulent Putin critic, Alexey Navalny.



[url=https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/mexico-leader-condemns-twitter-facebook-for-blocking-trump/2021/01/07/e454ed32-514f-11eb-a1f5-fdaf28cfca90_story.html%3foutputType=amp]SOURCE [/url]




Secretary Ben Carson




Alexey Navalny

shut Bleep up Alexey.....
Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by Jahwinaboy(m): 5:04pm On Jan 11, 2021
Even in Nairaland, them dey ban people so no be new thing. Trump messed up. Simple

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Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by new2012: 5:05pm On Jan 11, 2021
Hongkog:
Pure truth.
The democrats used Twitter and Facebook to Influence the elections, they're going to pay for it .

If the President's account can be banned then we're not safe. Anytime we say something that Jack or Mark Zurg ain't okay with they can sensor us without a second thought.

For those who don't believe that the ILLUMINATI exist what happened in the US should make you understand that they control all the Big companies and are everywhere. All the popular social media can't barn 1 person for some false accusation except for the fact that everything is engineered by the illuminati, truth be told trump didn't encourage any violence. Anyways God will not let his servant see disgrace. CALAMITY WILL SURELY OVERTAKE THE WICKED AND THOSE WHO HATE THE RIGHTEOUS WILL BE PUNISHED.

If there was an illuminati and they require every dick and harry, you'll probably join.

If the devil were no come physically, you'll certainly be his follower.

Your comment are riled with folly and complete lack of wisdom.
Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by salford1: 5:06pm On Jan 11, 2021
Jahwinaboy:
Even in Nairaland, them dey ban people so no be new thing. Trump messed up. Simple
Twitter would be the least of Trump's worries after he completes his term. The amount of lawsuit that would come his way, and the manner in which friends/associates/businesses will dump him will be out of this world. *In Trump's voice* The likes of which we have never seen before. cheesy

Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by DimIsaac10(m): 5:09pm On Jan 11, 2021
I am not his fan but why are they trying to silence him..
Some of our people who tag his as a racist are still the same people who carries ethnicity for head..
Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by Jahwinaboy(m): 5:13pm On Jan 11, 2021
salford1:

Twitter would be the least of Trump's worries after he completes his term. The amount of lawsuit that would come his way and the way friends/associates will dump him will be out of this world. *In Trump's voice* The likes of which we have never seen before. cheesy
Exactly! Make them drag am small. Always ranting on Twitter and nearly caused civil unrest/war. Make them deal with am. I used to admire him but that he nearly tumbled America will forever live on in history

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Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by Kaiser20: 5:15pm On Jan 11, 2021
The way they disgraced trump out of office naa waa, even Arnold Schwarzenegger call him the worst US president . Na double wahala for trump's children.

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Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by Agukingdom: 5:16pm On Jan 11, 2021
“When you cut out a man’s tongue, it is not because he is a liar, it is because you are scared of what he might say”

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Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by juman(m): 5:18pm On Jan 11, 2021
In the case where the president has lost his sense of reasoning, the social media giants have responsibility to avert civil war in america.

Its only trump that kind of step can affect.
Anybody that ban buhari from social media, must be a joker.
He does not even need it.

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Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by Nobody: 5:19pm On Jan 11, 2021
sholay2011:
Well said ma'am!

Nope! Not with Trump as a reference.

Social Media is more delicate than you think.

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Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by nextstep(m): 5:20pm On Jan 11, 2021
12inchess:


The same twitter that didn't block EndSARS? They were even facilitating bitcoin donations for them. Talk about double standards. So the Jack (owner of twitter) doesn't care if the protests spiral out of control and Nigeria burns to the grounds? These just highlights the fact that there is no freedom of speech anywhere even in America. All we have is powerful people pushing certain agendas and if it doesn't fit the bill, you can be blocked or censored.

Till now some people still errorrneously believe that Lord Lugard amalgamated Nigeria for our interest and Mungo Park discovered river Niger. Some bunch of crap that our fathers read in those British textbooks then.

Do you know that the wars between the British empire to take over Lagos, happened multiple times and over few years? That the Lagos side also had guns and canons and not axes, sticks and stones? That means we were also civilized by then. If we were so happy to have the white people amongst us, then why did we fight them at first. You wouldn't read that in any of our history textbooks would you?

PS: I don't like Trump and I supported EndSARS and end of oppression in Nigeria and I still do.. I only found out about the Lagos wars few months ago and I was utterly surprised since atleast I consider myself to have at least basic education!
I would suggest that if you're an African or black person living in these white man's world and you read about history, you really need to dig for yourself to find the truth. As they say, history is written by the victors for their own benefit.

You're right about we needing to understand our own history and not believe what we've been spoonfed. However, I need to respond to the comparisons you made between EndSars and this terrorist act.

There's a BIG difference between the people petitioning their government via protest, and the people invading the seat of government. There's a BIG difference between organizing a peaceful protest against maltreatment by government officials, and a President actively encouraging an insurrection to harm the country and its officials. Please don't conflate the two.

As we all know, EndSARS was remarkably peaceful for weeks, inspite of its size. It turned violent towards the end when some elements decided to become lawless, and when the Army decided to start shooting innocent people. The fundamental approach of these protest were peaceful, with a positive goal (end brutality). I'm focusing on the goal (and not on the unfortunate turn of events). Even with the violence, so many people remained peaceful, and social media was filled with messages and skits to not loot, to be peaceful, to stay focused on the message. There were many, but the ones by Mr. Macaroni and Brother Shaggi immediately come to mind. I wouldn't have have made sense for twitter and youtube to ban these messages. We also see parallels with the Black Lives Matter protests in the US.

On the other hand, the US President incited an insurrection whose end goal was instability and an unprecedented aim of disenfranchising millions of voters by Unconstitutional means. What makes this particularly dangerous is this was done by someone with remarkable sway over his followers, someone who swore to protect the Union and its Constitution. Nowhere before, during, nor immediately after the armed insurrection was there call for peace (I'm assuming the President's cabinet threatened his removal if he didn't). Can you imagine if an enemy of America casually joined the insurrection with a suicide vest or two? This was quite dangerous and allowing the instigator to keep fanning the flames would be unwise, despite that he is the US president.

Furthermore, freedom of speech refers only to the fact that a government will not restrict the speech of its citizens. It does not apply to private entities - for instance, a restaurant can kick out a patron who was "exercising their right to freedom of speech" by abusing the staff, and the courts will side with the restaurant. Users agree to a platform's terms and conditions, and are liable to get kicked off when they violate the agreement they signed on to.

It also is a good thing that America is the kind of country where even the President can be banned or censured by private entities should they prove dangerous - that's the point of the various checks and balances that have kept this Republic alive for over 243 years without descending into a dictatorship. We should celebrate this ban.

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Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by tolexy007(m): 5:20pm On Jan 11, 2021
Ratedgang:
In the future if not contained....these media tech giants will definitely decide who wins or looses elections. If you’re not loved then yours is finished.


that is where dey are going
Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by itu404(m): 5:28pm On Jan 11, 2021
No, the problematic aspect is is it Merkel talking or the spokesperson?
Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by juman(m): 5:31pm On Jan 11, 2021
How come a man like this became president of any country?

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Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by DarkJeddi(m): 5:33pm On Jan 11, 2021
Hongkog:
Pure truth.
The democrats used Twitter and Facebook to Influence the elections, they're going to pay for it .

If the President's account can be banned then we're not safe. Anytime we say something that Jack or Mark Zurg ain't okay with they can sensor us without a second thought.

For those who don't believe that the ILLUMINATI exist what happened in the US should make you understand that they control all the Big companies and are everywhere. All the popular social media can't barn 1 person for some false accusation except for the fact that everything is engineered by the illuminati, truth be told trump didn't encourage any violence. Anyways God will not let his servant see disgrace. CALAMITY WILL SURELY OVERTAKE THE WICKED AND THOSE WHO HATE THE RIGHTEOUS WILL BE PUNISHED.
Tales By Moonlight..
Twitter is a private establishment..
You either obey their rules and regulations or they will throw you out..
No time..
If you don't like it,then go and establish your own.. grin
No long story.. undecided

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Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by DarkJeddi(m): 5:36pm On Jan 11, 2021
Agukingdom:
“When you cut out a man’s tongue, it is not because he is a liar, it is because you are scared of what he might say”
Or it can be because he is a LIAR. shocked
Either way,your comment no make sense.. angry
Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by abbey621(m): 5:37pm On Jan 11, 2021
salford1:

Twitter would be the least of Trump's worries after he completes his term. The amount of lawsuit that would come his way, and the manner in which friends/associates/businesses will dump him will be out of this world. *In Trump's voice* The likes of which we have never seen before. cheesy

Trump & lawsuits are like 5 &6, I can't remmeber a year that he wasn't facing at least 10 lawsuits but guess what agent orange always manages to squash them all or at least limit the damages. Those thinking this man will end up in jail are only deluding themselves.
Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by abbey621(m): 5:39pm On Jan 11, 2021
DarkJeddi:
Tales By Moonlight..
Twitter is a private establishment..
You either obey their rules and regulations or they will throw you out..
No time..
If you don't like it,then go and establish your own.. grin
No long story.. undecided

They are still governed by the U.S Consittution just like any other business. Lawsuits can challenge their ban system and people can even sue for discrimination or favoritism. The problem with trump is that he absolutely deserves it, man dey run him mouth like tap water grin.
Re: Germany's Merkel: Trump's Twitter Eviction 'problematic' by abbey621(m): 5:41pm On Jan 11, 2021
Ifybwoy7:
oga e called Nigeria shit hole thats enough. even though i dont like the Nigeria.
that shouldn't come from potus.

trump na madman period

Truth hurts but a sensible country would have used that to improve but at the end of the day wasn't Trump vindicated? Is Nigeria not a shithole? Remember he said Ngeria is a shithole not Nigerians....Big difference!

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