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Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 5:05am On Jan 16, 2021 |
TAO11:Napoleon Bonaparte https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o26XHeCBpBM When true Kings fight wars, one of them gets killed or sent into exile. When fake kings (priests like oni ifa) turn themselves into slaves for foreign kings, they get knighted and made governors.
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Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by NGpatriot: 5:05am On Jan 16, 2021 |
nocomment2: Oranmiyan actually landed in Benin back in 1170AD in the 12th century. His son was Eweka 1, the Oba of Benin in the 12th century. Abeg go and read your history books. |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 5:07am On Jan 16, 2021 |
NGpatriot:you are not even a toddler, you are a baby. Oranmiyan is a cartoon character made for children, not for adults, he never existed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_ymEWtcaYE 1 Like
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Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 5:14am On Jan 16, 2021 |
At this point, I have proven all my points. The fanatical revisionists will keeo denying reality and getting deaper into their madness. I will not join them into madness. What kind of a king gets knighted by an other king ? Answer: a fake king. Thanks for helping me prove my point that oni ofe ife was a sell out to the british. Also notice that nowhere in your document is the oni called Oba. The article which once again you did not provide in full clearly shows the oni as a politician who had the favors of the british. As I have always stated, the oni was elevated by the british whom he served well, while true African kings were degraded. Notice how the oni is nt referred to as the leader of the yoruba but actually as one among many ruling yoruba chiefs in the western region. 1 Like
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Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by NGpatriot: 5:14am On Jan 16, 2021 |
[s] nocomment2:[/s] I didn't see this ignorant troll and comedian coming. 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by TAO11(f): 5:15am On Jan 16, 2021 |
nocomment2:No Benin King Overami didn’t fight a war — nor did he order any war. In fact, he begged and denied during his trial that he never asked his people to commit the murder. I can send you a proceeding of his trial where he was pleading not to be killed and that he never ordered the murder. The Benin king Overami had no control long before the British took over Benin. Benin kingdom had already been suffering humiliation from more powerful kingdoms of Ibadan, Ilorin and Nupe Overanmi literally pleaded to be banished rather than executed. He was humiliated for having no power over his people. Stop comparing your native doctore (aka Omonoba) to Napoleon. The words “Napoleon” and “Omonoba” literally can’t fit into the same library. 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by TAO11(f): 5:17am On Jan 16, 2021 |
nocomment2: First of all, the last time I schooled you on the “Ooni” topic, you were caught pants down lying about why your Obas visit Ile-Ife when they’re newly enthroned. You claimed your Oba Akenzua II’s visit to Ife was to greet the then Governor of Western Region — the Ooni. However, I disgraced you by demonstrating that the Ooni wouldn’t be made Governor until three decades later. And how did you react to the disgrace? The same thing you do when in shame. You deactivated your account and fled in shame. Moreover, I have already debunked your reta.rded unsubstantiated claim into silence on this same page. Thanks for helping me bring it to this current page. See my comment below: The image you attached here traces to only one source as diverse and as versatile as the World-Wide-Web is. Moreover, the attachments below published in the year 1903 shows that the Ooni of Ife had always been the head of all Yoruba monarchs since time immemorial. www.nairaland.com/attachments/12915204_3bb91d9be2ea45c5afd3f41e88728f3e_jpeg_jpeg645a15f18177fc5fe10c58c7cc98cb9c www.nairaland.com/attachments/12915205_d21b9942ec6b49db8268dddb52125c5d_jpeg_jpeg5b7a9464bca8be76b7a6cbdd30d76898 www.nairaland.com/attachments/12915206_ea1bb7bbeb514c029bf799998b655ca3_jpeg_jpeg94b9f98f3c978fcbb8823afc65a47cbc Having debunked that, I like to add that: The oldest known written evidence of “Oba” for your a Benin monarch is in the 1860s. Whereas, we have seen an 1845 usage of “Oba” for Yoruba monarchs. LMAO! The link below debunks the lies of the Benin lying machines and exposes the fact that the word “Oba” was borrowed by the Binis from the Yorubas. https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/15#96513655 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 5:21am On Jan 16, 2021 |
look yoruba revisionist if you want to lie, at least make it a smart lie, I feel insulted when I have to correct such an obvious lie. I notice once again that you quote a document which you do not provide in full, therefor you don't allow me or anybody here to cross examine it because it is emost likely a revisionist document written by a revisionist making claims which suit your ego. Reality check, ibadan was a village: proof List of he rulers of ibadan: (notice they used to be called ba'ale until 1929) when they started calling them olubadan and it is only in 1955 that they started calling them Oba). A village doesn't raid an empire nor does it threaten an empire. Ba’ale Maye Okunade (1820-1830) Ba’ale Oluyedun Ba’ale Lakanle Bashorun Oluyole 1850 Ba’ale Oderinlo 1850 Ba’ale Oyeshile Olugbode 1851-1864 Ba’ale Ibikunle 1864 Bashorun Ogunmola 1865-1867 Ba’ale Akere I 1867-1870 Ba’ale Orowusi 1870-1871 Are Ona Kakanfo Obadoke Latosa 1871-1885 Ba’ale Ajayi Osungbekun 1885-1893 Ba’ale Fijabi I 1893-1895 Ba’ale Oshuntoki 1895-1897 Ba’ale Fajinmi 1897-1902 Ba’ale Mosaderin 1902-1904 Ba’ale Dada Opadare 1904-1907 Ba’ale Sunmonu Apampa 1907-1910 Ba’ale Akintayo Awanibaku Elenpe 1910-1912 Ba’ale Irefin 1912-1914 Ba’ale Shittu Latosa (son of Are Latosa) 1914-1925 Ba’ale Oyewole Foko 1925-1929 Olubadan Okunola Abass 1930-1946 Olubadan Akere I 1946 Olubadan Oyetunde I 1946 Olubadan Akintunde Bioku 1947-1948 Olubadan Fijabi II 1948-1952 Olubadan Alli Iwo 1952 Olubadan Apete 1952-1955 Oba Isaac Babalola Akinyele 1955-1964 Oba Yesufu Kobiowu July 1964 - December 1964 Oba Salawu Akanni Aminu 1965-1971 Oba Shittu Akintola Oyetunde II 1971-1976 Oba Gbadamosi Akanbi Adebimpe 1976-1977 Oba Daniel ‘Tayo Akinbiyi 1977-1982 Oba Yesufu Oloyede Asanike I 1982-1994 Oba Emmanuel Adegboyega Operinde I (1994-1999) Oba Yunusa Ogundipe Arapasowu I (1999-2007) Oba Samuel Odulana Odugade I (2007-2016) 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by TAO11(f): 5:24am On Jan 16, 2021 |
nocomment2:First of all, you haven’t been able to put forward any lie that I didn’t debunk. Secondly, I’m not sure why you’re insisting that the Ooni of Ife was responsible for saving Benin kingdom from perishing in 1897. Thirdly, your Oba was a leader of the mid-Western region under the British influence — hence a slave sellout. Remember his ancestor was banished to the evil forest in Calabar by the same British. What kind of King gets banished from Benin into Calabar forest by the foot soldiers of another King?? Only a native doctor by the title Omonoba n’Edo. [s]Also notice that nowhere in your document is the oni called Oba, nor is he even called king. The article which once again you did not provide in full clearly shows the oni as a politician who had the favors of the british. As I have always stated, the oni was elevated by the british whom he served well, while true African kings were degraded.I have debunked this dumb argumentum ex silentio hundreds of times. Try them only with your dumb folks. Learn to recongnize the difference when I’m schooling you, okay? Good boy. Now to debunking you: The attachment was meant to prove one thing and one thing only — to demonstrate to that he was knighted, and hence the title “Sir”. I predicted that you had no clue what “knight” means and then you confirmed that you truly have no clue. Moreover, can you show me where a Benin king was called Omonoba — the title of Benin kings. Or must we assume this to be another Benin fraud? For every 1 “Omonoba” you show me, I will show you 3 “Oba” for the Ife king, and how is the apex Yoruba king. Moreover, I have proven again and again how Benin borrowed the word “Oba” from Yoruba. See link below: Binis Own The Word “Oba” ?? DEBUNKED: https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/15#96513655 The earliest known written usage of “Oba” for a Benin king was in the 1860s when Benin borrowed it from the Yorubas. I have already presented an 1840s written usage of “Oba” for Yoruba monarchs. Please explain to me again why you insist that the 1860s is earlier than the 1840s. LMAO! 7 Likes 4 Shares
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Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 5:27am On Jan 16, 2021 |
By the way, where are the proceedings. You should know one thing about me, I love history. I can't be shamed by history, anything which is proven I just take it and go with it. What i hate however are fake history which is what you keep peddling. You keep quoting documents which you don't care to provide because they are either fake documents either you don't want me to cross examine them. You are a scam artist. 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 5:30am On Jan 16, 2021 |
To any neutral and intelligent person out there: this person tao is quoting a paper and he refuses to provide the paper in the form of a link. How do I know he didn't just write the paper ? How do I cross examine the paper to know if it were not a revisionist work ? So I should just believe him ? Is this how debates work ? This is just crazyness. The only thing I can do is to ignore the paper until the revisionist is ready to actually provide the full document so that I can cross examine it. |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by TAO11(f): 5:32am On Jan 16, 2021 |
nocomment2: First of all — SOURCE ?? Secondly — Your sourceless list only goes to prove that Ibadan was founded to be a subservient territory to the Great Eyo Empire. Until it grew large and strong to attain its INDEPENDENT status of a Kingdom. The word “Oba” would continue to trouble you Binis. You know why? ••• Because it was never a native Benin word. “Oba” is a “Yoruba” word which simply means “king” — literally: “overlord”, “emperor”, etc. In other words, any Yoruba territory which attains the independence of “Kingdom” would naturally have an “Oba” [“King”]. This is regardless of whether or not this territory started out with a “King” [“Oba”], or it was originally a mere sub-settlement under a larger kingdom. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 5:33am On Jan 16, 2021 |
TAO11:Ha, so you are asking for source ? You ! You who refuses to provide the documents which you keep supposedly quoting ? Is your head correct ? 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by TAO11(f): 5:34am On Jan 16, 2021 |
nocomment2: nocomment2:You know I usually don’t respond to rants. My specialization is simply to debunk your LIES — not your rants. So bring on your LIES, I’m itching to debunk. Haha 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by TAO11(f): 5:41am On Jan 16, 2021 |
nocomment2:Two different things. Provide you the book or provide you the source (aka reference) which one? LMAO! ——————— In case you’re wondering, my onus in the course of I don’t have to buy you books. That’s your parents’ duty not mine. ——————— Having said that my reply in that comment is two-fold. Is there any reason you couldn’t see the second one? Even your fake reply to the first one has now being debunked. What a pity? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 5:41am On Jan 16, 2021 |
TAO11:So ibadan "grew strong to attain the status of a Kingdom" in 1955 while the region was deep into british rule and indeendence was very near ? You are so dumb, it is not possible to invent anything as dumb as you. 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 5:43am On Jan 16, 2021 |
TAO11:I will happilly provide whatever source you want as soon as you provide the documents which you claim to quote. |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 5:44am On Jan 16, 2021 |
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Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by TAO11(f): 5:45am On Jan 16, 2021 |
nocomment2:Where is the evidence for the date of 1955 ?? And IFF truly there is evidence to back up the date of 1955 — then a resounding YES is my answer. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by BornRicch(m): 5:46am On Jan 16, 2021 |
TAO11: Why can't you make an argument instead of reposting your copy paste? Aren't you aware some people login Nairaland to read posts and comments? Yoruba people nah wa for una. I don't think I've quoted you before, but I'll take it upon myself to expose who you truly are on this forum. I pray you don't have a social media account because I will hack into your device. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by TAO11(f): 5:48am On Jan 16, 2021 |
BornRicch:Make an argument?? Yes, I copied & pasted MY OWN already made argument?? Is there anyone else claiming to be the author of the comment?? LMAO! Or are you simply angry that your posterboy is being crushed and disgraced?? 4 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by TAO11(f): 5:51am On Jan 16, 2021 |
If I may ask (@BornRicch) why do you want to hAcK into my devise ?? Also, why do you want to eXpOse me ?? Oh, you want to eXpOse me because I debunk Benin lies?? ——————— I’m glad you already exposed yourself though. Do you know the song that goes: “kirikiri n’jo soapy”. Cc: Seun 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by TAO11(f): 5:59am On Jan 16, 2021 |
nocomment2:Lol. Stop being moronically vague. LMAO! What do you mean by “provide the documents” ?? (1) Do you mean I should always provide detailed references to the materials I allude to ?? — which I almost always do. Please point out where I have failed to do that anywhere on Nairaland, and I will do so immediately. (2) Do you mean that I have to buy you those materials (rather than simply provide you with the detailed reference for cross-checking purposes). If the second is what you intend, then I’m sorry to break your plastic heart that I am not one of your parents. Buying you books is your parents’ duty, not mine. Okay? www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996926_9cfaf7feeed848b3af8bcf031191dc46_jpeg_jpeg9749015ad2d0ce380fd43bb08def194a My duty is simply to make a historical statement, and then back it up with detailed reference that would allows for crosscheck. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 6:00am On Jan 16, 2021 |
Thanks for confirming how dumb you are.
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Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 6:03am On Jan 16, 2021 |
What else is there to discuss with a delusional person who doesn't understand how time works. This person's delusion is above my paygrade. |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 6:06am On Jan 16, 2021 |
TAO11:Your references are fake unless you provide proof they are not. Provide the documents otherwise you are just a scammer with fake references which do not have anything to do with what you claim to quote. You need to prove your references are true, i shouldn't have to believe your word and I should be able to cross examine whatever you claim to quote. You are just a scammer, and I know why you are doing this. I know you are just a person completely ignorant of the most basic things about history or even reality, you believe google will always save you from your ignaorance and lack of education. Many times in the passed before you started hiding whatever you claim to quote, we were always quick to cross examine the documents you got through google search and we always were able to shame you and show just how ignorant you are. That is why you decided to either make fake documents or hide whatever you quote. |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 6:11am On Jan 16, 2021 |
This person is too deluded for me to discuss with. Google wont get you a functionning brain. |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by TAO11(f): 6:12am On Jan 16, 2021 |
nocomment2:No Benin King Overami didn’t fight a war — nor did he order any war. In fact, he begged and denied during his trial that he never asked his people to commit the murder. I can send you a proceeding of his trial where he was pleading not to be killed and that he never ordered the murder. The Benin king Overami had no control long before the British took over Benin. Benin kingdom had already been suffering humiliation from more powerful kingdoms of Ibadan, Ilorin and Nupe Overanmi literally pleaded to be banished rather than executed. He was humiliated for having no power over his people. Stop comparing your native doctore (aka Omonoba) to Napoleon. The words “Napoleon” and “Omonoba” literally can’t fit into the same library. 5 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by oyatz(m): 6:18am On Jan 16, 2021 |
Yebosola: Even at that, this is misleading. It's just the Royalty and some chieftaincy families like Eletu- Odibo that came from Bini. The rest of the people of Isale-Eko were of Awori Origin. The Binis were a colonial power in Lagos and not the founder or the earliest settlers of Lagos. |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by TAO11(f): 6:19am On Jan 16, 2021 |
nocomment2: This one pain am die that he knows not what to type. 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by oyatz(m): 6:27am On Jan 16, 2021 |
nocomment2: Ouyo= Oyo and nothing else. How can Ouyo be Ijaw? |
Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by TAO11(f): 6:35am On Jan 16, 2021 |
nocomment2:First of all, you’re so used to dumb Benin people that you always assume that everyone else must be dumb like your kinsmen — no, I am a Yoruba. Secondly, you always claim to have seen the four walls of a university — I knew a day like this would come when that too would be exposed as a brutal lie. If you’ve ever seen the four walls of a university or read an academic paper or a book published by an academic, then you should know the following: Quotes and paraphrases are at minimum substantiated with references that allow for crosschecking. Not with pictures of the external page/material being quoted or paraphrased. Going by your dumb logic, all published academic works are false — because quotes and paraphrase are substantiated therein with references (that allows for cross-checking), rather than with pictures of external pages. In sum then, detailed references that allow for cross checking are my onus to substantiating my quotes and paraphrases. If you must acquire the referenced book/paper itself, then your parents have to do the buying for you not me. It is your parents’ duty to buy you books. Unless I have ever provided a reference which on cross checking turned out to be spurious do you stand a moral chance of questioning my now subsequent references. And for that, you would need to prove your claim to all and sundry that so & so reference which I once provided was spurious. You would prove that by demonstrating that the said book/paper doesn’t exist, or that the said book/paper doesn’t contain the said statement in the referenced page, etc. You either already know all these (in which case your are a grand fraud); or you never knew any of these (in which case you’re a grand dullard). The attached image below is a perfect depiction of what I have always put you through on Nairaland. 6 Likes 3 Shares
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